It’s worth it for these people?! RTX 4080 Review for AI, 3D, VFX, Photo and Video Editing, Streaming

[@DanDoesGame]

Literally the only one that goes over the creative side of things...... appreciate that man, we dont need 100 million gaming benchmarks 🤣

[@pokepress]

Would also appreciate more AI benchmarks-ESRGAN upscaling, perhaps?

[@ColvictorTHEOFFICIALPSBOY]

😂

[@paulct91]

5:20 - RTX 4090, twice was that intentional non-OC VS OC?

[@genogains3126]

Very true! Thank God we have EposVox, he has our back.

[@downtownraw2676]

Tech Notice also does benchmarks for creators

[@WunjoxFlo]

The 4080 is so expensive in Europe (1700€ in France) that the 3090/3090ti are a way better value at the moment Nvidia is pushing the limit too hard. The 3080 was 800€, they doubled the price...

[@SlavaBagmut]

Nvidia should be renamed to Ngreedia

[@mysticqro950]

I’m confused. Why would you want to pay more for a 3090/3090ti when the 4080 over-performs it in games and even video editing benchmarks? Why are you desperate for that “24gb vram”?

[@AtfSucks-gov]

4080 runs way better than the 3080ti I have both. And the 4080 has way more fps in most games. Rust is the only game where they are identical. But that’s a cpu based game so I’d exspect that.

[@Tmtrnr]

@@SlavaBagmutyeah it’s nvidias fault scalpers and the fact the EU tax it’s insane

[@joantonio6331]

Quand je dis que la France c'est cher.... C'est literalement le prix d'un 4090

[@choppergirl]

I ended up sniping a 4070 for $275. It's over kill for all my gaming . It's fun rendering AI images with Fooocuss but it's not like I'm making any money ever with it. How do I justify spending $1200 for a 4080...

[@sergyxyz]

Was it a second hand gpu?

[@choppergirl]

@@sergyxyz Yeah, ebay. EVGA FTW3 3070. EVGA had the best rap. But they've closed shop because of a falling out with Nvidia. Still, one hell of an awesome card and over built for fans. Overclocked to 2160mghz on GPUCPU (from like 1900) and 8400mghz on RAM (from 7000mghz) totally stable run pegged at 100% for hours generating AI images locally. Sexy card but one heck of a big brick of a beast; installing a big modern GPU today really is a major PITA, esp. if you have to do like I did while blind.

[@choppergirl]

@@sergyxyz kzbin.info/www/bejne/bZa3iZJ7oLSolaM

[@XIMCentral]

Thanks for showing us the important benchmarks for the creative side, barely anyone does that! :)

[@technicolourmyles]

Just a little suggestion for the graphs - you have the legend show white for bars that are actually green. The result text is white, but this is still a confusing mismatch I run into trying to read the graphs.

[@cainzjussYT]

its interesting how you can tell if the YT video is in AV1 or VP9 ... idk if it has a "look" to it... just better quality overall .. or better frame times that land precisely on the spot

[@LB_]

It's great to see new GPUs getting good AV1 support, though I wonder when we'll see mobile phone SoCs get AV1 decode support, as that'll really turn the tides. Maybe some already have and I haven't been paying attention, that would be cool.

[@kognak6640]

Mediatek Dimensity 1000-series and 9000-series have AV1 decoder. So does Samsung Exynos 2100/2200. Qualcomm should introduce support next year. But all these are flagship SoCs. Android 14 is supposed to require AV1 decoder so probably in 2023-24 we see adoption rate to increase.

[@zoqin]

would you be able to be this kind of review for AMD gpu ? video editing and 3D is really important to me and I'm wondering if AMD will improve this gen Thanks anyway

[@EposVox]

Assuming I get samples

[@adarshwhynot]

Many of 3d renderers such as octane , vray, redshift, Arnold use CUDA so AMD and Intel GPUs won't even run those apps sadly

[@Odyseuss08]

im generally impressed how the 3080 keeps in a lot of disciplines when u consider the 2nd hand market price its a bargain. on the other hand with the 3090: how can it bet that a 3080 exports 4K in H264 33 seconds faster then a 3090? can somebody explain that to me? i guess i skip that generation and keep my 3090 till GEN5 and then get a 5080.

[@KillerwinsGaming]

Do you have a video on recording/streaming set up for a single stream PC using a 4090/80?

[@Smash_ter]

how are you doing av1? is it on the paid version or the free version too?

[@EposVox]

I believe it’s on the free version too, but I haven’t checked.

[@fourwheelerjock]

What did you do to upload 8K60 for youtube? I got some video clips in 8K60 and ot refuses to show up in 8K60. Only in 4K60. Ive tried both H.264 and H.265 codecs

[@timharrell9437]

I bought a RTX 4080 for AI work. But I can't get it in my HPZ 820 workstation. What kind of box are you guys using with 4080 ?

[@FlyingShoe]

Would you be able to do a re-visit for the Intel Arc series since they've had a bunch of driver updates?

[@shaharremets]

Thank you so much! we need more of it! (also, please please include DxO PureRaw benchmarks)

[@rurutuM]

Nvidia screwed up the release strategy on this generation. they should have released 4080 16 and 12 gb, not announce the, 4090 drop that at CES.

[@omarhazem123]

Why don't you have 3090Ti in your comparisons ! would be really helpful if i could know where it stands in these charts. Kinda stuck between buying 3090Ti or 4080 for 3Dmax V-ray renderer.

[@EposVox]

Because I don't have one or access to one, because it was one of the worst possible values you could possibly buy at launch and I'm not made of money lol Though from everything I've seen in performance scaling from other reviews, it beats the 3090ti too - plus all the new tech.

[@omarhazem123]

@@EposVox Seems like an obvious choice to go with 4080 seeing how close it is to the 4090 although it's 300 euros cheaper to buy the 3090Ti here in Germany

[@silverbulletin846]

@@omarhazem123 to add to that logic why not the 4090 then? its only 3-400euro more then the 4080 if you really use only for 3d for alot more %

[@omarhazem123]

@@silverbulletin846 Yess that could be the ultimate option for me as i need also a lot of vram. I would go with 4090 but maybe in a couple of months till prices cool down a bit.

[@silverbulletin846]

@@omarhazem123 yea if it do, theres alot of FOMO around gettting a 4090 tho and when sold out idont think a price reduction is on the table, could be wrong

[@StYfReX]

Unlucky to see that 4080 struggles with 8k. Im moving to 8k in the coming months... Its nice to see that you do this "different" test compared to other people so we have a better picture of how it performs in important tasks

[@a.b.c.d.e]

lol come on ... 8k is 4x the pixels of 4k ... it will take another two GPU generations until anything might master 8k comfortably

[@StYfReX]

@@a.b.c.d.e Im not even talking about gaming, LMAO. Im taking about video editing work. The 16gb of the 4080 its the limiter here, thats why i said "unlucky" I already bought a 4090 and no problems :d

[@a.b.c.d.e]

@@StYfReX haha ok misunderstanding, my bad ... have been doing amateur 6K VR180 editing myself with 3060, will be interesting to see how that evolves once 8k VR180 cameras arrive at amateur level.

[@neti_neti_]

@Sebastian Lara how is your RTX4090 working in 8k editing in Adobe Premier pro , any crash ? do you think if 4090 had 32GB vram the price would had been justified ?

[@RetroBusker]

How about editing the new 8k features on s24 ultra & the Sports cameras GoPro (13?) DJI ect... my 2070 super on editing software will crash at more than 3 mins of 8k30/4k120/5.3K 60... would be very interested if you made video on how it performs with them video powers compared to RTX 4090 AND RTX 2070 SUPER....If I upgraded everything will my 32INCH 4k monitor be fine editing 8k with the 4090, or will it crash and need a 8k monitor?

[@EposVox]

If it’s crashing, that’s a problem with the software or it not liking the codec. New GPU won’t necessarily fix that, and your monitor is not relevant to the problem. Definitely don’t need an 8K monitor

[@RetroBusker]

@@EposVox hmm every1 says this... however the 1000£ laptop i got in 2016 struggled with 4k related anything, while in 2020 my 2300£ RTX 2070super edited 4k with same software butter smooth

[@EposVox]

@@RetroBusker performance and crashing are two completely different things. and if everyone is telling you the same thing, it would be time to listen

[@RetroBusker]

@@EposVox 96% of people are dumb sheep tho😂

[@tristen_grant]

The 4090 is almost $3,000 on Amazon Canada and the 4080 is $1,700. 😭

[@토리멍]

Is RTX4080 12gb better than RTX3080Ti 12 gb? I'm considering it for 3d animation in blender or cinema 4d.

[@sergserg8679]

Great, very helpful and informative video! What version of the 3080 is used in the tests?

[@EposVox]

Founder’s Edition

[@fizzy2241]

thank you for this video. the benchmark i want to see.

[@HoomanBhr]

Great review thank you. also please compare these cards with "chaos vantage " rendering which is a gpu based engine from vray group

[@neti_neti_]

Very good video this is exactly what i was searching for ( video editing not gaming ) , at this price 4090 should have 32GB VRAM not 24GB .

[@nightdonutstudio]

I am wondering under what application even 24gb vram will start to see slow down? Just curious.

[@neti_neti_]

@@nightdonutstudio video editing with lots of effect and layers.

[@adarshwhynot]

great performance, bad pricing

[@joemarais7683]

Nvidia’s gonna steal this for their marketing on the RTX $5000 series

[@Mango-rl2yg]

hoping that AMD can improve their gpu's performance in productivity areas (7900 gre)

[@jetfu400]

Yes finally! A review not about gaming!

[@keanulouis]

Please add CaptureOne as photo editing benchmark

[@Boostedbeard]

Should we creators hold for the 7s AMD encoder improvements?

[@EposVox]

Certainly responsible to wait

[@hassanpainter3d]

Hi.. can I add it to HP z840? thanks

[@b.a.g2073]

You find out the answer to this?

[@pehdrew]

wow! The new Dual-Encoder really delivers! I hope see that beauty in streaming soon!

[@N0N0111]

Chart has double 4090 for object masking.

[@wyattzx]

That's my bad, I double-checked all of the graphs before sending them off but made a mistake or two. Most were corrected but this was unfortunately not caught. Luckily, both cards perform the same in that slide, and the highlight is correct for the 4080.

[@rn.s9]

Interested to see comparison of these dual nvidia encoders vs amd Rx 7000 new encoders

[@EposVox]

Trying my best to get my hands on them

[@sidesketch]

I'm pretty sure streaming services won't support AV1 native ingest any time soon (mostly because real time encoding issues and hardware costs add up). I'm sure they'll re-encode the H.264 ingest into AV1 at some point via transcoding (at the expense of extra stream delay between streamer / viewer), but you deal with the same hardware-related issue, which is real-time AV1 decoding. This works a lot better for VOD platforms/ content (such as YT), yet again, you'd need supported hardware to match it. Even these AV1 encoded videos uploaded to YT, are being re-encoded to VP9, which only makes it "usable" for the users with capable hardware, for storage purposes. On a side note (pun totally intended), are you using a new software for the benchmark graphs? They look pretty smooth 👍🏻

[@EposVox]

Real-time decoding is a nonissue. Especially for most streams being 1080p or 720p. KZbin is ramping up their hardware encoding pipeline and has been for years. They’re definitely getting ready for streaming. Twitch originally had a roadmap for it for by early 2023 but their engineers on that side have changed so it’s unclear where they stand atm I have an awesome assistant editor Wyatt making the graphs now. They rule :)

[@sidesketch]

@@EposVox Oh, but AV1 decoding is still an issue for users who aren't sitting on a 30 Series+ GPU and many users are forced sometimes to disable hardware acceleration in their browsers / systems to make other functions work properly or get rid of video/audio sync issues. Intel's SVT-AV1 libraries are supported on 5th Gen+ chips, but the performance hit is quite substantial. I've only tested it on my old 8086K chip, and AV1 decoding can demand up to 25% more CPU usage, compared to other codecs. Could be a good video idea, if you had chips around from 8-9th Gen and forward, and see the AV1 decoding performance hit, compared to AVC/VP9 on streamlined platforms. Also, kuddos to Whyatt 👍

[@Deznere]

I'd wait until 7900XT and XTX come out... If their new encoder is actually substantial. It already potentially surpasses the 4080 in gaming based on leaked benchmarks as well as price (not including RT). Hopefully this AMD and OBS partnership actually means something and AMD has something to match Nvidia broadcast.

[@EposVox]

The AMD “partnership” is mostly marketing fluff. To their credit they are now a Diamond sponsor of OBs, but what they were referring to with the integration was just the encoder update in 28 But I agree.

[@cmoneytheman]

Dont use Artemis people on a 480p video it won't look right it gives a plastic look use proteus only I wish these program's would hurry up with the updates like I use power director and it scales great coming from my old 3930 it used to take 2hr to do a 3k bitrate 8hr video Switching to a monster 12400 it takes 30min with the same stats Topaz I use to for shows still waiting for updates to show a good jump 3.0 is still in beta it should take in theory for a 480 to 720 25min show with monsters like 4080-90 i would think 20-30 min I have a 3080 I would say max for the same 480 25min vid would take 40min instead of 2hr like it does now Hopefully with more updates and adding av1 to topaz should use the rtx fully

[@notremarchedelafin]

Went from 2070 Super to 4070. Quite happy. It's enough for me. I do 1440p max... Everything is a breeze.

[@panzerschreckpete]

The size equation gets even more ridiculous when you cannot access FE models - as AIB cards are usually even more stupidly huge. Given how many people utilise the other PCie slot, the form factor bloat is a significant deterrent.

[@paxandq]

Thx for this 💪🏽📈

[@ShiroCh_ID]

its never goes wrong to get 1 gen older than the lastest model thats why i just bought 3070Ti and yeah im happy with the performence its deliver especially with my last one were GTX 1070Ti(its still a good card,but i need Ai Acceleration RTX has for some of my "research" purpose)

[@dinodash9]

its a very good upgrade

[@dinodash9]

Thanks for doing these tests! It helps people like me, just looking if its worth buying 4080 or 3080 now for editing. Thank you so much.

[@nivea878]

my 4080 gamerock i paid 1398.- here in switzerland

[@sondamvula]

Fab Video, thanks

[@KontrolStyle]

most of us are here 1:56 to get the otherside of graphic card reviews. If you want gaming and heat, you can go else where. I'm happy he's doing something different than the sheep on youtube! Now just add VR and you'll have even more people (maybe :). p.s. DR18 underrated ;)

[@EposVox]

VR is inaccessible to even me right now; I only have the OG Oculus Rift lol

[@KontrolStyle]

@@EposVox ty for reply cheers

[@nedkelly1855]

Totally ridiculous price, 3080 $699 4080 $1199 and won’t fit in my case 7900xtx with new AV1 will be the way to go.

[@pchmm]

NVIDIA shows contempt for their partners, dealers and customer base with these prices. Not that this is anything new from them.

[@JTSuter]

7900xtx all the way!

[@Caseoh_Music]

i feel bad for u

[@choppergirl]

Interesting how grandpa 2080 is kicking everyones a55... I think I'll try and get a 2080

[@LuminousSuperstar]

too much talking and graphs not enough showing stable diffusion speed

[@injectionAI]

take a shot every time someone says content

[@DasLooney]

Unfortunately the ridiculous inexcusable money grab $500 increase in price over the previous generation, the 3080 makes this card a total stinker and should be avoided and universally panned by all! That's over a 70% increase in price by Nvidia for no other reason than pure greed. It's a total rip off, the performance gains don't justify the price. Nothing does. This is the most important part of this whole fiasco and Nvidia and these cards need to be avoided like the plague until they come back to reality instead of trying to rip us off so badly.

[@theBettaFamily]

Nice

[@aminenach3678]

the 4080s prepose is making the user go like: ah i can add more 400$ and get the 4090!

[@TomYeeha]

@SixSpeedHero hey, you happy with the 4080FE? thinking of doing the same

[@VideogamesAsArt]

Very late comment for the algorithm

[@tristen_grant]

I care about photo editing bruh