It's Time To Fix Magic The Gathering Arena! | Dies To Removal 43

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Tolarian Community College

Tolarian Community College

2 жыл бұрын

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@TolarianCommunityCollege
@TolarianCommunityCollege 2 жыл бұрын
Does Magic: The Gathering Have A Treasure Problem? - WotC Plz: kzbin.info/www/bejne/g6bVoX-emrOWbM0
@obadijahparks
@obadijahparks 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, yes it does.
@nottiredofwinning3736
@nottiredofwinning3736 2 жыл бұрын
Why do you have a rapists book on your bookshelf though?
@raimundkeller6115
@raimundkeller6115 2 жыл бұрын
Saving up mana for later is really strong. Treasure is way to easy to get. Josh from the commandzone suggested an errata that lets Treasure tokens come into play tapped. Ugly but effective
@TijnMercx
@TijnMercx 2 жыл бұрын
Professor, I was wondering what your opinions are on hearthstone Ive been playing it for multiple years now and since you named a couple of things runeterra did that magic should do I got interested if hearthstone had similar aspects like that which magic could learn from Personally I'd say that magic has a terrible feeling to it, everything sounds the same and lies very still on the board Hearthstone on the other hand is really alive and warm With funny voice lines for every character and multiplayer options such as battleground
@zacharylindahl
@zacharylindahl 2 жыл бұрын
The eternal tcg is also good an was designed by mtg pros. wotc seems to be taking notes from gw
@ArcturusMinsk
@ArcturusMinsk 2 жыл бұрын
The goal of Arena was never to bring the MTG experience to a digital market, it was to capitalize on Hearthstone's success.
@raimundkeller6115
@raimundkeller6115 2 жыл бұрын
Hs isnt that successful anymore. Arena will meet the same fate
@SeriosSkies92
@SeriosSkies92 2 жыл бұрын
@@raimundkeller6115 That was less the game and more the scandals.
@javierlopezruiz7300
@javierlopezruiz7300 2 жыл бұрын
And still Arena never had the spark that hs has or had
@520_metal
@520_metal 2 жыл бұрын
@@raimundkeller6115 hs makes tons of money still
@boobonet9088
@boobonet9088 2 жыл бұрын
I would argue it was to HARM hearthstones success primarily.
@zeradox1901
@zeradox1901 2 жыл бұрын
My Top 3 Magic villains: 1. Hassans Bro, the Tithe-taker 2. The Wizards of the Cost 3. Micro, the flowing Transaction
@thomasdick6797
@thomasdick6797 2 жыл бұрын
These are incredibly creative. Thanks for the chuckle 😃
@Hemlocker
@Hemlocker 2 жыл бұрын
Just by the names, I know that these creatures are 1. A boros treasure token generator 2. A mono blue counterspell-on-a-stick 3. A simic -value engine with no real wincon- mana dork
@_somerandomguyontheinternet_
@_somerandomguyontheinternet_ 2 жыл бұрын
Redeem Wizards, kill Hasbro, compleate microtransaction.
@chriswright8114
@chriswright8114 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hemlocker those are all fairly accurate, but the tithe-taker is spot on.
@Singe0255
@Singe0255 2 жыл бұрын
@@_somerandomguyontheinternet_ one down, two to go! I been completing micro transactions since day one!
@The5lacker
@The5lacker 2 жыл бұрын
I love when Spice8Rack writes the intro bits, he's got such a subtle touch.
@ILikePi31415926535
@ILikePi31415926535 2 жыл бұрын
I could tell as soon as Daretti was mentioned Spice had a hand in it That damn sexy goblin... Daretti''s pretty hot too I guess
@adamoberlitner1188
@adamoberlitner1188 2 жыл бұрын
APOLOGIST REVISIONIST damn it feels just like home (left twitter)
@alexanderficken9354
@alexanderficken9354 2 жыл бұрын
Baby needs money
@pleasantvegetable
@pleasantvegetable 2 жыл бұрын
That punchline at the end got me. Beautiful writing.
@kaemonbonet4931
@kaemonbonet4931 2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't call it subtle but it's certainly charming.
@NoxiousWhat
@NoxiousWhat 2 жыл бұрын
From what I was told, the reason they didn't plan for Commander on Arena was because WotC mostly thought Arena was a farce and a waste of time, before it was actually "finished" for a Beta release. There was no company-wide cohesive vision to make it a legitimate platform that catered to what people were playing at the time (= Commander), but rather it was intended to be a Standard-focused platform. Of course, anyone with five brain cells could've told them the idea of a Standard-focused platform was doomed to fail given the nature of rotation, unless the economy supported a platform focused on Standard, which of course it didn't. It was one of those projects they let people work on, but pinned absolutely none of their success on. I can only assume they would've made space for Commander in earlier stages of development if they had had any faith in Arena. They'll probably figure out some patchy workaround to let you "play with 4 other people", where it's really a 1v1 screen, but your opponent's avatar/board changes each turn to show a different opponent's board state, etc.
@TolarianCommunityCollege
@TolarianCommunityCollege 2 жыл бұрын
Wow
@david1913
@david1913 2 жыл бұрын
nailed it
@lambdalandis
@lambdalandis 2 жыл бұрын
And if there’s anything I learned from working at a software company, its that bad design choices in the beginning can be cripplingly hard to undo or work around once everything is dependent on them.
@brushwagg7735
@brushwagg7735 2 жыл бұрын
The biggest tip-off is that the common bugs are all rooted in memory leak issues that increasingly get patched over without being fixed over the lifespan of the game.
@atyrannosaurusrex
@atyrannosaurusrex Жыл бұрын
The big problem I think is that after the fiasco of Duels, they just expected MTG Arena to be just like Duels. I think this was Wizards trying to monetize MTG digitally using a games as a service model. They wanted to focus on standard first because they felt that the standard rotation would drive sales of booster packs. I think this is a big reason why they are so stingy with wildcards and dusting. They want you to spend $100 on booster packs. A standard focused platform was the experiment. If the platform died, no big deal. The execs making this decision don't appreciate how hard it is to build on a foundation of shaky spaghetti code and are probably thinking it isn't worth the investment now. They'd much rather release new sets.
@johncreekpaum4998
@johncreekpaum4998 2 жыл бұрын
The Budweiser commercial with the Iguana saying "Wazzup!" was actually the third evolution of the commercial. First were 3 frogs in a swamp croaking "Bud", "Weis", and "Er". Then, the "Weis" frog was missing so the frogs added an iguana that kept trying to spice up its line "Weis" by adding syllables and such, ending on "Wazzah!". Then the iguana started calling people and just yelling "Wazzaaaaaaaaaaaa" as the people on the phone also yelled "Wazzaaaaaaaa". It was a weird story arc.....
@Phantomwaxx
@Phantomwaxx 2 жыл бұрын
I'm still scratching my head that Brian..err, the Prof, sticks his nose up at Dogfish Head beer after the Sam Adams acquisition. Why?
@johncreekpaum4998
@johncreekpaum4998 2 жыл бұрын
@@Phantomwaxx I mean, it's probably being played up for laughs, but it's a hipster attitude of "I liked this thing until it became popular and corporated". Dogfish Head was one of the largest American breweries before merging with Boston Beer Company (Sam Adams) and the owners became the 2nd biggest non-corporate owners of Boston Beer Company.
@JStack
@JStack 2 жыл бұрын
American Carls Jr commercials now seem a lot less weird
@sadfrog2575
@sadfrog2575 2 жыл бұрын
@@JStack You mean Hardee's.
@User__Not__Found
@User__Not__Found 2 жыл бұрын
As a programmer, there's no reason WotC would struggle to separate Historic from Alchemy. Each card likely already has atrributes to tell them which set it comes from, there's no reason why they can't just make another attribute (if they haven't already) that says if a card is an Alchemy card. Separate the alchemy cards from Historic/Pioneer/Modern and make Alchemy versions of those. Keep Alchemy out of my games. I want my deck lists to work both in paper and if I transfer it over to digital.
@HailtotheKiin
@HailtotheKiin 2 жыл бұрын
Literally the functionality already exists! The card collection has a filter
@User__Not__Found
@User__Not__Found 2 жыл бұрын
@@HailtotheKiin Doesn't surprise me, I figured they'd already made the identifier when they came up with the idea. This only helps my point though, there's no reason they can't separate alchemy into its own thing and keep that garbage out of my game
@jasonfuqua4284
@jasonfuqua4284 2 жыл бұрын
Correct
@zztzgza
@zztzgza 2 жыл бұрын
Reasonable fixes to arena's economy? They had the economy stream, they had questions asking for reasonable fixes from the audience. The response was: sigh*...technology. The thing about a game's economy is that it has dials, switches, knobs, and sliders that can be changed, adjusted, added and/or removed to meet any criteria that wotc needs. Game engines, whether they're made in-house or licensed from another company are made with monetization systems so that games made using those engines can have any aspect of it easily monetized. That's a standard feature in game engines now. They can fix the economy, tomorrow, they don't want to.
@deleteman900
@deleteman900 2 жыл бұрын
The part that gets to me, bro? It's cool that they're expanding the ways you can purchase SNC packs on Arena (buying multiple packs at a time with gold, more options for how many to buy at once with gems, you can open multiple packs at a time instead of just one or ten) but... why isn't this a thing for other packs on Arena? Why are mythic packs a thing for NEO, but not any of the previous sets? They've gotten it working, obviously, just... why not roll that out across all the sets?
@alphadwuzzle1026
@alphadwuzzle1026 2 жыл бұрын
remember when going to a pre-release got you a code for a sealed/draft token? now you get 6 packs. also pre-release codes shouldn't be set at 1 per account. I already spent money going to the pre-release, why punish me for going to multiple?
@corpsefoot758
@corpsefoot758 2 жыл бұрын
@@deleteman900 Because they can make more money that way lol Always keep an eye on how often WotC “errs on the side of profitability”. If they’re literally doing so ALL the time, then it’s NOT an accident, and anybody unable (or unwilling) to recognize it is just a sucker for Hasbro’s bottom line
@corpsefoot758
@corpsefoot758 2 жыл бұрын
@@alphadwuzzle1026 “Why”? Because if they can squeeze a single extra penny out of your wallet, they will lol Duh
@KingBobXVI
@KingBobXVI 2 жыл бұрын
"Game engines, whether they're made in-house or licensed from another company are made with monetization systems so that games made using those engines can have any aspect of it easily monetized." Uh... no, not really. There are, say, plugins available to do payment processing and the like, but that's not the same as "made with monetization systems". Monetizing a game is going to be specific to the game, you can't just do a generic "monetization system" for every game because that's entirely dependent on the game's design. Like, no, Unity doesn't ship with a built-in hook to your Wizards account for payments, lol.
@jasonfuqua4284
@jasonfuqua4284 2 жыл бұрын
I fixed it by getting some friends together and playing paper commander with them, abandoning Arena.
@dcrow9650
@dcrow9650 2 жыл бұрын
I live really far from my friends and Arena is the only way for me to play Magic with a reasonable amount of time.
@Russian_engineer_bmstu
@Russian_engineer_bmstu 2 жыл бұрын
@@dcrow9650 what about untap cocktrice etc?
@dogdriver70
@dogdriver70 2 жыл бұрын
@@dcrow9650 mtgo is better
@syllycatface
@syllycatface 2 жыл бұрын
@@dogdriver70 my worry with MTGO is theres probably a tonne of cedh people that just go on with the goal of winning every single game, not playing fun battle cruiser games
@dogdriver70
@dogdriver70 2 жыл бұрын
@@syllycatface there are those people, just like in paper, but you can set your preference when you make the game. Tons of people like to play casual and high powered as opposed to competitive
@pistolpete7422
@pistolpete7422 2 жыл бұрын
How about this? : Put a “Rare Wildcard” token in the token or foil slot of packs in set/draft/collectors boosters. It has a code on the back for 1 rare wildcard to redeem on Arena. Put it at 10 - 25% to appear in a paper pack, more in collectors and less in draft boosters. This hits the paper-arena connection, relieves some burden of rare wildcards on arena for F2P players, and supports your players who want to spend time/money on both editions of the game. Plus you can even sell these like singles back to your LGS or trade to others if you’re a paper-only person
@Barracius
@Barracius 2 жыл бұрын
It would definitely need to be in the token slot (or maybe basic land slot). Putting it in the foil slot will mess up limited events through having some players end up with one fewer cards (even if it just ends up being instead of a common).
@PaulStavne
@PaulStavne 2 жыл бұрын
THIS!
@ruecianbeoulve7770
@ruecianbeoulve7770 2 жыл бұрын
I would rather have a bad common foil.
@CL0NK_
@CL0NK_ 2 жыл бұрын
Having worked in a few software companies as a dev, it's very possible that the teams behind arena just have poor leadership and direction. I've seen companies make decisions to stagnate the system because of it being more financially beneficial to do so and I've seen companies spend years to try and build their next platform and never make it. Poor decisions early on and poor direction and focus after that can lead to a lot of bloat and bad code which slows everything in future development down.
@Evaders99
@Evaders99 2 жыл бұрын
As much as development leads like Chris Clay got so much slack, they had a vision around Arena and technology they wanted to design. They all left and the leadership is more concerned about profit numbers over any kind of good user experience or a better card playing platform. Definitely seems like they've left development and validation to the cheapest interns they can hire.
@ddwkc
@ddwkc 2 жыл бұрын
For what I heard as my brother-in-law who knew people who worked with Arena, they skimp on the workforce whenever possible. Most of the grunt devs are shovelware level of skill (not that they are bad, just managed to make trash cashgrabs). When they say they gonna invest on the dev team is mostly name senior managers who are past their prime and a team of market people who are specialized in monetization. The rest are just shuffled around to meet workflow demands. It's not a surprise that they ignore most of the Arena problems. Devs who can aren't really allowed to fix them. Top seniors just don't understand or care why people complains about the economy. I remember at beginning of Arena during the open beta, devs promised Arena would be developed to have a good engine to add cards and they were more engaged with feedback from testers. Sadly this didn't last and they basically closed communication and put useless marketer mouthpieces in place instead.
@DaveMustaine333
@DaveMustaine333 2 жыл бұрын
For the chat function: Being able to make presets, that go through a filter, that you can replace the basic presets with. "Hello!" And "Nice!" work but the other presets are boring or unusable. Being able to say something like "That was awesome!" or something makes it feel more real.
@coreysierchio4650
@coreysierchio4650 2 жыл бұрын
Nice...Lol
@ChilleDINJerseY
@ChilleDINJerseY 2 жыл бұрын
wow great idea. Some additional specification to increase expression. I want a full chat; but this is way better than nothing.
@elitemaster666
@elitemaster666 2 жыл бұрын
Duels ended with Amonkhet indeed. Crazy thing is, Duels HAD multiplayer. It also had its own deck construction tied to rarity (1 mythic, 2 rare, 3 uncommon etc of each card per deck). Even after discontinuing it I would sometimes play with friends just to play 2v2. Honestly I played Duels a lot more than Arena overall.
@RaunienTheFirst
@RaunienTheFirst 2 жыл бұрын
It's a pity they won't sell Duels anymore. I've never played Duels 2012, and I would like to. Yes, I know, Yar-har, but like, it's not like they have to do anything. Just make it available on steam and enjoy the slow drip feed of income.
@BlueTemplar15
@BlueTemplar15 2 жыл бұрын
Remember how we paid real money for those cards only for them to shut down the Duels servers after giving up a paltry sum of Arena gold ?
@cdreid9999
@cdreid9999 Жыл бұрын
i understand the criticism of duels..but it was Fun. Arena is just tripling down on monetization by the most predatory corporation on the planet
@PeterNXavier
@PeterNXavier Жыл бұрын
Duels was great. I had a new player that had just started playing Magic and I was like. "You know there's these games call Duels of the Planeswalkers and it does such a great job on teaching you the more complex mechanics of the game and they are just great games overall. They don't make them anymore but you should be able to buy the old versions on Steam for probably really cheap". I go on steam and to my surprise (or not), they have been removed and you can't buy them ever. I was like WTF. I'm not going to push Arena on this guy so I didn't even mention it.
@patrickmchugh4616
@patrickmchugh4616 2 жыл бұрын
I had such low expectations of Arena and its laughably short list of features, that when I booted up Legends of Runeterra I was stunlocked. I starting playing when they just had a simple single player mode that went through a handful of enemies in the "Lab of Legends." Only a few short months later, suddenly this mode blossomed into a "Path of Champions" singleplayer option with vastly more starting Champion characters, more unlockable powers, expanded card pool, greater array of enemies with unique abilities...and the cherry on top is that it is a fun alternative to grinding the ladder that nevertheless showers me in resources to make competitive decks. Even more, the developers of Legends of Runeterra have said they want to do MORE with the single player mode, with expanded features and more overhauls. How sad is it that I am jumping for joy when developers actually care and provide amazing free content without kicking and screaming "Oh no, the technology isn't there" "Oh, you wouldn't want to destroy your precious collection that doesn't exist!" and other false explanations.
@AltroseSenar
@AltroseSenar 2 жыл бұрын
Before Arena came out I had played Eternal, Elder Scrolls Legends, and Shadowverse. It was astounding seeing how lacking Arena was compared to these games that were older. All had storymodes and were massively more generous. They all also encouraged players to stay and invest more too. Just astounding the difference.
@ddwkc
@ddwkc 2 жыл бұрын
@@AltroseSenar Indeed. Even cashcow Chinese knock offs that steal art have story mode and manage to be sometimes more generous than Arena and these games are scam. Even HS which lot of Arena defenders tend to bring up has a more level headed economy in comparison and more expansive content.
@JStack
@JStack 2 жыл бұрын
LoR has really fucked Arena for me. It becomes clear all the shitty UI and predatory economy choices are entirely avoidable
@a_guy_in_orange7230
@a_guy_in_orange7230 Жыл бұрын
This is 6mo old but wanted you to know this convinced me to give LOR a go
@patrickmchugh4616
@patrickmchugh4616 Жыл бұрын
@@a_guy_in_orange7230 Awesome to hear. The Path of Champions mode is the main way I enjoy LoR nowadays. The process to unlock new champions can be a little slow, but it gives the progression of the single-player something to work towards as you try different runs.
@QuantumMechanic343
@QuantumMechanic343 2 жыл бұрын
I liked the subtle product placement with the two deck boxes. I can’t wait to get mine next year!!
@pleasantvegetable
@pleasantvegetable 2 жыл бұрын
I just want to point out that the editing (especially visually) on this episode is *amazing,* especially for a podcast where you don't need to go above and beyond like that. Love the production quality on this channel.
@forgottonpast6847
@forgottonpast6847 2 жыл бұрын
If only one of this occurs I would love a story mode. They would be so much fun and make arena much more connected.
@mmelkilany
@mmelkilany 2 жыл бұрын
But but .... That doesn't make money 🙄
@tmbocheeko
@tmbocheeko 2 жыл бұрын
Explorer coming with the SNC update and Pioneer being officially on its way is maybe the best announcement they've made for Arena in a long time.
@matthewnewman6039
@matthewnewman6039 2 жыл бұрын
They have a lot of bad takes in this interview. Talking about how they will "alchemy" pioneer, when the announcement specifically says that's isn't happening.
@gyorgyor7765
@gyorgyor7765 2 жыл бұрын
@@matthewnewman6039 I suspect this video was shot before the announcement of Explorer (Pioneer Light), and was still being edited when the announcement came. Just one of life's little ironies
@theotherkevindubrow
@theotherkevindubrow 2 жыл бұрын
At 56:44, the Professor hits the nail on the head for my #1 thing I thought WotC could add - the ability for me, a player, to pay gold to set up a friend "table" of whatever I wanted... Draft, Cube, etc. Because if I can convince 5-7 people to join me for a draft that costs them nothing (cause I paid), maybe some of them stay in the client.
@waldllwyn139
@waldllwyn139 2 жыл бұрын
I dislike the massive push for alchemy, and whenever I'm building a new deck it's very annoying to see alchemy cards recommend even though I have the Standard filter set. Also whenever I get free alchemy cards from packs I've grinded out it annoys the hell out of me
@havenschade8174
@havenschade8174 2 жыл бұрын
I hate that you can use full alchemy cards in historic brawl and they give you the alchemy version of normal cards and wont let you use the normal ones
@ChilleDINJerseY
@ChilleDINJerseY 2 жыл бұрын
I really only draft on arena. On this past arena cube, there were these cards that were new to me (which isn't surprising), and as I continued playing, I would get more and more annoyed at the style of play these cards operated on. Eventually, I looked up the set and OF COURSE they were alchemy cards. Look, go ahead and experience wizards, but the alchemy cards stuck out like a sore thumb and were a really irritating form of gameplay for me.
@seraph_six
@seraph_six 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for correctly assigning Ugin as a villain through his accomplice, Sarkhan.
@treyconover4107
@treyconover4107 2 жыл бұрын
Also on that last bit, they added some random powerhouse (and dud) creatures onto the client to shake up the momir vig events including griselbrand, borborygmos, and Iona.
@ohnosmoarlulcatz
@ohnosmoarlulcatz 2 жыл бұрын
The biggest problem for me was that gold was tied to daily quests. I found myself building stupid decks that I didn't like playing just because I was trying to hit daily quest goals and I ended up spending a lot of time playing decks that I hated just to get enough gold to buy another booster pack.
@afrokid69
@afrokid69 2 жыл бұрын
in terms of redemption, i wish magic did what pokemon does, every pack has a redemption code that you can redeem online for the same pack, it encourages buying physical, that's great. that way physical and digital can coexist more easily.
@draftmagicagain1000
@draftmagicagain1000 2 жыл бұрын
But that would lower profits in the near term. Can't sell that to management.
@returningwhisper
@returningwhisper 2 жыл бұрын
Loving Magic is the closest experience I've had to being in an abusive relationship lol.
@Juzamdan55
@Juzamdan55 2 жыл бұрын
This is pure gold 😂
@sammin101
@sammin101 2 жыл бұрын
Yugioh Master Duel does have problems, but the 99.9% complete back catalogue is so nice! Also every time I play Arena now, i think about how Master Duel has a play history showing opponents’ decklists! The economy is way better there too, I’ve built over a dozen decks now! I can’t even imagine how long it would take to get wildcards for a dozen decks on arena
@B-Ran_the_Man
@B-Ran_the_Man 2 жыл бұрын
I play more Master Duel than Arena because Master Duel's economy is way better! They give you so many gems to start that, with a little research, you can build most of a top tier deck within a couple weeks of starting the game. Also, they have a great crafting system. Basically, you can create any card by dusting three cards of the same rarity! Could you imagine if Arena had that system??
@TemjinZero
@TemjinZero 2 жыл бұрын
I have only just started playing yugioh at all for the first time ever because of Master Duel's release. Before we even get to card catalog. Let's talk about POLISH. Master Duel's presentation and soundtrack are amazing! I can play seamlessly with my account on both my PC and my PHONE. Finally, when I did try Arena on my phone, that stupid App seems to have a horrendous memory leak. After playing like 30 minutes on mobile, the next match I play in Arena crashes during turn 1, making me rush to reconnect to try to complete the match, and then the game crashes a 2nd time when I do finish the re-logged game. Its even reproducible and I've had it happen to me three times before I just gave up trying Arena. Working client being on the list of 'missing features' is a massive problem.
@blahblahgdp
@blahblahgdp Жыл бұрын
Talking f2p wise a long long time
@the7569
@the7569 2 жыл бұрын
Let me just say, even during the time I took a break from playing magic (ixilan all the way to kamigawa) I still very often listened to this podcast. And it's not just because I wanted to stay up to date on Magic and that I genuinely enjoyed your guys's content, it's mostly that I absolutely adore the banter between you two. I would pay for a podcast that you guys do not even talking about Magic, I would love just like an hour and a half long thing unscripted of you guys just talking because you guys have such great comedic timing and such awesome banter with each other
@mythwind3024
@mythwind3024 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to have like in Shandalar (the super old PC game) a story mode that you fought vs. IA to gain cards. Back then the you could play with power 9 cards. It would be fun if in an "Adventure" environment you could get to use those cards.
@Lusk1993
@Lusk1993 2 жыл бұрын
Runeterra has this its fun
@BlueTemplar15
@BlueTemplar15 2 жыл бұрын
Forge already had a poor man's Shandalar, and has even been trying to add a "proper" one for some months now !
@RoryKenner
@RoryKenner 2 жыл бұрын
Whomever edited this episode: 👌 thank you. Hilarious.
@Sincerity-415
@Sincerity-415 2 жыл бұрын
You have to go to wizard's website to report people on arena, I've done it a few time back when people were nexus looping. Not really worth it because you can't find out if they've taken action on it.
@Aronia55
@Aronia55 2 жыл бұрын
You reported people for playing Nexus? :p
@Sincerity-415
@Sincerity-415 2 жыл бұрын
@@Aronia55 nexus of fate looping without advancing the game state.
@williamchan420
@williamchan420 2 жыл бұрын
Telling Time and Time Stop were some of the very first Magic artworks that really drew me into the game. I passed by an oversized poster displayed outside of a card shop and have been hooked as a blue main player ever since
@theguywiththetail
@theguywiththetail 2 жыл бұрын
Love it, all fantastic points. I really hope you include outtakes in the future as well!
@XJBG1001X
@XJBG1001X 2 жыл бұрын
The opening bits will always make me smile. Thank you very much!!!
@Orkinetxegar
@Orkinetxegar 2 жыл бұрын
Prof defending Daretti sounds alot like Spice8rack. Also he is right.
@stevenjog9290
@stevenjog9290 2 жыл бұрын
Love the idea behind arena but economy make it really uneasy to get into. I wish they just made it more accessible to everyone and tried to make most of their money through cosmetics and gems for special events.
@nicoperez8307
@nicoperez8307 2 жыл бұрын
I agree 100%
@bodaciouschad
@bodaciouschad 2 жыл бұрын
I think thats unfair. If you enjoy standard brawl, than its actually very easy to get into- you just don't get to pick your deck, don't get any good cards and have to concede whenever you go second and play aggro to stand a chance of winning enough games to eventually earn the gold from quests to build ONE decent brawl deck, and if you modify that one deck through a year of rotations, you'll have saved up enough to craft the other 40 rares and mythics you'd need to play that deck in historic with a 15% winrate.
@dcrow9650
@dcrow9650 2 жыл бұрын
I play for free and after like 6 month, I had a reasonable amount of good cards. My favorite format is Brawl, but I could play Standard but I hate it.
@corpsefoot758
@corpsefoot758 2 жыл бұрын
@@dcrow9650 MTG Arena has the worst F2P economy of any AAA online CCG. Sorry pal
@ToastbackWhale
@ToastbackWhale 2 жыл бұрын
@@corpsefoot758 I see somebody didn’t play YGO Duel Links. I’ve not spent a penny on Arena and still enjoy playing it. Duel Links basically says “ok, if you don’t want to pay, enjoy taking 8 months to make the deck you want.” Ask me how I know that.
@bryceduyvewaardt8136
@bryceduyvewaardt8136 2 жыл бұрын
51:58 sounds like a series of games to play between story beats in the style of Yugioh that works -I like it!
@nathanielreichley4640
@nathanielreichley4640 2 жыл бұрын
I had a bad day and this cheered me up (even though I haven't played arena in 6 months and don't intend to go back). Thanks you guys! Hope you're well.
@phillipmeade7640
@phillipmeade7640 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't even watched the video but these intros are getting better and better every episode. This was so funny. It literally made me laugh out loud and look around to make sure no one was staring at me.
@mikespoerl2558
@mikespoerl2558 2 жыл бұрын
please keep doing stuff together...i always look foward to these!!!!
@chancylvania
@chancylvania 2 жыл бұрын
The editing on these are absolutely stupendous
@moretimeproductions
@moretimeproductions 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for beeing the spokesmen you guys are!
@MrBoogerblood
@MrBoogerblood 2 жыл бұрын
My LGS is running a sealed league from May through November. That solves my arena woes. Hopefully enough people join to keep it going.
@rohezalvomambo1208
@rohezalvomambo1208 2 жыл бұрын
Entertaining and educating as always. Thank you very much.
@josephpropati5690
@josephpropati5690 Жыл бұрын
I wanna see so many more videos of you guys together. These are hilarious, and I love them.
@spartanlink_047
@spartanlink_047 2 жыл бұрын
That intro was absolutely fantastic, actually watched twice.
@kbowie123
@kbowie123 2 жыл бұрын
The beer rant side chant was legendary. Thanks gents!
@cipherdust2285
@cipherdust2285 2 жыл бұрын
That Lighting, Nice work looks great.
@ryanmalinowski7529
@ryanmalinowski7529 2 жыл бұрын
Editor is on point! Keep up the great work!
@4444lowbrow
@4444lowbrow 2 жыл бұрын
I love most of your content Prof, though I am admittedly not a big fan on Dies to Removal. That said, I loved this installment. Keep up the great work, keep on keeping it real, much love.
@TheCaptainCruise
@TheCaptainCruise 2 жыл бұрын
Dogfish Head makes some of the most amazing beers - take the summer one with sea salt and lime... sounds awful, until you taste it sitting outside a Dogfish Head place during summer!
@s.c.9681
@s.c.9681 2 жыл бұрын
Man, you have been on fire with the humor these past couple of weeks! 🤣
@poketech7192
@poketech7192 Жыл бұрын
can we all take a second to appreciate those amazing socks the professors wearing.
@DisregardedHappiness
@DisregardedHappiness 2 жыл бұрын
I legitimately forget im watching a podcast episode when im watching the opening until the theme song comes on. They're that good
@BradyRay_333
@BradyRay_333 2 жыл бұрын
It's a good time listening to you two.
@YetiRawr
@YetiRawr 2 жыл бұрын
The editing of this is just awesome.
@kylefolmsbee3922
@kylefolmsbee3922 2 жыл бұрын
That beer discussion had me cracking up lol
@LithmusEarth
@LithmusEarth 2 жыл бұрын
List of things we need but will never ever get: A list of every book on your bookshelf. That Broodwar Comment, Exactly, same here. In his little thing, and in the sideline of this video: Line Goes Up is still being recommended to me, I watched it when it first came out because I'm subscribed to folding ideas, and it's a dope ass channel ran my Dan Olsen, and I've watched it since then because I felt I needed to. It's EVERYWHERE.
@ssmmeeaarrggllee
@ssmmeeaarrggllee 2 жыл бұрын
that intro was amazing, whoever wrote it real props
@Kevin-hz1rl
@Kevin-hz1rl 2 жыл бұрын
This was my favorite episode of Dies to Removal
@2starkiller
@2starkiller 2 жыл бұрын
That intro was brilliant!
@kevinblazeii
@kevinblazeii 2 жыл бұрын
Grade A opening skit! And all around greatness as usual
@eliasschwartz7905
@eliasschwartz7905 2 жыл бұрын
Can you please reprint the reading the card explains the card play mat? I am fairly new to magic don't have a play mat yet, so I'm excited to pick one up.
@needmetal
@needmetal 2 жыл бұрын
Best part of this was finding out the professor is a beer nerd! Cheers Professor!
@Phantomwaxx
@Phantomwaxx 2 жыл бұрын
Brian said "Beer snob" which is 100% worse than a Beer Nerd, IMO. Any kind of snob is bad; nerds are curious. Not drinking a beer you like because another (technically still) microbrewery did an acquisition is odd and petty.
@haileydee9954
@haileydee9954 2 жыл бұрын
I always loved the books and the tiny articles are no replacement for a paper book in my hands.
@XCrocer
@XCrocer 2 жыл бұрын
Love the podcast! Keep it up! :)
@JimFaindel
@JimFaindel 2 жыл бұрын
I live to see the openings of Dies to removal videos.
@del132
@del132 2 жыл бұрын
Who is editing these god damn things?! I love them. I love them hard.
@geraudbroussaud894
@geraudbroussaud894 2 жыл бұрын
I love that you want to bring back Shandalar on Arena ! :) (that's the ply in a story with a map environment part) seriously ! I'd love to play that
@kemmakolstrup2700
@kemmakolstrup2700 2 жыл бұрын
Shattered Angel's art is so pointedly haunting. I love it.
@JStack
@JStack 2 жыл бұрын
The board state puzzles on Duels of The Planeswalkers (I think that was the one on Xbox arcade back in the day) literally got me into like second level thought for magic. I also have friends who don’t play mtg anymore but we talk about how fun 2HG and Those board state puzzles were. Single player mode sorely needed
@CCTRunner
@CCTRunner 2 жыл бұрын
Great content! Thank you!
@akindlyorc
@akindlyorc 2 жыл бұрын
Great MTG podcast! Convinced me to play YGO instead 👍
@johannesgutenburg9837
@johannesgutenburg9837 2 жыл бұрын
the editing keeps getting better and better
@paperfart3988
@paperfart3988 2 жыл бұрын
That into section was such gold
@BrainSlug91
@BrainSlug91 2 жыл бұрын
lol @ Line Goes Up in the recommended videos, its been been a resident there for the past 2 months for me also.
@ScottAtkins49
@ScottAtkins49 2 жыл бұрын
Dies to Removal -> Favorite podcast!
@ClexYoshi
@ClexYoshi 2 жыл бұрын
the Whazzap commercials became so synonymous in pop culture that one of the great tag teams during the 90;s, the Dudley Boyz started doing a part in their routine where they'd go to the top rope, parody the Whazzap commercials and then do duo diving headbutt to the opponent's groin while the other held the opponent's legs open.
@rafaelvarela1024
@rafaelvarela1024 2 жыл бұрын
On the topic of story mode in Arena: the story-based PvE mode in Duels was really cool. There was one where you played as Jace against Alhammarret and you could only win through milling, and another where you played as Liliana in a 1v4 against her demons. Adding that to Arena would be so sick.
@AcePianoNoises
@AcePianoNoises 2 жыл бұрын
as far as the "wazzaaaap" all I can think of is the scene from Scary Movie
@PartisanGamerDE
@PartisanGamerDE 2 жыл бұрын
Lets face it. You all give WotC and Hasbro way too much credit. They wont "fix" anything ... for them Arena, its economy and everything that is wrong with it (from a consumer perspective) works "EXACTLY as intended". They are greedy soulless megacorps that care not for the game we love but only for shorterm profits and shareholders. To them its just a product like any other, and they treat it as such.
@TheEmeraldboy100
@TheEmeraldboy100 2 жыл бұрын
You sound like one of those magic doomers screaming Magic is dying since 1997
@M2Brad
@M2Brad 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheEmeraldboy100 That's an exaggeration.
@corpsefoot758
@corpsefoot758 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheEmeraldboy100 They literally walked back their precious Alchemy major marketing push with this new “Explorer” circus LMAO Not to mention finally adding Gold prices for packs, showing the Vault progress like we told those worms to do years ago etc. etc. Are you smelling toast? Wake up you joke, WotC’s finally starting to see the numbers slide and it ain’t pretty
@AverageSneedEnjoyer
@AverageSneedEnjoyer 2 жыл бұрын
I think they're messing up from a business angle too. Arena has a horrendous reputation that scares away new players, if a Hearthstone player has heard of Arena they probably know it's predatory. A fairer system that invites more players can generate more revenue overall, but they're fixated exclusively on milking whales
@PartisanGamerDE
@PartisanGamerDE 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheEmeraldboy100 by pointing out that their business model for their digital client is horrendous and it is so by design ? Have you seen the world we live in? This aint 1997 anymore. Corporations dont give a single flying f**k anymore about reputation or a good relationship to their costumer base. I am not saying the whole game is dying ... but to not see that Arena has massive problems is being willfully ignorant.
@jordanstone3630
@jordanstone3630 2 жыл бұрын
Great episode!
@Dalenthas
@Dalenthas 2 жыл бұрын
Vince, don't worry, you're not crazy, we had those adverts here too.
@jacobb5564
@jacobb5564 2 жыл бұрын
I love the professors shirt and tie.
@gamefreak3072
@gamefreak3072 2 жыл бұрын
I love the editing. the mummy milk bit made me laugh
@balukawaiirenekton7537
@balukawaiirenekton7537 2 жыл бұрын
How to fix Arena : do half the things Runeterra had done and that will be 700 times better, so everything Runeterra has done and that makes it perfect.
@kylescott2290
@kylescott2290 2 жыл бұрын
Loved the editing.
@howardoh4388
@howardoh4388 2 жыл бұрын
The skit at the beginning is always a great laugh
@quin2203
@quin2203 2 жыл бұрын
editing genius. This had me rolling.
@jostme12
@jostme12 2 жыл бұрын
I would love 2HG, being able to play with a friend is so much fun.
@aceundead4750
@aceundead4750 2 жыл бұрын
Here in America we got the Budweiser Clydesdales as commercials. Iv heard from other British people on the internet about the iguana commercial, but never seen it personally.
@Pistolsatsean
@Pistolsatsean 2 жыл бұрын
The pet I want is Vince running over Urza in his blue ford Mondeo
@greenirez2798
@greenirez2798 2 жыл бұрын
3 minutes in and already my morning is going great. Thanks video
@TolarianCommunityCollege
@TolarianCommunityCollege 2 жыл бұрын
Great to hear!
@VeilsShack
@VeilsShack 2 жыл бұрын
I gotta say, these have always been entertaining content wise, but god damn the editing takes it to a new level. Cheers to whoever fucking does it, making my mf day
@edac_plays6259
@edac_plays6259 2 жыл бұрын
Duels is what got me into magic and I cannot express how sad I was when I completed the story and there was never any additions or more stories to play through.
@daniloleitedalmon
@daniloleitedalmon 2 жыл бұрын
I love the idea of a story mode!
@TherapyForNarhwals
@TherapyForNarhwals 2 жыл бұрын
22:10 to 24:00 proves I’ll listen to Vince and Prof talk about literally anything just cause it’s entertaining.
@lawrencelamontagne328
@lawrencelamontagne328 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you from the community
@mattybbg6850
@mattybbg6850 2 жыл бұрын
@0:25 bloody hell, Vince has exiled himself again.
@ShotensGaming
@ShotensGaming 2 жыл бұрын
I had an Igew-wana as a kid prof. Cool creatures.
@smashbuddie
@smashbuddie 2 жыл бұрын
I am loving the meme editing on these!
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