“It’s Time to Grow Up” - Rich Eisen on Kyler Murray’s Embarrassing ‘Film Study’ Contract Clause

[@player24361]

Cardinals: "No! Kyler, playing Madden is not the same as watching the tape"

[@takashiross8553]

Kyler: "But we're playing the Seahawks this week." All credit for this joke goes to @tomgrossicomedy

[@will3pr]

@@takashiross8553 Cardinals: “Oh ok nvm then enjoy your game!” 😂

[@Cookiesrfood]

"Young man don't make us take your phone and video games away again! study Kyler study!!"

[@jbo6096]

Madden should immediately drop his ratimgs til they get confirmation he been doing his homework

[@gallopingLake6]

"But I can make myself taller!"

[@gennehring1]

This should be called the Jamarcus Russel clause.

[@jbo6096]

Mike Vick didn't study in ATL. But he's Mike Vick 🤣

[@MoLiEG89]

That's exactly what I thought.

[@tman2834]

Facts💯💯💯

[@t.k.1319]

The only rebound for this is if Kyler creates a KZbin show: “Independent Study with Kyler Murray” where he breaks down film.

[@thedarkemissary]

Wouldn't count. He's distracted making videos. Which means he'd have to double up.

[@tvtda1]

bro dm him this. tell him to like Patreon or Twitch steam it. Bucku money lol

[@jeffg1524]

Lol, T.K. I can see it now. The intro would go like this (calliope music) "Now Boys and Girls, time for your favorite pampered football star to teach you the complex ins-and-outs of that magnificent game called Football!...Your Menace of Mental Tennis, the Master of the Oscillating Telestrator, that Gridiron Guru of Advanced Learning...Kyler Murray!!!" (applause machine lights up).

[@itoo3654]

I LOVE folks who think about good PR spin/angles. Bravo.

[@austinschweitzer7382]

I’d watch it

[@cusefan5510]

Phillip rivers literally had a mobile film room built in the back of the van he was driven to the facility in. Crazy that this had to be put in a contract for an NFL QB

[@geoffscimone9102]

Cuse Fan, thx for the info, never knew that, RIvers IS a hof er now, has my vote

[@andrewmartin7697]

Pathetic is a better word for it than crazy

[@r8td]

Did all that and still never won an MVP, never a 1st team All-Pro, never won a ring lmfao

[@stevenrandall8300]

@@r8td so how do u expect kyler to win a ring if other qb's spend stupid hours perfecting their craft and he just wings it?

[@cemedia4195]

@@r8td 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Cookiesrfood]

The fact that the Cards have to force Kyler to study for a measly 4 hr's a week which isn't even 1 hr a day lol should tell you that Kyler does zero film study and is kind of lazy. Also the fact that the Cards gave their lazy QB a huge contract is also crazy lol

[@attache675]

Better off if they tanked this year and went for a QB next year.

[@lancesilvis4085]

they really should have traded him for some picks. Grabbed up somebody like Mayfield, Ryan, or hell even Nick Foles for a season, and then drafted a new stud qb next year. Really dumb move by them, paying a player that much who clearly is not interested in going the extra mile for the team (as a leader, that’s pathetic to me)

[@larrythompson2896]

Channeling the Browns in QB selection

[@rmm3803]

You're actually giving the dude props. Imagine taking a previously 3-13 team to the playoffs the following year once you join, with "zero" study. Not a fan but if he buckles down as he matures I imagine his limit will be pretty high.

[@krakhedd]

@@larrythompson2896 not quite that bad but I am not saying you're wrong, either

[@sheikantoniovonpeanutbutte9667]

It’s like being in a band - you don’t learn your parts at rehearsal- you learn your parts at home and when you’ve got it nailed down- then you’re ready for practice

[@anthonygarcia2457]

Like the great Prince said, “we don’t practice, you practice at home…we rehearse”

[@daveg4236]

@@anthonygarcia2457 and every musician prior to prince

[@J_ONeal]

Listen to an interview of any all-time great…Ray Lewis, Deion Sanders, any of them. They all talk about how much film they studied. That’s the difference between talent and all-time greatness.

[@coloradoterroir8736]

Well this really explains why defenses seem to have Kyler's number after about six games.

[@coryhellerer3425]

Well said. So true

[@bobmelvin4184]

Defenses have the Cardinals offense figured out after six games. It’s Kingsbury’s responsibility to make adjustments to counter that but he doesn’t seem to have a clue. Kliff is the one who should study more game film, not Kyler

[@daniellejohnson1737]

Its the story of Kingsbury's career. Hot start with 30 something plays that people figure out.

[@ghdh166.]

That’s why he has to run sideline to sideline to find someone open

[@redpillfreedom6692]

@@bobmelvin4184 Maybe. But the coach's job is also made more difficult if the QB is only putting in the bare minimum of preparation.

[@toddtaylor6506]

The fact this is in the contract tells us the Cards know this guy does the bare minimum preparation for games if he's not at the facility being forced to do so by the team.

[@bradleymiller7375]

Means he's not committed!

[@nbaovernfl918]

Means he’s still the best qb Arizona has had in years an still a top 15 qb in the world 🤣 cards better be grateful they could have Daniel jones

[@brbadge]

@@nbaovernfl918 see: Peyton Manning.

[@nbaovernfl918]

@@brbadge remember the good days of Sam Bradford, Matt lienart, Carson Palmer, drew staton. Colt McCoy 🤔 bet those guys studied 🤣🤣 how many rings they got 🤣🤣🤣 Cardinals acting brand new soon as they get one decent qb 🤣🤣🤣

[@tvtda1]

​@Skip Baseless Michael Vick didnt study either, this is per Michael Vick, interviewed by his own previous coach. That's what were dealing with here. Were dealing with that type of franchising changing Talent. people really need to get pass this idea that everyone works hard the same way. i say this as someone with ADHD, who i'm not less intelligent or productive than anyone else. i just process and operate differently and at a different pace and style than people are normally accustomed to, no one in the media really well equipped to critique this issue, because their starving for some kind of story here. The reality is, if kyler was to work in a different process and method than how he prefers and is comfortable working. You wouldn't get Kyler Being Kyler, you'd risk getting something worse. By disturbing his functioning process. Jordan needed to gamble, everyone needed something to get away from the game. Kyler needs that too, Kyler has his own things for it. one method might be studying less. its not hard to understand.

[@Windupchronic]

Basically, Kyler wasn't doing his homework and the teacher's calling him out in front of not just the entire school, but the entire town.

[@krakhedd]

What does it say that the Headmaster had a choice to invite a more-aligned player in?

[@larryjonnson8093]

Lmfao, yeah, but he received 105mil when he signed this contract! Think about that for minute, 105mil (and did not do his homework)! Who's winning! Him or the Owner? 105mil! Lol, if I was him, I would go down with a *"Fake Back"* injury and collect the 160mil that's guaranteed if he gets injured! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@agoo7581]

We actually don't know that. Contracts usually have these weird disclaimers (without merit) in order to create potential scapegoats down the line. You and all of the other moron fans just take it at face value.

[@jfolive3742]

Whenever the Card's lose, one reportor will ask Murray, "did you not study for the game?" 😅

[@Giveme1goodreason]

You can’t tell me line backers won’t be introducing themselves to him “hey Kyler I know you ain’t seen or heard of me before but I’m Von Miller”

[@justin103190]

He should get a progress report and a report card too lol

[@itoo3654]

He is going to BLOW UP, In his presser.

[@ForsakenWar]

😅👍

[@janso7979]

@@Giveme1goodreason After that playoff game, I'm pretty sure Murray knows who Von Miller is.

[@burprobrox9134]

IT guy here... they’ll monitor the active applications, use face recognition for who logged in, and then it will take an occasional picture to make sure it’s him and he’s facing the screen. All of this can be automated so it’s not like someone is sitting there watching him. Every major company has the same capabilities, but the NFL has the contracts to allow it to be enforced without a legal kerfuffle

[@ML-xh6rd]

Let's hope they actually do it and hold him accountable. Young folks are resourceful and he seems like the type who would look for a way to try and get away with something.

[@itoo3654]

They already DID, that's WHY they put it in the contract, or he's in DEFAULT. The Cards have an OUT.

[@Bdot1588]

Rich was just hammering the table last week to offer him the contract lol and everyone else in the studio said don’t do it

[@krakhedd]

People aren't exactly well-selected for self-awareness

[@goobiebutter8014]

You can admit he deserves money from what you see and then gain information after the fact that makes you do a double take.

[@varsitycamplife]

And he didn’t retract his statement, but this reaction is in the light of new, outrageous, information.

[@Bdot1588]

@@varsitycamplife he should have retracted

[@Matt-cr4vv]

Even with this I can see why they signed him. He has performed well, and turned them around, and they don’t want to have to admit failure yet again. But it just shows they’ll not be a championship team if they have to hold what should be the team leaders hand just to do the bare minimum.

[@byronservies4043]

Four (4) whole hours per week. Hire a driver and he can do it in the car to/from the facility easy. Unbelievable they set the bar so low.

[@Cookiesrfood]

Exactly 4 hours per week is basically nothing. All he has to do is study for 35 minutes a day and he reaches the time requirement lol

[@philthornton1382]

You can’t study properly jn a vehicle, the cardinals will have some sort of monitoring in place to make sure he does it properly If he’s lazy and dodges it they should void his deal

[@FuzzyStayBuzzin183]

Honestly to me he comes off as a spoiled brat that always gets his way Now he's going to have this big contract looming over his head and he won't live up to it.

[@Jrbirddogg]

Its why I didn't want My eagles to trade for him. I don't trust him

[@Leroyscaand]

He’s a baseball guy. He’s not about the team

[@Kainteeka]

And he got his way - again. Should have called his bluff and made him play another year and prove it. Worse case scenario he sits out and proves he's not the guy and you don't sink the franchise. Instead......might battle the seahawks for 4th for years to come.

[@alexanderkomara4049]

Lol kyler is going to ball. Go get rosen if you want hahsh

[@jbo6096]

@@alexanderkomara4049 y'all going to start 1-5. See schedule? No dhop. See how often y'all start bad and finish the sand way again down stretch

[@georgewashington1106]

Between the Cliff and Kyler contracts, the Cardinals have guaranteed they'll be largely irrelevant in the playoffs through 2027, and probably 2028

[@b-rad3681]

Yep they are screwed big time !!

[@frenchtoastmaffia]

This exonerates kliff. You can't expect him to succeed as a coach when the guy running his system isn't willing to maximize his ability within it

[@patrickpeterson3136]

Exactly.

[@ML-xh6rd]

@@frenchtoastmaffia -- Kliff Kingsbury is the reason the Cardinals are in this whole situation with KM. Kliff wanted someone he knew he could jibe with because he knew his coaching skills were lacking and he wouldn't be able to manage a truly talented, confident and smart QB and he convinced management to go with Kyler. And look where that's got us, absolutely no where. Neither one of them is going to make it five years with the Cards. So many things have to go right for them but there's potential for so many things to go way wrong. It's too bad as there are some great guys in other positions but with a few pieces missing it's almost impossible to put a playoff winning season together.

[@brendanforster2579]

@@ML-xh6rd hey now! You can always say you’re the best in September and October! Such a stupid contract, if you have to tell someone to study tape you shouldn’t give them that money 😂

[@lhfirex]

Meanwhile, Joe Burrow's future contract is going to talk about giving him top quality victory cigars.

[@Ruffceyx530]

This needs to be in his contract. Nothing but the finest of Handrolled Cubans.

[@isaiahboffill5692]

Joe Money Burrow pretty soon

[@hakeemsd70m]

Burrow will be in the MVP conversation very soon, almost time.

[@DurkDiggler]

@@hakeemsd70m dude has one lucky playoff run and people think he’s an mvp lmao

[@Obiamajoyisrmd]

@@DurkDiggler no, idiot. He had great numbers and nothing was necessarily “lucky” in comparison to whatever “luck” any other team had. He played like a top true QB. You’re comment is passive aggressive. Channel that feminine energy into something else.

[@dianej1714]

The Cardinals may have paid Murray the money he wanted, but they embarrassed him forever. Peyton Manning still studies film, and he's retired.

[@wilcee238]

You think he cares?

[@b-rad3681]

@@wilcee238 I’m sure he will care when he’s questioned by reporters nonstop after practices everyday and after games about his study habits and preparation week by week during the season . And God forbid he has more bad games then good games , people will point to his poor preparation . The Cardinals fucked Kyler Murray over big time!

[@cookiegoodies5547]

@@b-rad3681 Kyler fucked Kyler over

[@Mach11976]

He's a baseball player at heart. And in the meantime Justin Fields is studying between 4 and 6 hours a night. And I'm sure the rest are too. Cards are a joke..

[@Mach11976]

@Jamie Galvan yeah probably! Lol

[@markdraine3571]

You're right , Brian .I'm a Cards fan but the whole thing is asinine...How can you give over 200m to a 5'9" diva that won't take a hit and doesn't care about leadership skills ? This thing implodes, I'm willing to bet , in 2-3 years. .Kingsbury, GM Steve Keim will be long gone. Kyler will be backing up Drew Lock in Seattle.

[@viralencore85]

No, Jaguars are a joke.

[@Mach11976]

@@markdraine3571 You know I see that, but I bet he's playing triple A ball in Texas. 2-3 years

[@Electro21964]

Justin Fields deserves a better team.

[@marxman6896]

What a humiliating revelation about Kyler. I didn't have much respect for him before this. Now I have zero respect for him. He's a child, physically and mentally. I cannot believe you'd give this much money to a guy with maturity issues this severe. What a joke. You had to pay the guy because he is talented and he is your best option currently, but to give him this much money... Jesus, Cardinals. This is why your franchise is a joke.

[@rubenherrera6559]

This is why they move above joke level 😂

[@USALeonHeart]

If Kyler is such a child, that speaks volumes about how far below him the Cardinals are as an organization that he can arrive and without even trying make them the best they've been in 15 years.

[@danfinn1832]

@@USALeonHeart You realize they made a Super Bowl less than 15 years ago and a NFC championship game in 2016

[@BK-uy9nj]

Who hurt you?

[@BK-uy9nj]

@@danfinn1832 we were 3-13 the season before we got kyler and he took us to the playoffs without dhop and rodney hudson 😂

[@Macfierce1]

Never in a million years would I have signed him. I'd have taken the media heat and let him hold his pouty rear end out. Straight up. This won't end well he's not a committed, serious pro. He's not a leader. He's small. He's cocky. This kid doesn't get it. What were the Cardinals thinking????

[@ML-xh6rd]

Desperate people make poor decision. The Cards are so desperate to win and they are under the false impression that the Kingsbury-Murrary partnership is the way to accomplish that. It's going to be an ugly season for the Cards and fans need to be prepared for that.

[@lancesilvis4085]

he has decades worth of maturing to do before he will be respected across the league at the same level as other starting quarterbacks even. If I was in the cardinals shoes I would never have paid him knowing that info. No one in the league respects kyler. he’s clearly delusional to the point where he says “im built different, i don’t have to DO the bare minimum that every other player has to do every week across the league. Im too good for that.” sheesh!!

[@samwilkinson9906]

Whereas you were a committed, serious pro during your stint in the league. And big too. And humble.

[@takashiross8553]

Cardinals: So remember how you decided to start your contract negotiation by taking down all our photos from Instagram? Well, you'll get your money but we've got a contract to deal with that kind of behavior.

[@xkmmx2132]

This is the most Cardinals move of all time. Having lived in Az my entire life and not being a Cardinals fan has provided me with so much to laugh at 🤣🤣🤣 But this off-season for them may have been the funniest. They just paid a coach and a QB insane money respectively and neither of them have any clue how to put in a full season.

[@nbaovernfl918]

While also living in az an not a cards fan they should be lucky he signed that ish he’s by far the best qb has had since Warner 🤣🤣 an not much talent comes to Arizona.. better be kissing that man’s feet 🤣

[@MrSpeed-lt8gr]

@@nbaovernfl918 people around here seem to forget Matt Leinart, Joe Bugel and Bill Bidwell, who wouldn’t even provide his team with socks according to Vai Sikahema.

[@nbaovernfl918]

@@MrSpeed-lt8gr facts cards r the cheapest team in the nfl an only have paid Larry fitz big money in the history of the team 🤦‍♂️ I could never been a fan of them 🤣

[@FilonisHat]

I’m convinced Steve Kevin is Ryan Grigson 2.0. A meathead way in over his head who hired a hack coach to mentor a vertically challenged QB.

[@zunze28]

@@nbaovernfl918 Yeah they are so cheap. Paid budda baker the highest contract for a safety. Chandler jones was once highest paid DE. Signed hopkins couple years ago to highest contact for a WR and now pay kyler second biggest Qb contract. So cheapp its disgusting

[@julianwahly3372]

He's a spoiled brat. For the Cardinals having to do this shows how spoiled and immature he is. To be legendary you have to go that extra mile. That is what separates the great ones from those who are talented, but that is as far as it goes.

[@marksulzman1551]

Or even to be (given his established talent) really good, good enough for a deep post season run, possible SB to be at least reasonably responsible aka do your job, it's not a right but a privilege to be paid well to play a game. Perhaps Brady / Brees crazy obsessive focus not necessarily needed for satisfactory success. Greatness / Perfection not reasonable to expect. So yeah, agree with comment.

[@alexanderryan1176]

The more money these guys make, the more petulant and entitled they become. He'll never win anything.

[@nozrep]

so it seems!

[@JP-je6jg]

Agreed. If this is what they think of him, they shouldn't have touched him with a barge pole. That social media essay for me would be a huge red flag.

[@alexanderkomara4049]

Lol sound like a hater

[@raggedyrob]

I’m with it cuz that’s how white guys behave who make way less money than he does

[@beatsNstrings]

nah its beyond that. you swear brady doesnt live in absolute luxury and still walk out and outcompete a hungry younger player

[@TheJaker5]

😂🤣 I love this SO much! I can only imagine how embarrassed and butt hurt Kyler is about this getting out.

[@ML-xh6rd]

You think he cares? This dude doesn't seem to care one bit about how people perceive him. He does his own thing, seems to play by his own rules and just does what he wants without caring about how it makes him look.

[@freeffree4133]

@@ML-xh6rd Nah, he DEFINITELY cares lol.

[@BK-uy9nj]

Kyler will be crying and wiping his tears with hundred dollar bills bro 😂 he’ll forever be $230 million richer than youu

[@VivisDoomsday]

But then you realize you've had more embarrassing moments in your life and at least Kyler gets paid 230m in return.

[@larryjonnson8093]

Lmfao, but hurt, but he received 105mil when he signed this contract! Think about that for minute, 105mil (and did not do his homework)! Who's winning! Him or the Owner? 105mil! Lol, if I was him, I would go down with a *"Fake Back"* injury and collect the 160mil that's guaranteed if he gets injured! Lmfao, now that would leave a really bad taste in you *"Racist Bastards"* mouth!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@krakhedd]

The two most embarrassing contracts in the NFL are both QBs. Insane! I've never been so glad to be from a small market! God bless Josh Allen for being worth 5x more than Kyler but entrenched and happy here in Buffalo

[@Ristofec]

Same with me being a Bengals fan. For a long time I was cursing the fact that we were small market, but now I’m so glad we aren’t a part of this diva market

[@thunderpantz]

Josh had to work harder to get to the same place Kyler is.

[@themonologuer]

Never in the history of the NFL have I heard of a situation EXACTLY like this

[@Ynkno]

Randall cunningham

[@divine3187]

Never

[@xXTopGXx]

Jamarcus Russel

[@OneWey2Go]

Why is everyone outraged? I remember when his coach was advocating for phone breaks because the players couldn't get through an hour meeting. What the hell did anyone think this was going to lead to?

[@vicarious4231]

Shannon sharpe said that if a team gives you an iPad for film study, they can tell if you just hit play, or if you actually rewind it and watched a play(s) a dozen times.

[@RavenTD46]

Meanwhile Lamar Jackson has been throwing to rookie WR's the last 3 days before training camp.

[@melissah8415]

By this time, no coach would be able to instill the work ethic needed to be the top QB and win playoff games into this guy. He is what he is and is unwilling to change. The lack of his work sure showed in the 2021 playoffs. Jeez, he looked like a college QB. He just wants to play football, show off, then go have fun until the next game. Just imagine what he could do if he put in the work like Josh Allen or put in the work with a receiver like Matt Stafford and Cooper Kupp. Natural physical talent and luck will only take you so far. This is what you are going to get when you pay a 21 or 22 year old millions before they've done one damn thing as a professional. We will see more and more of this if Murry isn't led up as an example of how NOT to behave as an NFL QB.

[@encinobalboa]

Correct. In the second half of the season, teams figured out Kyler and how to stop him. Kyler did not do his homework so he did not change his game. Then Kyler faced McVey and the Rams in the playoffs. Coach NcVey studies film day and night and looks at every angle to gain an advantage. Kyler was too lazy to study. The result was totally predictable.

[@calebmahoney2448]

While I agree that kids getting that much money that quick has a good chance of making them lazy. I think kylers issue is he knows he could do other things to make money even if no football team wants him. I mean a professional gamer isn’t going to make a lot of money but sponsorships for them make more than enough. Or a baseball contract where he doesn’t need to watch film.

[@melissah8415]

@@calebmahoney2448Baseball players who know study the pitchers they are facing usually to better than those who don't.

[@SuperReviews4you]

As a Rams fan this is awesome that Kyler has to be contractually obligated to do 4 hours of homework a week when Stafford and Kupp put 500 hours last season just between them two.

[@austinschweitzer7382]

Over breakfast and coffee…..it’s really not that hard…..I’d do unspeakable things for 4 hours a week for 230 million.

[@blackyoshi1230]

@@austinschweitzer7382 Or hell, if you have someone driving you to work, then do that during commute time as well. (Philip Rivers was watching film in his van whenever someone was driving him from San Diego to Carson after the Chargers moved.)

[@violetvalkyrie476]

They totally enabled his BS by paying him. What exactly has he accomplished that he's justified in pulling this kind of Diva behavior. I can't blame them for putting that in writing. They should start looking for his replacement right now, just in case he continues to be problematic.

[@JP-je6jg]

Agreed. He didn't have any leverage, he was under contract and whilst been a v good QB, he hasn't achieved what a mahomes or a Jackson or even burrow has at comparable times. The Cards should have made him prove everything he listed in that BS essay he posted about himself.

[@violetvalkyrie476]

@@JP-je6jg absolutely. Put up, or shut up. But I guess that front office doesnt have the balls to do it.

[@WearyKawhi]

I wish y’all would use your brains and understand that it’s a business.... you think they’re going to go without a QB? Kyler was going to get paid by somebody if the the cards didn’t the whole team is built around him.... how could they not pay him? Not pay him and do what?

[@b-rad3681]

@@WearyKawhi I mean you pretty much right but the other guys are right as well ! Cardinals legit had no backup plan at QB if they decided not to pay Kyler but Kyler also didn’t have any leverage whatsoever and the manner in which he went about seeking a new contract was weird ! I just hope it all works out for the cardinals because if it doesn’t , it’ll be a gigantic failure

[@JP-je6jg]

@@WearyKawhi I get it's business, but to me, there is mounting evidence it is bad business for the Cards. He has behaved immaturely very publicly (social media campaign). The need for this clause tells me the Cards have concerns over his maturity and his last game...he completely imploded. As his team has the last few years. Maybe that's a KK team problem but surely a truly great player rises above that, or at least look like they are trying. He is a good player. No one is doubting his talent, but it is obvious he has traits that are causing concern. The Cards obvs gambling he will grow up. I personally have reservations.

[@craigburghardt8604]

Obviously it was an contentious issue. This contract will not age well.

[@b-rad3681]

At all , the cardinals are truly fucked

[@neilm2794]

They had a choice - they could have traded him. Teams lined up for Deshaun Watson the instant the grand jury declined to indict him. CLE looks bad now, but teams lined up to court Watson. Murray would have been easy to trade - and it would have been the right move.

[@TheOneTrueChris]

If Kyler Murray never wins a Super Bowl, you can bet he will blame anyone and everyone but himself.

[@BK-uy9nj]

Provide one example of proof where he’s straight thrown someone under the bus 😂

[@Gnarkkotik_TTV]

@@BK-uy9nj he did. Last year. Playoff game they lost. Blamed EVERYONE but himself and was refusing to go play the rest of the game. He’s a fuckin cry baby.

[@Gnarkkotik_TTV]

@@BK-uy9nj now that I’m looking at all your comments it seems you are a Murray meat rider. So no matter what I say you just gonna have rebuttal😂

[@jaysins]

Us Rams fans love this contract...give him 10 more years. Kyler couldn't handle pressure before, now he's has the pressure from the expectations of that contract. This is going to be an awesome trainwreck to witness (gets out popcorn).

[@Amak99]

I’m flying from Australia just to watch us dismantle Kyler week 3

[@jeff9723]

The rest of the nfc west approves of this contract too.

[@marcob1729]

I don’t think Kingsbury is at fault for not “inspiring” Kyler to watch the tape, despite Rich’s talking point. Kyler knows it’s a QB’s league. He has all the leverage and can tell the coach to screw off

[@travissmith9119]

coach should have the upper hand. Kingsbury should know first hand . after all he backed up Brady. he should be telling him what it takes to be great. doubt he ever will. you gave him all the goodies and he can't even finish his dinner

[@marcob1729]

@@travissmith9119 how does a coach have the upper hand? The fallout from AZ letting Kyler walk would be impossible for a coach to survive, regardless of what "actually" should be done

[@travissmith9119]

maybe so being the owner if I were I'd give the coach a bit more say. it seemed to work well with Belechic and Brady. Kingsbury saw first hand the couple years he was there. and I do think he's a good coach. I think in the end with Belechic and Brady. The coach should have swallowed a bit of pride and said in private, ok Tom obviously you proven yourself, what do you want and need and we'd like you to retire a patriot. This kyler kid thinks he's already all that and above all of that and he's the bomb. and now they've paid him. I would have rathered struggled a year or so more and found a guy that can lead. he needs to humble himself , and with now getting that kind of money doubting it will work. but one of the greatest leaders that inspired people to follow and he made hardly anything as a player...Pat Tillman! Larry Fitzgerald is a stud too. that's the kind of players I'd want. long story short. this kid should be embarrassed. I wouldn't have signed him. I would have shown him the door

[@kevinjones1364]

It is 230 million dollars. Watching film is not "extra work". It is part of the job.

[@will3pr]

Sometimes you just gotta bite the bullet and trade for someone else who’s willing to at least put in the work. I live in Scottsdale, AZ and my friends who are Cardinals fans are absolutely sick rn😂I mean damn even Jay Cutler watched film🤣

[@nbaovernfl918]

I’m sure josh Rosen watch film how was that experiment 🤣

[@will3pr]

@@nbaovernfl918 Lol they traded him to get someone whose priorities seem to be with Faze Clan rather than the Red Sea Fam😂

[@nbaovernfl918]

@@will3pr remember the good days of Sam Bradford, Matt lienart, Carson Palmer, drew staton. Colt McCoy 🤔 bet those guys studied 🤣🤣 how many rings they got 🤣🤣🤣 Cardinals acting brand new soon as they get one decent qb 🤣🤣🤣

[@will3pr]

@@nbaovernfl918 Them days was rough but see I’m a fan of the team because I live here my team is Saints⚜️. Carson Palmer have Cardinals some hope lol I just feel bad for Larry Legend.

[@MisterGravelrama]

The resulting unintended humor from the two guys at the beginning thinking Rich was genuinely giving them compliments while he was simply setting up a joke while the dude in the chair kept repetitively failing miserably was the best part of this entire segment! I wonder if Rich was even aware of the gold he stumbled upon here.

[@EscapeArt15]

I’ve never wanted a team to go 0-17…now I do. KM: “Whose that player in Red?” Cardinals: That’s Hopkins. KM: That’s crazy. Cardinals: That took you 4 hours to realize?

[@HendersonHinchfinch]

Boo

[@noni5961]

You can collect data from the tablet software that tells you what activity was happening every minute.

[@werquantum]

I can’t wait to see how this all plays out over the next season or three.

[@OnYourSquare]

If you've taken a college course online, this isn't a huge deal. Nor that big of a deal. To take your test, you must log in with web cam enabled. To prevent cheating, you must launch the secondary program that monitors your computer for any background programs or launched windows.

[@MrMurder0321]

They could have traded him as well. They took a qb in the 12-15 range with multiple red flags and paid him like the #2. I don’t think Murray will ever win anything major because his ego is too big

[@larryjonnson8093]

Lmfao, yeah, but he received 105mil when he signed this contract! Think about that for minute, 105mil (and did not do his homework)! Who's winning! Him or the Owner? 105mil! Lol, if I was him, I would go down with a *"Fake Back"* injury and collect the 160mil that's guaranteed if he gets injured! Lmfao, now that would leave a really bad taste in you *"Racist Bastards"* mouth!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@warpeace8891]

It is not going to work. 0 - 3 to start this year. This will blow up in both team and players faces. You guys are gonna love it when the courts get involved.

[@renoldrachman5479]

Time to make this clause a standard part of all rookie contracts. Lmao... 😂🤣😫

[@warrioroflight2781]

You made my day guys 😁👍🙏

[@mc76]

I am trying to imagine Tom Brady's reaction to the fact that the Cardinals felt the need to mandate a minimum film study time commitment for Murray.

[@jasondyrkacz8270]

He's laughing harder than we are.

[@5chevin5]

Kyler gives me a Willie Beamin vibe. I wouldn't be surprised if he declines from here, not because of his talent, but because his team will be unable to attract and/or afford other superstars in the years ahead. Kyler has shown that his success is directly effected by the players around him, and if his preparation is in question with them, results may vary.

[@vapepimp7777]

Excellent comparison

[@attache675]

They were lucky to acquire Hopkins. Watt I would’ve said yes maybe 8 years ago at his prime but yeah I hear your point. The fact of the matter is, his team can only carry him so much and ultimately like some of the commentators have said and have to agree with “Studying, even if it gives the slightest edge to you, can make or break a game.” And it’s so true, getting paid the money he does, if he doesn’t produce results come this new extension, whether they know he really studies or not, will make or break his NFL career honestly.

[@dentatusdentatus1592]

"Go out there and play, like you're in the hood and you're throwing the ball and you're mom is ringing the dinner bell."

[@jameswang8756]

Pretty insane what this infers given the low bar to clear here. It infers Kyler spends next to no time independently preparing for the next game. Interesting he could breach his massive contract by spending less than 4 hours weekly. Just wow.

[@kevinshea5819]

He actually SAID that he doesn't spend time watching film...he actually was quoted. Insane.

[@kevinm.8682]

Implies. It IMPLIES that he spends next to no time preparing for the next game.

[@DixonCider1234]

I think it infers that he doesn't even pay attention during the required film study with the team.

[@kevinshea5819]

No..NOT implies. Kyler did interview with New York Times stating he did not watch a lot of film. He said he had a God given ability to see the field. Wow...talk about arrogance.

[@carlwilliams9642]

Just a hunch, but I'm pretty darn sure Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, and Drew Brees didn't need contract clauses to incentivize personal time film study.

[@MrTerryh123]

Time for Kyler to grow up and find strong mentors to listen to 100%. Maybe time to move his current advisers to the back seat. Also, no more high school wins talk!

[@lylebarnard7447]

Bill Belichick once said that when somebody tells you who they are believe them

[@peterbanyai9405]

If the player is not motivated enough to do the work himself, the contract will not help.

[@strettoasino9006]

The person that did his college school work should have gotten a contract...

[@aaronpaul9188]

Stafford basically moved in with Kupp and spent the entire season together. I bet they do 4 hours of film together A DAY. Not a week, each day. And it paid off with no look passes in the super bowl. Murray cant be bothered to finish his only playoff game. Guys lazy and a quitter.

[@jyhas9702]

They're going to use a program that monitors apps open and also uses the front camera to monitor facial expressions and eye movement. Similar programs are used for online test taking for colleges.

[@darrylturner4566]

This is crazy, they rewarded A guy who does not study and plays video games in his spare time. The Cardinals deserve what they Are going to get which is nothing!! No playoff wins!!

[@dontbother2614]

Before this contract if you so much as questioned Kyler’s work ethic in any space with Cardinals fans you would get torched. A handful brought up the red flags but for the most part you were ambushed. This is vindication for all those who have been calling out this man-child’s bs for awhile.

[@hhantel]

I don't even care for Kyler Murray, but I think it's absurd that Kyler's agent let them put this clause in there. He should work harder, but he should also get a new agent. Why are you letting them drive the narrative that you're lazy? You said you felt like you were being scapegoated, but here you are letting them scapegoat you for the future. Kingsbury should be under the same scrutiny as Kyler. He's a college coach who's proven exactly NOTHING at the pro level. He happens to have the same agent as Kyler and I think this is him putting in protection for himself.

[@b-rad3681]

You are speaking facts! I agree with everything you said ! How could the agent have let that be put in there! Like seriously

[@jgr8house]

Whaaaaaaa??? 'Gonna be the "best show" you've ever had?' By far the WORST show before it started.. a Ned Lamont ad?? You approved that?? Or is KZbin making you look stupid without your knowledge?

[@stevenorth1571]

The Cardinals will seriously regret this decision.

[@danbdun910]

Kyler doesn't like to study film because it highlights the fact that he can't see the field.

[@Niex_Knox]

It is kind of awesome, he had somethin comin the way he handled everything. I doubt he remains tge starter through this contract.

[@jaylee8542]

I think it will probably make Kyler worse. No one is ever happy being forced to do something. I bet he grows to resent Arizona fo r it. I see this as the beginning of the end for his tenure there.

[@sparkythesecretsquirrel4013]

Cardinals and Browns. Two highly functional teams.

[@Brotherken1234]

You forgot the Detroit Lions

[@Electro21964]

@@Brotherken1234 The Jacksonville Jaguars as well.

[@TennisLover82]

I'd let him walk Rich. Yep. Because I have a pretty serious lack of confidence that Murray could and would win a Super Bowl without doing the additional work outside of the complex. Period. Full stop. Murray is a fantastic talent. No question. But you only sign a player to a contract extension for this kind of money if you feel like they can take you to a SB with the chance to win. How can they do that if he's unwilling to put in work outside of the office? Want to be an all-time great? Want to win Super Bowl title(s)? You need to put aside the video games, nights out at the club, and the other dozens if not hundreds of things that can pull your attention away from your craft and do the work. Brady is a marginal athlete at best but his throwing mechanics, mind and drive at why he's probably the greatest qb of all-time. Ditto for Manning. The fact he needs a "homework clause" is an embarrassment to both him and The Cardinals for giving him the money but needing to put that in. He needs to grow up and realize he's not in high school or college where his natural talent alone can win him 90% of the games he plays. Now we know why the team collapses after the halfway mark in the season. Teams learn what he's doing, adjust and bury him game after game.

[@harry0042]

The league will eventually catch up with you. Especially if you're not strong in the mental part of the game. Murray, will see talent alone isn't forever. Cardinals front office are stupid. No need to give him this deal now. Oh well.... Good Luck Cards Fans

[@jabbahursty]

can you imagine how lazy and indifferent this guy is that they have to go to such extremes to get him to study 4 hours A WEEK. tom brady studies 4 hours in 15 minutes! what a terrible signing. cardinals are absolutely finished now with all these teams committing suicide, giants future chances look better and better

[@macbeavers6938]

Boy oh Boy! I am just guessing, but I believe that Tom Brady has never had such a clause written into any of his contracts. If anything, Brady should have a clause that tells him to stay away from any thoughts of football for 4 hours every week, not counting sleeping hours. We are watching you! It is pretty pathetic when a talented professional is not "self-motivated". Bye Bye Cardinals!

[@kingofthedots3835]

These type of players have the potential to implode the entire NFL ......this isn't funny anymore !

[@b-rad3681]

Agreed ! This is insane

[@DKing1413]

What you mean

[@johnnyfive9815]

Can we be honest if they would of told him to study in public some would call racism some are calling racism now ... you have to move different with players of color and asking for hard work for this generation has to come from within

[@PeterSedesse]

I'm going to bet that Brady has multiple days each week where he is putting in 4 hrs.

[@Giveme1goodreason]

Guys like Brady and rodgers would have multiple days worth of film study each week. Not just multiple 4hr days but 24-30hrs of study each week plus team activities. You don’t get to their levels of success and be doing the bare minimum. As they say here in Australia. The players are paid to train and prepare. They play for free because they live it. It’s the prep that is their job.

[@zyx777zyx]

It makes sense now why the Cardinals always start hot and then implode towards the end of the season... Kyler doesn't show up prepared, but his opponents do.

[@michaelhansen7516]

As a fan of the Seahawks I look forward to the impending demise of the Cardinals

[@Electro21964]

The Rams will run it back again, as long as nobody gets injured and we keep good luck!

[@joseayala8506]

Why did they “have to” give him a contract to begin with? They could’ve gone the Cleveland route and traded him like they did with Mayfield. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@Nighthawk-8050]

Congratulations Young man you got your money. But you are going to be under a huge microscope the pressure is going to be bearable for you to produce every snap every game. Let's see once and for all if you can get Arizona Cardinals not only to the playoffs but to the super bowl and even after you win that let's see if you go in another super bowl and another hell let's see if you be in the Hall of Fame. Like I said congratulations young man you got the money. There's an old saying be careful what you wish for. And young man haha you got your wish.

[@chikowashere]

Underproduced, underachieved, had a terrible final game in the playoffs. Yet he gets overpaid and then gets upset when asked for accountability. Am I talking about Ben Simmons or Kyler Murray?

[@itsyaboipaulychips4498]

In the end this clause will be meaningless. The team will be too scared to enforce it. Unless they’re trying to get rid of him. There’s no way they wanna upset the franchise qb

[@Kainteeka]

and this going public will probably ensure he doesn't do it even if just to be the spoiled brat

[@geoffscimone9102]

RIch, understand, I am from New England, but, surely the contract has a typo, it says 4 hours per week,!! not 4 hours per night!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?????!!!!!!!!!

[@lukewronski9823]

Perhaps the biggest weakness of Kyler's game that I've noticed is that he plays the. whole game like he's down 3 touchdowns. Not enough patience, not playing the field position game, going for the big completion downfield when all they need is 6 for a first down. Not sure if watching more tape can help this, problem but it might.

[@nomadicrain]

This problem is why he falls apart in the second half of the season. He can’t make adjustments because he has no clue what to adjust and he won’t study what the coaching staff asks him to study so teams know exactly what he is going to do and pummel him because he won’t adapt.

[@jimc8523]

This is a non-story. They are paying this player what, $50 mil a year? He's 24 years old - at best a young man and more likely still a "big kid". I know in this contract obsessed sports world we live in we have become desensitized by enormous sums of money, but you're talking about paying this young man/kid an absolute fortune. As these contracts continue to balloon it is to be expected that contract verbiage will evolve, become more specific, more demanding. I get paid a mere fraction of the money and still have a clearly defined set of rules and expectations in my employee handbook... This really isn't any of our business frankly and I'm not sure why people are so obsessed with talking about money and contracts moreso than the sport itself. It's kind of ruining sports IMO.

[@TheWagnasty]

This is one of the most embarrassing things I have ever heard of.

[@itoo3654]

Sports contract t wise.

[@pushslice]

JaMarcus Russell has a Mini-me???? Sweeeeeeet!!

[@floridapmi]

I am friends with a father of a Ravens player, and he has told his father that Lamar Jackson is the same way. It's more important for Lamar to get high and pick up girls at the mall than practice, and the coaches can't do anything about it.

[@b-rad3681]

Wow!!!! Makes me wonder if Lamar jackson new contract will have this same type of clause in it . It’s just a bad look all around honestly because we’ve never seen this with any other QB before !

[@jbo6096]

@@b-rad3681 Mike Vick didn't study playbook not sure bout film but doubt he took it seriously when young.. saw huge difference as vet though

[@illmaticthis]

Yeah right 🤣

[@floridapmi]

@@illmaticthis I bet it's a lot more prevalent than we believe. These guys have multi-million-dollar contracts, and they know coaches only have so much power over them.

[@randallmadison9910]

Coming from someone who talks about sports all year. When news broke about Mark McGwire (misspelled possibly) and PEDs, investigative journalists covering real news had to be brought in to get to the bottom of the story. Football is a business. Most play for a short period. Risk of injury is astronomical compared to basketball and baseball. The man got his money by any means necessary. He won.

[@FINALFLASH1988]

I love when he finally beat my Rams he's all juking and jiving and good ol time 🙂 Then come the 2nd meeting and we win then in the playoffs we beat the BREAKS off Arizona, he's throwing a tantrum and pouting and butthurt like a gen-z always is 🤣🤣🤣 Same energy Kyler same energy

[@Blank12456]

This feels like something you would hear about JaMarcus Russell

[@austinschweitzer7382]

Not only do I agree with it, but I’d bet it becomes common practice. You can’t treat the NFL like a business only when it’s convenient to your argument. For 230 MILLION dollars. As a business man, you better believe my quarterback is watching film. What other industry would you give someone a promotion for declining performance?

[@random-nz7dy]

This is going down as the one of the worst contracts in NFL history. The cardinals live in the first organization to stand up to a player who's done nothing to earn this kind of a contract and say "no, not until you prove you can do more than win in weeks 1-8". I'm sick and tired of hearing that oh that's market value so it's just what you do. BS. And also, Rich mentioned pressure. What pressure is he under exactly? When you guarantee somebody's going to make $160 million....that's not pressure. I'd love to be under that kind of pressure at work hahahaha

[@sprintstothebathroomdaily2429]

This is literally a little over 30 minutes a day watching some film. Insane

[@Ruckus45]

I would love nothing more for him to break this clause and give the cards a reason to drop the contract. Imagine losing 9 figures because you couldn't be bothered to study a few hours.

[@tyanthony1499]

Couldn't you make the same argument about any incentive put into a contract? Why then aren't ALL nfl contracts fully guaranteed then? Didn't a guy a few years ago miss a $1m bonus because he miss a workout? That obviously was an incentive in his contract, every player is expected to workout. So no quarterback has an incentive in their contract that gives them a bonus for throwing a certain amount of yards or tds? Shouldn't they be doing that anyway? I don't understand the logic behind this non story, yall just hate seeing black men get that much money

[@markjsram]

Cards should have never given this kid that much money. Not focused. Not grown. I would take Jimmy G over this guy

[@jooson2826]

Check yourself Rich

[@Neverhadachance05]

This clause makes the team and player look amateurish

[@road2nowhere733]

Its the year 2028 - 30 for 30 "The 230 club" How red flags became a must have QB trait

[@nunyabizness6662]

I am so sick of people saying the Cardinals had no choice. They absolutely had a choice. The fact they paid this guy when they had to place that into his contract, what a joke. Let him sit and not play and not get paid and go get other players for what you are paying him. What a bunch of 🤡🤡🤡🤡