It's Not The Version We Think it Is Anymore

[@cosmiccynic2757]

I like how Valve removed the bots, but many pirated versions have them.

[@FevrDrim]

On my school laptops there are pirated versions of 1.6 with bots

[@DeanAmx]

They want cscz to be special

[@cosmiccynic2757]

@@FevrDrim Yep, most pirated versions have bots.

[@cosmiccynic2757]

@@DeanAmx CZ pretty much is 1.6 with some new models and very minor changes

[@DeanAmx]

@@cosmiccynic2757 not really. They have a tour of duty campaign and also single player missions

[@emred4653]

sharing this game on usb during pc class was the good stuff

[@kacidy]

My high school had a a vocational IT program which was managed by the school's IT admin. She didn't care if we played games between support tickets so we would set up a local server and play Counter Strike with our elevated permissions on the network. ahhhh the late 90s/early 00s were a different time...

[@TheJanis1993]

Oh yes the 30 or 50mb lite version

[@ByeBaybe]

@@kacidy basically the same fun i had in spring of 2013. from a small town in the south so security wasn't too tight on the networks and once i had to use an admin login for a business class, the password wasn't changed for 3 years so i used it to play osrs so yeah... but in spring of 2013 we played mw2 and halo ce in the computer lab during an english class. i was called a nerd because i was better than them but i promise i'm mediocre. xDxD

[@michaelkoerli3815]

Yes :)

[@iMvon]

@videoplayback_ wtf

[@lullebulle2]

2:18 "frags are frags" Scoreboard say Score. back in the days it was scores not kills, and 1 kill was 1 score. defuse / plant was 3. nothing wrong with that...

[@kirjuschaks]

The stupid thing was assisting kills with like 99 damage was worth nothing on the scoreboard... No assists, no MVP like in modern cs

[@cobrexu]

Fun Fact: the first russian crouch exploit fix 4:30 got reverted entirely because of the kz community, as the fix basicly destroyed several movement techs. The players got together and asked Valve to not kill an entire community of 50k+ members (at that time) which eventually worked. Valve reverted the patch and fixed the exploit in a non-destructive way.

[@cactu]

thats crazy considering how good the end result was

[@notlonewolf]

funny how almost all media of #SaveKreedz vanished, and if not for that old Steam Group I would swear that my mind was making this up

[@Jigul4icata]

Even crazier because right now as from what I observed, kz servers are the most played in Counter Strike 1.6 along with Dust2 Only/Classic/Massacre servers. Atleast in my country.

[@fkinsenzo]

hi cobrex love you

[@just__khang]

@@fkinsenzo hello sneezo i kiss you

[@Paplock]

Soon Counter-Strike will be 25 years old, I hope Valve will do the same as it did with Half-Life. Awesome anniversary birthday version

[@Valentin7789_]

Maybe update the engine with the latest improvements since CS:GO

[@P3RF3CTD3ATH]

They'll probably just add bots.

They don't look back tho

[@Pootie_Tang]

@@Valentin7789_ what would even be the point, Валик?

[@Futo_no_mononobe]

@damsen978 party pooper

[@Ch0wW]

CS 1.6 originally didn't have the timer stopped when the bomb was planted. It was once CS:CZ was released that they added it. Also, a very few amount of people dubbed CS as 1.7 once CZ got released.

[@mrc7489]

Servers are so modified nowadays that it's not even worth playing anymore, noise pollution, parachutes, etc.

[@ByeBaybe]

same issue with l4d. the trash modded servers always have loads of traffic. i don't understand!

[@QuakeMasterX]

Same as counter strike source

[@dannydanny2789]

@@mrc7489 I love the custom sounds and 2000s dubstep on private servers, but game changing stuff is a dealbreaker

[@mrbetabombs2017]

Back in like 2014 I used to play zombie mod servers and those already had lots of add-ons, as time went on servers got worse, adding new textures, models, lighting effects, even new mechanics entirely, is kinda crazy how far the goldsource engine can be pushed.

[@ekiM2K]

We have CS 1.6 and CS 2 This makes CZ 1.7 Source 1.8 and GO 1.9

[@dkskcjfjswwwwwws413]

cz was already intended to be 1.7

[@terdik36]

@damsen978 it makes so much yet so little sense at the same time

[@terdik36]

@damsen978 alright then

[@KoenigsLeet]

Genius..

[@denisdubovik228]

No fucking way

[@Grasyl]

I remember back in the days there were a lot of so called "non Steam 1.6" versions floating around for LAN party without internet access for everyone. They were numbered v1 to v22. Most prominent were v9, v19 and v21. You could easily tell v9 and v19 apart, because the score board of v19 had rounded corners.

[@nevoobrazimiy]

4:27 infamous slavic squatwalk, you'd better not to fail it in the eyes of your schoolmates...

[@ByeBaybe]

russian squat with an awp is brutal to fight against

[@aruan7sp]

They should change the UI to better resemble their WON counterparts. As of right now they use the same color scheme/sounds as HL1 instead of CS, there's even a mod on gamebanana to change it so it's not that hard to do I guess.

[@hearTelus]

You forgot the most important update which occured in the summer 2004; the fastswitch scope. They made it so you had to wait an extra second before scoping with the AWP when switching back to it. If you look up older CS 1.6 movies released in 2003/early 04 like Broderna Wallenger 2 and 3, you'll definetely see the difference. The Russian walk, correct me if I'm wrong, but I seem to remember that the first one to fix it was ESEA by adding an extra stepsound while doing it. So you would be harder to hit but people would stll hear you coming because of the extra stepsound. The update was made around 2008, I remember f0rest abusing it at GameGume 2007, you can still find demos from him on that specific tournament and abusing it kzbin.info/www/bejne/nZ3Pe5yura9mbqM

[@Мирич-з4е]

I have a pirated version from 2005, and I use it since then. So I didn't even knew that they removed the bots until now. 😄

[@QuakeMasterX]

Same

[@FlyboyHelosim]

CS 1.6 is a free mod that by default doesn't even have bots, at least the OG WON version.

[@HaartieeTRUE]

2:10 it literally says "score" Not frags, not kills. Score. Or, obriously, points

[@kirjuschaks]

According to the statement of different servers having different versions; I remember playing on a server where the g3sg1 (banned T-side auto sniper on most servers anyway) had no movement inaccuracy even with scoped. Normally it only has no movement inaccuracy while unscoped. I think it was an older version of the game

[@CallOfCutie69]

My iconic CS from slavic computer clubs didn’t have any Galils, Famases, nor riot shields

[@Pootie_Tang]

Probably 1.5 or 1.4, or maybe even older

[@honzapobisCZ]

1.5 with PODbot ?

[@CallOfCutie69]

@@honzapobisCZ yeah

[@Smilex_Gamer]

Nice video and oh wow, my aim practice server showed up on the server list

[@VidZeen]

One of the latest patches screwed up the weapon bobbing when you are moving o.O

[@Malakaiii.u]

The 25 anniversary¿?

[@cannedbeverage7687]

Btw the 1.6 weapon models and tactical shield were recycled from CZ development, probably existed as early as the greasy Randy era.

[@user-love50803]

yeah, all of whats in 1.6 are leftover from Gearbox CSCZ development and as i aware about 1.6 beta, famas and galil has similiar firing sound to the one in deleted scenes before it got changed to what we have now I also have no idea if the knife viewmodel was also made by Gearbox or not because it was added in way later updates of 1.6

[@FlyboyHelosim]

That was one of the things I actually didn't like about Steam, with it forcing or 'streamlining' updates so that everyone was on the same version. Sometimes in mods, things changed or broke so much between different versions that I actually wanted to play older ones. By modding a few files you could even have multiple versions of the same mod installed on the same PC. At one point I had multiple versions of CS installed... stock or with skin packs, with or without bots, etc.

[@ahmedking5793]

5:38 my tongue broke trying to read this bro wth 😂 and i see ur editing got improved im glad to see that keep up the good work bro ❤

[@speldfort]

it's arabic language but broken because its reversed for unknown reason maybe of the client of text

[@ahmedking5793]

@@speldfort I know 😂

[@esotilin3558]

you miss the crosshair fix, in the original cs 1.6 the top line was misaligned from the rest of the crosshair, that was fixed in a 2019/20 update, i dont remember

[@helloimziad7406]

for your own information, the name written in Arabic was a verse from the Holy Quran ۝ قال اني اعلم ما لا تعلمون ۝ I found that weird. It was in 5:38 too.

[@spyczech]

I think he was baiting comment engagement in a really weird way

[@CepbIuLOL]

Aw shit, time to go deep into my "Best cs 1.6 fragmovies" folder.

[@smokap911]

5:38 i dont know how to tell you but that's broken arabic

[@nexus1g]

Crouch running (never heard it called Russian walking) didn't make you absolutely silent. You still made a very slight footstep sound. The movement itself wasn't banned in professional play, but it was limited. IIRC, CPL/CAL allowed you to use no more than 2 instances of the crouch run in a row. They wanted to leave it in for peeking, but didn't want to use it for crouch running.

[@Dunning-Krugereffect]

They really need to just remaster it like they did with Diablo 2. Fix left arm hitbox, interp, and rates so that rands don't stutter all over the place etc.

[@CrazyKosai]

Ok, now I demand that you'll make a video about cabbages!

[@eurasianlynx5188]

If I don't get a 20-minute video essay on kimchi by the end of the month, I'm unsubscribing

[@LeviatanCortez]

I really liked last uptade. It is SO easy to play with my friends now. I wish they did that before. I have played with the guys for the past 4 years. Having all these atts is awsome.

[@nekipeh7373]

My nostalgia emerged the moment bliss background with CS installation was shown on screen. Fun times. Fun times

[@funnyguy6097]

Galil and famas were in the game around 2002. I say that cause I remember playing 1.5 and they were in there back in those days

[@d1w3n510n]

Looks like you don't remember well.

[@csTeekannu]

Famas and galil came in 1.6 not 1.5 :P

[@Shokkwavez]

Highschool and CS 1.3, those where the days!

[@madLy202]

5:38 that's a verse from the quran .. obviously that's arabic but it was broken in cs making it start from left to right where it should be the opposite

[@Baqization]

Its been over 20 years and the introduction of that 1.6 knife model still bothers me to this day. The 1.5 version was so much nicer, and without mud (?) on it I feel like that old lady at the end of titanic.

[@dvm24]

Really love the content, keep em coming broo💯

[@Invi_TV]

No mention of the AWP delay addition, crosshair size additions or anything like that.... "Release" 1.6 had no delay on weapon switch to AWP and there was only 1 crosshair. No changes to size or thickness etc

[@mater753s]

I think there is no crosshair thicknes option? just size

[@tesco-cs]

Technically its now cs 1.7 post 2013 update.

[@miikkamk3149]

This video makes tf2 fans cry

[@Aha5653ch.]

I just see man writing 1.6 then get flashbacks

[@alexmelinte917]

This game was pure, uncut cocaine...

[@proosee]

TBH two most important updates after initial 1.6 release were flash bug fix (I can't even count how many years we waited for this simple fix where community had fix available for free distributed manually...) and mouse raw input. The rest was nice but not essential.

[@CoinLaundry500]

Dude your editing is next level, do you hire an editor or do you edit these videos yourself? if you do edit them yourselves what program do you use?

[@dezolance]

I do it myself using Premiere Pro, Gmod and Photoshop

[@TheDrakmannen]

I still play 1.6 regularly, mostly GunGame which I must say is still alot of fun. It kind of wrecks my CS2 spray control tho. Its just something about the gun play in 1.6 that wont ever be beaten. So crisp yet so clunky.

[@melc311]

The 2023 update was actually pretty huge because it allows clients to simply start a map and host a server for it on their machine that shows up on the server browser.

[@profil4e]

CS 1.6 was getting updates all the way up till recently?? WTF that legitimately shocked me. I thought that the game was abandoned 12-13 years ago, and that anyone that plays it currently, simply uses a pirated version from 2004-2005 xD

[@lukkkasz323]

The reason why this is possible is, because servers run on a protocol which is updated rarely, so you can likely play with a quite old version of the game along the new version players.

[@ray4nn]

5:39 hey dez where TF did you copy that xD that's the Qoran

[@mr.harith.dz.yt.]

I have no idea too, it's weird.

[@JuiceBox_272]

you my friend are the best cs 1.6 content creator on youtube, keep it up you truly are amazing.

[@mater753s]

You forgot to mention one (at least imo) important update - crosshair sizes selection; you could choose between small, medium and large crosshair, not possible in 1.5

[@LaserTrace]

this channle deserve more guys ! the only 1.6 content creator (actually good) !!1

[@utc_3]

You sound like younger IBZ, I love it... Great video!

[@OceanSSShark]

Love your videos as always!

[@inqmusician2]

Thank you for reminding me of the fake servers. I had an idea to use games as a host for malware, like reverse shell and things like that. I believe the fake servers were rampant because of the way how the client treated downloads. It doesn't have a file type check and basically any server admin or the server itself can upload malware to the computer, mostly .asi scripts, because the GoldSrc engine can utilize them for various things, such as the improved input buffers for example. Then, these malicious .asi scripts can do pretty much whatever they were programmed to do. As for the config files, you can't do pretty much anything to save them. You have to set the configs to read-only. But, you'll lose the ability to save your settings, which is a great sacrifice when the server overwrites your config. Speaking of configs, they were used to punish cheaters when they wouldn't budge. For example, a such plugin can set the fps_max value to 1 on a client, making the experience much more unbearable. Also, it can bind every key to "kill", when you press it, you'll kill yourself every time in the game. So, instead of banning a cheater, it made the experience as a non-cheater much better. Because running a server is a business. And you'll lose players and money as a result of cheating. But, in this day and age, cheating is much more rampant, but at the same time, anti-cheats gotten better. Especially with kernel-level anti-cheats, which I hate. It's basically a root-kit that can do whatever it wants. DDOSing, hiding malware, residential proxies, things like that. But, we have to make sacrifices for our own comfort, not security.

[@ag23415]

You should make a vid about the pricing/reward criteria for cs 1.6. I never really understood which actions justify the amount of money you get from them.

[@perfectlyroundcircle]

They should release a physical version now, containing all these fixes, AND bots. It would be so awesome, and I'm sure many would buy it.

[@MUSiCK9]

I want to hear you talk more about cabariges tbh

[@goxy287]

5:43 youd be surprised, I was using a pentium 4 in 2013

[@UnorthodoxYannick]

I like how you transitioned from image using that CS character. Do it more often :)

[@JandyCZ]

CS 1.6 doesn't feel abandoned, yet TF2 is in a cesspit, despite a lot of reasons. #fixtf2

[@Zuk22Zed]

Imagine playing cs 1.6 as a new player and thinking cs 1.6 was like this

[@Pootie_Tang]

not much changed, other than relatively minor UI improvements and under-the-hood bug fixes. I play CS since 1.5, and 1.6 when it came out was pretty much identical to what one can buy on steam today

[@joshuaheathcote2116]

It was so good to see the old websites, brought back so many good memories. Anyone remember myg0t >_

[@khebre6032]

They updated this game that nowdays has over %90 Pay2Win servers who exploit children but they refuse to update TF2 lmafo

[@wibs0n68]

All of their servers are run by the community, so blame the server owner.

[@skinwalker69420]

@@wibs0n68 not TF2's servers

[@wibs0n68]

​@@skinwalker69420 TF2 has nothing to do with this video.

[@skinwalker69420]

@@wibs0n68 did you read the original comment you even replied to?

[@wibs0n68]

@@skinwalker69420 Yes, and I believe he's talking about the CS1.6 servers full of pay2win mechanics. Disregarded the TF2 part because it is irrelevant and I have nothing to say about it.

[@Pootie_Tang]

Who also remember the times when cs_prodigy was in the tournament pool and was being played regularly on big events? =) Ancient times now.

[@mater753s]

*DE_prodigy

[@SerbiaUltra]

love ur videos man, i appreciate it so much:)

[@tryfirst5237]

I'm not crying, you are 🥲

[@Vanessinha91Pucca]

CS 1.3 and 1.5 was the best version of the classic for me

[@zedakick]

Valve updating the scoreboard of 1.6 but not fixing the TF2 bot crisis is so funny yet so sad

[@DESS71AN]

bkz_goldbhop footage shown heck, now i wanna get my amx modded lan server on and play some

[@Jasher4]

salads and dishes

[@KristallFire]

Remove the shield, make Scout pinpoint accurate while Standing Like the AWP, add a few new Maps (Like a goldsource Version of Cache) and fix the weird silencer attach/detach behavior. Then call it 1.7. Ta-da! Making the Game more Bug free but but changing its core gameplay in a real signifcant way, should do the Trick to keep it as a playable and enjoyable relict of the time. I Just Love to hoo into it every few years and be able to Access all my skills in the First round, because its the absolute Same Game than in 2005.

[@epicbacongaming2k117]

You forgot the fix for widescreen having a proper fov so it wasn't squashed with the 25th anniversary update :(((

[@Gnievv]

I liked the old knife model.

[@ComradeMiladin]

bro they added screen shake its so bad i have to disable the viewmodel movement totally -_-

[@Ninetails94]

remember every update changes what version the game is, so of course its not 1.6 anymore its whatever the update is now.

[@arijanj]

anniversary update added 16:9

[@icespeaker81]

I can't believe Valve had in-game ads... scummy man

[@Grasyl]

2:45 No, this did not work. Back in the day you could not just type in your CS 1.0 CD-Version Key and get CS 1.6. You had to buy a new "Halflife Anthology" for 10€ from the store and most of these keys did not work for the first month.

[@Pvt_Wade]

fun fact: the Arabic text in 5:37 is taken from Quran 2:30

[@spyczech]

Pretty fucked up way to bait comment engagement

[@lukkkasz323]

​@@spyczechi'm not familiar with quran, why is this significant?

[@spyczech]

@@lukkkasz323 Basically Islam takes a lot reverence and importance on representation of both the word of the prophet and especially his physical depiction (you might know that part from why comics of muhamad are so controversial etc) its part of why the caligraphy is so beautiful big emphasis on subtlety, think how protestants during reformation tore up catholic churches for being overly worldly and using icons actually its similiar) I'm not personally muslim myself so that spiritual part wasn't as much why I was personally offended to be honest though. It's common for youtubers to include stuff like that or little easter eggs to get people to leave comments and bait engagement. The "easter egg" for the comments though is potentially offended a huge proportion of the world

[@zapekanka123]

after those 20 years "fixes" they still didnt fix the hitbox problem and famas disbalance

[@mostofii]

my king uploaded🥰

[@Splati]

bro couldn't you use any other text in arabic than that ? 5:38 (its intermittent letters tho )

[@mr.harith.dz.yt.]

It's Quran.

[@Splati]

@@mr.harith.dz.yt. Yes i know , thats why im complaining

[@timothycannata]

The riot shield ugh, that was the worst game breaking change. So glad they eventually fixed it.

[@VX-3000]

Shout out to Venezuelan servers, and cabbage ^_^ I just wish we didn't have to remember to buy ammo

[@6z0]

bro were you even alive for 1.6

[@absurddive]

I was legit hoping to see cs 1.5's GUI. At least the main menu... 😢

[@Ozzymand]

de-dezolanace 🤤

[@tnolentin]

finally, you did it

[@Ek_erfan]

Cs 1.6 is Cs 1.6✅

[@Apchiha007]

Do a video about the leet world machinima please

[@light6995]

I used to have 2 file packs on an usb stick one with the version of 2006 and one with 2009 later on and it worked fine for the most part on steam with minor errors and one pack required the use of in-game console with a few commands to get work as intended and playing around with the config file with was a nightmare because if you fukd it up, you had to do all over again. It unlocked the old in game features and most importantly the D3D renderer (with was the OG I believe). It removed the in game lag coused by the default OpenGL. With D3D the game worked buttery smooth and looked so clean. When you used openGL (the default renderer) it made the gameplay feel as if you slowed down and run like 60Hz with a downgrade of sort. It feels as if you had a very micro-stutter. Hard to explan. I was not a huge deal as some could say but for me it was a huge one at that. Also the pack unlocked some of the minor video settings that were useful as well. I remember having the ads for TF2 L4D and other VALVE games when using the old pack. It was a special time. I'm glad I was able to downgrade the game many years ago and play on it in the community and tweak all the nevessary settings to my liking.

[@abdurrahmancevik2005]

5:38 The last words of 30th verse of baqarah

[@meddz2789]

ملاحظة قويه !!

[@mr.harith.dz.yt.]

Yup.

[@lopwidth7343]

Valve never did it for anyone but themselves. They used CS popularity at the time to introduce steam and the rest is sad history for golden era gaming

[@tehjamerz]

CS is thessius' ship... RIP

[@telavus920]

Before I thought Blizzard was the gold staple of maintaining their old games.... Until they made everything crash and burn with how they treated the online services of the original warcraft 3... Good to see that valve still are good at maintining SOME of their oldest babies. (Actually, it is very wierd that they do sporadically maintain their oldest titles, but they still refuse to maintian TF2, which still has in-game purchases. Guess thats the curse of how valve lets their devs work on the projects they themselves want to work on, as no one wants to handle the tf2 boogeyman).

[@obsence]

love to 1.6

[@krtolebiohazardcs1.681]

I use 18y old C's version

[@57ar7up]

CS 1.6 2024. This is current version now 🙂

[@CJHong074]

5:35 is John Cena saying #fast and furious 9 #good morning china I now have ice cream I like ice cream but fast and furious 9 is...

[@starfrost6816]

the vast majority of games that are this old aren't maintained at all

[@crylune]

why do you sound like Linus

[@trimi420]

GOAT