COMPUTERS BEFORE PEOPLE?! Stephen A. & Greeny’s CFP talk goes off the rails! | The Pat McAfee Show

On The Pat McAfee Show, Mike Greenberg and Stephen A. Smith join the program to talk about Florida State’s omission from the College Football Playoff in favor of Alabama at No. 4.
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[@dgphotoholic]

All 3 in one room??? Definitely need to see this more!

[@LEGENDOFSEVENN]

Definitely loved to see this, pat is from my city + I've been watching stephen a and greeny for years, they should have a quick show once a week

[@NoFace-ke9pc]

SAS trying to ride on pats coattails now

[@cordcuttercam]

​@@NoFace-ke9pcnot even

[@randonfryerson2702]

I agree! That was awesome!

[@lolYoruichifan]

Yeah a show like this would boost rating.

[@n8doggy733]

a convo between Greeny, Pat, and Stephen A went off the rails...NEVER would have guessed 😂

[@andim.8788]

neither would have i

[@ZachHighwind]

The need to get them together for March Madness, things will get nuclear

[@lebronfanjones6840]

This crossover debate is actually very entertaining😂

[@JayzoTheNextKobeBryant2.0]

😂😂😂

[@patrickpinder4118]

Can we please get a one time special of Greeney and Stephan A discussing this for an hour? Thanks

[@CoryPlaysDrums]

Except Stephen A only voices his opinion, almost no facts. Greeney is 100% right

[@donroberson5097]

Steven A doesn't know anything

[@Jacob-seek-Jesus-123]

AP College Football Rankings by NCAA 1 Michigan 2 Washington 3 Texas 4 Florida State There is NO Bama, sorry!

[@edwardbargiel1428]

You want to throw up listening to Stephen a for and hour

[@M.B1s0n]

@@Jacob-seek-Jesus-123 and in the CFP final rankings, there is no FSU. When will people finally understand that the AP hasn't been a relevant poll since early in the BCS era.

[@DeRicardo4980]

Yes for those who objected to Pat joining ESPN are mad that he excelled beyond expectations 👏 I love Pat his crew and how they do it.

[@coryjohnson2486]

I’m glad ESPN has let them keep their creative talent! Hopefully, that continues!

[@Alanboy395]

He earned that contract with that epic troll job of Georgia on Saturday alone. 😂

[@locdorx]

I think you are missing the point. Pat and his crew are very talented. People were afraid ESPN changed their style. People didn;t like ESPN because they have gotten worse over the years. As for SAS, he is the epitome of double standards. His remarks about Asian and apologize (so fake and his last comment "I still stand by what I said"- if it was a white person, he/she would have been fired.

[@C8mon]

I don’t think anybody thought he wouldn’t do well people were concerned that ESPN would make him change how he ran his show.

[@buk6727]

Pat and his crew are great

[@Broady25]

I love how Pat is sitting there totally instigating both sides. But I with Greeny on this one.

[@kevinj12345]

Lol, this comment didn't age well. The committee was right

[@TeezyHadaBaby]

@@kevinj12345 None of FSUs players played that game everyone opted out for the draft

[@kevinj12345]

@Wiggleswurth GA had 20 players opt out. UGA's back ups ran wild on FSU too. If everyone started UGA still wins by 28+

[@Travis89-ob5tt]

Pat sitting there in the middle reacting to every sentence is pretty funny. 🤣

[@PizzaJesus]

Pat was egging them on and he should do it more, it was great 😂

[@AdolphSaxOfficial]

Buddy just there instigating 😂😂

[@BigJL]

ESPN should host an “ESPN All Stars” segment like this!!!! It was fire

[@tylerfaubert1201]

Even though I’m pissed about FSU and the whole voting fiasco, listening to these 3 brought such a smile to my face

[@jamesjefferson3809]

This was wonderful. My God this was the crossover of the century😂😂😂😂😂

[@bryantparker2393]

1) Alabama can win on a hail Mary against a 6-6 Auburn and not be penalized for not being dominant but Florida State can win against a number #14 Louisville with a 3rd string quarterback and be penalized for it? 2) The Acc had a winning record against the SEC this year 6-4 3) The argument Alabama getting in off of reputation is trash. If we are awarding playoff spots off of reputation there is no point in playing the season. Florida State was robbed.

[@codyl4961]

Overtime with a shitty Clemson team? Should have lost to a terrible BC team? Goes both ways idiot

[@coryjohnson2486]

Recency bias plays a big role in these… but I still think they got it right with Bama getting in. Beating #1 Georgia and having a much better SOS trumps FSU’s resume. Just depends how you look at it 🤷‍♂️.

[@trell25]

Just say you don’t understand rivalry games

[@codyl4961]

@@coryjohnson2486 they 100% got it right. FSU won’t even beat GA with JT

[@Urapnes75]

@@codyl4961you 100% got it wrong.

[@EPiiX]

Finally real sport debates going on, and none scripted.

[@Yeshuaspupil]

So much better when it is genuine like this.

[@yolothatrolo3577]

Stephen A so cool the way he walked off like that😂😂

[@camiloelias4849]

I believe this is the best "segment" I've ever seen in years! I love the 3 big dawgs sharing their respectful pro opinions. Well done Pat for staying a live wire ;)

[@julianbrown-priceman8163]

Well done ESPN. Now, send in Rex, DO and Shannon and watch how beautiful that chemistry will unfold

[@ShaneDouglas713]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@1957rcajr]

Throw out Dan, put in Ryan Clark

[@ThaOracle587]

This is the best 10 mins on ESPN in the last 5 years.

[@aaronwilson5978]

Pat is the greatest thing to happen to espn in a long time

[@countrykang1996]

I TOTALLY AGREE!! He is real and awesome

[@mikestrong3910]

He is an unwatchable person on tv. Literally there to be an idiot

[@RockyMtn5280]

This is the only thing that's helping the Disney company stay afloat from everything else bad they do recently

[@Mendoza1414]

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@RockyMtn5280 can you elaborate? Disney currently owns FOX, Marvel, ESPN, ABC, etc… what exactly are they doing “bad”

[@kyleyoung8721]

Honestly, I love Greeny's take on this. I understand why Bama is in, but I'm not ready to rule out FSU from making a game plan to take out Michigan. They'd have a month to figure out how to best prepare their 2nd string QB.

[@shoepornmagazine3482]

Especially considering how Michigan chokes in these games.

[@benmarquess1508]

This take has never made sense to me. You’re acting like Michigan doesn’t also have a month to beat a backup QB

[@shoepornmagazine3482]

Yeah we know how Michigan prepares.

[@vickiwampler9823]

Michigan would have LOVED to get to play FSU over Bama. The truth is that TCU got lucky last year, and then Georgia exposed them. FSU has even less of a chance than that TCU team did BECAUSE of the Travis injury. You don’t beat elite teams when your best play is in wildcat formation.

[@kiingdylan1054]

fsu with their backup QB isn’t better then any top 10 team the playoffs are the 4 best teams. If fsu was at 4 michigan would be so happy but it’s bama and idk if u seen michigans reaction but they do not wanna play alabama cuz they know its more challenging.

[@dewaynecastan8444]

McAfee playing both sides is so funny😂😂😂😂😂

[@bigmac27sauce59]

I hate how people just dismiss the fact TCU beat Michigan. It's probably the most disingenuous part of the debate.

[@TysonChicken]

Stephen A was absolutely SPITTING here. Cry about it

[@georgeparker8198]

This was far more entertaining than it had any business being 😂😂😂😂

[@Kevinkubandi]

This is one of the most epic moments in recent ESPN history! Pat is a legend!!!

[@bjb860]

3 headed monsters for the company

[@geeslim]

Pat McAfee and Shannon Sharpe are both breaths of fresh air for ESPN. I seriously have not consumed this much ESPN content EVER! You can also see how revitalized other journalists are with their additions. I don't think I've ever seen Stephen A. Smith with this much juice and moxy. You can tell how much fun he is having now.

[@Yeshuaspupil]

They needed them both ESPN has been getting stale for a while now.

[@aaronboone8097]

3:45….. I have never seen a single moment embody what these 3 men are about better than this! Stephen A talking very loud and animated Greeny nodding his head sarcastically And Pat just happy to be there barking into the mic!😂😂😂

[@RobbieStacks90]

The BCS was a much better system than the CFP. The BCS computers took subjectivity out of the equation.

[@wbhuyan]

What drugs are you on bro?! Lol

[@codyl4961]

The FSU bath salts is what he’s on

[@gunit8315]

Nothing drastically changed between BCS and CFP. They just added two more teams. They easily could’ve done 4 teams with BCS rankings.

[@wbhuyan]

@@codyl4961 that Flakka be hitting’ lol!

[@codyl4961]

@@wbhuyan think the weird chop thing is destroying their braincells

[@jackoneill1336]

Pat and the crew making ESPN likable again. Having these dudes on in this informal setting really made this debate feel more like just dudes at home arguing in the couch

[@7mileDT313]

This is the best thing ESPN has done in years. An informal unscripted debate with McAfee instigating Greeney and Stephan A is must see TV.

[@getclipped507]

We need this all time was an very intellectual debate I ever heard on espn.

[@tucanoguy4719]

I don’t understand the TCU argument. Everybody fails to remember that they beat Michigan to get to the national championship game.

[@timothycunningham3983]

THAT IS TRUE SEC BIAS. WITH THE HELP OF ESPN. THEY PUSHED FOR ALL OF THIS. NEXT YEAR I HOPE IT WILL BE DIFFERENT. NO SEC BIAS!

[@luciascashmere984]

Umm so tcu didn't beat Michigan first?

[@UmichVince]

As a Michigan fan this is the point of how stupid the committee is. TCU LOST to k-state still put them in and beat us fair and square

[@aaronriley8632]

When pat said “ all this is kinda y’all’s faults” I died 🤣🤣

[@dylansh99]

You can't fault a team for how you think they would perform in the playoff and just overlook their record.

[@chriswoolard7962]

Yeah you can. And they did.

[@loganhowlett01]

FSU isn't Notre Dame

[@JalapenoSteve]

lol @@loganhowlett01

[@hiIMbeau]

Dude says “watch the glass windows” 😂

[@GildedWarrior331]

This trio is legendary

[@17NateJohnson]

Sports talk is LOVING this. Content GOLD!!!

[@mr.green2341]

Looks like Pat McAfee told them how WWE works before the cameras rolled here.

[@SportsTruthwithJordanHarris]

Sooo... Uh.... This is EXCELLENT television. 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾 Thoroughly entertained.

[@alonzolincoln8745]

it didn't factor in for Ohio st in 2016

[@godman6397]

Need way more of this. Loved it

[@djsugarbear6715]

Let them play. They earned it. A committee shouldn't say they can't win....they haven't been given the chance they earned.

[@h2g__dagoat768]

Stephen A needs to stop talking college sports.

[@michaeldavis4338]

Best sports show/clip I’ve seen in years!

[@dannygreen1985]

Thank yew ESPN !!!!

[@_Hluxe]

Love the new ESPN crew! They’re finally entertaining again

[@carlscott-c1p]

Why don't ESPN ever talk about Alabama barely beating Auburn on a Hail Mary pass? We wouldn't be talking about this if that prayer fell incomplete.

[@warnerjones9932]

How did Alabama look vs Auburn? Or USF?

[@sinon.9394]

How’d they look against Georgia?

[@warnerjones9932]

@@sinon.9394 How'd Georgia look against Georgia Tech....since the Sec is so much better than ACC

[@pnut3844able]

Or USF

[@levijaroslaw9571]

how’d fsu look against boston college or a bad florida team starting a true freshman who’s never thrown more than 5 passes in a game 😹😹😹

[@sinon.9394]

Georgia was on a 20+ game winning streak and Alabama beat them like let’s be real here also if FSU is so good are they going to beat Georgia when they play or is that going to be a beat down?

[@sams2871]

What y’all are missing is that CFP top 4 isn’t just power rankings or just standings. It’s a great combination of who DESERVES to be there and who NEEDS to be there. If we go completely off deserving, the top four are Michigan, Washington, FSU, and Liberty (which is bs). If we’re going off power rankings, it’s something in the realm of Georgia, Michigan, Ohio State, and Alabama (which is also bs). The CFP committee did a great job of blending these two systems together to give us a playoff that’s at the same time viable but also well-earned, as all four teams are power 5 conference champs.

[@mrcoachcoach]

This is Auburn's fault for rushing 2 guys on the last play of the game, ending in the Milroe Miracle!

[@josem9689]

I think they should’ve done a 6 team playoffs all along. 4 is too little and 12 teams I feel like is too many teams but I guess we’ll see how it plays out next season.

[@MrJayKay11]

12 makes it undeniable

[@josem9689]

@@MrJayKay11 sure but there’s always going to be a team or two that feels like they got left out. Even with 12 teams, the 13th and 14th team is going to be like they should’ve been in. The BCS system use to be 2 teams so with 6 it’s more than enough.

[@choccolocco]

@@MrJayKay11 There will still be the crybabies.

[@jakec9086]

Apparently "style points" is beating a mediocre team with a hail mary on 4th and goal from the 31.

[@varunaX]

how can you be 4th and goal if you are on the 31

[@jakec9086]

@varunaX because they couldn't get a another first down. They started within the 10

[@joeperez3520]

Stephen A. spot on when it comes to the "juice." A lot of the "secondary" bowls were probably foaming at the mouth early in the season at the chance to have Colorado in their bowl game, just for the recognition and TV ratings.

[@andrewmartinez7844]

I love that a Former NFL Punter is the new owner of ESPN

[@TheLOD2099]

Would have loved to see Pat Mc going full Al Pacino,” You’re out of order! You’re out of order, This whole court is out of order!”

[@johngleason1776]

That Prime Time take was perfect. It's so true

[@mattcarberry368]

"my subjective opinion is better than the committee's subjective decision!" - the summary of everyone whining about who was left out and who got in (which happens EVERY SINGLE YEAR NO MATTER WHAT incase you guys haven't noticed lol)

[@pnut3844able]

It should all be objective stats that determine it. These aren't playoffs, they're invitationals

[@mattcarberry368]

@@pnut3844able ok use nothing but "objective stats" like the BCS computers did...... nobody ever complained about that or called teams who got left out "unfair", never any controversy or outrage over those rankings huh LOL how do you not understand that no matter what they do, no matter what teams get in, no matter who gets left out, no matter how expanded the playoffs get...... PEOPLE WILL STILL JUST WHINE AND COMPLAIN ABOUT IT

[@stevekeeling7988]

I love this!! I need this every day

[@Ostro1980]

Michigan vs Washington is the matchup the country wants to see

[@crzycolchris]

I'm washington will get pasted like every other Pac 12 team since USC 🤣🤣

[@NicholasHughes-fh8ig]

No it’s not lol 😂

[@Ostro1980]

@@NicholasHughes-fh8ig Then what is it?

[@NicholasHughes-fh8ig]

@@Ostro1980 I haven’t heard one person say or mention “ I want to watch the Washington huskies “ I get Michigan tho

[@brandonleonard3347]

I see a lot more people saying Texas vs Alabama. You don’t think the Committee set this up for a rematch? 🤨 that’s going to be more of a watched game across the country.

[@Rabela675]

Are they going to argue next year about a team being left out of the 12 team playoff?

[@KingRooney89]

The amount of pop culture refs these guys drops is incredible. PMS is the best

[@jayburnham3994]

Refreshing content. Back to basics.

[@Boneman9000]

Yo. This was entertaining AF 🤣

[@coryjohnson2486]

I think they got it RIGHT by putting Alabama over FSU. Beating #1 Georgia is MASSIVE, and FSU is too weak to be in the top 4. Even with an undefeated record and conference championship, Alabama deserves to get in over FSU… and I can’t stand Bama. I could see an argument either way tho.. that’s just my opinion.

[@pnut3844able]

Then why is FSU above UGA? Also Texas lost to #14 OK and got in, and FSU beats #14 UL and gets left out? Smh

[@coryjohnson2486]

@@pnut3844able yeah that’s not a bad argument, but I think they’re leaning harder on how Bama and FSU look RIGHT NOW. FSU’s QB going down could have been the “tiebreaker” in making the decision (even if u don’t believe that should factor in). This is why we need AT LEAST 8 teams in the playoffs each season. 4 spots just isn’t enough.

[@poolhall9632]

The NFL analogy is bulletproof.

[@marquisethomas5611]

This is gold 🤣

[@jaywatts7837]

Omg the South Park reference 😂😂😂

[@drn13355]

ACC commissioner voted against going to a 12 team playoff this season.

[@JW-wr4ep]

I swear McAffee makes magic out of this informal basement setting. Bring back Lou Holtz.

[@fknalexander]

greeny said, " well obly the ones they can do better." 🤣

[@Kordellll]

I needed this

[@TheBlindArcher.]

Thank you Greeny. Texas should be out.

[@marcomoon6062]

This was fun. Debating, not arguing, and good points. More!

[@donroberson5097]

Alabama did not look good against Alburn the week before

[@bradleybrown5614]

Computers don't just watch every game, they watch every play and some even watch individual players. no human is capable of that.

[@markguernsey184]

Also the ACC commissioner voted against a 12 team playoff expansion moving up to this season. So if FSU is mad it should be directed at the ACC.

[@crownest2818]

This is why pat is the best

[@AlfieAlmeda]

I really miss ESPN when it was just games, highlights, and Outside the Lines. Everyday from sun up til sundown when the games start, it's literally just dudes yelling at each other on EVERY ESPN CHANNEL.

[@amain7965]

Pat is cracking me up. I love this mess. Im on Greeny’s side to be clear.

[@nrome49]

hardly knew what tf they were talking about but was highly entertained

[@Mcflynerdyguy]

FSU can blame themselves. We would have a 12 team playoff this year, but the ACC commissioner and the FSU AD blocked it

[@anonymousbiscuit5799]

That's not why it didn't happen stop running with that BS because some bold head dude in ESPN and SEC network keeps saying it. That's not the whole story why 3 of the 5 power conferences rejected the offer to start it this year.

[@Jay12era]

Espn from 8-3 is pure gold😂

[@landonjarrett1800]

I hate the NFL argument. 133 college teams vs 30 NFL. It’s not the same

[@PhonyBalagna]

Funny how many people screeched at me back when i said i thought the BCS system just needed tweaked a little not scrapped completely. Now those people are screeching about the committee being biased

[@noelramirez1551]

Lol when you get the most annoying people in one room

[@daniel.rivera]

Greenberg is the only person saying the truth.

[@heathbooth609]

These stooges left out an undefeated P5 conference champion because of hypothetical situations. Stephen A keeps talking about the teams that Alabama beat. They won't talk about the loss, which FSU has ZERO. The whole system is broken. Everything is stupid and we reward teams on what they look like, not what their results are.

[@GeorgeHarrentsian]

Greeny's reasoning is basically saying if a group of 5 team goes 13-0 they should make the 4 team playoff regardless of how they would fair against the other power 5 schools

[@wrduardo1]

A playoff without the SEC is null and void. To be the best you have to beat the best.

[@likecake]

Lol the SEC is the 4th, maybe even 5th best conference this year 😂

[@christopherwilliams477]

Thank you for all of the Buckeye love we’ve been getting today! ❤❤❤

[@williamthompson3946]

Buckeyes are better than texas . Ohio lost at Michigan the number 1 team by small margin

[@christopherwilliams477]

@@williamthompson3946 all true facts ✅

[@kcizzlewilson1260]

Since they were doing unprecedented stuff and the 12-team playoff is coming next year, just do a play-in for the 3rd and 4th spot and let the teams play for it. FSU vs Alabama and Georgia vs Texas. Winners are in and ranked based on their current rankings.

[@jackschmit277]

Wait, so now ESPN doesn't think Bama should be in the playoff?

[@tylerwestcott8737]

Love how the boys start yelling just because

[@tharengore7215]

I want to see Greeny on Rodgers Tuesday along with SAS. 😅

[@benburnside5049]

It doesnt matter if Jordan Travis is injured. The TEAM of a BIG 5 Conference went undefeated and one the ACC Championship without Travis

[@zoomsday3999]

Every year the committee changes there criteria..smh

[@teganwho8653]

If Dion was the coach of FSU would be three and five in the CFP championship would not even in the realm of possibility 😂😂😂😂

[@brucegelman5582]

Funny how no one INCLUDING Georgia is complaining they didnt get in.

[@matthewcantrell4782]

Have 3 conferences with N,S,E,W regions. Winners N plays S, E plays W. Winner gets by, and the other 3 get into 12 team playoff. It's not complicated