It's TRUE...Overlanding Is A SCAM

[@MrJeffwards]

“Overlanding” does indeed expose people having more money than sense.

[@happychefx]

it is literally called car camping....been around since before station wagons.

[@AlecBig]

I don't agree. People waste lots of money on all kinds of ridiculous hobbies. Building a truck out to be kinda like a survival rig isn't really a waste of money, in my opinion. If anything, it's made me a person who thinks more about preparedness, especially in these un sure times with the election comming and what not. So I'm pretty glad even if the truck doesn't help in every scenario, it has changed my mindset in just wanting to be more prepared for more than just overlanding/exploring. Also, it puts me in a good mood every time I see my truck. So ya, not really a waste of money... Your truck looks great too btw.

[@Thergood]

I hear this kind of stuff all the time. I don't think there is anyone out there that believes you need a $100,000 rig to "overland." I can't see someone thinking to themselves "Man, I would really really love to go camping, but I can't afford tens of thousands of dollars in gear and vehicle upgrades, so I'll just sit here and do nothing." Seem like being contrarian, "I'm cool for going against the trend" nonsense. It's one thing to be against the consumerism, overland tax, and shillery that's rampant out there in the overland industry. It's another to tell people they're wrong for building out rigs just for weekend trips. There are lots of hobbies that you can enjoy with the bare minimum, but people still spend extraordinary amounts of time and money on them because they can, and it's fun. You can ride trails on the weekend with a $250 bike from Walmart, but people still spend thousands on quality bikes. No one is saying they're wrong for buying them, and they should just stick with the $250 bike because they're not a downhill racer. That's kind of what hobbies are.

[@erik1tennant]

This is such a great take. I agree and I think these videos have some good points but they don’t really add up as a cohesive idea. Hobbies really are just about doing what you love, and money just grants you access to things that make it better. You shouldn’t call people out for enjoying it in either manner. Skiing, biking, cars, boats, you name it, people can share a hobby despite some having equipment that improves the experience or gives extra capability.

[@BBombsBigAdventure]

I think where 208Tyler lost me was by stating that it "isn't a hobby"... I mostly say I adventure or explore (and youtube it) but who is anybody to tell me what my hobby is? If I want to say driving around checking out cool stuff in my jeep is overlanding and it's my hobby then he can just accept it. If he wants to say he needs more to make it a hobby for him... cool. We all need to just quit worrying about labels and go do cool stuff.

[@archstanton3636]

I "overland" a few times a year, but not way I'm adding all that stuff to my rig to rot in the sun the rest of the time.

[@mp-xt2rg]

Why would you want to live in a little tent full time? That's just nuts

[@Meech_CV]

I'm feeling this more and more. I originally bought my Tacoma to build it out and go overlanding, but 2 years in i've come to the realization that I live in Wisconsin with little to no public land. The Upper Peninsula is the closest I can get to some real wheeling and disperse camping. Everything else out west or east is a 10+ hour drive. Still love my Tacoma, but only going out on a dedicated wheeling trip 2-3 times a year steered me away from spending an extra 10s of thousands of dollars to add onto the truck. I am just building it more "OEM+" now and happy with the way it sits.

[@thebigempty_5792]

Same thing here in Texas - virtually everything is private land with very little Federal grasslands with free camping areas.

[@kaosactual1]

Overlanding is just driving to go complete or accomplish another goal. Like camping, relic hunting, fishing, Mountain biking, hunting. You're just driving. Simple. People do as you wish. Overlanding is a marketing tool. All hobbies have this problem. Companies making money off of this idea sell this to you. Hunting as example. You need this set of camo at $800, this rifle and scope at $1600, these boots at $500. It all bull. Not to say these aren't great products. And not to say there are budget friendly options out there that are just as good or comparable. Fact is, you don't need them. You want them because the company sold you this idea and now you want to look cool or official and part of the crowd. They use influencers and commercials and marketing to sell you these products and make you believe you need this to complete this task or to really enjoy your experience. Then there is the community pressure. Having the name brand, or not having something at all, you get looked down on or judged. This is just a fact. And there are some aholes that fully believe you just aren't an "overland" or fill in the hobby, unless you have this product. And they make it known. Our ancestors used damn covered wagons to cross the Rockies.

[@Coyotezr2]

its just a way to charge more. Normal company 'here is this battery that can charge your phone" price $10.99 Overland company "here is this overland battery that can charge your phone' price $60.99

[@lunamaria1048]

I use to overland in a 5th gen 4Runner, with just a single size DeepSleep air mattress that was made to contour to the back of the 4Runner, on either side (with therear seats folded down), food and drink, and a portable battery generator to charge my phone and tablet and run my heated blanket on cold nights. That's all I ever needed lol, and I have driven across Canada, from Vancouver, British Columbia, to Halifax, Nova Scotia (and back), like that lol. The only mods on my 4Runner was a Magnuson Supercharger (for improved highway performance), and a set of KO2s. I now have a new GX 550 Overtrail, and need a new sleeping solution. You only need a stock vehicle and essentials lol. Good video!

[@real_skux]

When I was growing up camping in your car was something poor people used to do.

[@rayrenz3599]

With the amount of debt most of the “overlanders” accumulate, it probably still holds true to this day.

[@timmcconnell1776]

It's just camping. Why it's called Overlanding these days still baffles my mind. Offroaders, Jeepers etc have been doing this since the vehicles were made 😂 It's just camping, or call it a camping trip. Either way, get out and enjoy the outdoors whatever you call it.

[@scottfergusson8411]

Better to have it and not need it ….. than to need it and not have it !

[@ModernDayViking]

That's very true!

[@jamespostle6894]

to an extent. You only need so much and too much gear is not only a waste of money but also space and payload.

[@christophervillalta2006]

Don't listen to those haters about how you use your truck! Everyone has their own hobby and outlet! You could come up New England...Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine.

[@HBManPon]

You have to sleep where you park. How is that camping? Get a camper at that point.

[@thecryptidsden]

I "overland" in my crawler but I tent camp. Everything is in some totes in the back and gets offloaded and camp set up so I can explore be it on foot or in my rig

[@Haytifdad]

Its not the size of your rig; its how you use it!😂

[@OverlandCalling]

I agree with overlanding being more about longer trips. I also kind of see it as a combination of multiple activities that make it into overlanding because otherwise it does not clearly fit anywhere else. It is way more catchy than “Adventure travel camping”.

[@DearSX]

This and Tylers' video help clear things up a bit. I own a minivan and plenty I can do to enjoy the outdoors with it and my bike and family. Like we did a 3 day 110 mile trip and parked our minivan at a lot on the trail.

[@tomcolls9264]

2022 forester, box with my kitchen gear, a double swag and an annex. Works fo me

[@ModernDayViking]

I would love to do a Forester build and see if I miss taking the Tacoma out

[@mrco555]

I have a $12k truck with $2k of gear. It's just like modifying cars, the mods are rarely worth their costs. It fulfills a "feel good" aspect.

[@Lonewolf00003]

Just one question. Why does it matter to us if other people do or do not buy gear?

[@ModernDayViking]

That's a great question and actually the premise of a video I'm making this week haha. I like to make videos like this to show people you can do it on a budget

[@djb1634]

Can’t overland in Texas either all land is either privately owned and what isn’t privately owned is catered to large travel trailers only.

[@thebigempty_5792]

Most real overlanding is in other countries where it is genuinely vehicle dependent travel with extended periods between cities/resources. Expedition Overland/4XOverland/Itchy Boots (motorcycle overlander) and many others in Australia, Africa, South America are the real deal. As someone that likes to buy crap for my 15 Tundra, I'm as guilty as the next guy suffering with what I call, "STUFFITUS". It's always the next gadget or thing. I've really scaled back and learned from my mistakes. Now, before buying anything, I always ask, "What problem does this solve"? Does this purchase fall into necessity or just vanity (bronze wheels HAHA) Or did I buy those Method wheels truly because of the "Bead Lock" feature allowing me to air down more, or just because I like the design. I'm in Texas, I can barely find legal dirt roads to travel that aren't privately owned. It's just my dog and I, so do I really need that 270 awning? I have the Garmin Inreach that talks to my Ipad with the mapping stuff, but I'm rarely ever anywhere that makes it necessary. It's all out of my truck. If I go hiking somewhere or feel the need, I will re activate it for that time. I think we all get inspired by the yt content creators and feel like we have to have it all. I rarely get to enjoy it as I'm in the middle of the DFW area and the closest thing to remote for me is Oklahoma. You've made some really valid points and we just need to be honest with ourselves and what "overlanding" really means. For must of us, it's just car camping.

[@calgreco8607]

You are right. As I get older, I still wanted to try a RTT. No musty smell from bed rug and camper top etc. I have a new 23 TRD or but I am not spending 20k on suspension, bumpers and wheels! I think roof racks are a terrible idea in North America, so I am building a semi camper top so my RTT does not extend over cab. I think this will be great for Nascar events, KOA traveling instead of motels and camping/fishing.

[@adamlichman1181]

I disagree that it's not its own hobby. For myself anyway, I enjoy hitting tough trails, blackberry pass, I want to hit up the Rubicon etc. I live in iowa so none of the good ones are close. That being said the road trip and seeing the countryside is 75 percent of the joy of overlanding. I actually call them adventure rod trips. There may be a trail or destination at the end, but as I said the trip and scenery is most of the point. As far as gear, start with whT you have and dd equipment as you go that make the adventure more enjoyable for you. Not everybody needs the same gear. That's how I acquired the gear I have anyway. Most of the things I ha e purchased were after a "disastrous part of a trip"

[@marc-andrebenoit5776]

The only thing rooftop tent are better for it keeping critters out where dangerous critter crawls. Other than that ? Flood hazard area maybe but it's not safe anyway to camp near a flooding area. Reliable, simple and efficient is what you need. No need to get a engineering degree for overlanding 😂

[@chrissyfrey8999]

Great video. Love your honesty.

[@poutous1]

I’ve been car camping for most of my life… I love exploring trails, some of which are a little hairy or technical. I admit I’ve sunk some money into my dedicated (2nd) vehicle but it’s been upgraded and built up over a long period of time. Not sure if it’s ‘over landing’, but I do like making my vehicle more capable and, yes, I do like the beefy look of a built out Offroad vehicle.

[@Redial2416]

Truer words have never been spoken 😊

[@Ash13ley100]

Great video as always! ❤

[@donays8241]

Me gusta tu taco. Have you driven manual transmission 4gen? Any differences?

[@Mark_L40]

It’s a means to get to other activities; fishing, mtn biking, hiking, photography, etc.

[@calgreco8607]

I thought Overlanding was different from truck/car camping by the fact that you're going actually offroad! Places a standard truck or car or Camper could not go. My Trd OR is stock and I'm building a custom platform for an RTT . Racks make no sense in North America unless you live in Southwest maybe? My set up is more for KOA's and Nascar Tracks regular camping without trailering.

[@wilyceyote]

You’re right about overlanding KZbin creators like to hype it up but in reality it’s a joke because Reality of overlanding they are some dark sides that you need to know about before you do it because I’ve been there and done that

[@dadventuretv2538]

I built my rig around mountain biking also. It’s designed first and foremost as a mountain bike carrier and place to sleep while doing so. I’ve always loved just wandering and exploring, especially by vehicle and offroad, long, long before the term overlanding was even a thing in this country. I also like to wheel a bit which is why I have the rig I do built the way it is- Rausch Creek, AOAA, Wolf Den and all the local trails in our area of the Appalachians. 100% agree though with you and other guy’s vid. Check out Davis and Thomas WV if you have not yet. I also just did a great 75 miles forest service road trip on my way to Snowshoe- starts just past Seneca Rocks and hit’s Spruce Knob, WV’s highest point, goes by the Sinks of Gandy (mile long underground creek you can explore) and then through beautiful forest and ends at Cass WV. I have a bunch of vids on my channel of some of the places I’ve been and I can give you the route to Snowshoe if you are interested. 🤙

[@ModernDayViking]

We love Davis and Thomas area. We go down about twice a year. Such a beautiful area. We usually do a weekend trip when the leaves start to change in the fall.

[@TheFriskyClicker]

I don't even see overlanding has anything to do with camping. Overlanding is about driving and exploring remote areas. You can get through remotes areas in 10 hours and get into a hotel afterwards. Overlanding is overlanding, and camping is camping. Most just combine it.

[@chrisfrey5905]

People are gonna get pissy