IT WASN'T FAIR‼️ - Pat McAfee, Stephen A. & Shannon Sharpe discuss the FSU-CFP fallout | First Take

IT WASN'T FAIR ‼️ - Pat McAfee, Stephen A. & Shannon Sharpe discuss the FSU-CFP fallout | First Take
On First Take, Stephen A. Smith, Shannon Sharpe and Pat McAfee discuss the Florida State Seminoles being left out by the College Football Playoff Committee in favor of the Alabama Crimson Tide.
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[@donvolio4089]

I loved when Pat interrupted SAS to ask what Shannon said about seeds 😂😂😂

[@Kordellll]

He couldn’t hold it in😂

[@catspaw]

2018: Clemson 44, Alabama 16 Guys, bama got blown out, maybe we shouldn't risk it.

[@testtest-qr6sx]

2019: LSU 42, Clemson 25 Guys, clemson got blown out, maybe we shouldn't risk it. stop picking and choosing

[@CN-gw5nt]

@@testtest-qr6sxYou missed the point… WOOOOSH

[@Luhmicheal]

@@testtest-qr6sx do you even understand what hes trying to say?

[@Helmsson1]

Genuinely an unpredictable outcome though. I watched that 2018 Bama team go shut out LSU at LSU and slant route their way to 45-7 halftimes.

[@Blindjager]

@@testtest-qr6sx You just clowned yourself with that comment haha. Blowouts happen you bringing up another one just proves the original guys point.

[@heyarnold8023]

Georgia has been number 1 the entire season and lose once just to slide drastically to number 6 is wild af

[@GBooker76]

It’s a cold world in these ranking streets

[@heyarnold8023]

@@GBooker76 facts

[@EYE4EYEPRODUCTIONS713]

Not really, every team that loses drop in rankings. Unfortunately for them they loss at the end of season but I do get it. Should be some liency if the loss is in the conference championship. But still, if u don't win your conference, should u really be playing for a national championship?

[@samuelburson7640]

​​@@EYE4EYEPRODUCTIONS713Like they say the best team does not always win. Yes there have been other teams to not win a conference champs to win the NC. The Dawgs lost by 3 and the game could have gone either way. Georgia was 12-1 yeah they should have been in.

[@conchobar]

A loss near the end of the season caused a big drop in ranking since the pre-BCS days. Georgia shouldn't be surprised. To be fair, had Alabama lost to Auburn, Georgia would be in the #4 spot over FSU. That's how the SEC bias works.

[@kdubbss0583]

I just have a question: if FSU was considered to be so bad because of Travis’ injury that they are no longer the same team, then why did the committee rank them above Georgia and Ohio State? If FSU is good enough to be considered better than a Georgia team that lost one game in two years, then how can they say they’re not good enough to compete in the CFP? Edit: moreover, if the argument is “we want the best four teams in the CFP”, then why play the games? If a group of 12-15 people are gonna make a decision anyway?

[@gwahighlights]

Even if Florida st was healthy they’re not better than Georgia

[@thedirtybubble9613]

And that's where the committee screwed up, again. Putting FSU ahead of Georgia and Ohio State.

[@steveandersen996]

Is it fair Georgia had to face Alabama for the SEC Championship while FSU got to face trash Louisville? If they want respect, join a real conference. Texas and Oklahoma are joining the SEC while Washington and Oregon are joining the Big 10. FSU wants to stay in their cupcake conference and get an easy path to the playoffs.

[@Kinogotiate]

NCAA got it right FSU just needed to not let travis get injured or have a better backup. they failed at that so they deserve to be out.

[@sotr6347]

The Joke Is Comparinf FSU TO TCU!!?? LMAO TCU LOOKED NOTHIN LIKE FSU DOES.

[@jokbia]

It is UNDENIABLE that shaking things up at ESPN was for the better. The type of different dynamics that Pat and Shannon bring to these conversations is so refreshing. Never seen a man come on live television with a tank top speak so eloquently that it forces Stephen to bring his A game.

[@Zenigundam]

Pat McAfee does not speak eloquently.

[@GBooker76]

P Mac the kind of guy you can hang out with outside of work and not just some guy that you just work with.

[@collydub1987]

​@@Zenigundamdid you watch this? 🤡

[@Zenigundam]

@@collydub1987 I don't have to watch it. I've known about Pat McAfee since he was at WV, and I've seen him speak plenty of times. He's not exactly professor emeritus of English language studies at Princeton.

[@94Knights]

@@Zenigundamhe doesn’t have to be. He gets his points across well and his charisma is next level. What else you want from him?

[@Acv2_Yadri]

Shannon with the “seeds” joke got me 😂

[@gregwilliamsjr8901]

If the injury was the only issue then the 2 weeks prior rankings should not have had FSU at 4. That’s my biggest issue as a FSU fan.

[@sakthithanigai5036]

Well the thing is if Alabama didn’t beat Georgia, FSU would’ve made it. The reason they put Texas in was because they already beat Alabama. But if Alabama lost there’s a high chance that Texas doesn’t make it in and it’s FSU at 3 and Georgia falling to 4 or vise versa.

[@Zenigundam]

Can you honestly say that Florida State was the best team in America when Travis was healthy? Would Michigan or Georgia have needed to survive against Boston College? FSU is signficantly flawed. Losing 1 player doesn't make you a two touchdown underdog to UGA.

[@zurkthajerkgaming]

@@Zenigundam They got left out because of SEC/Saban politics. The same committee tried their hardest to put a 2 loss bama team in last year. Milroe got benched twice for poor performance. tell me again, FSU should be left out because of QB.

[@nottelling4828]

What I take away from all of this is that rankings don't mean squat. It's just window dressing for fans. At the end of the day, the committee will take whoever they want regardless of what little number may have appeared in front of the team's name prior to their selection. I'm not mad at them for selecting who they selected, but don't pee down my back and tell me it's raining. Just let the fans know that the rankings are our little fetish and have zero bearing on the selections.

[@mattcarberry368]

because it wasn't set in stone that they'd be pushed out..... remember Cardale Jones? They still got in because in their last game when Cardale started before the playoffs, they BLEW OUT their opponent in amazingly convincing fashion, while this year FSU went out in that same scenario and looked absolutely lost from start to finish, and it was noteworthy and surprising when they'd make ONE decent play against Louisville......... it's amazing how after ALL these years that people STILL don't realize "style points" matter when it comes to toss ups and close calls

[@SamuelJ888]

I love how Pat has literally no fear of getting fired or getting in trouble. He's just gonna be himself. It makes the convo go so much more smoothly

[@collydub1987]

He's got that FU money now

[@hilltop1563]

Cause he knows he has his own platform even without espn

[@CrookedJoeBiden]

He don’t need ESPN. ESPN needs him.

[@SamuelJ888]

@@collydub1987 I know hes bulletproof. Gonna call ppl put for their BS freely

[@tupactargaryen]

lol, My dude showed in a tank top, like f**k it.

[@ronniebauman28]

The Jacksonville Jaguars will now be removed from playoff contention after Trevor Lawrence went down.

[@mattcarberry368]

oh yeah because without Joe Burrow everyone is still calling the Bengals a Super Bowl contender huh just like if Patrick Mahomes went down, the Chiefs would INSTANTLY be written off.......... that's just reality

[@morganwartman8507]

@@mattcarberry368they would still have the chance to prove everyone wrong though, right?

[@edd06001]

yup New England will take their place because the NFL playoffs ain't nothing without Bill Belichick lol

[@johnj2809]

Jeff Hostetler would disagree. @@mattcarberry368

[@1BluvfreshBeats]

​@@mattcarberry368hey,hey aye don't throw us under the bus like that 😂😂😂 #whodey🧡🖤

[@tigerhoods7927]

I mean the ncaa is a joke, it shouldn’t be a panel of people deciding who gets to play for a national championship

[@fast02gt]

They need to be able to control it.. its all about control.

[@user-nw6nf5uc5o]

Okay. Who should decide?

[@jacquessimard7570]

So happy pat and shannon are sharing the tv time together. Home run espn

[@mrvargas2582]

They keep bringing up TCU but TCU won their first playoff game.. and with FSU do you want to talk about the last two weeks but with Alabama you only want to talk about one week and not the struggle they had with Auburn…

[@melvinbinion5386]

Yeah just to get dubbed 65-7 goofy 😂

[@timothypayton7623]

​@melvinbinion5386 then Michigan should have beat TCU lol

[@falseprophet1024]

​@@melvinbinion5386 If TCU didnt belong, how did Michigan, who they beat?

[@Zenigundam]

You conveniently forget that the refs handed that game to TCU.

[@mikaellucas6454]

Forreal. When Clemson, Oklahoma, Ohio State, Michigan State and Michigan or Notre Dame get blown out in the CFP it’s no issue. But when an outlier like TCU does (after winning a game!) it’s a problem. So annoying

[@thogro99]

TCU beat Michigan to get there. People keep ignoring that fact just to make their point....

[@voiceofreason2674]

Michigan under harbaugh has beat some great Ohio State teams, a good Notre Dame once , and a decent Penn State several times. But every time a great team from the SEC plays them they lose.

[@WillyOrca]

Yeah, they're kind of just letting their mask slip. I don't understand how Cincinnati can get a playoff birth simply off of principal while denying FSU one on an extremely subjective technicality.

[@Helmsson1]

Sure but that fact is softened when you remember the committee giving TCU special treatment to have their abysmal playoff pick look better. They should have played Georgia round one. I hear so much about SEC bias and Bama bias but we can clearly see TCU losing a game yet somehow not moving in the rankings like everyone else. The four best teams were not delivered last year.

[@fast02gt]

Yes it’s like they forgot.. the whole thing is fucked up.

[@Loveselfloveall1]

We’re not ignoring that. We’re highlighting their demise against Georgia. The committee don’t want to gamble with a possible championship game like that again!!

[@coreyminors9427]

Looking forward to the next round of layoffs

[@mousepurple1713]

buddy is mad his team didn’t make it 🤣

[@ChristopherShawnR1ch]

it's disgusting that ESPN would air that clip of Jordan's injury.

[@714milky]

Pat yelling at SAS to watch his mouth was the best part

[@jordansolis_]

“Y’all gonna need to take that Justin Timberlake and cry me a river somewhere else” 😂😂😂

[@nserekoraymond8593]

Pat, Shannon & Stephen A in same studio is fun. Need this on weekly basis

[@marcjohnson8488]

By the end of the season, the FSU defense was the best in the country

[@lawless7859]

Except it wasn’t.

[@marcjohnson8488]

@@lawless7859 yes it was

[@lawless7859]

@@marcjohnson8488 you realize there are other teams in the country not just ACC teams? FSU was 14th overall. Now they get to get destroyed by UGA

[@marcjohnson8488]

@@lawless7859 The team that will go to the Orange bowl will not be the same roster and you know that!! And I said and I will quote " BY THE END of the season FSU has the best defense in the country.

[@ChristopherShawnR1ch]

Giving credit for LOSING is the problem here. If you schedule it, you better go WIN it. You shouldn't get credit for losing.

[@stevenvox6549]

That's why they are going up to 12 teams next year. The first month of college football is boring - a bunch of blowouts.

[@matthewsdonnelly]

There is a such thing as a high quality loss. Losing to West Virginia by 10 is not equal to Georgia losing against Bama by 3 points. Its just not the same.

[@Kjbxll]

@@matthewsdonnellyyou are talking like these are regular teams. This system is biased and corrupt. Alabama or Georgia shouldn’t get any passes for losses bc they have a top 5 recruiting class every year. Yeah they should and are expected to win every game. They need to stop giving them passes

[@pnut3844able]

​@@matthewsdonnelly look at what you're saying to justify this. You're a complete idiot

[@stoneblood9864]

Pat is single handedly saving ESPN. This man brings a bro vibe to the world of football that i think everyone has been missing. He deserves endless success and praise.

[@CashCollecta]

Getting the biggest bag and shows up to work in a tank top everyday 😂

[@adamschroeder4722]

Listen, you can be a pat fan, as am I... but the hyperbole gets annoying to me. ESPN does not need "saving"

[@stoneblood9864]

@@adamschroeder4722 Have you watched espn lately? Its all woke garbage. Stephen A pretending like he knows anything about football and complaining about how under privileged black people are even tho they make up a majority of the league. “saving” is subjective and pat is a breath of fresh air.

[@karlcain1068]

@@stoneblood9864ummm… I think both things can be true in your last statement… lol wth

[@TheIzzo1000]

@@karlcain1068both things can definitely and are definitely true

[@Mcflynerdyguy]

We didn’t get the 12 team playoff this year because the ACC commissioner and the FSU AD blocked it

[@daviegriffin3539]

*That iRoNy should be a dessert topping!* 🤭🍨 👀

[@Lazarus-nw1ve]

Not true. The run on the whole story for that is out of context you stripped to make the argument AGAINST FSU. 12 team playoff DOES NOT fix BCS no more than this Current system. None of this will ever be fixed until and only until The SEC Bias is forever done away with. Until that happens a 20 team playoff schedule will still be the same BCS joke as is the 4 team. This gets fixed, not magnified in the same. 12 team playoff magnifies the same. THAT is the point.

[@demetrichkerriwallace5546]

@@Lazarus-nw1vewhy wouldn’t a 12 team playoff fix it? SEC bias or not FSU would have been in the playoffs if it was 12.

[@williamapple7705]

Also FSU is complaining that the ACC doesn’t look strong enough so FSU gets left out. Guess what program has been spearheading killing off the ACC for the last few years? Guess which program actively wanted the ACC to fail so they could get out? FSU’s chickens came home to roost. They thought the ACC was a lost cause, bad mouthed it to everyone that would listen, and now when they need the ACC to appear strong it doesn’t.

[@brians1225]

@@Lazarus-nw1ve 12 team playoff fixes it. at some point, you are what you are, and i'd even argue top 8 is good enough.

[@brettt141]

All this proved is College Football cant have an honest playoff system. It will always be about money no matter how many teams they expand to

[@sakthithanigai5036]

You can say it’s all about the money but FSU hasn’t looked like a top 4 team without Jordan Travis.

[@Zenigundam]

It was all about the money. Michigan vs. Alabama is as attractive a college football match-up as there could be. It's a rematch of the 2000 Orange Bowl which featured Brady, A-Train, Terrell, Shaun Alexander, etc. Michigan vs. a depleted Florida State team would have done as poorly in sales and ratings as this year's World Series did in baseball.

[@trevthegamedev]

I would LOVE to see FSU’s defense get a chance against Michigan. But even if they got blown out, they earned it and should have been picked. A bunch of guys’ opinions should not override the results on the field. Human opinion also said Oregon should beat Washington by 9 or 10 points and look what happened.

[@morganwartman8507]

@@trevthegamedevMichigan wouldn’t pass 20 points on our defense I’d put my life on it

[@cosmicdisaster02]

​@trevthegamedev difference is, human opinion gave Washington a decent chance, it just said it was more likely that Oregon would win. For FSU, all the rational thinkers are in agreement that FSU had no shot

[@Baseball.Purist]

The main issue with college football is that there are ten "leagues" which are incorrectly called "conferences". The fix is to create one league realigned with eight geographically based conferences and do not allow independents. Each conference determines their regular season champion. All the conference champions advance to a three-round playoff. This solution requires no committees and no polls. You wouldn't always get the eight "best" teams, but you eliminate subjective opinions. This solution requires the current conferences to give up power, so it will never happen, but it would solve the issues we face today.

[@VainRain69]

It then creates the same issues with a single power hungry entity in control that exists in the NFL. Look at how flawed and power hungry the NCAA is. Now imagine they got all of that power. It's good having separate individually run conferences. The expansion next year fixes these issues. You have the 4 main champs automatically in then 8 at large bids. It's similar to a slightly smaller NFL playoff, the only issue is the NFL had 32 teams competing. The NCAA has 133 to pick from. The playoff committee has actually been great I feel like other than the number of teams allowed to be selected into the playoffs so going to 12 makes it as perfect as it can be without going to a 5+ round playoff system which would be simply unhealthy for young players and further diminish the meaning behind big games in college. Because if everyone gets in then no game matters until the playoffs.

[@bryanprice6913]

1000% my man.... But the issue is the elites cannot control everything to line their pockets

[@John_Hoover]

This “Michigan reaction” take is getting old and it’s only been two days. Is it not even remotely possible that Michigan was more than a little surprised that an undefeated power 5 team is getting left out in favor of a team that needed a miracle to beat a 6-6 Auburn and lost by 10 at home? Of course that’s not possible…

[@waterthugs]

That's what I have been saying. But it doesn't fit their narrative of Bama Bama Bama

[@nitro662raw8]

Alabama could have lost 3 games this season...go to the SEC championship...win it and they still would put them in the playoffs over an undefeated FSU...SAD BUT TRUE

[@donniewarren8363]

That's the case every year with Bama. They deserved it this year because they beat Georgia, but I don't think Georgia after being undefeated for 2 years, lost by 3 points shouldn't have been left off.

[@fsujl11]

just espn trying to say they are sorry for paying them off

[@nowayjose1313]

I keep hearing from Stephen A about 29 straight games won for Georgia (and yet they lost to the team they usually lose to, no big suprise). How many games straight has FSU also won? Nobody mentions that.

[@already5912]

That would be 19 and I totally agree with you.. Let me throw an extra fact in there FSU is 4-0 the last two years against the mighty SEC... But those FACTS don't matter only 12 people opinions did... 🤷‍♂

[@dakitchen2290]

Nobody doesn’t really want to say it so I will. FSU defensive was going to stop Michigan and they knew it. FSU was going to win the championship. The issue is that they actually believe that they are helping instead of telling them why don’t you beat them because they haven’t been beat because someone is going to lose anyway. Stupid.

[@austingleason]

I hate when people say FSU would've gotten killed if they got put in. That's bedsides the point. They won every game on the field, and they deserved the chance to prove if they'd get blow out or not. You don't know until the game is played. That's the whole point of playing the game and competing in the first place. It wasn't pretty, but they kept winning after Travis went down. It's a shame they didn't get the chance to show if they could keep it going or not.

[@nitro662raw8]

Right💯...Just go ask Michigan about Appalachian State

[@matthewjones678]

They play georgia you will see then. Alabama didnt have their QB situation figured out and they were buried. Then they figured it out beat the top dog and Florida St lost their QB . QB does matter and they would get smoked . its the 4 best teams not most deserving. Wish everyone would stop being snowflakes . if fsu played alabamas schedule they lose atleast one if not more.

[@austingleason]

@@matthewjones678 it’s not about being snowflakes. It’s what about is right. People act like Alabama didn’t struggle with a 6-6 usf team and beat aubrun on a 4th & 30. Id understand if they were rolling through everyone, but they weren’t.

[@brycecoyle7288]

Florida state was about as good as liberty at the end lol

[@jogney1974]

So liberty should be there? Easy to win when opponents are homecoming teams.

[@paulmkz]

This is a easy fix. If you win your conference big or small you should get into the playoff. Winning your conference should matter ! Next year that's 9 conferences. Thats 9 teams. Then let committee take remaining 3 at large teams. Then let committee seed them. Committee only job should be picking 3 at large teams and seeding them all thats it. Less committee and more let it be decided on field is better. This year your 12 teams wud be 1 Mich 2 Wash 3Flst 4 Bama 5 Texas 6 Liberty 7Smu 8 James Madison 9 Boise st 10Miami OH . Then 2 at large teams 11 Uga and 12 OH st.

[@OutdoorsWithGeoff]

Need to see Shannon as a guest on Pat’s show!

[@JasonNahRealFitSG]

Mustard seed, grape seed, sunflower seed... We need more of Shay & Pat doing stuff together

[@wendellwoods1742]

How does the committee know if one of the quarterbacks of one of the teams won't get hurt in practice between now and the playoff games?

[@BasicBodThor]

All I heard was "they have criteria set up so that they can just pick whomever they want based on $$ and no one can say a thing about it because no one knows the criteria". And SAS is right...college ball has been unfair forever...but that justifies things continuing as is? Miss me with that nonsense

[@jong3397]

Bama LOST to Texas. Bama almost lost to 6-6 Auburn except for a last second 4th and 31 pass into the end zone. Bama almost lost to 4-8 Arkansas. Bama almost lost to 7-5 Texas A&M. And even benched their starting QB for a bit early in the season because he wasn't playing well. What are we talking about?

[@brucelong4804]

That’s what’s crazy they act like that didn’t happen, thats what irks me , SA quick to say FSU didn’t look good against Florida with our backup, but ignore the same day Bama got a miracle against 6-6 Auburn who just lost to New Mexico st . 😂

[@lawless7859]

The problem is if FSU played in the sec they would have been just another 6-6 team too. Alabama can go into these big games and win. FSU couldn’t.

[@ThenextManning13]

⁠​⁠@@lawless7859FSU demolished LSU who was tied for the third highest conference record in the SEC. They wouldn’t be 6-6…

[@lincolnstraub6561]

@@ThenextManning13that’s so disingenuous, LSU is the 5th highest ranked SEC team

[@User89574]

But at the end of the day they stood on business against uga😂😂😂 evb struggled this yr, every game is different

[@rubynodom9896]

People are forgetting Alabama barely beat auburn and Georgia barely beat Georgia tech….

[@user-ut8ic5tb3i]

No one's forgetting that, but there's plenty of "barely beat" to go around, including FSU who barely squeaked by unranked Boston College by 3. Washington barely beat Oregon State by 2, and barely beat unranked Washington State by 3. Michigan looked weak against unranked Maryland. Texas barely beat unranked TCU and unranked Kansas State. Stop making emotional arguments. FSU is NOT one of the top 4 teams in the country, and frankly should have been ranked below Georgia and Oregon. Do you honestly believe they could have won against any of the CFP top four when they struggled just to get past Louisville? C'mon.

[@Champion-Media07]

@@user-ut8ic5tb3i You're just picking the "barely beat" game that fits your narrative. Georgia's last 2 games they barely beat 6-6 Georia Tech and lost to Alabama. Why do they deserve to be ranked ahead of a team that "barely beat" 10-2 Louisville by double digits with their 3rd string QB and lost to ... nobody? Unless you're some know-it-all that's made millions gambling on college football games because you KNOW what these teams will do when they actually hit the field, you don't have any validity arguing for teams that lost games vs a team that didn't.

[@juanspears5567]

​@@user-ut8ic5tb3inoticed you didn't mention Bama needing Jesus Christ to help knock off Auburn

[@juanspears5567]

​@@user-ut8ic5tb3iand you just made the point...those were barely beats WITH STARTING QBs THAT TOOK REOS ALL WEEK

[@icetray2727]

Unc is killing me with these sayings 😭

[@horridfuture3835]

If you can go undefeated and not make the playoffs don’t bother. Take advantage of your scholarship or do what it takes to get drafted. Screw attempting a playoff run in college ball.

[@christopherwilliams477]

Thank you again for all of THE Buckeye love ❤❤❤

[@yeenkno]

My boy Pat doing whatever he wanna do in ESPN😂

[@clinthodges5506]

He doesn't need espn

[@dyama1190]

It’s so funny seeing Pat in a tank top at the desk while they are all dressed up 😂😂

[@adreday10]

as for SAS i dont think tcu is the only team in ncaa history that got washed in a championship game. some part of this process needs to be decided on the field

[@wendellwoods1742]

Yes, on the field.

[@brians1225]

there's been plenty of blow outs in the past, including BCS era, but not to the tune of TCU. That was utter embarrassment. I believe TCU earned it as they beat Michigan, who beat Ohio State, who gave Georgia a run for its money. At the end of the day, game needs to be settled on the field, and TCU just got destroyed badly. I can only thin of USC beating of OU back in the BCS era that was in 50s vs teens. 65-7 is no joke.

[@ericdahlman3354]

Pat McAfee has been the only one who has been able to explain this in a way that i can at least understand. I dont agree, but he has a valid point of the reaction the Michigan players had to hearing the news. Though maybe they had that reaction cause they stole FSU's signs and not Alabamas 😂

[@realamerican8069]

New alphas at ESPN.. The Shannon and Pat show!

[@kaiTMS]

I love how Pat is still holding his microphone, absolutely iconic!!

[@txkid92]

The committee should’ve done an emergency 6 team format

[@JustinChristopher-ov7gw]

So tired of them always bringing up TCU as an example. Bro - they won one game to GET to the championship game. So Michigan didn't belong either. It's a really weak argument. Yes, they got stomped, but then 'Georgier's' championship last year was weak sauce because they barely squeaked by Ohio State and clearly no one on the other bracket was worth a darn.

[@colinmc2945]

Michigan belonged, but they did play their worst game all season against TCU, was a comedy of errors.

[@SHDOAY]

Weak argument by you to not mentioning Liberty then put Liberty in 🤡 stop bitching and moaning if you want undefeated teams put in Liberty then and tell that to USF in 2018

[@khrisstake2210]

​@@colinmc2945jets sweep on the inch line while being the number 1 rushing team in the nation. BEAUTIFUL!

[@tombyrne9003]

@@colinmc2945Michigan scored more points off turnovers in that game than TCU did. Just as an FYI 😉

[@edd06001]

They figure if we keep making arguments that make no sense, people will settle down because they thought long and hard.

[@autumnwind1216]

Lets just say it. ESPN has a big contract for these playoffs & Alabama has an easy road to getting in every year because ESPN thinks its best for business especially considering the billions Disney has lost since 2020.

[@nicholasiezzi9790]

Ga was the most deserving team and genuinely think the best actual squad and would have won it all. They go undefeated for over two years, barely lose to Alabama, and drop to six. The committee wanted to avoid seeing a three-peat.

[@TreySarver]

If we’re gonna talk about Michigan’s reaction to getting Alabama, we gotta talk about the one guy clapping. That was JJ McCarthy, who was relieved to not be facing FSU’s defense.

[@Zenigundam]

Michigan's reaction was "business as usual". The Wolverines opened up as 3 point favorites against Alabama. Michigan is the best team in the country and arguably America's team after the Florida State debacle.

[@billeh60]

@@Zenigundamcheaters can’t be americas team nice try tho

[@joshuaharris5368]

We gotta talk about Louisville offense was just garbage. If not for a dropped touchdown in the endzone by Louisville TE they beat fsu.

[@austinglaze5415]

​@@ZenigundamJJ McCarthy is putting up the same numbers as FSUs backups against teams like Maryland. Business as usual for Michigan is getting whooped by a southern team every year when it matters 2016: FSU 2017: South Carolina 2018: Florida 2019: Alabama 2021: Georgia 2022: TCU

[@austinglaze5415]

​@@joshuaharris5368the FSU LB ripped the ball out, it wasn't dropped and FSU has by far the best pass defense in football.

[@srryisuk5204]

Why does everyone keep saying TCU didn’t belong, but yet they beat Michigan in the semi final?? MENTION THAT GUYS! You’re saying Michigan must not have belonged either? Which means they picked 2 of the wrong teams last season

[@willjamesjr]

Yes. The committee was very open about the fact that they made criteria that was DESIGNED to be unfair, biased and corrupt. But that doesn't chabge the fact that FSU got screwed! I appreciate Pat & Herbstreet's very articulate explanations of what the committe did. It still doesn't make it any less corrupt! Its just like the NFL's rules on celebrations, the tuck rule or the government allowing billionaires to ZERO taxes while most everyone else don't get thay luxury. BS

[@Clockwork0nions]

Someone was always going to get left out with 5 conferences and 4 playoff slots.

[@mbw7055]

just not an SEC team. Because its a corrupt beauty pageant and an invitational, not a true playoff.@@Clockwork0nions

[@AndraeRansom]

@@Clockwork0nionsthe teams with one loss should have been left out and not given preferential treatment.

[@Clockwork0nions]

@@AndraeRansom By this logic Bama and Texas should have been left out in favor of Liberty lmao.

[@AndraeRansom]

@@Clockwork0nions Liberty is not a Power 5 school, and I’m an alum of FSU and Liberty. Do better research grasshopper 😂😂😂

[@waterthugs]

Everybody talking about Michigan's reaction to playing Alabama. Maybe their reaction was of shock that FSU didn't make it. Just saying.

[@Greasysweet6]

3:28 “I don’t care what seed” 💀

[@tristingarcia4347]

Pat must have it in his contract that he’s allowed to wear cutoffs 😂

[@breezybreeze12]

It’s a bad look.. he needs a shirt

[@tristingarcia4347]

@@breezybreeze12 oh he looks terrible on set with everyone. But it’s probably his way of showing he hasn’t completely sold out to espn

[@Nic_Flair]

I did want to point out that I think Michigan reacted to seeing Bama being 4 because they’re shocked as an undefeated team that another undefeated team got hosed. As many, many other brands around college football reacted as well. The way they put the cameras in the watch parties…just all seems staged

[@patrickmorris771]

I think people are tired of seeing Alabama and Georgia, let new blood in for a change.

[@delxinogaming6046]

The collab we need

[@kafkakaraoke]

Pat, that paragraph you read could easily be interpreted as. In case of emergency, (No SEC in the playoffs) we have the right to chose who we please ( the SEC) not based on the games but our corruption and our partners (ESPN's) leveraged opinionated biases and talking points. (SEC)

[@Dawgnbama]

Answer me this, if alabama was sitting at one and Georgia sitting at #8 beat alabama by 3 would they have dropped alabama out of the playoffs?

[@juanspears5567]

Nope

[@Dawgnbama]

@@juanspears5567 correct

[@danietijerina]

People want to forget the TCU vs Michigan game so bad 😂

[@hawkbabby]

Best take I’ve heard

[@user-yx2ii1zz9d]

I don’t think is big deal leaving fsu out fans would’ve said they ain’t have their starting QB if they would have lost in the playoffs

[@gwahighlights]

lol facts

[@brycecraig3823]

fax

[@AceWillliams]

Fax lol😂

[@michaelc.sobczyk9100]

The panel conveniently leaves out Bama’s struggles with Ark and Auburn

[@nitro662raw8]

Facts💯

[@odis8414]

Made that up with the Georgia win.

[@michaelc.sobczyk9100]

@@odis8414That not how this works….struggling with Ark and Auburn just proves that while they played well vs Georgia they are just as capable of playing poorly If the Alabama that struggled shows up at the Rose…well let’s just say Michigan isn’t Auburn they will make Bama pay

[@odis8414]

@@michaelc.sobczyk9100 Michigan isn't ready for the SEC pressure.

[@michaelc.sobczyk9100]

@@odis8414 Sure..😜. Michigan has faced the #1,#3,#5,#13 Ranked Defenses in the country and beat them all I’m sure they can handle the pressure from the 18th Ranked defense The question is can Alabama handle the pressure from the 2nd ranked Defense? They played the 23rd ranked and got spanked at home… Michigan will be just fine against that stellar pressure from Bama

[@tjcloar1913]

What makes me upset is that the committee could have argued that despite a loss the 5th ranked SOS was better then an unbeaten 55th ranked SOS

[@adamfling630]

The story draws more haters, which equals more money.

[@outsidetheboxdesigns6265]

The easy way to see the pro FSU side of the argument is imagine the NFL adapting to a 13 person committee that determines who makes the playoffs at the end of the season....records dont matter...fans would riot!!! Why is this still acceptable in the NCAA to this day? Oh yeah its all about tv viewership numbers not the sport. College football has turned into modern pro wrestling, wins and loses don't count its all about the story for the big shows

[@techlorknight338]

Or maybe Michigans reaction was because they were expecting fsu and feel fsu was robbed vs oh no we got bama.

[@GregoryStackingtons212]

Let’s talk about the offensive line and defense that has a bunch of 1st team athletes ! Yeah it sucks not having Travis sucks and hurts but a battle tested team is what FSU was and defense wins championships not offense! So a team that got caught cheating and 2 1 loss teams getting in over them is bull crap

[@BSmitty4rm8Fitty]

Use the BCS to rank playoff teams. Take the human element out of it

[@B3GINNER]

Love the old 90s outro

[@WoodburyWrestling]

I love how everyone leaves out that Florida State has arguably the best defense in the country

[@JMichael-xc7uu]

Of course Shannon sez Alabama- what a homer. I can’t wait to see if Michigan was afraid to play Alabama- I would think they would not want to play FSU as losing to them without their QB is like losing once again to a TCU story

[@Jeremy91633]

Pat is the only one on ESPN that can rock a tank top on live air and not get criticized 😂 this guy is the 🐐 of television along with Shannon 🐐

[@WestCoastStyleSports]

Pat really brought his mic 🤣😂 that’s awesome

[@vuh_jj]

By insinuating that a coach’s or program’s legacy is considered you reveal that it was never about performance on the field.

[@loewlouie]

So what happens if there is a dominant team with 3 losses (let’s say star qb is out first 3 games) then steamrolls rest of way. Should they be in over an undefeated team? Do regular season games even matter now or is college football really just a subjective beauty pageant?

[@freshprincetk]

What was the reason as to why this expanded playoff format wasn't implemented from the get go? I mean the CFP committee for sure had to see this kind of scenario come into play sooner than later

[@mattcarberry368]

first they just used to vote on a Champion without any championship game, that was unfair so they implemented one...... then a championship game wasn't enough because there was no playoff to earn a way into it and that was unfair, so they implemented playoffs..... now it's unfair when a team is ranked #5 and misses the playoffs so they're expanding the playoff field...... does ANYBODY in the world think is actually gonna stop people from complaining about seeding and first rd matchups and who was ranked just outside and missed the playoffs etc lol probably not everyone will just find some other way to complain about it and say this or that is so unfair blah blah it's just what people do

[@jimjason5146]

The eye test needs to be removed entirely! We need to go the NFL route. Place high in your division and automatically make the playoff. No theorists deciding who they THINK is better. It's so stupid. It's an invitational not a playoff.

[@kingknights5107]

FSU must have a press conference immediately and claim the undefeated 2023 National Championship and boycott the bowl game.. and sue the shtt out of all parties involved for collusion, corruption and conspiracy..

[@user-he2zc6pl7u]

Because the ACC (Florida states’ conference) didn’t sign off on it

[@raymondmckinney8240]

It all comes down to did FSU earn the right to be there..... And the answer is yes!

[@annblanchard7343]

Fine…. all you are saying to those kids is “I don’t want to play that team in the playoffs so I will just go out and break some arms and legs!” Way to teach our young people values!!!

[@miilky_eh]

What about bama almost losing to auburn? And being 3 to 3 at half against USF Stephen A?

[@am8199]

And only beating 4-8 Arkansas by 3 at home

[@MichaelJenkins-gk2kg]

Apparently Stephen A Smith has a selective memory

[@Unasham3d]

We're doing a lot of talk about Alabama, but the bigger question is TEXAS over FSU. Bama beating GA gave them their spot. They talk about not wanting to have another TCU incident, yet Texas is coming from that same conference that was an embarrassment last year. This isn't about "We don't want another TCU incident", especially when their conference hasn't been on the level of most of the ACC or any other conference for a decade. I hate FSU as a Miami guy, but it's an attack on FSU and the ACC right now from these idiots on the committee

[@matthewspence1472]

Texas over FSU? That's easy; Texas beat Bama. In head to head, Texas was always going to be ranked higher than Bama. Bama beating Georgia solidified Texas getting in the CFP. If Bama got in, Texas would need to be in at least 1 seed higher. FSU with Jordan Travis keeps Bama out. Texas still gets in as the 4 seed.

[@DoubleDoglegGolf]

If Texas didn't beat Bama by 10 at their own house, I would agree.

[@kingknights5107]

It should be Michigan, Washington, FSU and Alabama.. easy decision..

[@kingknights5107]

Alabama beating Georgia is more an impressive and a recent win than the Texas win over Alabama.. The CFP rankings should be [1] Michigan [2] Washington [3] FSU [4] Alabama [5] Texas [5] Georgia..

[@matthewspence1472]

@@kingknights5107 So, you believe head to head doesn't matter when both teams have the same record? Literally every analyst disagrees with that statement.

[@charlesrose7088]

FSU beat a higher ranked oppenent than Texas in the championship game... FSU should not have dropped to #5 and Texas should not have jumped to #3...Based on strength of record. Michigan should have been 1, Washington 2, FSU 3, Alabama 4. Even though bama lost to texas, Alabama should have been over Texas after beating the #1 team.

[@bjreynoso2155]

Feel like TCU gonna pull a Will Smith Oscars slap lol “keep my name out …….” 😂😂😂

[@ipayne18]

Funny thing is, this would've been the first year for the 12- team playoff, but the ACC vetoed it.

[@Wideout4]

So what…they champ went 13-0 including beating two ESECPN teams

[@conchobar]

We all thought a 4 team Playoff would end all the BS, yet here we are. A 12 team playoff won't be any different. They'll simply fill it up with Big Ten and SEC teams leaving other conference teams to fight over the 9-12 spots. The fix will only be more apparent.

[@nelson_robinson]

Big 10 and Pac 12 did too.. crazy how things played out

[@gabrielfrost3640]

Availability of players is a BS excuse. If JM received a season ending injury against Georgia, Alabama would still be in

[@MichaelJenkins-gk2kg]

Exactly

[@odis8414]

No way we would be in it.

[@philipbrough5686]

@@odis8414 Sure you would. Who would it be then? A team you just beat in the championship? A team that was never going to be in to begin with? A team that didn't even play in a Championship game?

[@quentonivery3766]

Nice one yall

[@thomasyates9657]

i love how pat just sittin up there in casual clothes🤣, dudes the goat

[@WhoisWillz]

Georgia should’ve won but Kirby always turn stupid when he play his old boss smh

[@davidverlaney7764]

If they didn't rob urban Meyer from a national championship when he coached Utah, he would be the first Mount Rushmore. I think Utah beat Alabama in the bowl game, and he beat Alabama and all the other SEC teams at Florida and when he coached Ohio State against Alabama in the four team playoff. And the 12 oh buckeyes team that couldn't play in a bowl game because of players trading memorabilia for tattoos, which would be comical now would've probably given him five national championships with three teams.

[@Champion-Media07]

Don't forget the 2015 Ohio St team was denied a chance to repeat because they didn't win their conference. Which is comical when you look at how many times Alabama or Georgia has got in since without winning the SEC.

[@ihateflatbunz]

How Texas 3 spots behind FSU beats number 18 and vaults 2 spots ahead like they just beat number 1 is the head scratcher. It tells you no matter what FSU did they were going to sub them out and they never had a fair shot to begin with.

[@Champion-Media07]

Everything is about Alabama. Texas had to move up so Alabama could get in. Simple as that. If Georgia had won, Texas was out and FSU was in. Once Alabama won and the committee decided they were going to be the automatic SEC team in the playoff, Texas had to be put in too, because they beat Alabama. They had the golden ticket.

[@ihateflatbunz]

@@Champion-Media07 Even if Georgia won I feel they were replacing fsu with Texas since not having the qb meant that much.

[@Champion-Media07]

@@ihateflatbunz That was just the excuse they used. It was about getting the SEC in, and if Georgia was in, they wouldn't have had to screw FSU to get an SEC team in. They would have had 4 undefeated teams, easy choices.

[@ihateflatbunz]

@@Champion-Media07 I agree nothing was made of a bama team who needed the a last minute play to beat Auburn.

[@Champion-Media07]

@@ihateflatbunz And barely beat 4-8 Arkansas, and only scored 17 points against USF.

[@timothyconner1397]

When one of the 4 get spanked then explain how that was different than giving a power 5 undefeated the same chance

[@Shaw_Cardboard_Treasures]

My question is this. If Jordan Travis hadn't got hurt and FSU went undefeated with Texas beating Bama and winning the Big12. And with Bama beating Georgia. Would they have screwed FSU or Texas? Just to get an SEC team.

[@jjwats12]

FSU. They would've put 1. Michigan 2. Washington 3. Texas 4. Georgia. Guaranteed.

[@Jimmyisslippin]

​@@jjwats12thats exactly what they would have done. Fsu was going to be left out no matter what just cause they struggled the last few games

[@jjwats12]

@@Jimmyisslippin - Yep. Every team struggled. But when Bama struggles it shows their grit, determination, and winning culture. When FSU struggles it shows they're weak. Never mind FSU was 2-0 against the SEC and the ACC was 6-4. Gotta have an SEC team in.

[@Jimmyisslippin]

@@jjwats12 when LSU beat BAMA 9-6 it was considered the best defensive game of the year. But when FSU shuts down Louisville offense who averaged 30+ points this year all I hear is how bad fsu is. No love to the Dline. Which in my opinion fsu Dline is the best Dline in the country.

[@jjwats12]

@@Jimmyisslippin - I remember that snoozefest as well. And with Tate at QB, we'd at least have scored in the 20s. There is no one on any side of this debate that thinks a 13-0 Bama who won their conference with a 3rd-string QB would be kept out of the playoff. No one. The committee is ridiculously biased.

[@kcsniper1243]

The committee set it up so that we could see an Alabama vs Texas Championship which would be big money. I think even if Florida State wont 60-0 over Louisville they weren't going to get in because of the money side. College Football has turned into pro sports. The good thing is next year it all goes away. They complaint next year will be about who is seeded where and The 12 spot goes to the best non power 5 team if they arn't already in the top 12

[@user-he2zc6pl7u]

Nah if Florida state won 60-0 and put up the “style points” they would have been in but they didn’t

[@angelaw9476]

This was going to be the Alabama Saban show at all costs. GA and FL got screwed and they know it. May as well make Saban the college football logo like Jerry West is for the NBA.

[@draginnahu3712]

its so stupid when you think about it

[@stevenhornostaj5676]

Hey pat, try wearing a shirt with sleeves.

[@budman7388]

An injustice has happened to FSU. A bigger injustice would be for people not to stand up and do something about it!! Top 8 teams in a playoff would be fair...include Ohio State and Oregon because they have claims too. 1)Michigan vs 8)Oregon 2)Washington vs 7)Ohio State 3)Texas vs 6)Georgia 4)Alabama vs 5)Florida State I know wishful thinking, but cmon man!!

[@brians1225]

i'd say oregon is out. they got two losses. i would argue why not throw in liberty at this point given they are undefeated? or plenty of other 1 and 2 loss teams that might be better for sure, but to carry the FSU logic, liberty can be given a chance in an expanded playoff field. but i agree, even a 6 team playoffs with 1 and 2 bye would've been great.

[@jspres86]

But just like Pat says here...an 8 team playoff sounds fair unless you're the 9th team. It's going to be unfair no matter what.

[@emoneyizhereson]

After all these years, people are still acting like college football rankings are supposed to be “fair”. It’s never been that, and we have the same debates around the issue every time a good team misses the championship/playoffs.

[@Jonathan-wh5fw]

TCU was underdogs against Michigan and won last year but nobody brings this up