It's Time To Name And Shame - WAN Show June 2, 2023

[@NoKi1119]

You had the opportunity to make this WAN Show on the sofa like the good ol' days. I demand a re-stream, Andy! -Timestamps- [0:00] *Chapters.* [1:36] *Intro.* [2:24] *Topic #1: TaiWAN Show.* > 3:52 Linus's discusses how he feels after stepping down. > 6:20 Linus on the lack of PC gaming LTT videos. > 8:16 Microblade servers, recalling history of CPUs. > 10:04 ASUS's concept product on SC, NVIDIA & Intel's progress. > 15:06 Push of development in servers & its impact on gaming. > 19:01 Linus on the PCI-E Gens & speed, Luke on the Switch. > 23:06 Has Linus buried the hatchet with NVIDIA's Jensen? Discussing games. > 25:42 NVIDIA's market value hits $1T, thoughts on GeForce. > 34:27 Linus recalls company behaviors in the absence of competition. > 38:12 Retention of LTT's GPU video, Linus on the history of GPUs. > 40:42 Linus on GPU V.S. graphics card, NVIDIA's GPUs, AMD Uprising Campaign. [45:42] *LTTStore's new fleece lined jacket ft. Breakfast.* > 47:34 Possible reversible garment. > 49:04 Linus on LTTStore's good merch reviews. [49:56] *Merch Messages #1.* > 50:05 Would Linus & Luke fly to space? If so, where? > 55:08 How do you think A.I. would affect gaming - lazy, polished or used conservatively? > 59:53 How were you motivated to make LTT? Did you think of KZbin as a feasible career? [1:08:01] *Topic #2: GIGABYTE's motherboards UEFI backdoor exploit.* > 1:09:52 GIGABYTE pushes out updates, discussing forced updates? > 1:11:10 The human element is often neglected. > 1:13:56 Linus recalls the people behind projects & products. > 1:18:52 Luke on audiences wanting reviewers to say the same thing. > 1:21:42 Linus on collaborating with creators, LTX 2023. > 1:23:08 New NVIDIA rep, recalling NVIDIA's behavior & HU's controversy. > 1:30:46 Linus on the moves brands pull & change of agreements. > 1:39:52 Luke & Linus on past LTT's quantity goals. [1:41:02] *Topic #3: Why LTT didn't cover Streacom on COMPUTEX.* > 1:44:39 Linus on his videos on the case, Kickstarter & sketchy CALYOS. > 1:50:38 Classic brand response, Linus's response in person. > 1:53:12 Linus feels bad for Streacom, recalls Cole-Bar. > 1:56:16 "Bait-&-switch," Kickstarter's terms V.S. morality [1:58:04] *Sponsors ft. Trolling Dan.* > 1:58:44 Backblaze. > 2:00:15 Squarespace. > 2:00:56 Blackpoint Cyber. [2:02:07] *Merch Messages #2 ft. Aj, Dan's on Linus's chair.* > 2:03:28 Dedicated A.I. chips to be in future devices? > 2:05:29 How did ShortCircuit get its name? ft. History of meetings. > 2:12:36 Challenges with Luke returning to LMG? [2:14:12] *Topic #4: Linus's pool contractor update.* > 2:17:57 Linus on Coverstar, in-wall stairs. > 2:20:02 Slabs are ready, delay of two years. > 2:22:24 Unable to do the whole-room video cooling, recommendation. > 2:25:02 Two weeks of work left. [2:25:32] *Topic #5: LTX 2023 update.* > 2:25:56 Volunteers link are live, mentioning booths & events. > 2:28:22 List of creators coming. [2:31:02] *Topic #6: Diablo IV's community Q&A with “real fan questions.”* [2:32:40] *Topic #7: Dolphin's Steam release postponed.* > 2:34:28 Is there anything else Valve could've done? [2:35:38] *Topic #8: Reddit's API pricing.* > 2:41:06 Response of Redditors, Linus on Reddit prompts, API calls. [2:43:56] *Audio cuts off ft. The DAN Show.* > 2:45:50 Audio returns, was a connection issue. [2:46:42] *Topic #9: Update on NEDA's A.I. help chatbot.* [2:48:18] *Topic #10: Meta Quest 3 to release this fall.* > 2:48:50 Linus's "price tossing" example. > 2:49:26 Linus's interesting dinner with a billionaire. > 2:51:14 The Matrix reference, "little blue pills." > 2:52:46 History of Apple Watch's & iPad release. > 2:56:00 Initial reaction to Apple's new products. > 2:58:08 Is LTT invited to WWDC 2023? "under the table money." [3:00:32] *Merch Messages #3 ft. WAN Show "After Dark."* > 3:01:52 Why not review the ROG Ally closer to the release date? > 3:06:08 Most interesting thing you saw at COMPUTEX that wouldn't make a good video? > 3:08:56 When Linus dies, who would you want to sponsor the funeral? > 3:10:38 Did anyone kick Linus out when moving out of offices? > 3:12:30 Any unshared stories of reps coming through to help you out? > 3:13:42 Anything that made you excited but didn't make it to a video? > 3:14:20 Physics add-in card that use A.I.? > 3:14:47 Thoughts on the modded 3070 with 16GB GDDR6? > 3:15:44 What are some of the ways Yvonne feels celebrated? > 3:21:15 What would the tech community desire but everyone regrets wanting? > 3:22:34 Has there been a tech trend that surprised you in COMPUTEX? [3:29:32] *FP Poll: Sponsor wants SC to unbox sealed N64s.* > 3:32:51 Poll results, Linus Cars Tips. [Cont.] *Merch Messages #3.* > 3:38:15 Standout food you've experienced in other countries? > 3:38:48 Biggest challenges to overcome, and how did you do it? > 3:39:18 What other store centers & fronts would you consider? > 3:40:12 Would you recommend a career at tech at 50? > 3:41:38 Do you fellows have any uncle-ing tips? > 3:43:45 What are Linus's favorite configs for daily socks? > 3:44:25 How important is it to you when you don't want to be recognized in public? > 3:45:56 What's the first home project Linus has done? ft. Alarm going off. > 3:48:01 What kind of things would Linus pick up in his free time? > 3:48:28 Noticed improvements from the ROG Ally's update? TotK performance? > 3:50:30 Do you carry any skills from your product manager days? [3:53:58] *Outro.*

[@krishnachittur]

Legend! Thank you!

[@AndrewRyan11]

Dude you just don't miss, phenomenal work as usual

[@blorby]

Thanks! That’s awesome!

[@OmahaGTP]

Not all heroes wear capes.

[@tinoda6413]

My man, Legend, Thanks

[@mikez6289]

Massive tech channel with access to any real tech we can imagine…. Hosts show sharing a wired pair of headphones . Love it

[@Enixious99]

"But Bluetooth!!! D:" -Apple

[@BrawlerTheSmokyDutchMan]

I think they need an old school jack splitter.

[@rosen9425]

yeah not even one each, just share one pair for hours 😂

[@MoA-Reload...]

No matter how much they grow, you can't take the jank out of LTT 😂

[@Sir.Craze-]

Not even one of those fun little 3.5 jack splitters! 🤭 I've been beat to this comment. But it was still my first thought. Great minds think alike!

[@matthewbecker2387]

Nice of you guys to rep Starforge systems in the background there.

[@tobiwonkanogy2975]

Great joke ;)

[@JMUDoc]

Can't see the balls...

[@nogoat]

@@JMUDoc The two smaller buildings are obviously the balls

[@Dreddy72]

@@nogoat and traditionally, one is larger than the other.

[@Secret_Takodachi]

If you notice any unexpected lumps on your buildings, it's VERY IMPORTANT to get them checked immediately! 😂❤

[@benjaminsmith3625]

Linus: Goes to Taiwan: plays Badminton. Linus: Goes to Moon: plays Badminton

[@pixelmaster98]

playing Badminton on the moon would certainly be an experience. Well, perhaps not more than being on the moon in the first place xD

[@listofromantics]

No cap, Badminton is a LOT of fun.

[@sombrero4316]

@@listofromanticsnow imagine badminton in slow motion, on a football field

[@PrograError]

we need a BadminTube League

[@loudneon]

First near zero latency video feed from Mars: Linus playing badminton in background.

[@tanishqsahu2564]

Man, they surely have improved the quality of green screens nowadays

[@rppitcher92]

Ujn😊😊😊

[@_DePaddy]

so when wan show after dark starts.. does the sky get dark ? xD

[@Sir.Craze-]

Yet noise canceling foam panals have become a lost technology 🤔 Curious.

[@Orphioux]

@@Sir.Craze- I wouldn't be surprised if they did set some up, not for the video but to avoid noise complaints.

[@romonin]

❤❤❤❤@@rppitcher92 ❤❤❤❤😂😂❤❤😂😂

[@nochnoy13]

Enjoying Dan's voice-over commentary during technical difficulties.

[@Siphonife]

I was hoping he'd say "guess its the Dan show now."

[@unbentcrayfish]

I'd watch The Dan Show all day.

[@blueberryadept6519]

I KNEW it was GRN who was your pool contractor based on your nagging complaints. Both Chris and his brother Andy are dirt bags. Everything in that company seemingly runs through Chris but he’s terrible at his job and has very little forethought in planning. I’ve seen finished pools with upwards of 150’ of pipe snaked underground, re-plastered pools immediately after start up because the plaster guys mixed the wrong plaster, illogical plumbing systems (returns attached to waste lines underground), you name it. I’m so glad I quit. I’ve been following this company through fuck up after fuck up and I’m so, so incredibly sorry you gave them money.

[@LinusTechTips]

Yeah pretty unhappy with our experience.... - LS

[@KriLL325783]

Sounds a bit like experiences I've had with some contractors, they prioritize easy jobs to get good reviews or get money in, and if at some point it's clear you're not going to give them a good review you're put on the bottom of the priority list, and they only show up when they have nothing else to work on, and if they show up they send one guy to do a 3-5 man job and make no real progress. And they keep saying the problem is that they don't have the right materials, when reviews from others makes it clear they got the materials, they're just not allocating any to you.

[@Shadow0fd3ath24]

my neighbor has a crew of 6 guys and builds pools and they do them in MAX of like 45 calendar days for a REALLY nice one. and like 12-14 real work days for them...thats from groundbreaking to finishing the grass and concrete edging/cleaning and filling the pool to the top. They do 3-4 at a time and stagger which days they are where...and every one is nice AF and 10% less than anyone within 1200 miles. Dude lives 1/4 mile from me down a paved driveway in a 4 million dollar house. We shoot and ride dirtbikes sometimes, i worked there for 6 months too and it was amazing how well he does it and how smooth it goes tbh. Because he has a BRAIN

[@Premier-Media-Group]

odd that a lot of GRN positive reviews were from posters who only had one review. For someone who has never left a Google review - ever - to then a very detailed and comprehensive review for GRN seems shady, at best.

[@szerdrew8034]

​​@@Premier-Media-Groupotentially shady. OR its people that just go about their lives not reviewing any and everything, until they get to the one company and/or one fuck up so bad that they actually feel the need to say something about it. Imo, from Linus saying how many similar bad reviews were about the company, particually before he has named and shamed them, it sounds like the former. Now that he has named them i wouldnt put it passed the internet hoarde to review bomb them though (which i do not condone if they were not a customer of the company), so in that case any new reviews are significantly more suspect. EDIT: upon rereading the message i responded to, i realized i misread. I thought Premier was saying singular BAD reviews were suspicious. When in actuality, they said singular GOOD reviews were suspicious. My bad!

[@dagiwardanmo]

KZbin played this video while I was asleep. It’s the second time it plays WAN-show.

[@BrendanOgorden]

@@dagiwardanmo every morning when I wake up it’s either wan show or cleetus McFarland live

[@AptLane]

I just woke up to this video 😂

[@s7r1dr420]

Thank you for letting us know about the Gigabyte mobo vulnerability! Stopped this video and updated BIOS as soon as Luke said over 270 models were affected.

[@Hakeraiden]

Bruh... literally disable a function in your mobo and delete GCC if you use it

[@LeafBoye]

​@@Hakeraiden he's already fixed the problem he doesn't need to know what you recommend

[@Orphioux]

@@Hakeraiden What does this even mean I'm too noob for this hoodoo woodoo

[@bakedbeanfanclub]

choose your fighter: 1) a hacky fix involving several steps you learned about in the KZbin comments section of the wan show 2) the simple fix provided by the motherboard vendor that’s guaranteed to fix the issue

[@76TyranT76]

Also updated my bios following this news, and also uninstalled the GCC software since i wasn't using it anyway.

[@sloc_]

100% agree with Luke on reviewers, I watch certain reviewers to get different perspectives and use cases. I don't want them to all be the same because that would entirely defeat the point. Reviewers are individuals and they will notice and value different things and that is infinitely more valuable than them all agreeing and covering the product in the same way.

[@ExarchGaming]

we're seeing it in so many different spaces, where there has to be a community line that is towed or you may get review bombed. The chat correctly called out the Asus thing, where Linus and team came up with a different conclusion than J2C and GN, and they caught flak for it, despite it being a fairly well thoughtout and reasonable take. The need for people to crucify any sort of mistake not even just the tech industry; twitter is the greatest example of this. You can see it for example during the hogwarts legacy thing; where anything other than absolute and total disdain for the author of harry potter, but it cascading down to the game that had little to do with her at all, to the point of harassing creators that were even sympathetic towards them. Xepla/ZeplaHQ for example and her absolute pop off during the middle of it all was absolutely on the fucking money.

[@TheJjjoj]

@@ExarchGaming A lot of hate for most companies, and individuals for that matter, is based on singular anecdotal experience and lacks the consistency of negative behavior to warrant it. It also typically ignores any good the company, or individual, has done. It's emotional and not logical. That's why it is so easy to blow it out of proportion. It's funny how easy it is to see the tendencies of these youtubers when something like this happens. GN tends to push a bit too hard for their own preferences. Usually, this is good for most, but sometimes, in a roundabout way, it's to the extreme detriment of everyone. Jay jumps on every bandwagon he possibly can at this point and rarely takes any steps to help improve a situation. Often, he unintentionally stokes the flames. He seems principled but thoughtless. Linus invariably becomes an apologist while trying to play the devil's advocate since he's not that great at it. Luke usually has a pretty measured take since he's so much more focused on building Floatplane that he stays fairly removed from the youtube bullshit most of the time.

[@leonkernan]

It’s fun to watch them in almost our time zone for a change.

[@dwnsdp]

Gone even further the wrong way for me 😢

[@Jaxv3r]

Same I'm from the Philippines but they still stream at the same time.

[@Xsses]

Europeans still not happy.

[@DankerTVTimeCapsule]

7AM BST finish for me so even later than usual. To be fair they probably were targeting 3 hours but even Linus admitted they went too long.

[@MaxinfamilyYT]

​@@Xsses we are not happy in the UK either :(

[@freakemighty]

2:14:12 is the start of the conversation that the title is based off of.

[@RandomUser2401]

yeah timestamps missing and headline topic waaasy too deep in. thx, you da mvp.

[@jfwfreo]

The video DerBauer did showing the PowerColor GPU production facility is the perfect example of how a company can gain a huge PR boost from listening to what the content creator actually wants to see (and not just pushing the content creator to accept what marketing wants to push on them). The number of people who commented on that video and said "my next card will be a PowerColor" (and probably those who made the same decision but didn't comment about it) and the overall good press they got for showing off their line and being open about it likely more than justifies whatever costs PowerColor incurred in making it happen.

[@J_Echoes]

Sure. I recently got a secondhand PowerColor card (no previous experience with them) and that vid really strengthened my confidence in them as a company. That degree of transparency is really nice to see.

[@Freestyle80]

😂😂😂😂😂 freaking powercolor is still niche, they also chose a shit name

[@BirkJunghanns]

According to 1, the highest recorded speed for a golf ball is 226 mph, or about 0.1 km/sec. However, the escape velocity from the moon is 2374 m/s, or almost 2.37 km/s 2. Therefore, a golf ball on the moon would not be able to escape its gravitational pull.

[@TheKarabanera]

But that's the speed with Earth gravity and air resistance. Since there is no atmosphere on the moon - it's likely the speed will be higher. I'm not saying it will be high enough to escape the Moon gravity, but 226mph is simply wrong for this.

[@Bomkz]

​@@TheKarabanera right, but less gravity means you won't be able to hit the ball as hard as you can on earth due to that, since if you use too much force, you'll tumble before even hitting the ball because you're not standing on steady ground.

[@rustyslug2943]

@@Bomkz foot straps

[@Bomkz]

@@rustyslug2943 that would require you to have something heavy enough, amd/or bury it deep enough to keep you in place.

[@omgpickle]

As if we've been to the moon. Fake news!

[@nickbondarenko5940]

I’m so glad my merch message made Dan and Luke cry laugh 3:08:56

[@niizzy7485]

I died lmao

[@fettolehart]

I was laughing so hard I started coughing, was great. Just wish D-Brand responded lol.

[@DankerTVTimeCapsule]

You got Dan to drop a swear. i call that a success.

[@miguelguthridge]

Legitimately a great merch message, awesome job.

[@patemathic]

​@@fettolehart they did later on

[@yellingintothewind]

Regarding the kickstarter issue: There is a large difference between "we think we can develop this novel product for around X total money. Please fund us to develop the needed technology" and "we have this new technology ready to go, just have to find a fab to make it and get enough orders to make it cost effective". In this case, they had the former type of campaign, but used the one existing prototype to make it sound like the second type of campaign. That's not cool, regardless of if you are an established company or a single individual in your basement. Obviously, they did it that way to get more people to buy, because there are a lot more people willing to buy via kickstarter to get a good price when the advertised risk is relatively low.

[@MrSteppenwolf0]

Hiring Dan for Wan show was a really good decision. Really good fit. "As a glove, some would say".

[@joed3483]

This was one of the best wan shows. You guys raw and on Loc is pretty awesome. You underestimate how good you both are as hosts and your charisma. Keep it up Linus and Luke!

[@badman5]

I want a full video update on the pool contractors and especially the lawsuit. So much so I would subscribe to Floatplane just to watch it.

[@DailyCorvid]

He needs a second channel for Linus, I realised I don't really care about LTT _at all_ all I am interested in is the WAN show and Linus personal life :D

[@trailchaser2]

Did they mention this in the wan show, I'm searching for it but can't find it?

[@tobiwonkanogy2975]

it seems they took on too many jobs with no materials being delivered to that side of Canada. a huge shipping road collapsed during that time . They could've had better planning or been more honest about the problems . 2 years is ridiculous for what seems like cement , grout , gravel and sand. The only other bits are the pool shell or tiling, a pump filter combo, no heater necessary with the setup with solar and the server rack loop. the cover , basically roll up awning and clips into something on the other side. The landscaping issues . it seems like a perfect shitstorm

[@Janzer_]

wonder how much of the materials problems in canada had to do with the trucker strike because of facist covid vacc requirements. oh well.

[@3xceIIent]

@@trailchaser2 2:14:10

[@visualdarkness]

About the misogyny stories. I joined my ex to a big store when she was going to get a new laptop for coding. She asked about Linux compatibility and compilation performance but the young dude basically started talking to and answering to my face instead of hers ALL THE TIME. After a while we got so annoyed that we left the store. Maybe ask the data scientist the questions instead of asking me, a failed political science bachelor?

[@SamJoex]

1:23:02 "NEVER stop critically thinking for yourself." True words of wisdom.

[@kysputnikable]

Imagine an AI pay to win game where the game is always evolving coming up with ways to make you pay 😳

[@IR-MaNu]

EA is very interested in your idea!!

[@dodge_walks]

@@IR-MaNu EAI....coming soon ™

[@emulador6580]

LIfe?

[@rosen9425]

@@IR-MaNu wow can't even forget about EA more than I already have. Of course they will do this 🤦

[@ZipplyZane]

Which is why I'm happy we're still just on LLMs, not GAI.

[@Alzorath]

1:56:40 It's always surprising how many "businesspeople" I dealt with, even back in university, that just didn't understand the concept of law being the bare minimum as Luke said - we had to do a pitch to venture capitalists for one course, and it was a nightmare since I kept butting heads with one of my assigned "team members" over ethics, and we ended up having to scrap his accounting work on the piece and redo it the day before the presentation.

[@MHWGamer]

and you wonder why everybody thinks business people are seen as dimwits? lol the whole system of them only works because the one who employed them were also dimwits and the really sad part is that they actually make money with that "mindset" (or lack there-of) praise to all of them who stand out from the sea of idiots

[@TAP7a]

That's not a bug, that's a feature of capitalism. Like why do you think there are so many asks for structural changes ranging from a New Deal 2 to getting voices other than capitalists making decisions right the way to full worker ownership? Like none of this should ever have come as a surprise, that's business as usual: ethics are a PR decision at most

[@zacharyharwell351]

​@@TAP7a Only when those in charge have no morals themselves. Capitalism is a vehicle for exchange of goods and services via a fiat currency. If the people involved in it are moral, then it works fine. If they AREN'T moral, things go to shit, as we've seen

[@realtechhacks]

Morality not being the same thing as the law is a concept a lot of people fail to get, especially when bending morality benefits them.

[@Janzer_]

@@TAP7a that's not an issue of capitalism, that's a human issue of being corrupt. hate the player not the game.

[@nickaudio]

I'm a bit embarrassed to admit but had to share -- I'm 2:19:00 into the show and I just now noticed the branding on the lower 3rd says The Taiwan Show

[@rightwingsafetysquad9872]

We have full virtualization support on desktop because Intel and VMware understood that if they wanted it to be ubiquitous in the server space, they would need it to be as easy as possible for students and hobbyists to learn. The same reason GeForce supports CUDA (even if it mostly runs like crap).

[@jacobmontgomery5194]

Love that you still held the show, but WOW - this makes me realize how great your studio audio quality is… safe travels!

[@YamiSpyro2011]

I only just noticed the TaiWAN Show

[@jasonthesnow]

2:34:05 linus takes a drink out of his water bottle only to find he forgot to unscrew the lid

[@anewbimproves5622]

Just realised Dan is missing from the opening animation. Time for a refresh?

[@billbrown69]

I agree, but that said Linus has about 4 opening animations made some 6 months ago?😮 as a refresh and they NEVER remember to use them 😂

[@thomasphillips885]

Dan's should be the one paddling, or pulling the boat while swimming

[@anewbimproves5622]

@@thomasphillips885 Yes! That's perfect 😆

[@NoxiousWZRD]

i know its been a long time since luke and linus have gone on a trip like this and i feel like the growth of the company has been a factor. I'm really happy to see them having fun together. the comment about beef noodle soup at 230 in the morning... its those kinds of experiences that make great memories.

[@jackielinde7568]

I get your guys' point on the "Never attribute to malice what can be attributable to ineptitude." HOWEVER, what scares me about this is having to trust that Gigabyte isn't going to sneak their own spyware on to people's PC's using this. Even if they can make that back door out of iron and make their data centers iron fortresses so the end user would never be hacked, we still have to trust Gigabyte with this power. We live in an age where information has never been more valuable than today. And we live in an age where Microsoft, Google, Apple, Amazon, and Facebook have CLEARLY SHOWN they don't care about end user privacy. Our data is minable and valuable, and here's a company that has a built in back door to our PC's through their product. How long before Gigabyte abuses that back door, and how much longer until we discover it? That scares me. There was a time period a few years ago where MSI, NZXT, and Gigabyte all had dangerous products on the market and got SPANKED by GamersNexus over how bad their customer service and handling of this product. (I think it was the exploding power supplies that was Gigabyte's issue.) They have clearly shown in the past they will turn their noses up at customers, so you'll have to excuse me about trusting them with this going forward.

[@kieron39]

"Common Key - This is the “shared secret” that we extracted with the Tweezer Hack. This key is known by all Wiis, but is never used, directly, to encrypt anything. Instead, all titles are encrypted with a random AES key; this key is then encrypted with the Common key and then stored inside a ticket. The ticket is then transmitted along with the content - on discs, it’s part of the “certificates” found before the encrypted data starts. Thus, knowing the common key allows you to decrypt most Wii content, as long as you have the right ticket. This key is stored in the OTP area inside the Starlet ARM core inside the Hollywood package." it sounds like the common key is just used in the encryption/decryption process along with the individual game ticket, maybe as a salt.

[@dhgodzilla1]

Taipei is a great City & Taiwan is a Great Country. Yes I said it, it's a Country

[@LaughingOrange]

Yvonne seem to be doing great work. And she is at a place in her career where (hopefully) the only next step in her career is retirement together with Linus, leaving behind a very successful business.

[@halvarf]

As far as I understand, they both _just_ decided against that because it'd be boring.

[@notapplicable1483]

The comparison of Ai in gaming to CGI in movies is brilliant

[@Zwettekop]

I found it weird how he used it as an argument to say that using AI is not a cop out. Even today when CGI is a mature technology there's a massive problem in Hollywood where movies overuse CGI because the industry isn't unionized. Similarly AI is cheaper then creating content yourself so I suspect we'll also see a continued amount of lazyness for decades to come. Thats not to say it won't be useful off course. Maybe he did say it and i missed it.

[@vuri3798]

@@Zwettekop His point was that he didn't like the word lazy because it makes him feel like this word is directed at devs when he believes it's an upper management issue. The thing is.... Whether it's on devs or management, it doesn't matter. Someone still felt like being lazy, could be one or the other, or both. He argues that AI is just a tool so it can't be lazy. Yes, AI isn't lazy... Humans are. I've spent time in art, music and craftmanship and I can tell you that in any field, the more tools you give to people the more they rely on it, which is obvious and completely normal. It helps them push further, and they don't look back. Level of entry gets lower (not a bad thing in itself), and newcomers don't need to be as skilled when said tool does the job for them, and they're not really interested in the old techniques so they don't learn it. Which also is understandable, why would you when the tool just works. But then at some point they can't rely on it, and they're completely fucked. Down the line tools offer you great possibilities that wouldn't have been possible otherwise, but ease also weakens you foundations, it is what it is. "Similarly AI is cheaper then creating content yourself so I suspect we'll also see a continued amount of lazyness for decades to come" What I personnaly worry about is ease of use. If in decades it becomes such a powerful and easy tool to the point anybody can create anything, that could be a slow burn (I do'nt see how a sudden downgrade in content could take place) leading us to an oversaturation of mediocrity making it really hard to find gems.

[@jorceshaman]

Luke saying "I don't value a car that doesn't get driven" reminds me of a line in the song Carz. "My cars got miles. Garage queens? That's your style!"

[@helicopter201]

Need more "good/bad" review compilations😂 "Millions if not hundreds of thousands"💀

[@Sol-Orion]

Luke makes that joke and it flies right over Linus' head @ 2:52:40 lmao

[@firesyde424]

You are right about Virtualization. Back in the day, you needed a Xeon and a server OS. One of the first real big desktop virtualization was the "XP Mode" in Windows 7.

[@vanhalenbr]

For me the first time I saw virtualization was when Mac OS X was released and you could run Mac OS 9 on a transparent VM.

[@kamil118]

Phew, 4h wan show again. Good to be back after last week's measly 2 hours.

[@AndyOz2012]

Since I'm watching the vod after and can't vote in the console pole: I think it's cool to open all of them except one to keep in pristine condition for history's sake. You never know, you could end up being the last people to have a sealed original and I think it's important to preserve that to some extent.

[@ussul6524]

This is like THE one source I go for what is going on at tech. I have google news, but I like how you talk about it and share your views. Sometimes you shift from business to gamer view. This one was to the bone what the show is about. NICE! 🥇 For LTX pls do videos for plp who cannot attend. I would like to c what other plp/creators do. TY

[@guss77]

The difference between going to the ISS vs to the moon is like driving from Vancouver to Portland vs taking a jet and flying to Portland but instead of stopping at Portland, continue 10 times around the earth before landing at Portland.

[@kia8077]

46 minutes into this, after eating most of his own breakfast burrito Linus remembers there's a burrito for Luke. That's cold literally and metaphorically

[@costafilh0]

YVONNE IS THE BRAINS OF THE WHOLE OPERATION. Linus is just the pretty face lol

[@dvn.s_0069]

Linus, Luke, I really appreciate the lighter setup this time. Even though this was just on the go, it is good to see some daylight in your videos.

[@TheMotlias]

1:48:23 what he gave them was an ultimatum not blackmail

[@fluffiestsugar]

I came down to the comments after seeing more people in KZbin's live chat going, "uh, that's totally blackmail, duh" or "it's actually extortion." I desperately needed to see someone in chat with a brain, so thank you for your comment.

[@AAllinsonNN]

Those of us with brains rarely watch live. We have thinking things to do and wait for the prime opportunity to listen and pay attention lol

[@666Daheretic]

I don't know if this will help but please show Yvonne this comment. Yvonne you have nobody to prove anything to. You are amazing, valid, and very determined. We all appreciate what you do at LMG and personally videos that feature you are some of my favorite videos. You are a boss and you do it with a smile and a glowing attitude. Keep being a success. The people who make those comments are jealous that they haven't nor could ever achieve what you have. P.S. I see what you did there Luke with the lifting things up comment lol. I thought it was very good innuendo even if Linus didn't catch it lol.

[@Jockyr]

34:00 if Nvidia splits up to be Nvidia and GeForce as separate companies, wouldn't the Nvidia shareholders want to keep all the silicone for their own high margin products, thus hurting Geforce even more? And if yhe split also splits the company shares proportionaly or something, what would keep the investors from selling their Geforce shares and put it all into Nvidia as they'll have the better margins? Am I missing something or misunderstanding Linus' point about splitting?

[@LVIS-a]

Thank you for this TaiWAN show 🙏

[@laraava]

I hit the next video button 10 times and got 10 WANs.

[@costafilh0]

This is why you need a VERY STRONG and BROAD legal team on LMG! Most tech youtubers are covering the new passive case and not talking about the Kickstarter fiasco! You should also have a group of tech youtubers to share critical information like this so as a community you can really call out manufacturers and service providers on their BS and protect the consumer beyond good reviews.

[@m3rkyj4ck6]

ty KZbin so much... for making sure I wake up every day with a vod from you guys obnoxiously playing, without fail, I'm not gonna lie I only watch you guys when I need help with my pc

[@hikaruyoroi]

2:52:40 It's okay Luke, I caught that joke and laughed for a full minute

[@spooforbrains]

His face haha

[@astrobotnautics5291]

In terms of Ai scraping data, how come that money won't reach the pockets of the authors of works / posts / pictures / videos etc etc... For such a multi trillion dollar industry to exist, perhaps people need compensation for their contribution.

[@Tygrysmen]

Still no mention about closing of RARBG the biggest TV shows & Movie torrent for 15 years?

[@neferiusnexus]

you know they're homies from how they share a single earbuds headset like that.

[@gedassmiskal548]

i always found it useful that you guys show both sides, it just allows you to make a better decision

[@Wrathlon]

Regarding the casual misogyny thing - I HATE that so much. A girl I dated was a scientist and she was a lot smarter than me on a lot of things and more than competent on plenty of technical stuff. I absolutely HATED when people would talk to me and not her when its her issue/question/whatever and Im just the person who happens to be there. I would constantly have to deliberately look confused even if I understood and shrug and say "Look I dont know shes the one who knows" and it made me so mad every time it happens. I can only imagine how it makes women feel. I got a light taste of it when I learned a bunch of makeup stuff and took a huge interest in another girl I dateds hobby so I could actually talk to her about it and contribute to it, use it for proper gift ideas, etc. I went to buy her some super specific brushes she wanted and holy shit the condescension I received because it wasnt the normal recommendation (which I knew she wanted the other kind for a very specific reason) and I just copped a wall of "Silly man what would you know" attitude. Id go postal if I had to deal with that every day and in things that actually matter.

[@costafilh0]

Family member: "Are you going back to work?" YVONNE: "I AM THE WORK ! ! !"

[@theskuffedknerd]

Searching for gamelinked gives me other channels with that name. It doesn’t show up since there’s no uploads.

[@ChristopherCobra]

I agree on the reviewer observation - it's bizarre lately. Folks need to deal with the reality that reviews are reviews - not fan speak - and get over it. It's really odd seeing comments turn on a reviewer because they don't agree with every other review out there. It's even wierder that I saw a reviewer apologize for a review the audience didn't agree with and even take the video down. Maybe just stop reviewing products and folks can get their information from the vendor/maker if they are gonna BMW about it.

[@Andrew123Shi]

I love how technical this WAN show was, really brings me back to the good 'ol days (I still love the new WAN shows though)!

[@brandongerman1234567]

A video on how cheaply you can build a starter rig with new parts built around intel's A750 gpu with their new price cuts at 199$ with an upgrade path would be cool. Then maybe make it a show down with equivalent Nvidia and AMD GPU'S.

[@dreadpiratekristo]

OPEN THE N64's! Bring some games. Play on each of the N64's and use every controller in the video. Then clean everything well, put it back in the box, and make sure it all gets to people who will use them. I'll take one. I'm super down to re-learn the controls for Goldeneye.

[@nahuelcutrera]

so I live in an area where everyone has a pool basically, I can't believe they are taking so much time and making that amount of ridiculous problems just to make a pool, It's unbelievable , here you can get a pool done in like less than a month, no problem.

[@haztec.]

This felt like a WAN show from like 2015 with the janky setup and poor audio - I love it

[@CanIHasThisName]

We really need more people to start talking about what's been going on in a notable part of the audience around reviews for quite some time now, and not just reviews but also various issues (like the Asus thing recently) where people seem to be interested more in the drama of it than the actual problem. Honestly, it might even be worth it making a dedicated video as it should be talked about generally, not just case-by-case basis. It's like people are expecting reality TV style content and they lose even the last bit of objectivity. My issue with that isn't just the comments but also that this trickles down into hardware advice discussions. We could get to a point where some creators are very specifically building up their content on this, ending up with another userbenchmark like situation where terrible outlets gain prominence.

[@PQED]

Funny you should bring this up, because this is what I've been feeling LMG (or Linus personally) becoming for some time now. Just take the "My facts" and "Your Facts" part of Linus reasoning in this video; first off: It's called an opinion, and although I get that he's tired, he STILL doesn't seem to see the difference between him as a person, LMG, as well as smaller creators (like GN & HUB). And chewing out an employee and basically blaming it on us, the viewers (doesn't matter if that wasn't what he meant, that's the effect)? Screw that. People make mistakes; own yours. I've lost a lot of respect for him over a relatively short time.

[@CanIHasThisName]

@@PQED I'm not seeing what exactly you're actually talking about.

[@PQED]

@@CanIHasThisName Linus is part of the drama; unless I'm misunderstanding your point. He really struggles with understanding why people are calling him a shill I don't think he is, but he does straddle the fence between consumer and corporation all too often, especially now that LMG has basically become one. He says he doesn't want drama, but creates it by creating a "balanced" review of the 4060Ti, which in reality should have been a lot more critical to actually be balanced. It's fine if you don't know what I'm getting at, it's not the only reason I have for my opinion, after all. I've been posting about this for a while (as implied), so I'm not going to drag it all up here.

[@CanIHasThisName]

@@PQED Yeah, you're kinda what I'm talking about. The review was very critical, it's just that now, people are expecting an RTX 4060ti reaction rather than a review.

[@PQED]

@@CanIHasThisName Definitely agree about people looking for reactions; but there was quite a bit they just skimmed over or outright ignored in the review of the 4060Ti (mind you, this isn't the only video I've been critical of, much less Linus' attitude towards consumers in general on WAN show at times), which only a select few outlets actually touched on (GN & HUB would be the most prominent, with GNs reviews mostly being the gold standard in my opinion - routinely showing that they genuinely care about us consumers). But I think we both want the same thing: More facts, and much less drama. Ideally none, but that may be difficult to attain with companies like nVidia constantly stirring the pot.

[@armarr]

I feel like as a community we should refer to the company as Yvonne Media Group. Just to balance things out

[@Crokto]

i think at this point, dedicated viewers know that yvonne is at least as responsible for the success of lmg as anybody else. sucks to hear that credit doesnt always get split appropriately, but i hope she knows we appreciate what she does

[@costafilh0]

SIM racing maybe not huge compared to gaming in general. But compared to Motorsport it is getting HUGE and is WAY more affordable, accessible and obviously safer. If you are any good at it, you can literally race F1 racers and other legends of the sport. It is amazing. I'm away from it for some years now because of personal reasons and I miss it so much! Want to get back to it as soon as possible. Mark my words, there will be a LMG channel just for SIM racing in the future.

[@dwaynebo]

Gears & Gasoline did a video on sim racing just this week. kzbin.info/www/bejne/honOpYSbrs-YjMU

[@costafilh0]

Linus: I'm not a car guy! Also Linus: I drive a Taycan and want a GR Corolla! It is super cool, manual transmission, I really want one. lol You maybe not the average car guy, but you definitely are a car guy and a bike guy and anything with an engine and a motor guy. Tell me I'm wrong! Personally I feel the same.

[@AAllinsonNN]

Thought he just drove the taycan, never actually purchased or had it long term. He mentioned in a video the other day Yvonne’s minivan is more expensive than his car, which was quite standard

[@jackielinde7568]

I'll be honest. Being transparent with the Mac Address channel is the best route. Yeah, not happy to hear they're "playing ball" with Apple, but since I don't use Apple products where possible, I don't have any skin in that game. It's up to people using Apple products to decide if they want their reviews and news about Apple stuff to be tempered with "Apple Corp Expectations."

[@xBruceLee88x]

Yay! It's the Tai-WAN show!

[@costafilh0]

Corolla GR approved! Great Segway into our new CAR CHANNEL!

[@anewbimproves5622]

I can understand having pristine in-box items for archival or museum purposes, but even then you only need a small number of those items and the rest only have the value that the market assigns them.

[@Maximum_Nova]

LTT can y'all do a video on corrupted bios and what to do? Going over things like q-flash plus and whatever is equivalent for other brands, and also showing how to desolder a bios, put it in a bios programmer, and then flash a bios and resolder? that would be pretty cool

[@vascovalente3929]

The LTT twins sharing an umbilical cord.

[@0Rookie0]

My SO is a veterinarian. A DOCTOR, a certified, hard working, good at her job, doctor. She gets comments all the time. Whether it's "when/where did you graduate" to remarks that stem from creepy can't-keep-it-to-themselves thoughts. Yvonne is in a position weak men can't comprehend. A pioneer, like many women who are in a field where in the far, far past it wasn't a thing. So whether it's in the background or upfront and in uniform, misogyny and rude comments about careers is unavoidable. Modern mindsets will prevail one day but for now we still have to deal with people who grew up in a bubble that comes from their great grand pappy from the horrible past. It's even worse down south in the states here (or any rural area really..) and even EVEN worse over seas in the countries who haven't caught up yet. (*cough*eastern Europe*cough*) It's actually mind boggling.

[@jkm4505]

I've missed WAN-Shows like this. Just luke and linus. I love Dan and everyone else but this just feels more calmer and maybe even "personal"?

[@Sam-xl6xc]

Thanks for your commitment to the consumers! It’s really cool to see how you use your resources as a company. Very inspiring, a great contrast to many other companies you hear about.

[@BotherRed]

Kind of funny to watch L'n'L react to their mics being cut off in real time.

[@costafilh0]

Very disappointed with Computex. Basically 50% enterprise 50% cosmetics. I want the cool stuff that I can actually wrap my brain around with my limited knowledge.

[@antraxbeta23]

This is the perfect time for Intel to wake up , and make decent GPU's with good drivers

[@theartworker9643]

Luke at 2:52:43 - I'm looking at Linus to see his reaction to my excellent wordplay. Linus - I'll continue talking, unaware, as I'm concentrating on the topic I have in my head and need to get it out before I forget. (I do the same) Luke - Oh well, he didn't hear me, on with the show... He's my best friend and one of his many Linus-isms I shall always treasure. Love the show... as always ❤😃😃👍

[@XenHat]

09:17 I remember the i7 4790K being one of the first consumer cpus to have a proper virtualization stack with no essential features cut

[@pradyumnac]

I still have a 4690k and use it for a VM

[@McFlubberpants]

Taking the time to make sure contract work is done right is important. I’ve had to fix the poor work of bad contractors for my parents several times now. The biggest one being the gravel driveway that was put in. I pointed out that they hadn’t compacted it properly and that it was going to fall apart. Lo and behold, it completely fell apart and now I’m fixing it. I do not work in construction. I am not a contractor. I’m over here, shooting from the hip and am doing a better job at it than professionals and it’s making me upset.

[@AdrianVM19]

Re: the N64 thing. I say do it. I agree with Luke that there's no value in them remaining boxed. I have 2 N64s (a black one and a clear green one) and I use them both occasionally. I gotta admit the controllers are pretty bad by now, but it feels better knowing that they are being enjoyed, rather than to be displayed in a box.

[@junkotamiya]

I was originally interested in this passive cooling case, but after hearing Linus talk about how Calyos already scammed people on Kickstarter and not wanting to refund people their money for cases that were never delivered, I find myself not wanting to support Calyos now and no longer have any interest in buying this new case.

[@Effeindi]

3:21:20 I think something we'll going to regret wanting as tech community will be subscription services for games (game pass, playstation plus, etc). I see them killing stand-alone games like streaming services did to DVDs/blurays and then keep asking more and more while providing less and less when they'll have a de facto nonopoly on distribution. The netflix story-arc

[@CanIHasThisName]

It's a very different situation. The gaming industry is ahead of the movie industry in terms of distribution. So it can't be assumed that the problems we're seeing with movies will reflect later in gaming and if anything, the gaming industry has had some of the same issues, they just ended being resolved differently. This whole issue is less about subscriptions, and more about the shift from physical distribution to digital. Most people want digital, we've been seeing this shift over the past two decades. But the movie industry has been resisting this shift. It's not that they killed DVD/Bluray with subscriptions, it's that people have been moving away from physical and subscriptions ended up being the only compelling, legitimate digital option. Relative to when people were ready for digital, the gaming industry has had a compelling digital option extremely early. When people started to realize they'd be better off downloading a game, Steam was there, ready to take their money and provide a good service. The movie/TV industry needed digital much earlier, but has failed to implement a consumer-friendly system at a point when a huge part of the audience was already actively looking for a digital alternative. People obviously found it; piracy. As Gabe Newell said, piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem. And you know what's going to happen as all these streaming services keep getting worse and worse? That's right, more people will look for a more convenient way of getting the content they want, and for most content it's gonna be piracy. The movie/TV segment started accepting digital too late and instead of addressing the old issues, they insisted on keeping a lot of them and created new ones in the process. Services like Netflix providing less is a consequence of these issues and the relatively sudden realization of the movie industry that they can't really resist digital because consumers are going to get it one way or the other. Now, everyone wants their own streaming service, but the cost of running the service isn't necessarily proportional to how much content it offers. So the prices are going up while the content keeps getting split between more and more services. And of course, the music segment would be another topic. The way music is distributed now (KZbin, Spotify and such) is actually amazing for consumers, but the music segment was effectively forced into it by tech companies as it failed to establish a compelling digital distribution on their own terms and this segment in particular absolutely NEEDED digital distribution before anyone else, even before books. Now they're not exactly happy with the money they're getting out of it, but tough shit because the consumer habits have shifted so far they're just not going back no matter what they do. If the movie industry doesn't figure out their shit, someone else is going to figure it out for them and they'll be in the same boat as music.

[@lars2498]

when the audio cut i thought my PC was corrupted again lmao!

[@randomviewer3494]

Linus, if you can't beat that sock manufacturer, would you consider doing a collab with them or even just reselling their socks on the ltt store?

[@Forty8-Forty5-Fifty8]

shout out to the 4 customers that are keeping all these companies in business

[@TheFallingFlamingo]

I'd assume that if you were going to space for a prolonged time, hopefully it's after a point where we've established some kind of basing on other planets. It'd be cool to go to a Martian resort or spend a couple days soaking up radioactive rays by the pool at the lunar surface hotel.

[@NinjaKirikoJedi]

Love the taipei 101 in the background XD

[@ljcool17]

I miss the old WAN show back in the day at CES. When a lot of popular tech youtubers were playing pool at the background

[@hothhead5677]

2:55:00 Watching this after WWDC and it's super funny hearing Linus speculating that the 1st gen Apple Headset being a Dev Kit with consumer pricing while its $3500

[@myfakeaccount4523]

Good episode, I am changing my opinion of Linus to a more positive light. Business is business and I like a person who sticks to his principles. Great show of integrity and senerity.

[@matthouse99]

Senility? Linus isn't -that- old.

[@CivixAi]

Best part of the wan show was easily where luke and linus went silent and we heard dan toiling away to fix it. Wan show 2023 highlight

[@sammy-qd1oi]

I reckon that steam OS might take advantage of the new features more (like sleep during gaming)

[@MechThumbs]

That’s what I’m saying linux will probably do it first. I suspect that pop os might be doing it with the new cosmic desktop