"It's TOO Simplistic!" Dan Bardell INSISTS Mikel Arteta SHOULDN'T Be Judged On Trophies!

[@johnd6913]

Brummie talking so much sense i had to double take i was still listening to talksport

[@danbardell8616]

Im going to choose to take this as a compliment to me 😂

[@Yamal_TheNewKing]

Trophies are too simplistic?? No wonder Arsenal is a small club

[@Oracle1221-d8p]

Yes he should, trophies are literally the aim of the sport.

[@El-Rattled]

It's the aim for top clubs, especially Arsenal

[@willc6434]

@Oracle1221-d8p Why did Ten Haag get sacked then? If you base it purely on trophies, in the 2 seasons he was at United, he won 2 trophies. Only Pep did better than that.. by your measure, Ten Haag was a better manager than Klopp. Do you believe Ten Haag was a better manager than Klopp during his time at United?

[@El-Rattled]

@@willc6434 statistically going further down the league table reduces your chance of winning trophies. That's why he got the boot. If it were guaranteed he won Europa League but finished 13th the club would boot him but I would keep him

[@willc6434]

@@El-Rattled yes, but he was the anomaly, united went down the league and still won trophies. Do you think he deserved to be sacked when he did, after winning 2 trophies in 2 years?

[@raycarlbrown-amory3509]

So it ok to judge utd managers on trophies but not Artea 😂😂😂

[@willc6434]

That's not what he said 🤦🏼he said if you judge the united manager just on trophies, it's deceiving, because they win 2 trophies in 2 years, but they were a terrible outfit who absolutely stunk the league out. Listen to what he said 😂🤦🏼

[@EITCHS87]

Too funny this fanbase they love arteta more than the club lol it’s a simple fact in all sports winner get trophies and that how much you judge success at the club

[@elcapitan9532]

Community shield is a damn trophy imo

[@Lowkey_AFC]

In your opinion lol so spurs also have trophies than according to you because they’ve won Audi cups multiple times

[@Lowkey_AFC]

They both friendly matches btw so what’s the difference?

[@elcapitan9532]

@ lol…that’s low, comparing Audi cup to the community shield, Emirates Cup is bigger than Audi cup respectfully

[@PedroNeves-hm5xm]

from invincible's to gassing up community shields... 🤣🤣🤣

[@El-Rattled]

It's a major trophy, but I don't count any supercups including club world cup. The charity bit doesn't help either

[@micksfishes4352]

That's literally his job as a manager to win trophys lol

[@slyarsenal]

And he's officially won 3 whether people like it or not. He didn't take over a team as Slot inherited. Arteta had to rebuild the team from the ground up whilst constantly being doubted for his lack of experience. Challenging in the past 2 seasons shows just how far he's taken Arsenal who weren't even in the CL. Progressipon takes time, but we're heading in the right direction. Trophies will come. Don't seek the destination, if you can't handle the journey

[@willc6434]

Why did Ten Haag get sacked then? By your measure, Ten Haag did an outstanding job at United, 2 trophies in 2 seasons. Do you think Ten Haag did a great job?

[@raphaelfrank6370]

Sad thing is he actually thinks he’s won 3 trophies.

[@Kite1001RideorDie]

Arsenal are the 3rd 4th place place team for at least as long as i can remember

[@TheAussieEz]

The only trophy he won is with the non serious team then! So he molded a team that doesn’t win. Doesn’t make sense !😂

[@tommitchell525]

Community shield is a glorified friendly.

[@Yamal_TheNewKing]

Supercopa in LaLiga is a 2-stage tournament.. Besides that it holds some prestige in LaLiga just like Italian super cup and DFP super cup.. Only pReMieR leAguE haven't held their super cup with prestige becuz of their ego

[@Bert-lw1ot]

Jesus mate, you seriously need to see someone. I think you’ve got a genuine problem…you can’t go 10 minutes without talking bow locks in a comment!

[@El-Rattled]

It's still Mickey mouse. If brokelona ever found themselves winning a club world cup you'd put it on the same level as the actual world cup

[@PedroNeves-hm5xm]

they may do for Barca because they win nothing but you'll never catch Madrid celebrating a supercopa

[@PedroNeves-hm5xm]

No problem just don't be calling Arsenal a big club no more if they cant be judged on trophies...

[@El-Rattled]

3 years since Chelsea last won a trophy btw

[@PedroNeves-hm5xm]

@@El-Rattled yeah whats wrong with that its been 5 for Arsenal and 20 since their last league embarrassing numbers...

[@atikurrahman9304]

You won't find a more stupid take.

[@andrewelliott5154]

If you win the cup or league before, its a trophy... if you're 2nd behind a double winning team, it doesn't count