Italy's declining population fuels long-term economic uncertainty

Italy's aging citizens coupled with low birth rates are shrinking the country's population. Experts are now looking to reverse the trend to boost future economic growth, Euronews correspondent Giorgia Orlandi reports.
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[@dekev7503]

"If women are able to work they'll have more children" that makes absolutely no sense 🤔. Women work in Japan, Korea and China and their population is significantly shrinking. Most women in the workplace do not have kids because of their jobs. Working women even make coupling harder because they have significantly higher expectations from their men, ie if a woman is educated and high earning, she's definitely going to demand that her partner is either on her level or higher, thus reducing the amount of suitable partners ( or partners that they consider suitable).

[@Madikon07]

You think that it is bad? No way, sexist racist meh who think that woman should give more birth, no it does not work in that way

[@toyotaprius79]

Work steals all available time for family and care

[@ehmzed]

Yeah that was a counterintuitive and strange statement. There are definitely other factors that play into an aging population and low fertility rate, I don't really see how less women in the workforce would lead to less children. Germany and Sweden might have better measures to incentivise both working women and making more children, and not have the same problems as Italy or Japan. One thing isn't necessarily the cause of the other.

[@dekev7503]

@@ehmzed I live in Germany, its just as bad. The Birth rate here is 1.53 babies per woman ( 2.1 is replacement rate and anything less is depletion) even with the very generous maternity programs that they have ( like 2 year government funded maternity leave), affordable healthcare, free education, etc. Unfortunately it seems like the less "empowered" women are, the more likely they are to prove their worth in society by doing the 1 thing that only they can do ( child bearing). The truth is that western countries were myopic in their fight for gender "equality". They pushed for women inclusion in the workplace and all but demonised traditional maternal roles. They also shamed masculinity, inadvertently making men less attractive to women. This has turned society on its head because women no longer find pride in motherhood and the ones that do aren't finding men worth starting families with.

[@TheShadowPerson.]

@@dekev7503 Women were sold the idea of taking the male gender roles as well as keeping some female gender roles. Doesn't make a very happy person.

[@watwudscoobydoo1770]

All your young people left because you choose propping up boomer benefits over investing in young peoples future and that’s what happens. This same issue is coming for a lot of countries

[@mermaidaughter7]

Thats true here in America too. The college education is bleak while the elderly gotta have 50k in benefits haha yet the young are left to pay the bill but can berly feed themselves

[@wamnicho]

@@mermaidaughter7 young people are stupid for continuing to participate in that scheme. I tell young people, don't have kids, just live for yourself, no one in government cares about you, they only care about themselves and their comforts and having a golden retirement

[@liopleurodon155]

That's what you get in a democracy where a larger cohort (boomers) simply outnumbers younger cohorts in pure voting power.

[@thomas316]

True, pensions and healthcare get all the funding and we tax the workers. We create our own hell.

[@johnbattle7518]

​@@mermaidaughter7🤔How? There so makor social welfare in the US like in Italy or the rest of the EU. Your generation wants to mooch off of the government

[@jesussaquin6266]

Pathetic, old people make up burdening laws and then complain why no one is having kids.

[@valeriocantore9286]

Italian here... Basically another problem is the work prospective in Italy, for 40 hours every week the average salary is 850€, but if you are fresh from university is even worse like 500 or even 400 for a junior software dev. How can you have a future?. This is why most of the young people has or wants to leave Italy, inside my group of friends everyone has basically left, including myself.

[@constantinenm]

Supporters of the far-right organization "National Movement" posted in Rome about Colosseum banner in honor of the 100th anniversary of the campaign of fascist dictator Benito Mussolini on Rome. This is reported by The Guardian.

[@dolphmilitia]

Compare Italy/Europe to global countries with different cultures and you'll see It's NOTHING to do with salaries and incomes, and EVERYTHING to do with Marx1sm and subversive culture. But of course, normies and NPCs aren't ready to deal with reality.

[@toyotaprius79]

I hope your friends don't consider coming to Ireland. Everyone is leaving because of the ridiculous expense to live and rent

[@abdelmaleksamir2672]

That is not the average salary, you are wrong definitely

[@izzyci]

Roma invicta

[@tommasovasta8323]

Italy is old. It's a bureaucratic hell that is typical of old levantin system. Italy failed into sorting or at least reducing the gap between the more productive and dynamic North (especially Milan and Lombardia) and the inefficient, partially still rural and corrupted South administrated by some of the worst politicians on all UE. Italy has an insane level of taxation that keeps away most of new investors (apart from Milan, only exepction). Italy spends too little funds in reaserching and education system preferring wasting in unproductive welfare as "reddito di cittadinanza" (sort of universal credit) and unreasonably elitaristic high pensions or for unproductive burocrats of the State. Italy has still strong and economically invasive mafias in some areas of the country. Italy has always been birthplace of huge talent and creativity. Aside the Roman Empire, it has been the heart of the Reinassance, the country of the first bank and university, the land of great architects (from Palladio to Renzo Piano), painters, merchants and explorers (Cristopher Columbus, Marco Polo), designers, brands etc. but at the moment Italy doesn't almost have any significant initiative or innovation and most of its iconic companies have been bought by foreign groups or conglomarets. Honestly I can't see how this very particular country can rise up without a "drammatic" reform of its own structure...

[@DionisoBaco.]

It’s a contradiction the country candle of renaissance and with many successful companies in the world is dying.

[@piccolafamiglia3063]

Women able to work are in a position to have more children? How nonsense. Sure we are all superhuman, having children ,working, looking after school, house all!! What are men exactly for nowdatys since we do all! I am Italian, mum of three expat lived in Ireland, Germany and now Spain..I have more around 10 female cousins and 2 sisters, all childless. It is not work Finance related. It is a choice, out various circumstances ( separation, no partner, waiting too long) but a choice and it is culturally and the way they want to live related. Our society has created weak and superficial men and most people who are so into themselves that have no real willingness to give that up to sacrifice their ego to dedicate themselves entirely to someone else because that is being a mum and a parent. But in our society mums have a bigger burden than ever before because they to do it all literally( at least in the past the man was the financial provider and protector, now these weak men don't even do that). Mums have to do it all and society takes it completely for granted. Mums are literally slaves, often criticized, but raraly given any credit or solidarity. And people wonder why there are fewer children? I don't wonder at all. It is Christal clear. I bet the woman journalist of this news report have no children or decided very late to have one, two max. And she asks question to a men economist/ politician ?! just ask yourself and will get a more accurate picture of this reality

[@chrishiggens9225]

I think you have stated the truth of the problem. Most of the men in Italty cling to old notions of what a women should be, whereas most young Italian women choose not to be like their mums or grandmas .A similiar situation exists in Japan and South Korea, the young women are on a birth strike, and a lot of the young men have no interest in a relationship or being a parent.

[@muhammadibrahimalvi7619]

And why should men have any interest? We weren't the ones that pushed women off into the workforce. Women decoded to do so themselves.

[@marclast9564]

​@@muhammadibrahimalvi7619I mean it's women they never take accountability for their actions, they ruin their lives themselves then they blame it in someone else🙂

[@muhammadibrahimalvi7619]

@@marclast9564 Uh. I am not sure what you are talking about.

[@baha3alshamari152]

There are other reasons too Especially the pension system which favors people with no children over parents

[@liopleurodon155]

0:54 Germany and Sweden are also far below replacement level of 2.1 children per woman.... This is an issue of values, not economics.

[@Tephrinos]

Basically: Use the same old strategies that have been proved to not work.

[@johnbattle7518]

Bring in women from other countries like Persia, Armenia Romania Albania. Young men well have kids with these more traditional women, and you won't even know they're only half italian

[@baha3alshamari152]

The problem is the Italian culture If you took a clean woman to a corrupt society then she will too become corrupt Fix the root of the problem first

[@ZakariaBelhaj-bl9fb]

So you want to reduce women's role in society to a position of servitude?

[@lapun47]

Don't worry. NGO boats will fill Italy with well qualified 'migrants' to stop Italy's population decline. That's surely the EU's plan.

[@mrwideputin2038]

You think you are smart with your sarcastic comment. But that's the only solution if Italians don't give birth.

[@denisecaparn9068]

Yeah true

[@jo9932]

@@mrwideputin2038 immigrating to China doesn't mean there's more Chinese people. It just means there's more non Chinese people in China. Same vice versa with Italy

[@ZakariaBelhaj-bl9fb]

Assuming you even have a choice with the immigration crisis

[@daneurope9167]

even immigrants italians are leaving italy..low income pay,no housing ,no pensions in the futures..working without permit,no pension contribution..high debt..italy is collapsed in 10 years..so better leave now until you are young..

[@transforgoku]

The rent prices are insanely high specially in big cities that even students can't afford them and protest sleeping in tents inside their universities, also house prices have increased astronomically, it's very hard to get a loan and pay for it for 20+ years when the salaries haven't increased and inflation eats all your purchasing power away, it's a very grim situation right now in the land of pasta, pizza and mafia...

[@tabithan2978]

I feel sorry for Italy. It has fallen so far since the height of its empire. Almost totally irrelevant soon. It has become like Disney World, a tourist mecca. One huge Pompei, people come to see the bygone days, the past.

[@joaov.m.oliveira9903]

Desde que sou um menino de 5 anos ouço falar que na Itália a população envelhece demasiado, e que não há crianças para repor. E isso já se vai vinte e poucos anos. A Itália já acabou?

[@FufucaCacildis]

Caramba, que raciocínio curto. Essa sua manifestação é um exemplo claro de que o Brasil precisa investir muito nas aulas de matemática. Não saber calcular é um prejuízo na vida.

[@FirstNation1492]

This is the curse of the inquisition.

[@raubunuluratul]

I hope they won't apply any Gilead laws 🤔

[@zebrafinch12]

No that's america

[@crusaders571]

the church should sapport big familys

[@RomanAugustus]

& Action!! Start walking & talking....

[@toyotaprius79]

That's the result of the wealth inequality between north and south

[@jeffsilverberg5848]

My wife and myself do not have children but work hard enough to realize children are very time consuming.

[@baha3alshamari152]

Fortunately there's no need for you to have children thanks to immigration

[@amarhadjimurad2363]

Accept more Ukraine citizens or refugees in the work force

[@gaiag8417]

We have enough Ukranians in Italy we don't need anymore trust me.

[@amarhadjimurad2363]

@@gaiag8417 their white people Italy need them

[@gaiag8417]

@@amarhadjimurad2363 Umm no we don't. And wtf do you have to mention someone's skin color? It has nothing to do with it.

[@denisecaparn9068]

@@gaiag8417 true

[@lilestojkovicii6618]

​@@gaiag8417 he is more rational then you tho Each kind to their own

[@EnriqueHernandez-wv7sb]

Bad for economics, good for environment. A shame because Italians are so good looking, but what can we do 😕

[@MrHemi4spd]

Even more now

[@taingindia234]

I have been waitng since 10 years to see japan ceased to exist. They said 20 years ago that japan population is shrinking, and it will disappear completely. Still tokyo is the most populated city of the world. Stop this nonsense news

[@kizili510]

Once such an influential place, fashion movies music football technology cuisine language.. getting over

[@dolydoly5679]

My paternal and maternal great-grandparents were Italian and Portuguese who came to Brazil, I'm white, but neither Italy nor Portugal want me in their country. It's no use, they see us as animals because we were born on another continent, no matter their appearance or cultural similarity... They prefer immigrants from Africa and the Middle East... That's the truth! make it difficult for us to get a visa and make it easier for others. The process to obtain citizenship is expensive and time-consuming. If Italy gave me back the nationality of my great-grandparents I would learn Italian with pleasure, I would live there and have 10 Catholic children, but they prefer to give nationality to people from the Middle East and Africa...

[@amarhadjimurad2363]

Job security and high paying salary many young people in Europe don't get merried for that reason specially women

[@baha3alshamari152]

The biggest reasons people don't marry or have children are not economic but cultural European cultures don't encourage marriage even if you are rich

[@marcusk2]

yah well good luck selling those expensive houses, good luck exploiting those low wages workers and good luck with those few working hours like 8h/day 6-7 days a week… you get what you wish for in the end 😂

[@researcher--]

Yesterday you did a report on having too many people on this planet, today too few people in Italy. Can you pick one version of reality? If you believe there is too many people in the world, isn't it better that the number of people decreases? Why can't you keep one consistent narrative?

[@splintmeow4723]

Overpopulation is the largest issue the world faces. This is a good thing for Italy.

[@hendrx]

@@splintmeow4723 Overpopulation is not real, the whole world population would fit in Australia

[@DionisoBaco.]

@@hendrx The question is if there is possibility to provide good opportunities for everybody….I don’t think so

[@antinatalistwitch111]

​@hendrx true but will their be enough resources for all?

[@stevetorres76]

People just don’t have as many children as they used to. That’s just the way it goes. Since the advent of industrial farm technology it hasn’t been necessary to have a bus load of children.

[@ShoppingwithRina]

Ohh

[@ItsmeA717]

It’s really simple. Pay us more and we’ll make kids. Why should I work 35+ hours a week and get paid less than €1000 per month. Non fatemi arrabbiare per favore.

[@baha3alshamari152]

There is no need for you to have children Hundreds of young people arrive at Italy coasts every week The Italian government and parents didn't spend years and money raising them so they are free cheap labor better than raising kids for years and a lot of money

[@splintmeow4723]

Italy is doing the right thing. The world is overpopulated. It is healthy for the land that there is less strain on it ❤

[@hendrx]

They aren't trying to do anything, also overpopulation is a myth

[@gralfwiggum3818]

Elon musk says that the world population. Does not have that negative impact on the climate even if we had a population twice the size

[@lg206]

It swings the pendulum in the wrong direction. You can’t have middle class people continuing to have no babies while poor people have 3-7

[@hendrx]

@@lg206 Idiocracy intro kicks in

[@scottsheffield6474]

Compared to the decay of the nonhuman environment and the human soul, the economy means less than nothing

[@liquidswordfish]

Dont worry italy..african are coming in tons 😂😂😂 through sea

[@ozymandias6954]

Even they turn back in Africa when they see now this place has become 🤣

[@baha3alshamari152]

​@@ozymandias6954 Nah , They just continue their journey to France and Germany

[@Michele-tp7mx]

It's because of unemployment. If we Italians can find work in Italy we would love to stay in Italy!!!!!! We are forced to immigrate to better countries. And this is RACIST towards Italian people!!! We are here we just want to work!!!! 2:22

[@KellyWinter-qt5rz]

Bring in refugees!

[@AlbertoZge]

If it is true that the masses, the populations react as an entity to environmental and social conditions, it seems that advanced Western societies have intimately understood that all this manpower will not be needed in the near future. And by the law of preservation it unconsciously adapts to the changed economic and social conditions.

[@debonairebrotha]

llooool adapting to extinction of own race heheh

[@AlbertoZge]

Not extinction, the decrease in populations that adapt to new problems, to different economic and production conditions. The earth cannot support us, there are too many of us, it is a shame that the underdeveloped, Islamic fanatics multiply senselessly.

[@toomyconne768]

Italy will be Africa in 15 years

[@gralfwiggum3818]

We need more kids in the whole developed world people are way to selfish these days and decide not to have kids I think starting a family gives your life much more meaning and you get much happier I want like 7 kids and think everyone who gets kids should get like 3 or more

[@eleftheriaithanatos1162]

"and think everyone who gets kids should get like 3 or more" That's fantastic. I assume you'll be paying all their expenses, right?

[@sushilsharma4202]

Average Conservative Propaganda. No propaganda is gonna solve the problem of birth rate crisis.

[@jo9932]

A lot of people do want to have children. The cost is extremely high tho

[@antinatalistwitch111]

The childfree selfishness affects who exactly? The nonexistent child? 😂😂😂

[@miriamwells35]

Existential angst.. look back to WW2 for the reasons

[@TheWojakDoomer]

they are no longer independent italians they are know rare people inhabited there own country and there will be a chance of there own extinction and that land will grab and colonize freely from other west european countries or middle europeans

[@IRAN_forever9]

South Italy will be sold one day mark my words.

[@alexgatti3451]

Yeah yeah yeah immigrants immigrants ...Same in other eu nation , but we are in big troble with bad immigration and nobody talk..

[@baha3alshamari152]

It's either immigrants or an aging population

[@karim.mmmmmmm]

Take more immigrants … you have no choice

[@PistonHonda87]

And it will no longer be Italy. Multi culturalism is a failed experiment.

[@karim.mmmmmmm]

@@PistonHonda87 Ok ? So what choices do you have ?

[@gaiag8417]

NOPE

[@lilestojkovicii6618]

​@@karim.mmmmmmm start making kids Our generations have better conditions for childbearing than any others before us But no let's just waste your life in endless consooming

[@archsword2446]

kudos! to italian men running away from italian woke women and finding their catholic wives in the philippines and become a husband and dads of at least 5 kids. Those fil- italian kids will be back one day.

[@james9836]

I don't know have you guys tried going to church 🧐

[@Vista-fg4ij]

Who wants to go back to the dark ages and be a woman with babies? If you're modern,trying to get ahead, or just survive, I see those with kids have it significantly harder than the rest.

[@Personaje123]

Imagine thinking people having babies is something bad lol

[@gamingcreatesworlddd2425]

​@@Personaje123if that's the case what about the one commenting parents if they would have thought that she would not be born😂

[@lilestojkovicii6618]

​@S Vijaya or the soldiers of the Revolution you make them what they are But liberalism poisoned you Oh and I like how on every video that regards population collapse there is always that one CIA payed bot that comments everywhere he (they) deem necessary just to make counterargument in favour of further depopulation

[@man08839]

Sure, here is the information about the Italian invasion of Libya in short: * Italy invaded Libya in 1911 for economic and strategic reasons. * The war lasted for two years and resulted in the deaths of about 80,000 to 100,000 Libyans and 5,000 Italians. * The Italians used brutal methods to suppress the Libyan resistance, including aerial bombardment, concentration camps, and public executions. * The war left a legacy of bitterness and resentment that continues to this day. Here are some key points: * The Italian invasion of Libya was a major turning point in Italian history. * The war marked the beginning of Italy's colonial rule in Libya, which lasted until 1943. * The war also left a legacy of bitterness and resentment that continues to this day. We will take revenge from you Italy one day. Keep It in mind. You treated very dirt way immigrants and some weeks ago more than 700 people were killed in a way of Italy. Your country don't help them

[@MaleAdaptor]

It called karma. Italy used its power and wealth to oppress the weaker nations now reaps the fruits. This is the case for the rest of Europe and the US.

[@sonyasever7625]

🤦‍♀🤦‍♀🤦‍♀🤦‍♀🤦‍♀🤦‍♀🤦‍♀🤦‍♀🤦‍♀🤦‍♀🤦‍♀🤦‍♀🤦‍♀🤦‍♀🤦‍♀🤦‍♀🤦‍♀🤦‍♀🤦‍♀🤦‍♀

[@dolphmilitia]

It's called Marx1st brainwashing. Congrats NPC

[@mermaidaughter7]

I'm up for these let the collapse of the European nations follow

[@hendrx]

They stole the wealth and closed the door behind them

[@lilestojkovicii6618]

​@@dolphmilitia no It's called liberal brainwashing True marxist countries had high birthrates

[@dhickey5919]

I'm sorry, didn't Italy just turn away a boat filled with several hundred people on it? Aside from a mad scientist's cloning experiment the solution was and is on your doorstep.

[@hendrx]

They don't want brown immigrants, theyd probably gladly take Ukrainians and Russians though.

[@ptrckkear1]

More jobs for women please.

[@Email-mu1mv]

European govts should warn it's citizens that if they don't have more children then the countries may have to let in emigrsnts. That fear of foreigners could make Europeans have more children. 😂😅

[@MrHemi4spd]

Even more now