Italy Makes Worst Light Tank, Asked To Leave NATO

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There are plenty of bad tanks in War Thunder, but few are as frustrating to use as the Italian C13 T90 light. Despite having an enclosed turret, the crew is vulnerable to even coaxial MGs. The 90mm has relatively poor penetration, an average reload rate, and poor damage. In the blog post about it, Gaijin devs were having a difficult time finding anything positive to say, and I can see why.
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Italy Makes Worst Light Tank, Asked To Leave NATO

[@Airlessarc]

11:00 "does everyone know you can .50 cal this thing?" No, American mains just hold space bar at everything that shoots at them

[@cjaydustie1867]

True

[@really14444]

can confirm

[@mage_mini1945]

Affirmative!

[@BloopTube]

It never hurts.

[@I-I464]

​@@BloopTube hurts your ammo

[@Last_Baguette0001]

Another video where Spookston tortures himself for our entertainment

[@forsakenplant]

👀

[@arandomnobody8054]

This is the way

[@akmask1258]

Peak entertainment

[@olefey4791]

Ah so every war thunder contest creator ever?

[@bahamutdragon1754]

@@olefey4791 Everyone except for OddBawz, who has escaped the Gaijin curse. That guy never seems to be unhappy when playing.

[@crsmith6226]

I actually really like watching spookston happy, that sturm video where’s he’s laughing and having fun was great

[@Invwashere]

Same here, these new videos where he is just f*in around on terrible vehicles are great im having some great laffs at spooks expense haahha

[@tristansalagoste4486]

Same!

[@thesaddestdude3575]

Actually honestly i like that tank, ive done very well with it!

[@cnm7558]

fr hes so cute when happy

[@I-I464]

​@@cnm7558😳

[@DrunkenCzechGaming]

You could try object 268. I think its pretty strong with that 152mm cannon and 14,5mm heavy machine gun.

[@Germanempireaboolilel]

It's also quite fast for a heavy tank destroyer.

[@PitchIncorrection]

Object 268 is probably my favorite casemate in the game

[@cunicularius2064]

I actually prefer the 12254. It's surprisingly sneaky at times.

[@CrustaceanAllergyEnjoyer]

Both good in op 6.7 lineup for ussr

[@maledetto1221]

8:24 I had this problem too, sometimes I burn to death even if someone helps me. The weird part is that afterwards it's like I'm lagging: I can start moving but get pushed back in position, if I shoot the round doesn't cause any damage and I can shoot instantly again(this time without the round, just the recoil animation)

[@jensn.1457]

Has happened me aswell, twice even, such an annoying bug

[@boss9mustang404]

Bug Thunder

[@thebudgieadmiral5140]

I tried multiple times to help an ally fight a fire and not even the fire icon disappeared, yeah...

[@Lomni]

Had this happen at least twice, others ingame said it's a regular occurrence.

[@Fughzet]

gaijined

[@idkanymore5239]

Truly one of the Italian tanks Momentos of all time

[@bornonthebattlefront4883]

Fr

[@lonewanderer2797]

It was a prototype and it never left the stage of prototype, it shouldn't be added in the first place

[@s.shadow8094]

@@lonewanderer2797 but you know...gaijin

[@StarkRaven59]

@@lonewanderer2797 There's a ton of those at this point. If you want only vehicles that saw official production, you'd be cutting out a significant amount of game content, especially for the minor trees.

[@SaucyAlfredo]

The fire extinguisher not working for helping others has been like that for a while. Funny how one of the Battlepass challenges was to help others and you couldn't do one of them

[@iMoD190]

repair challenges are way easier in naval

[@danawr45]

Me and my friends just load into the G6 and dmg and repair each other

[@user-dt3qb7cg5c]

That's so annoying, I bought leo 1a1 on previous week, so i was so frustratted being killed several times by fire on it, while my allies were not able to help me

[@jonathanvautour7899]

So the c13 t90, beyond being a below average vehicle, has two significant things against it in context. It sits at 6.7, with no other Italian ground vehicles (Italy has a strong 6.3) but also at 6.3 Italy gets the aubl with the same gun, which his effectively better in most concrete ways (strong lineup, same gun lower br, simmilar survivability, much better mobility)

[@guv5718]

the mobility of the c13 is better than the aubl except on roads. it would be better if the c13 was at 6.3 as well so players could have a choice of which to use in that lineup

[@TR33ZY_CRTM]

Actually, the C13 T90 isn't alone at 6.7, for it has the Italian M26 Pershing to accompany it.

[@guv5718]

@@TR33ZY_CRTM the m26 is 6.3

[@X_RayLT]

@@TR33ZY_CRTM no, the pershing is 6.3 aswell

[@TR33ZY_CRTM]

💀

[@tronk5598]

i love this vehicle tbh, you dont get overpressured and your hull is immune to 50 cals, also the 90mm heatfs can be used in uptiers

[@Spookston]

.50 cals can pen the side through the radiator, that's how the M48A2 disabled my driver

[@the_burger]

The fact that turret is paper makes the hull dead weight

[@Deniggafyer]

@@Spookston UHHMMMM, whos gonna tell him?

[@tronk5598]

@@Spookston idk as an italy main that has this spaded i never had issues with the hull, mustve gotten lucky

[@tronk5598]

Also to be honest i commented before watching lol

[@SdKfz-gq8bh]

8:15 its been like this for a couple of months now, being on the recieving end sucks so much, but it sucks way more that there was a battlepass challenge for it, wich was made way harder due to that bug

[@impguardwarhamer]

I think this features been bugged for longer than its been working

[@Odibio.Skins.]

yea i had the same i think it doesnt work at all

[@lolzers7986]

I main italy and i remember the only reason i was looking forward to getting this tank is that i saw its hull was resistant to .50 cals, and italy only has one vehicle at 6.3 that can actually stop .50's But then i realised it had the same turret the AUBL has, with only 8mm of armor on it and 2 of the 3 crew in it And then gaijin gave me a talisman for it later down the line

[@GhostWolf743]

The C13 T90 is one of those tanks you look at in the armor preview and think why would they add this, then you play it and realize it's surprisingly better than a lot of other vehicles Italy gets. It's one of my favorite Italian tanks to play personally.

[@ABluesBrother]

only thing missing is an appropriate 6.7 lineup, but we can always wait for the next BR update for them to raise fiat and aubl...

[@theranger7924]

@@ABluesBrother wait seriously? Finally I hate fighting this things at 5.3

[@ABluesBrother]

@@theranger7924 no, and i hope not also. how can you meet this at 5.3 ? its 6.7 right now

[@bipbap5079]

I personally prefer the AUBL it has about equal mobility but more situational, much much smaller, same gun, and a lineup.

[@TheNavalAviator]

So, Gaijin in their quest for infinite content added an Armoured Personnel Carrier that hasn't got actual armour to speak of in a game with no infantry...

[@coujodabear1373]

It seems like all vehicles in the Italian tree are pure CAS magnets... no matter what tier

[@fakename5881]

love your editing as of late. its rare for videos to make me laugh, let alone war thunder ones but the comedic timing of your commentary and editing is impeccable. keep up the good work

[@The_Cozy_Couch]

I would highly recommend the IKV 91. It got a little more overpowered when they added the laser rangefinder, which is what is usually talked about, but what I find unique about it is that it has an excellent response time. It seems like one of the better all-rounders outside the US tank tree.

[@suthiraksb]

I've played it since it's 6.7. Its laser rangefinder is the game changer. You don't have to show yourself because its shell is HEATFS which have same damage at every range. And because it's HEATFS, it have drop ratw which you can shoot behind the terrain while enemy can't see you.

[@SteveIsHavingMC]

its overpowered as fuck

[@jari2018]

true the armour were 4 mm at places - suffcient to bounce ak.47 bullets at distance

[@altaccount4697]

Yes, IKV 91 rocks. Love that thing. But annoyingly, the IKV 91 can swim in real life but not in the game.

[@warris9010]

Loving the edits and commentary on this, really like the evolution in content you've gone through over the past years (and it was already really good). :)

[@notaname1750]

6:09 there is an ammo rack there next to the driver but gaijin made it so that it isn’t the primary storage area for the centurion mk1

[@fsynorth2341]

i played this thing for a while, it was literal hell without premium and it being the highest BR tank in my lineup despite being that bad. the only success i had with it was peeking walls in reverse so the enemy shoots the empty back of the tank and does nothing, also the scope magnification is fun

[@spyrichie]

I would love to see you try the L3/33 CC if you haven't already. Btw I just found your channel and really enjoy your content!

[@Zaeryth_Redtail]

Honestly loving these videos especially this. Perfect length amount of funny but also just bein real. Keep it up!

[@Crazcosmopwnu]

Again, love the editing and memes thrown in. The perfect seasoning for this delightful meal

[@duncanrolinson5502]

these live commentary videos have gotten ao much better. great work

[@IG88TheRobot]

Spook, Can you do a video on the M60-2000/120s? Would be cool. Would it have a place in WT as the next progression to the M60A3 or a Premium/EV?

[@ussalabama2870]

You know you have a bad APC when wearing plates drastically increases survivability.

[@ShiverMeTimbers93]

Gotta say it's good for CQB, and I wish Gaijin added more of its variants. Can you try one of the OF-40's?

[@crazyadam9281]

only if you can reliably hit ammo racks because it's shell has as much damage as a soggy piece of bread.

[@ShiverMeTimbers93]

@@crazyadam9281 Also the dispersion is awful, sometimes even in arcade shells would go off course

[@bornonthebattlefront4883]

@@ShiverMeTimbers93 true But most of the Italian tanks have that issue so I think that’s how gaijin balances them Tanks like this is why the Italian player base is so skilled They have to work with tanks that are much more difficult My best game in this tank was a 12 kill game and 6 assists I then got a nuke So There is that

[@ShiverMeTimbers93]

@@bornonthebattlefront4883 Issue is that even if the vehicles are good on paper, the guns in general and calibers are unbalanced and all over the place. Some planes are missing bombs, and literally no fighters in this tech tree get air spawn unless the match automatically does it

[@1nv15BL3]

@@ShiverMeTimbers93 Welcome to the Italian tech tree, enjoy your hell.

[@lzuhn8567]

Thanks for doing the longer video format I think, others also noticed and liked it!

[@hardcase722]

Love the longer videos! Also the little gifs of memes that you use always catch me off guard. Keep up the great work and I hope that you’re staying healthy and safe over the winter holidays!

[@Camero737]

Since you mentioned the m56 mind if you play it? It’s one of my favorites since you can get to fun spots and hide and kill most things even at high br.

[@ItsDatGuy969]

With how calm spookston’s voice is, 3:40 genuinely caught me off guard

[@lancehamlett3054]

Really liking this format for vids. Keep it up bro!

[@Sssaaatttuuurrrnnn]

I haven't played War Thunder in years, but I just love your editing style. The memes and images you put in are always perfectly used.

[@dipinblack]

you should try the ultimate 5.7 germany curbstomper, centurion mk1(it is honestly quite impressive how incredibly often you get downtiers in it)

[@Gary_The_Metro]

It's due to the 6.0 BR, play any nation 6.0 and you'll often get favourable BR's. Simple reason being: Very few nations have 7.0 tanks, and even fewer have proper lineups for them so it is basically a dead BR. People who play 7.0 generally just end up including their 7.3 tanks, and the ones who do play 7.0 just get dragged up to 8.0 which is a pretty filled BR range.

[@MediumRareOpinions]

​@@Gary_The_MetroMakes sense as to why 6.0s were some of my best times climbing the tech tree. Beyond that there was only pain

[@Gary_The_Metro]

@Sandwiches. I outright skipped from 6.7 until 9.7 on the US tree. Grinded my way to 9.7 by just playing 6.0 and 6.7 (never 6.3) and now I have a decent lineup at 10.7/11.0 I really don't see the appeal of cold war tanks tbh.

[@FatherGrigori]

I'm a big fan of your gameplay videos, and it sounds like you enjoy them as well

[@GHOSTOFONYX10]

genuinely your funniest video, great editing and commentary

[@fungunfanatic]

lol imagine having a tank and anyone with an AK could just destroy you.

[@Castlecrashing]

The memes were superb in this video. The AVRE one specifically killed me, but all of them were on point.

[@anthonator8810]

one thing i think may make for interesting videos, videos about suggested lineups not singular tanks, to give viewers an idea of what to push for as a stable lineup, some of my favorites before i took a break from the game were 4.0 max america with 3 shermans and cant recall what (been a minute), 4.0 max russia with 4 t-34s, 2 kv1's in that br and below, and many others

[@jacobhehr9489]

this was probably the funniest video yet spookston, gg and thank you for your sacrifice

[@iqstrats1250]

“You can’t even get spotted or you just die.” Welcome to Italy, Spookston. Half of the tech tree is medium Shermans that don’t get Sherman armor, even on angleing. I will recommend the 4.7 case mate that behaves like a STUG and eats KV-1 shot like a champ when angled.

[@who2764]

The hull looks like the early bradley prototype ngl. And i woud like to see the ARL - 44, mainly cause of how good it looks

[@hijinkstodeath1722]

The editing killed me on this one. Love this video.

[@Excessive_complaining]

Was super excited to try this thing before I researched the aubl. After the aubl it made me hold a special aversion to heat in general but none more than 90mm heat.

[@firstnamelastname5310]

I wish APCs would have the troops they could carry as part of the crew. They would just serve as backup crew. While helping with FPE doesnt work (extra fun cause it was one of the requirements for a battlepass mission", I guess we have to be happy that helping with repairing doesnt just increase the repair time.

[@Raymondcz]

That has happened 8:25 every single time I tried to help someone. They should fix the game I suppose.

[@bornonthebattlefront4883]

HE DID IT! THANKS SPOOK! I love this thing! It got me my first ever nuke!

[@Tyime]

Love the new longer style!

[@NigelBlitz213]

Its funny how my first ever nuke was achieved thanks to this thing, and from my experience even before the nuke this thing was actually quite fun to play, especially when I use HESH. I find HESH to be a lot more preferable to HEAT in a lot of my games.

[@nounoursvert8448]

Hey Spook, how about giving the AMX-10RC a go ? Since y'know you compared it to the WMA/PTL in one of your other videos.

[@prancer8934]

Why would anyone compare those 2 things D: (except maybe to point out how bust the chinese stabilized ones are)

[@applejhon8308]

Nice to see more Italian tank vids

[@khajaja]

Digging the longer videos, jokes are great too

[@Conraf]

How about the Conqueror? at 7.7 it has rounds that can kill everything it sees, I had a blast playing it

[@Jebotito]

You better kill with the shot or else you're dead tho

[@nathanielgrim7388]

As an Italian main, I question my sanity constantly, and this began with the C-13.

[@K.Marx48]

I'm Italian but I didn't touch them past 3.7 lol

[@psymon7034]

Would be a fun follow-up to try the ratel 90, another heat troop carrying vehicle

[@V4shStampede]

Great video as always. Big fan. That dubious little fart noise meme though? No good.

[@serdarcam99]

its so funny that on american veichles ammo goes orange and whole veichle collapses while russian crews having fun right next to exploding ammo rack

[@Juel92]

Meantime a mild breeze instagibs almost any swedish vehicle.

[@user-rs5ui5lg5i]

BMP1 )))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

[@kristian2936]

what is your opinion in the new t80u2m or whatever it was called that is coming up?

[@Spookston]

Russia suffers clearly

[@AveragePootis]

I don't really know why they added this thing, it's literally the AUBL 74 but slightly more mobile and significantly larger. It's even got the same turret so it can still be killed by a 7.62 from the front. And they still put it at 6.7, while the aubl is 6.3

[@cmsIGauffahrgestellPanzerkampf]

Any chance you could do the Conqueror next? I love the IRL Conqueror but I barely hear anything about it in warthunder and i dont have it myself so i wonder how it performs on your end.

[@ryanwilbur3554]

The fact that there is a wheeled light with the exact same turret and ammo types at a lower br is crazy

[@furious-ninja3324]

which?

[@drmaulana2600]

@@furious-ninja3324 AUBL74

[@furious-ninja3324]

@@drmaulana2600Ah yes i forgot about those.

[@bluesclues1904]

Bro did my Italians dirty 😭

[@derekburge5294]

Spooks: shits on Italian tank. Also Spooks: placed first on team at 4:09

[@hhale]

It's supposed to carry 9 infantry in the back, thus the reason there is no extra ammo storage there. Designed through a partnership of two private companies as a replacement for the M113, it never went into production.

[@mains8913]

Mars 15? I don't think I've seen one in like the last 3 months

[@mains8913]

ASU-85 is quite miserable too imo

[@bubby9175]

Since you love 50 cals and low damage heat tossing tanks then you should play the Chinese PT-76.😊

[@spiffywolf2850]

Loved this its good seeing ya happy

[@Faden47]

After spading the shitwagon thats the aubl 74 this thing was very pleasant so I never felt bad with it, on a side note could you play the T55E1 havent seen that thing in a while?

[@pumpkintheproto]

Part 6 of asking for M4A3E2 76 (W)

[@CT-1902]

I am loving this new format already

[@defus6590]

i really like the longer video format, way more entertaining to watch

[@thescotishclonetrooperecho7773]

Have you tried the crusader Mk.3? It's actually a very good light tank that combines a low profile, great gun and fast speed(+scouting so cheap fucking CAS) for a brilliant vehicle at only 3.0, I have the crusader in most of lineups 3.0+, brilliant tank and good for killing tigers that are preoccupied trying to kill a jumbo that's sitting 20 metres away

[@filipszmyd390]

That was one of your best videos ever. Got me laughing entire time. Keep up the good work Spook!

[@mrpotato7482]

your videos have been getting hella much better spook, surely you do a video on the IKV 91?

[@invader_guy1171]

Love how he goes "this vehicle sucks" while also getting more kills than I'll ever get in this game

[@heliogonzalezsanchez8227]

I don't know if this was already suggested, but could you play the Amx 50 foch ? the reverse speed has been buffed a lot and now it's a bit better that before

[@rhystaylor851]

Would be cool to see a video on another chonky HEAT slinger, the german DF105. Maybe bring the 7.7 Rakt-panzer as a backup

[@pvdc229]

Really like the random memes, add spiciness to the situation

[@Cris-xy2gi]

I love how the T92 has a HEATFS round as around the same pen, while reloading faster, having a higher velocity, and being lower caliber. But it also has APDS, a much lower profile, and a .50 cal, at the same BR.

[@Blue_onyxxxTTV]

Seeing you play the type60 SPRG would be nice, I've had a lot of fun in the thing.

[@toki_tsu_kaze5511]

As bad as it may looks like, is the only vehicle that uses the cockerill that has the potential to be effective in battle, it makes the aubl74 or the ratel feel like a 5.3 vehicle due to how effective the the c13 chassis is

[@brian-us6vw]

love the music. Command and conquer Generals was such a nice game ...

[@BenPrattJin]

Nice C&C Generals - USA soundtrack you have in the background there.

[@cromwell8425]

Very epic video ! Can you do please the semovente 90/53 ? It is a tank destroyer with an insane gun with.. one small issue, 8 ammo.

[@MPdude237]

This was a nice video to watch. Can you do the final Soviet Heavies? Can you do IS-7 + T-10M? Maybe also include the Obj 279 if you are feeling like fighting 9.7 uptiers.

[@klimpomp]

Infinite bonus points for the viensauce speen. Thank you my love

[@yep6947]

you should try the chinese TY-90 AAMs on the helicopters you can get 4 of them on a 9.3 heli, 8 on higher tier helis, they have a big range and eccm, and you can spawn with them instantly

[@Simseh729]

that locust hiding inside a bombed out building really made me chuckle

[@HotRod1776]

id like to see a video over the kv-122 i was considering getting it since the IS-2 was moved to 6.0 and 5.7 russia kinda got shafted personally because of it and id like to see the historical part of it too along with the kv-85

[@meesguyy]

how about giving the Eland/AML 90 a try? I quite like the eland in the british tree grind

[@o-hogameplay185]

could you play the japanese Ho-I? It is a terminator at 2.0 (it has 460g tnt in 75mm APHE. also chi-nu hull at 2.0, so it has armor and speed. if the APHE is not enough it has 90mm heat, and 12mm pen HE, that is good against pz iii and iv)

[@Psykanetic]

So I was wondering if you could do some videos on some more generic tanks. And your thoughts on them like the Sherman's. T34s and pz4s. And also I don't see much about the Swedish tree maybe take a look at it! Alright have a great one

[@haircake6102]

Jerma on a Spookston video?! This is a dream come true. Also I’m loving your channel more and more

[@canned__meat]

I am currently researching this thing and I've never seen anyone play it and I don't remember seeing anyone use it. I wanted to see what it was like. The first 10 seconds of this video pretty well set the pace 🤣🤣

[@matias4336]

Reminds me of the ABUL/74 HVG, with the same problem when you pen someone and the 50 cals

[@philfree286]

I wonder if you can try playing the T-80UK. It’s one of my favorite tank so that’s why I decided to invest in it. But I’ve never seen a T-80UK in any of my game and I keep having down tier matches (not like it’s bothering me)

[@mosesracal6758]

It looks a lot like Sabrah's ASCOD II, except im pretty sure that the ASCOD has protection against up to 14.5 mm rounds

[@n1co2017]

pretty sure the cent mk1 does have an amo rack in the front i think the dude was just carrying less ammo so it was empty. i somehow have bounced this thing’s ufp with the 120 mm cannon on the t34 once but it was awhile ago i have never seen one since i have seen them die in the kill feed without getting a single kill tho.

[@rags417]

The turret armour is excellent for keeping the sun off the crews' heads.

[@CaptJohn-bl8is]

Was that C&C Generals Zero Hour music at the start of the video?

[@sushiman3817]

I think the panther 2s damage model is broken or something rn because I also had the exact same issue with shooting his turret and nothing happening. Mine was with the French 100 tho and it ate 3 direct flat hits.