It's Time For The New Orleans Saints To Clean House And Fully Rebuild

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@Chitownmadematt
@Chitownmadematt 3 күн бұрын
Saints haven't been a Super Bowl contender since Drew Brees retired
@geoffhoutman1557
@geoffhoutman1557 3 күн бұрын
Since the no call game
@yb1504
@yb1504 3 күн бұрын
If we want to rebuild Loomis has to go this off-season
@geoffhoutman1557
@geoffhoutman1557 3 күн бұрын
Today if possible
@hs5312
@hs5312 3 күн бұрын
Hard disagree the AFC south is the worst division in the NFL
@MA1NMANMA1N1AC
@MA1NMANMA1N1AC 3 күн бұрын
Head to head the worse.
@adamthespinygiant
@adamthespinygiant 3 күн бұрын
Update: the Giants now have the 4th pick. At least we still have a top 5 pick. As for the teams that are ahead of us: - Patriots - they already have Drake Maye - Titans - they are most likely getting a QB - Browns - I can see them getting a QB but they’re trapped with (named redacted)
@APST21
@APST21 3 күн бұрын
Carson beck you are a new york giant 😂
@adamthespinygiant
@adamthespinygiant 3 күн бұрын
@@APST21we really are screwed. Our only hope is that he (or Dillion Gabriel or Kyle McCord) ends up like Bo Nix.
@Dremarenco22
@Dremarenco22 3 күн бұрын
Top 5 pick?? Bro I think we may be 7 or 9. I could be mistaken
@geoffhoutman1557
@geoffhoutman1557 3 күн бұрын
We are picking at #10 Dude has no clue
@Da-Boo33
@Da-Boo33 3 күн бұрын
We did better with bridgewater
@geoffhoutman1557
@geoffhoutman1557 3 күн бұрын
He was available a week ago. Teddy is Brees compared to what we have now
@alu.304
@alu.304 3 күн бұрын
​@@geoffhoutman1557compared to the Temu version of Mahomes aka Owen Rattler, any QB is better🤣
@BillyRayValentineFCOJ
@BillyRayValentineFCOJ 3 күн бұрын
You mean with pre-injury Michael Thomas? With Latavius Murray able to get 870 yards from scrimmage rather than having Kendre Miller going on IR repeatedly? With Ryan Ramczyk and Terron Armstead at Tackle? Yeah, having a roster is awesome...
@lestershipman3039
@lestershipman3039 Күн бұрын
Carr average
@divineeternity7268
@divineeternity7268 3 күн бұрын
You get rid of Derek Carr and you still have bad management, bad coaching, sorry players and cap hell. The life of the Saints. ⚜️💯
@CDDawg
@CDDawg 3 күн бұрын
I told y'all that y'all ain't gonna do nothing this season did I said that lol look at my eagles 13-3 and y'all just got beat by sorry ass raiders 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@geoffhoutman1557
@geoffhoutman1557 3 күн бұрын
Carr was another bad Mickey decision. As was Dense Allen. I see a pattern...
@blvckdxvth
@blvckdxvth 3 күн бұрын
that’s exactly why derek carr isn’t THE only problem. he is mid. he is indicative of the problem. loomis’ decision making has us in this bind. carr is a bad decision made by the loomis/allen regime. he should still be fired yesterday, but he’s not the only name on that chopping block.
@divineeternity7268
@divineeternity7268 3 күн бұрын
@@CDDawg You ain't say the whole team was going to be injured and we'll be starting the practice squad by week 5. Hold that noise.
@divineeternity7268
@divineeternity7268 3 күн бұрын
@geoffhoutman1557 It goes all the way back to Dennis Allen. He was NEVER fit to be our coach.
@EvilFiend-e8f
@EvilFiend-e8f 3 күн бұрын
as a rams fan as well. man hearing you say superteam was kinda lit and hella worth it for the super bowl trophy'
@KermitTFYT
@KermitTFYT 3 күн бұрын
Hopefully the raider fans that masquerade as saints fans listen to this.
@geoffhoutman1557
@geoffhoutman1557 3 күн бұрын
And leave? 🤞🏽
@lestershipman3039
@lestershipman3039 Күн бұрын
@@geoffhoutman1557facts
@lestershipman3039
@lestershipman3039 Күн бұрын
Facts
@yellaboiroc3188
@yellaboiroc3188 3 күн бұрын
The only reason he has chemistry with those deep threat receivers as he can't do much when it comes to short or intermediate passes unless he's checking that thing down he's chucking it deep and hoping somebody catches
@shawneuro1944
@shawneuro1944 Күн бұрын
In 2009 we got a new car In 2017 we suped it up In 2020 we replace the engine In 2024 we riding on fumes
@freedom_at_the_cross
@freedom_at_the_cross 3 күн бұрын
Carr wouldn't even save us lol
@Nola_14-y6g
@Nola_14-y6g 3 күн бұрын
And he never will lol
@BasicHaddock4
@BasicHaddock4 3 күн бұрын
I agree with everything you said
@SamJanet-b2y
@SamJanet-b2y 2 күн бұрын
Yes it is time for them to rebuild their culture harder than they did almost 20 years after the horrifying events of Hurricane Katrina.
@garymorel1882
@garymorel1882 3 күн бұрын
Ryan ram isn’t coming back last I checked he’s lost a ton of weight His knee is degenerative no cure no fix and he wants to be able to walk for his children. He was only on the roster because if we cut him, it cost more this year. He will either retire in the off season. Or before the new season And yes, he was great he will be missed But this team needs lineman on both sides of the ball and for God sake we need some speed on our D line
@ryant3556
@ryant3556 Күн бұрын
As a Bucs fan I used to fear Cam Jordan, now i look forward to it.
@shaunatwood9805
@shaunatwood9805 3 күн бұрын
I’m still mad he cut at Perry - saints fan
@Nola_14-y6g
@Nola_14-y6g 3 күн бұрын
Me too
@Bandit9539
@Bandit9539 3 күн бұрын
That’s the problem we don’t have nfl level talent on the roster right now. We been wiffing on picks lately, we need to get away from Sean Payton staff. Mickey is in the Will of Tom benson so he would have to step away.
@samuelscarber7803
@samuelscarber7803 Күн бұрын
A TEAM IS BUILT FROM THE INSIDE OUT PERIOD
@todayisanewday7
@todayisanewday7 3 күн бұрын
Saints need bountygate to win again
@ryant3556
@ryant3556 Күн бұрын
One point of contention, I don't think moving off Lattimore was the right move.
@JamesStrother-zf9mo
@JamesStrother-zf9mo 3 күн бұрын
Mickey Loomis is the Problem. The reason Sean Payton left and the reason The Pelicans Suck also.
@BenjaminBrown-o8r
@BenjaminBrown-o8r 3 күн бұрын
So sick of this tanking shit. "WAHHHHHHHH DERECK CARR IS MID START SPENCER RATTLER SO WE CAN TANK" They should have a draft lottery for all the non-playoff teams. You shouldn't be rewarded for being the biggest loser.
@bigsmokey7843
@bigsmokey7843 3 күн бұрын
Saints need a young offensive minded coach and a new GM.
@zach718
@zach718 3 күн бұрын
I knew he had no idea what he was talking abuot when he said ramczyk would maybe return next season. He is retiring as soon as this season is over.
@zach718
@zach718 3 күн бұрын
bro is wild, Carr is playing better this last 13 months than any other time in his career so to say hes a worse version than him with the Raiders is crazy.
@trossity9930
@trossity9930 Күн бұрын
Saying exactly what ive been saying about Carr for years as a raiders fan. Carr is a great dude, he could be towards the top end of QBs but hes too injury prone at the worst times and hes simply too inconsistent. Ive been saying it since 2018. For every good thing he does he is guarantee to do something equally bad. Half of the season he'll be lighting it up, then he'll disappear. He'll make a sick play and then the very next play he'll tbrow it into triple coverage to "give his guy a chance" as he puts it. But all i had to hear for years is about how its not Carrs fault he just needs talent around him. Now i dont know how good the saints are, but he chose to go there. So that whole no surrounding talent argument goes out the window(it was never valid to begin with)
@gagemongesku7352
@gagemongesku7352 3 күн бұрын
With all the injuries on the offensive side of the ball, I'm not surprised they can hardly score. Most of these receivers are barely practice squad level guys. No amount of coaching can fix that. You can't say Rattler is incapable because there isn't a single qb that could put up points with this roster.
@DoubleKAllday
@DoubleKAllday 3 күн бұрын
Offensive is terrible PERIOD
@jammalblue3027
@jammalblue3027 3 күн бұрын
Reality is the Saints are not gonna be good for the next 2-3 years, We need an overhaul
@climactic
@climactic 3 күн бұрын
Y’all gotta stop saying NFC south the worst. AFC south is worse
@Magic_Luisx
@Magic_Luisx 2 күн бұрын
-Cut Carr -Draft Milroe -Trade Demario davis, Juwan Johnson -Hire Aaron gleen In my opinion as a fan this would be a good choice.
@vtran1082
@vtran1082 3 күн бұрын
Make olave wear a cushion helmet. Get rid of Juwaun Johnson...he sucks too..
@dl9232
@dl9232 3 күн бұрын
We need a true #1 receiver. Olave is just too small.🤷🏿‍♂️
@BillyRayValentineFCOJ
@BillyRayValentineFCOJ 3 күн бұрын
Trade Olave to anyone dumb enough to take him
@simsfann2129
@simsfann2129 3 күн бұрын
@@BillyRayValentineFCOJ On behalf of Tennessee, I propose to you Olave for Treylon Burks, one of King Henry's old jockstraps, and a 1st edition signed copy of "How to build a 53-man roster using only UDFAs" by Jon Robinson. Deal or no deal?
@BillyRayValentineFCOJ
@BillyRayValentineFCOJ 3 күн бұрын
@@simsfann2129 While I certainly feel the Titans are one of the teams that would be willing to take Olave, at this point even the Saints aren't dumb enough to take Burks...
@lestershipman3039
@lestershipman3039 Күн бұрын
And get carr off the team trade cut just move on from him
@ChristopherFava-z2y
@ChristopherFava-z2y 3 күн бұрын
We fired Dennis allen mickey loomis needs to go,we need someone to draft better talent,injuries everywhere, we got like a practice squad team out their
@Rob-WhoDat
@Rob-WhoDat 3 күн бұрын
I don't understand your assessment of the D-linemen, as being good players. If any of them were good, we wouldn't have the 30th ranked run defense.
@doom2547
@doom2547 3 күн бұрын
Carr has been a losing qb for 11 years. Nothing but excuses with his fans
@donworryboudat
@donworryboudat 3 күн бұрын
11 seasons and has only played in 1 playoff game and lost to the bengals 😂
@Rob-WhoDat
@Rob-WhoDat 3 күн бұрын
also, our linebackers & secondary are slow and can't tackle!
@popjibbletz
@popjibbletz 3 күн бұрын
I think the Saints should mortgage it all and pay Carr another 50 million per year for 10 years. Worry about the cap situation later. That is the way you run a team
@donworryboudat
@donworryboudat 3 күн бұрын
🤦‍♂️
@BigVeliStayReady
@BigVeliStayReady 2 күн бұрын
Did you just say we have two good run stoppers??? Stop it bruh. One of the MAIN things we need is a run stopper. We just let a 10 year Vet get his FIRST 100+ yard game against us. Stop it.
@venusrose9890
@venusrose9890 3 күн бұрын
I remember when the Saints idiotic cap management had delusional fans on every team demanding that their GM go get ANYONE because "The cap isn't real. Look at the Saints." This never made any sense to me because the other shoe was obviously going to drop after Brees retired.
@ejford5083
@ejford5083 3 күн бұрын
2 years with Carr: Carr 14-10, Rattler 0-5, Winston 0-3, Haener 0-1. Numbers don’t lie, without Carr the Saints don’t win.
@Dremarenco22
@Dremarenco22 3 күн бұрын
Wtf so u saying no other qb will bring us success and dc is the answer. My brother in Christ, what are you smoking…and may I indulge with you
@dl9232
@dl9232 3 күн бұрын
​@@Dremarenco22, this team desperately needs o-line help. Almost all of the top offenses also have top 10 offensive lines. If you take Carr and Kamara and out them behind the Lions #1 ranked offensive line, they would absolutely excel. The fact that Carr was able to pull 5 wins out of this team is incredible. Last year, he helped improve our offense from 22nd to 9th in scoring with terrible o-line play, terrible playcalling, almost no run game, and multiple injuries to skill players and himself.🤷🏿‍♂️👍🏿
@geoffhoutman1557
@geoffhoutman1557 3 күн бұрын
Carr one game over .500 Your numbers lie
@ericsipe8619
@ericsipe8619 3 күн бұрын
@@dl9232nah- just need to stay healthy. Team was really good at the beginning of the year and was competitive against the best teams even when the injuries started piling up.
@ericsipe8619
@ericsipe8619 3 күн бұрын
Got to love fans- team looks dominant when healthy and injuries to multiple positions pile up and the team is very competitive with carr against the top teams. When Carr goes out, the team looks abysmal. Their solution- I know let’s get rid of Carr! 😂😂 You can’t make this shit up. It’s insane.
@imnotkel__
@imnotkel__ 3 күн бұрын
need a falcons vid
@Rob-WhoDat
@Rob-WhoDat 3 күн бұрын
Take away Hurts, Barkley, Smith, Brown, Goddert, Jurgens(C), Johnson(T), and Dickerson(G), then tell me how many wins the Eagles would have. Do that same experiment with every team and you'll notice that they all would crumble. Just sayin
@ryanromero4087
@ryanromero4087 2 күн бұрын
I agree with the majority of your takes except Brese is terrible against the run. I am down with a change at GM maybe even rebuild the scouting department and medical staff and get the roster younger. Eat as much Dead cap space as possible getting rid of as many aging/overpaid veterans as possible. I'm right there with you and I don't trust Mickey Looney Loomis Doomis to hire my coach and rebuild my team!
@DoubleKAllday
@DoubleKAllday 3 күн бұрын
Carr is mediocre been playing for 11 years.
@mdotnelson
@mdotnelson 3 күн бұрын
Tell the carrdashians that. Absolutely deranged cult group
@NIIBright
@NIIBright 2 күн бұрын
what's up, I agree with most of what you're saying, but I disagree with getting the DC from Detroit, yes he is a damn good coach, but I believe the Saints should steer away from coaches with pass ties, find someone that doesn't agree with Mickey Loomis, but you know what , it just came to me... I believe if you get rid of Loomis, then its ok to hire Detroits DC, but at any rate, I believe the Saints should get an offensive minded coach... Its a Shame that - that team is stuck with Mickey Loomis, he's clearly the problem down there, he don't need money, he don't give a damn about football, he also runs the New Orleans Pelicans, he's doing a bad job with that, and he won't just step down from football, Its like they're afraid to get rid of him, its some strange shit going on in New Orleans!
@SamJanet-b2y
@SamJanet-b2y 2 күн бұрын
And maybe Taysom Hill should be the starter.
@lestershipman3039
@lestershipman3039 Күн бұрын
Nah
@westhoff-
@westhoff- Күн бұрын
and willie gay shouldn't be starting, he should be on special teams.
@BWayn31973
@BWayn31973 Күн бұрын
Carr and several other veterans need to go. ML needs to be fired asap. Bring in JG as GM or HC..
@westhoff-
@westhoff- Күн бұрын
Davis and mathieu are cooked! Davis has lost two steps, has no range, and misses too many tackles. Why does Davis get a pass?
@ityndall11
@ityndall11 3 күн бұрын
Need a panthers video
@redman167
@redman167 3 күн бұрын
Can't do a rebuild without eating several big contracts.
@JAVARRIS88
@JAVARRIS88 3 күн бұрын
Derek Carr will be remembered by leading the black hole into the playoffs once..I think
@Ps7apple
@Ps7apple 3 күн бұрын
No one will remember him, not even Raiders fans.
@geoffhoutman1557
@geoffhoutman1557 3 күн бұрын
I keep thinking David Carr. He went to a Super Bowl maybe. He has a brother?
@JoseRojas-u8z2z
@JoseRojas-u8z2z 2 күн бұрын
The Raiders made the playoffs twice with Carr. In 2017, Carr didn't play in that playoff game due to a broken tibia he sustained in the last regular season game. He played in the second playoff game (2022), Raiders lost 19-26 to the Bengals.
@astout42
@astout42 3 күн бұрын
You lost me at keeping Rashid and Olave as powerful weapons... No Rashid and Olave are just the best we got... Rashid can only catch passes when he is wide open. Olave has been getting concussions since college.. Your title says rebuild but pretty much said the only thing wrong with this team is the QB 😂😂 This is an emotional take.
@geoffhoutman1557
@geoffhoutman1557 3 күн бұрын
We have a great kicker and Wait, I’m thinking Hmmm
@ReDRuMx96
@ReDRuMx96 3 күн бұрын
I disagree about the Saunders and Shepherd part. They both are not good. Good depth/rotational player, not starting material. I’ve been saying this all season. They are both weak ass hell. They both get bullied and pushed around, all our DTs get pushed around. That’s why the middle is always open for RBs to run down our throats. What’s the reason behind a weak run defense? It’s the defensive line, mainly the interior’s job. The Saints should consider drafting a DT if they’re going defense first
@tedperea1817
@tedperea1817 3 күн бұрын
The Saints are a complete mess they resemble the Saints from the early 1980s. The time when the fans came to the game with paper bags on their heads. It's time for ownership to sell the team and completely start over. In pain English an exorcist must be conducted!
@chuma2g
@chuma2g 3 күн бұрын
Couldn't agree more. This franchise is dead food. REBUILD, REBUILD, REBUILD!!!!
@proft.mcstine8245
@proft.mcstine8245 3 күн бұрын
Thank you Let carr go we know who carr is at this point in his career we seen enough of him and the rest of them vets that's past there prime get young get a new coach with attitude, and fire Micky The offensive coordinator hasn't been the same since the eagles
@KermitTFYT
@KermitTFYT 3 күн бұрын
4:29 firmly disagree with that statement. If we gave taysom a shot after brees retired he’d be Josh Allen with slightly worse accuracy. He was screwed out of becoming a great qb. Now his career is likely over.
@divineeternity7268
@divineeternity7268 3 күн бұрын
Hill is another aging player who can't stay healthy and I remember when we did give him a shot he very well held on to the ball too long. That Eagles game with the number 1 seed on the line when Brees was hurt. I didn't forget. 🤔⚜️
@syminite1
@syminite1 3 күн бұрын
Im a Falcons fan who been kicked in the teeth plenty of times by Drew brees, Trust me, Taysom hill aint no damn quarterback.
@KermitTFYT
@KermitTFYT 3 күн бұрын
@ there is 100000% more reasons so start taysom than Carr in their primes. I don’t think you realize just how amazing he was 7-2 as a starting qb. Don’t forget the entire team was injured. Which is why we needed a grass field and not a turf field.
@KermitTFYT
@KermitTFYT 3 күн бұрын
@@syminite1 28-3
@Nickydafish
@Nickydafish 3 күн бұрын
I love me some taysom hill but he’s not a full time nfl starting qb. In his time at byu he played like this, ran a lot, single read and not a lot of touch. In his time in the nfl, the scouting reports that were conveyed to me basically said that he wasn’t able to read defenses well enough to find the open guy on full field reads, that he was a guy that can do half field reads and most of his passes were rockets even when he needed to finesse it. Could he have improved? Maybe but I never saw anything that suggested he could be the full time guy year end and year out. The teams record when he started is a thing but still a TEAM thing and not direct evidence of him being able to be a long term starter. My two cents.
@charlesjonesjr.864
@charlesjonesjr.864 3 күн бұрын
How is the offensive line not terrible when 3 of the 5 starters couldn't start on any other team but the Saints? Ryan Ramcheck has no cartilage in one of his knees, his career is over bruh
@geoffhoutman1557
@geoffhoutman1557 3 күн бұрын
Commanders going to playoffs with replacement O linemen Loomis has ruined us
@nickmessner700
@nickmessner700 3 күн бұрын
Imagine blaming any of the Saints failures on Derek Carr this year. Genuinely brain dead take.
@APST21
@APST21 3 күн бұрын
Imagine taking up for a Quarterback that can’t stay healthy and folds against top teams what a brain dead take.
@nickmessner700
@nickmessner700 3 күн бұрын
@APST21 10 Years in the league, total missed games 8. That's someone that can't stay healthy in your mind? Led what would've been a game winning drive against the Eagles, then the defense bailed them out, threw a dime on 4th down against the Chiefs that got dropped (injuring his oblique during the throw mind you) but he folds against top teams? Kinda proving my point on the brain dead takes thing.
@APST21
@APST21 3 күн бұрын
@@nickmessner700 Should have and could have doesn't win you games in this league unfortunately. Derek carr has been in the NFL for a decade now and is still in the same category. And talk about that horrible interception against the Kansas City Chiefs when he got blitzed and just threw it to the defender. He also was a part of this team losing to the panthers.
@nickmessner700
@nickmessner700 3 күн бұрын
@APST21 Sure, those were bad plays, he's been around a long time and had plenty of them. But to pretend he isn't demonstrably the best option this team has is dishonest. Especially after watching his replacement chuck up two picks to the Raiders, making a video about how he's the problem is indefensible.
@BillyRayValentineFCOJ
@BillyRayValentineFCOJ 3 күн бұрын
Absolutely a brain dead take to blame DC4. But these kid doesn't even watch football and doesn't form opinions until ESPN hands them to him.
@StevenStansfield-q1q
@StevenStansfield-q1q 2 күн бұрын
Saints just can't win lack of confident coaching
@johnfonseca8155
@johnfonseca8155 3 күн бұрын
Bruh this dude on this channel just doesn’t know much about football. If you can’t realize that this team is very bad in just about all positions except the QB position then you Ray Charles! Start by upgrading the Oline, Dline, and really the entire defense is trash especially honey badger can’t tackle for schits! No edge rushers! Corners are just ok. Offense, trade Olave for Devante Adams and draft a stud TE or acquire thru free agency. Lastly bring in Hunter Renfrow, Shaheed, and Scatling we’d be fine at WR’s
@dl9232
@dl9232 3 күн бұрын
No Renfrow, but the rest is fine. Renfrow is too small and fragile to be a force anymore.
@BillyRayValentineFCOJ
@BillyRayValentineFCOJ 3 күн бұрын
Kid knows NOTHING about football. NOTHING. But that's the curse of this platform. Any idiot with a microphone and time to kill can make this kind of content.
@geoffhoutman1557
@geoffhoutman1557 3 күн бұрын
Bring in more Raiders? Lol We have zero QBs with a winning record, QB room needs demolishing
@dl9232
@dl9232 3 күн бұрын
@@geoffhoutman1557 stop focusing on the qb room and start focusing on WHY they're not succeeding. Has Carr been successful with a decent offensive line? Absolutely. He placed 3rd in MVP voting and took his team to a 12-3 record. Do quarterbacks typically need a good offensive line to be successful? Absolutely. The teams with the top 10 offensive lines include Detroit, Denver, Washington, Buffalo, Baltimore, Kansas City, Tampa Bay, Philadelphia...
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