It's the "beginning of the end" for Liz Truss | Andrew Marr | The New Statesman

[@NewStatesman]

Watch why Brexit is behind Liz Truss's failure, by Andrew Marr here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rGSwoGOvgKiJrdk

[@czgibson3086]

The Tories deserve to be totally unelectable for generations.

[@andrewrobinson9054]

….what like Labour

[@JevansUK]

Hopefully longer

[@kerryfry1857]

@@andrewrobinson9054 I think you're part of the Anti Growth Coalition. You must be stopped.

[@davidpearn2484]

For multi generation's.

[@johnhollyoak9295]

Make it for ever!

[@michaeloshea5505]

finally we have a PM that can safely bring the UK to its next stage of lunacy and has no fear of looking utterly stupid.

[@rossgeography]

lolz

[@maryfountain4202]

Stuck with social democrats inside the party, slow growth and an unsustainable over 50% of GDP consumed by the public sector.

[@RichWoods23]

@@maryfountain4202 If the Tories hadn't acted in ways which increase inflation and reduce growth then of course the money needed to run the public sector is going to form a larger percentage of GDP as time goes on. It's not the public sector's fault, it's the fault of the cretins in charge of the economy shrinking the economy.

[@patrickmccutcheon9361]

That description also applies to BoJo.

[@ebillyboi]

Truss has sorted 60 trade deals for us Brits....u have done sweet f a .....u not smart person

[@the_9ent]

The Tories deserve everything they get.

[@audreymcgready4329]

And then some.

[@jackdunn3235]

You're fracking spot on.

[@koenigkorczak]

except all the money

[@theresoluteone]

@@koenigkorczak lol, everything they get including their loss of power and money

[@andydudley1775]

which is so far billions and no arrests.

[@dougie6886]

Substitute growth, growth, growth for corruption, corruption, corruption.

[@eightiesmusic1984]

The Tories are the anti growth coalition. In any case it is sustainable growth that we need.

[@eightiesmusic1984]

The cost of giving crisis- the wealth of the majority being transferred to the Tories must come to an end.

[@buddhababy2005]

Absolutely agree!

[@stevenclarke5606]

Why are people still voting for them? The Tory’s only look after the mega rich by exploiting the poor and the most vulnerable people in society!

[@elpresidente8730]

It's a fine line between being an enemy of enterprise or being an enemy of the state when the house of cards is tumbling. It's taken 4 prime ministers, a pandemic and a couple of suicidal economic decisions to get her here. She seems intent on going out with a bang. I'm going to order my "Proud to be a member of the Anti-Growth Coalition" T-Shirt right away.

[@RobBCactive]

The real anti-growth coalition was the forces who lopped 4% of GDP by forcing the UK out of the single market.

[@wolfiesmith7674]

I’ve been looking for a ‘I’m woke’ with an EU flag background tshirt… gap in the market methinks

[@neilhawkes880]

Absolutely. Who in their right mind thinks that GDP is a sensible measure of our lives?

[@roberthindle5146]

I'm also anti growth but only because I think the growth that Truss is catalysing is of the fungal variety.

[@nickbarton3191]

Please get one for me with a target on the back.

[@lesleystewart5882]

I'm a bloke on minimum wage and even when I heard the budget, I thought what are they doing reducing the 45 p tax. Political suicide 2 years before election. Who advises the government? Unbelievable

[@Boghopper9999]

The answer to your question is the likes of the various 55 Tufton Street 'think tanks' (just don't call them lobbyists) that typically rate very low on the transparency scale (they could be funded by Putin for all we know but more likely the likes of the Koch Brothers)

[@peterclarke7240]

Disaster capitalists. The problem for the tories is that disaster capitalists don't care who they make money from, and they've now worked out they can make the most by shafting the Tories. 😂

[@JevansUK]

Why don't follow Jake Berry's advice and get a high paying job? (Might be a problem if no one does any of the low paying jobs)

[@Boghopper9999]

@@JevansUK I didn't hear him complain about being on minimum wage; my wife is on minimum wage because it's a job she likes and she does not want to do a job that makes her miserable for most of her waking life if she does not have to

[@davefave4351]

@@Boghopper9999 I think Jon is being sarcastic. We are all of the same opinion here, are reading from the same song sheet, when it comes to the Tories...

[@keith2366]

"Tory MPs who think that their careers are over." I'm an American so I do not completely understand how the UK government works but I'm guessing that you in the UK have evolved into the same situation we have here in the US, politics was never supposed to be a career. Career politicians are the cause of many of our problems.

[@ptrisonic]

"Defund the Politicians"...

[@TihetrisWeathersby]

Her Premiership was doomed from the start

[@jjefferyworboys8138]

Probably the most astute comment here. Whoever succeeded Boris was instantly going to become the new bad guy.

[@anthonywilliams4661]

I really thought Liz would do a Starmer and pivot to the centre now the leadership race is over. Instead she’s moved her party to the Right. Bet Labour can’t believe their luck

[@eightiesmusic1984]

You can't have been paying much attention to the extremism of the Truss policy agenda.

[@firebyrd437]

No they've veered further right and became to the new UKIP party, labour are the new Conservative party now

[@matty7758]

She's an inside agent destroying the tories from the inside. In actual fact she never switched allegiance from being a pro EU lib dem!

[@Enzoblueblood]

I’m no Tory supporter but all throughout the leadership race it was pretty obvious to me at least that Sunak was head and shoulders more capable

[@michaelmouse4024]

Please... Can we not refer to these venal parasite politicians by their first names as if we know them?!? It was tds that Johnson was constantly referred to as in this way as if he was a big cuddly bear... It's a bullshit Daily Mail conceit. Call her Truss - or something rhyming with cupid stunt

[@cheekyboy-ho9ub]

From 45p to P45!

[@faithcole4693]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@TheRickydamen]

Refreshing to hear Andrew Marr free from his BBC shackles...

[@user-bu9nb8wr6e]

Time to make it a crime if you lie to the public and you are an MP. The only reason they lie is because we let them and don’t hold them accountable. Yes ago an MP caught lying would be shunned by their own party.

[@LB1973]

MP's have always lied

[@billgibbard9449]

Liars now boastfully lie both about lying and not lying. If they pass this hurdle they may be elected leader of their party 🥳 and made Prime Minister. Lying is a tory leadership prerequisite; hence, the current position of Truss the Untrustworthy.

[@MishMash22]

Totally agree 👍

[@BIGGGESTAL]

Fantastic comprehensive discussion on what we are all thinking. I applaud you Andrew

[@andypdq]

If growth is their top priority, the most effective thing they could do is to rejoin the single market.

[@ab-ym3bf]

Why is it so difficult for the English to get it in to their heads that there is no "rejoining the SM" option?

[@ab-ym3bf]

@rastapingpong that is getting really, really boring after the last 6 years. At least come up with some new lies and fantasy stories. Make an effort, not copy-paste.

[@DrWhom]

@@ab-ym3bf OF COURSE THAT OPTION EXISTS

[@ab-ym3bf]

@@DrWhom the less it is true, the more you have to shout about it. Typing in caps locks is shouting. And no, the SM is for members (eu, eea) only. If you think Switzerland, then also think what the EU has already said: no more Swiss style deals.

[@sleeplessjam7087]

"We are the party of growth" can I have a pay rise in line with the inflation you created "No"

[@leoportsmouth5138]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@audreymcgready4329]

How about the money they claim in expenses and for their energy bills and all their cheap food and drink in WM. I think their wages is more than enough to live off.

[@FART-REPELLENT]

The wages of these ministers or even back benchers isn't just enough to live on, it is enough to live comfortably and enables them to fulfill some of their desires; unlike those forced into minimum wage jobs which merely pay enough to live a banal and hopeless existence. If a GENUINE Living Wage of £15 an hour was introduced, unemployment would drop to ZERO

[@40yearoldvirgil15]

That would be a vote winner if Labour took their subsidies away despite it affecting themselves. They would be seen to be fair and sensitive in this current situation.

[@Tawny6702]

It’s the beginning of the end for the UK more like! Mike Bloomberg said it right, voting for Brexit was even dumber than voting for Trump!

[@kirkhunter146]

Nothing could be dumber than anyone voting for Trump

[@unvaccinated_proletariat6960]

DJT2024

[@unvaccinated_proletariat6960]

@@kirkhunter146 what about an unvaccinated Trump supporter 🤪

[@Tawny6702]

@@unvaccinated_proletariat6960 is dumber than dirt!

[@fredfish4316]

He was correct. They got rid of Trump. Brexit is here to stay. EU don"t want England back.

[@gjohnint]

We should cut MPs expenses and fiddles, close the House of Lords, particularlg now the Tories have allowed cash for honours to increase their funds and the number of people in the Lords taking their allowances for life

[@davidjohn64]

Guy Fawkes , comes to mind ... He should have a gong , from our new King ...

[@mister3566]

Nadine dorries in there yet?

[@40yearoldvirgil15]

We should also tax, as an eg, above 500k 55p, above 1m 60p, above 5m 70p. Something like that. We need to get the 600bn back the rich have stolen over the last 3 years.

[@Anton-ji4td]

It feels like the tory party are sleep walking over a cliff with Truss at the front.

[@Peter-Ac]

your wrong! WE will all be over that cliff first

[@michaelmouse4024]

Keep right on marching... The sooner they drop off the edge the better.

[@simonl4523]

The closest the party has been as broken up is with Peel in the mid 1840s, when it split and was out of power for the next 30 years. Well, that’s what I’m hoping for anyway.

[@davefave4351]

Exactly. The repeal of the corn laws (or rather, the infighting) led directly to the rise of Irish republicanism and the eventual establishment of the Irish Free State. See the parallel with the pandemic? Profit v Death?

[@davefave4351]

Approaching 60 and I'm fairly confident that I am witnessing the last Tory administration during my lifetime. After all, with impending Scottish Independence and a unified Ireland seeming more likely, what is the point of a 'Conservative and Unionist Party'? Anti growth union? One assumes that includes brexiteers?

[@ianlawrence8276]

As am i Dave, and i hope you are right.

[@davidjtovey1574]

Brilliant analysis and comment, thank you.

[@firebyrd437]

What I saw at these conferences is the tory party is the new UKIP party and Labour are the new Conservative party

[@johnmasterson2534]

Correct..bring on pr..,if not UK will slowly become a real 3rd world coungry

[@Friedfoodie]

We need more discussions like this.

[@magallamadge1532]

Good to see a young man with heart and head working….🙏👍

[@koenigkorczak]

"To be a populist, you have to be in some respects popular." 😂 I've nothing to add.

[@ashthebash66]

Popular with me. Trim the welfare state and cut taxes

[@simonevans343]

DONT FEEL SORRY FOR THEM

[@thejoin4687]

The beginning *was* the end

[@magallamadge1532]

I’m so happy seeing Andrew Marr free of the BBC… brilliant…the UK people need your voice and intelligence…. Thankyou all of you

[@mdev69]

When the public start chanting for Nationalized energy, drowning the voice of Shell darling Liz Truss even the Tories are going to turn on her before giving up the gravy train.

[@jjefferyworboys8138]

Only the public that have absolutely no idea how it could possibly be paid for, the cost would be huge and we are all borrowed out !

[@mdev69]

@@jjefferyworboys8138 why would you pay for it? That bill has been paid a thousand times over. Get in there and take it.

[@phille-heup]

The comments Truss made re her growing up in 80s & 90s and witnesing depravation etc etc are interesting as these were Thatcher premiership years.

[@kathythompson2434]

EXACTLY - SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT A PREVIOUS TORY GOVERNMENT AND THE FAILURES SHE WITNESSED WERE TORY INFLICTED MISS MANAGEMENT. OFCOURSE SHE FAILED TO MENTION THIS. OH YES.

[@kayew5492]

I know, I heard that and was thinking, she was there, she saw it, and that was her conclusion? More of the same? Is she trying to out -Thatcher Thatcher?

[@reiteration6273]

Andrew says he can imagine seeing "Anti-Growth Coalition" on t-shirts. He's not the only one. I've Googled it, and some folks are already selling them. 🤣

[@vincentl.9469]

what I would add is that the growth we've had for some years has been built on cheap credit-too cheap as it turns out. Now comes the pain. . Truss's plans are not her own, not original. she has no plan; this is desperate stuff. Kwasi from what I can see is an awful choice for chancellor. They are both awful. She keeps going on about cutting worker's taxes. will mean cuts in public spending. The past 2 years have been very costly. Taxes will go up. She has no plans, no answer to the channel migrant crisis. In effect, she is giving people, this country, the opposite of what they want...who can step in now? 😪

[@chriselliott726]

Marrs' opening comment is music to my ears.

[@Timsvideochannel1]

Time to get rid of everyone in politics from all parties, ban them for life and start with a whole new team chosen to actually represent the British people and carry out their wishes, including replacing the HOL with an elected body and bringing in proportional representation. None of today's dire crop of politicians are fit to lick my boots, let alone run a country, they leave me feeling embarrass and totally let down.

[@poshgentleman559]

Its certainly the beginning of the end of the Tories: Cameron, May, and Boris: were miles ahead of this woman. I think the reason she got in was: the old stuffy colonel types in the conservative party: did not want an indian chappy as PM old boy........and took quiet measures to prevent that happening......the end result being Truss, looking like a rabbit in headlights, as PM. Expect more pantomime as her premiership progresses. From my readings: a lot of the party don,t want her as PM......but know they must grin and bear it, the alternative is: yet another leadership contest, and all the parlava that comes with it.........

[@wolfiesmith7674]

It’s so frustrating watching those who should be Politics commenting on those who should definitely NOT be in politics never mind the party in charge.

[@johnfontana2483]

No expense was spared on the incredible scenery of the set!

[@BobQuigley]

Does anyone in UK understand math? UK population represents .01% of global population. UK has no natural resources left. It's an island. Recently told it's largest trading partners located 35 miles away through a convenient tunnel to drop dead. Many of it's former colonies still have fresh memories of centuries of humiliation and barbarism. It drives on the wrong side of the road. It decided the metric system is for sissies yet of course must use two systems of weights and measures, how inconvenient for suppliers? My guess is a mutated form of mad cow disease has infected the entire nation?

[@scheunep.9373]

UK.has oil though

[@Tawny6702]

@@scheunep.9373 Ha! Most of that was squandered on another trickle down experiment by Thatcher in the eighties! Britain needs to stop thinking it can be just like the US, the country with the worst inequality in the developed world! I lived there…..I know what I am talking about!!!

[@BobQuigley]

@@scheunep.9373 True, very little left. Unlike Nordic nations no $trillion plus sovereign fund to build path to future success. Like here in US the usual folks have all the money and have moved onto other nations for opportunity to steal more oil and money.

[@bluewendytube]

EXCUSE ME, NOT ALL OF US VOTED FOR BREXIT OR THESE VILE TORIES, NOR DO WE DISLIKE METRIC, NOR ARE WE RESPONSIBLE FOR HISTORICAL ATROCITIES, NOR ARE WE RESPONSIBLE FOR DECIDING WHICH SIDE OF THE RUDDY ROAD WE DRIVE ON. THANK YOU.....😡

[@bluewendytube]

MATH? DO YOU MEAN MATHS OR DOES THE S TAKE TOO LONG TO WRITE?!

[@jimmcaleenan7243]

The Eu has got stronger can't say the same for the Tory party

[@LRministries1]

No need to lie...have you seen the Euro? Or the debt of some of the top EU nations ?

[@Cheapskate1]

That is rubbish !!

[@frankshannon340]

Growth is easily achievable, rejoin the single market and customs union and allow free movement and we should see a 4% increase in GDP.

[@andrewwalsh2755]

Classic mistake. The past 40 years saw national debt increase by over £2 Trillion... All the time you thought a productive association with the EU and the world was generating jobs, prosperity, wealth, a higher standard of living etc it was being financed by debt.... Well, now you have an overpopulated country, needing cheap labour, cheap energy, cheap borrowing etc to avoid defaulting on debt... Energy just got expensive... and you better pray that the cheap imported labour doesn't decide to leave for somewhere better!

[@jananders1351]

A good conversation, just a pity that so much thought has been spent on such a worthless subject as the Tory party. Sadly for the Truss-Tories her list of anti-growth-coalition members probably represents a large majority of the UK public.

[@kevincox8905]

Unfortunately Liz and her mad cabinet are controlling (sic) the show so as clearly unhinged as they are they can't be ignored. In the nightmare scenario we could have 2 more years of Tories, God help us.

[@johnhallam5995]

The party of higher wages are they? But not rail workers, postal workers, dock workers, nurses or even barristers who are having to take industrial action for above inflation rises. So where are these well paid jobs going to be that the tories spout on about? They live in a different world to the rest of us.

[@RobinTurner]

It looks like the big fights in the Conservative Party now are going to be about who gets to be in the Shadow Cabinet.

[@rabmcnair4488]

Call Liz Truss' policies what they are, neo-liberalism.

[@roro-mm7cc]

A larger GDP doesn't necessarily mean that ordinary people will be better off anyway. For example, foreign investment into UK property (which increases GDP) has driven up house prices massively. To most young people, the idea of buying a house seems completely unattainable and as house prices increase, rent also increases meaning a higher proportion of your wages is going into rent. So while wages may increase with a larger economy, for many people this is counteracted by increases in rent, mortgage prices etc. Also for those who already own their own home, increasing house prices only give an illusion of increased wealth, however, this isn't disposable income. The only way of accessing the theoretical increase in wealth would be to sell and get a less valuable home (i.e decreasing your living standards overall). As you have the illusion of getting richer *on paper*, your children are getting poorer *in reality*. So this is an example of increased GDP = worse for most people. So I really don't buy this idea that an increased GDP always = better for ordinary people. It completely depends on how evenly the wealth is distributed across the population. It's also an unsustainable economic model as the earth doesn't contain an infinite supply of resources.

[@ab-ym3bf]

Very true. A lot of the perceived "wealth" of the UK has just been from selling the table silver, money that subsequently found its way to Bank accounts in safe havens for the few. "we" as society need to shift from a focus on GDP to being content and happy. As someone who gave up a well-paid, but stressful job to go live abroad in a country where the pace of life is lower but people appreciate their daily lives so much more I can, from experience, say that being poorer but having no stress and enjoy the day beats that shiny new car and big bank account everyday.

[@roro-mm7cc]

@@ab-ym3bf yeh I find it bizarre that we use this figure to measure economic success anyway. It totally depends on how that increase in GDP is achieved. If increase in GDP is simply due to a few foreign billionaires dumping their money into London property then I’d say it *disadvantages* the local economic output. We don’t need more foreign investment - we need more home grown innovation/industry. Investment from Foreign multinationals only makes it harder for local business/industry to gain a foothold.

[@前橋みき]

Superb discussion-excellent ‼️‼️

[@christophermiller4471]

Rejoining the Single Market and Customs Union would give a boost to growth as well as solving the Northern Ireland protocol. However the Truss Government are unlikely to change tack on Brexit.

[@leemccccccc999]

Not going to happen one time vote get over it

[@colinwhite5355]

Johnson wanted to be Churchill, Truss, Thatcher. None out of two isn’t bad.

[@brianfreeman8290]

In my 70s, I've supported the Tories for my entire adult life, even been a party member for a few years, but they certainly have lost my vote.

[@Kevin-mx1vi]

Why admit that this is all your fault ?

[@audreymcgready4329]

They needed a new enemy.

[@spindriftbeach6082]

Toxic Truss obviously believes in Fairies. The growth she's after just won't happen overnight meanwhile the pain for Joe Public gets worse and worse.

[@lloydupton5786]

Faster meltdown than a Mars bar in the Sahara 🥺!

[@anydroid]

More Freddie please 🤩

[@NewStatesman]

We'll do our best!

[@AB-zl4nh]

The Conservative Party has run out of ideas and energy. 12yrs has been long enough, time for a Labour Government hungry for something better.

[@leemccccccc999]

What for them to leave us in an even bigger state than we already are no thanks

[@followthetrawler]

Well measured and structured commentary - I will be proud to wear an AGC T-Shirt. Truss is a massive own goal for the Tory party, a gift for Starmer. I can't see her lasting 6 months before the grandees try to put Johnson back in power.

[@Irisphotojournal]

Iv'e come to believe that there is no party fit to serve this country, Boris was hopeless but L Truss has already shown herself to be inadequte for the job of PM. If she is the best we have we are in worse trouble than I ever thought we could be.

[@onceamusician5408]

the beginning of the end? and so quick!! there was not even the end of the beginning, which was how Churchill described victory in the Battle of Britain in 1940

[@kayew5492]

You must have missed it; it was the 2 days between meeting the Queen and her acceptance speech.

[@DCFunBud]

Truss is the ultimate Karen. Get rid of her before she hurts somebody else.

[@jimharris6389]

"We asked 100 people to name something that grows. You said pie ..." 🤣 #growthepie

[@bearsbreeches]

Why should MPs jobs be any safer than anyone else's. They can go out and get another job or cut back on their spending

[@bearsbreeches]

I mean you 👉 Jake Berry

[@robertgoddard7046]

The personal allowance tax threshold should be raised with inflation for a start. Atleast thats fair for everyone and money going around to keep every business afloat, not just the Bentley dealership. Fat chance of that though!! . I've always been a Conservative voter, because of Labours boom and bust policy's in the past. Liz truss is just doing her best to make a massive rich poor divide. Labour don't let me down and get a general election now!!!

[@paullacey2999]

There party is a growth,the nastiest parasite we are going to need to cut out sooner rather than later..

[@harveybrown37]

No Andrew Marr, it’s worse than you suggest. Since 2012 both France and Germany have had far larger growth than Uk under the disastrous Tories.

[@humptydumty4975]

All this because middle class are suffering. If it was just less well off no one would give stuff. Thy have been doing this to the less well off for long time.

[@Rwswal]

Good to see Andrew Marr having recovered so well

[@FoolOfGods]

Best political example of "careful what you wish for" .... the clock is ticking - and it's a Truss up between civil unrest and an election debacle - if only Robin Day or even Dimblelby were still with us ... they'd have wiped the floor with these clowns 🤡

[@andrewwalsh2755]

... then battered them... and served them up on a plate... For Mumsnet to devour them...

[@col.hertford9855]

I’d like to she her on Paxman too. She would be sushi

[@oysteroid4030]

Almost 2 months , this is a long time. What has Sunak done for the UK. What is shown is arguing in Parliament. UK salary paid in not for personal failures.

[@gordonwilson1631]

It has been shown it now does not matter who the Tory leader is, as long as they get their shock therapy through as legislation. That point is to deliver for their funders and backers, many unknown foreign ones. Meanwhile we get weeks of talking heads discussing her popularity. The trap of the cult of personality.

[@whkee]

This should be a warm up for Truss

[@terrybrownbill2175]

Clamping down on tax loopholes for the super wealthy seems to be a way to rebalance wealth equity. To continue to look to banking/financial services as the holy economic cow is to miss the point. Bankers are just gamblers with other peoples money. Countries like Britain need to make things and sell them. The North was where people made things. It needs to do so again and Truss and her Government have clearly demonstrated that they have no clue as to how to make that happen. She needs to go and go now.

[@peterlloyd6337]

'Funny', so Liz T. is a qualified CIMA accountant - mmm, so how on earth has this sad state of affairs over the last 2 weeks arisen then where no support for her and her chancellor's mini budget - where were the 'checks and balances' then as any accountant should have been asking themselves.....

[@BobQuigley]

The 'productivity' loss is baloney. It's been stuck for nearly twenty years! Why? How much new productivity can be squeezed from the same workers after forty years of gains? THE SYSTEM IS BROKEN. NO SILVER BULLETS. The year is 2022 not 1980. We're in a new world, one which never existed before. There's 8 billion precious humans today.... Nation state model is useless

[@vicky8919]

Well said nation state model is a danger to the planet, some crazy ruler of a nation can decide to burn down a huge forest and other fellow humans cant do anything as some dumbass owns that nation.

[@davidpalk5010]

As a proud Daily Express reader I love Liz Truss. The new Thatcher. Breath of fesh air. Speaks her sensible and successful mind against the stupid and feckless majority. Poor Uber drivers and single mums simply need to re-train as futures traders or political lobbyists or TV personalities or lottery winners. Cut benefits and make the needy sink or swim. Don't worry, the good ones will swim, for sure! Leave the economy to the market - and subsidise it with government borrowing to boost shareholder dividends so that the truly deserving can continue to dine out and go cruising. Sell peerages to the highest cash bidder, with the new king as chief salesman, as he seems to have some relevant experience. Send the unpatriotic remoaners to flithy cages deep in the Rwandan jungle, plus any incomer who cannot list every monarch back to 1485 in fluent esturine English. Sell cheese and wine to France. Fast-track immigration for Christians. Get pheasant shooting into the Commonwealth Games. Deny climate change. Scrap the minimum wage and human rights. Fracking, everywhere, now. Hobble the unhelpful judiciary. Cull more badgers. Sell all remaining council houses to private landlords. Build fusion power stations, tomorrow, if not earlier. Shut the socialist NHS and privatise the whole of education, with Union flags in every classroom and reintroduction of enthusiastic corporal punishment. No more solar farms. Build over the greenbelt. Make investment banking a GCSE subject. Raise MP's pay and expenses. Open pork markets in China. Put Prince Andrew back on the balcony, with his eldest brother and the beautiful new queen, in his favourite admiral's uniform with lots of gold braid. Bring back hanging. Bring back stocks and flogging. Yes, mention the war!!! Describe men and women as such without fear of being sacked. Make strikes illegal. Have pride in our great Imperialist past. We built those backward natives some wonderful plantations, factories, railways and ports. For goodness sake - why are they not more grateful? Get that new Royal Yacht finished. Re-legalise drink driving, and fox hunting, and bear bating. Crush XR and BLM once and for all with new police powers. Add Greenpeace to the list of terrorist organisations. Hate the French. Pints, miles, pounds and ounces. Growth, growth, growth. I'm backing Liz and her successful new Britain. This treasonous lot of whinging commie vegans around the table should just shut up and have some respect for their rightful and righteous new leader.

[@col.hertford9855]

Satire I assume?

[@davidpalk5010]

@@col.hertford9855 No, unfortunately. It's all what she/they actually want to do or are doing already - except the bit about bear bating. Have you heard what Braverman has been saying lately? She's gleefully dreaming of illegal and unjust deportation flights to Africa, and takes unapologetic pride in our genocidal, imperial past. Trump, Boris, and now this lot. It's gone well beyond satire. But, at least she has invented the ficticious "Anti-Growth Coalition", which if real would be the party that would get my vote!

[@DrWhom]

@@col.hertford9855 SAFE TO ASSUME

[@smartguy9101]

Talking about low growth how much have of our exports decreased as a % since Brexit? My business has lost 12.5% since leaving the EU

[@vicky8919]

No EU country has growth

[@kenreeve6549]

Very informative thank you

[@Sandsrodrick]

It’s not all about growth. The size of the economy is huge. The problem is how we distribute income and wealth.

[@buntyjoy1800]

She wants to do all these things, the nobody voted for.

[@martincheeseman5809]

Come on Andrew help us Please!

[@ewoodrailway]

I think they voted for her as a joke. She is a joke

[@scouseraph]

Liz Truss is a prime example of the saying "the grass isn't always greener" Bring back Boris all is forgiven

[@weswheel4834]

So what's her theory on why growth was low in Leeds at that time? Does she think that Thatcher was too much of a socialist?

[@dadsbarmy254]

Unfortunately we have 2 years of the Tories burning the house down until we can get a labour government. I do also think about Mark Blyth quoting an ordinary man "your GDP" "your GDP" "your GDP".

[@leemccccccc999]

No thanks to labour after the mess they left us in during 08 bank crash

[@john_atco]

Truss wants the population to fear her.

[@jjefferyworboys8138]

A tax cut and my stamp duty bill has been reduced by £2500, I like her a lot.

[@dng3mjh]

Low growth came with austerity. It's surely obvious that more, or increased austerity will only decrease growth. Growth requires investment in assets and people, domestic and international. Do what the mega rich do, except for the benefit of the country and not private investors.

[@snowfiresunwind]

Spot on!

[@ianchadderton5294]

Great discussion. When are we going to finally see the back of this despicable government? Liz Truss must be the worst prime minister ever. I thought Boris was bad, Maggie worse but this cold hearted shape-shifter is contemptible.

[@euroswilliams7303]

I'd say AM says everything within his first sentence when he says that the politicians are asking about the future of their careers. Its sad to see that a politician has to have their own future within that role put in jeopardy prior to them making a choice that put their constituents above their party. Party politics has so many flaws.

[@michaelflinn7784]

Truss is the latest ex PM. She's handed the UK to Starmer on a platter

[@danielh4032]

If I teach my parrot to repeat “Blame Putin’s illegal war” perhaps it could become PM.

[@davidmyers4056]

Don't talk about tories problems. 90.000 a year they must be struggling. Talk about People on 15.000 a year and less, they are really are having a bad time.

[@Ctaff63]

It’s the beginning of the end of the Conservative party ,that’s for sure.

[@peterm7548]

Big up the anti-growth coalition!

[@craigross341]

Growth just means more goods and services produced in the territory. It says nothing about who owns the product. If workers are relatively unskilled and not instrumental in the process, machinery is moveable, property rights are fairly secure, tariffs are fairly low and trade is straightforward, then workers won't receive much of that pie. We can't handle that truth. We may already be in an age where things improve fast for the median workers in the developing world and the West's median workers discover that they were the main beneficiaries of capitalism. Global instability reduced the labour pool. Machine owners huddled. That's all over.

[@donaldthomson9411]

They made a big mistake with Truss instead of Sunak

[@peterdillon836]

I can't watch her speak. Soul destroying. Utterly scared for the future of the working class of Britain. The quality of our modern politicians is extremely low.

[@FatHeadedZebra]

Hopefully it comes sooner rather than later

[@keithroy9217]

The trouble with Truss is she got the priorities wrong. “Move fast and break things”. She’s just breaking things.

[@ShaunieDale]

It’s like there’s this enormous elephant in the room that no one will talk about, it’s profit. To control inflation, to control interest rates it has to be reduce expenditure, reduce wages or at least prevent wages rising. But none of the talking heads will look at profits being taken, why can they not be put under pressure? Too many people are taking money from the system who have done nothing to earn it. Why is that the people who generate the wealth have to tighten their belts still further? People who have already had the earnings, quality of life and human rights steadily eroded over the last twelve years of Tory misrule. If we are all in it together why are the wealthy continuing to increase their wealth at a rate well beyond inflation. Why are they not having to tighten their ample belts?

[@jn715-i3h]

The biggest issue here is it's Truss is trying to build something with the wrong materials, the UK is not set up like the US for growth. The UK has not started in the late 90s to monetize internet like the US, now look at the US in 2022, all the large social media and online retailers are US owned, the US more or less owns the global digital economy. It has had more than a 20 year strategic economic plan with this and Blackrock US owned is the largest asset manager globally. So why in last week hasn't there been any throught from Truss to go back to secure the US trade deal, Boris could not do it and now it seems Truss cannot do it. If the UK had a trade deal with the US, some of the choas we saw over the last few weeks would have been prevented!