Our Early Dragon Age: The Veilguard Review! - Dropped Frames Episode 409

[@tremo2731]

The biggest take away I got from this episode is that JP is a weeb.

[@Leo-ds6lz]

Slander!

[@LaymensLament]

weird to hear from my favorite political streamer

[@Guitarman5705]

If i'm being honest, if you guys move to youtube ill probably shut down my twitch account. The only reason i even boot up twitch these days is to watch you guys. KZbin's quality for streams, outside of chat is so superior to twitch it actually is insane.

[@FirionDude]

Twitch chat culture is why I prefer twitch to KZbin. Both the emote variety and how synchronized the chat feels in twitch it feels like a entity in itself. Now on KZbin, it just feels too random.

[@Guitarman5705]

@FirionDude yeah twitch chat is usually better because of the options there but I prefer to just watch rather than interact with anyone save the streamer so KZbin is still superior for my situation

[@FirionDude]

@@Guitarman5705 I usually don't interact too, but watching the chat reaction to some stuff is fun.

[@TheDjentleman1349]

​​@@FirionDudeI was like that too when I first use twitch, always wanting to use emote and such, after 12 years of using twitch, I just type normally and rarely interact with chat unless it's funny stuff Chat has been meh after awhile

[@rise4097]

I only watch on KZbin anyways. Having the option to skip sections I’m not interested in is great!

[@LinkinParkConnoisseur]

The weeb intervention moment had me crying 😂

[@BruceWillias-]

Fucking Hilarious

[@pleasantdemoss3548]

Being a Warhammer 40K fan is the middle aged angry man’s equivalent of being a weeb

[@AvengingN00b]

Skillup never said it got hard, he said they got too spongy, there's a difference

[@UnusualEcho]

Yep, something he could incredibly easily have remedied in 2 seconds in the custom difficulty setting

[@Ulfhrafninn]

@@UnusualEcho which he did, or at least, he lowered the difficulty near the end to get through it.

[@shinnyshin7792]

@@UnusualEcho Yeah, but sponginess is usually considered the laziest approach to difficulty for a reason. When you have to lower the difficulty to not make enemies a chore to whittle down...

[@UnusualEcho]

@@shinnyshin7792 right my point is that in the custom difficulty setting you can raise everything like enemy aggression, damage, attack speed etc while keeping Hp normal so that they’re not spongey Would’ve solved most of his issues with the combat

[@UnusualEcho]

@@Ulfhrafninn yes but just putting the difficulty to “easy” also lowers everything else like enemy damage, attack speed and aggression which affects their AI and move sets So I have a feeling his complaints about enemy moves feeling really slow boring and samey probably stem from playing on the easiest difficulty where everything is slowed and toned down

[@mastercats]

Skill up didn't say the ending got really hard. He said the combat was repetative and boring, and fighting them on hard wasn't worth the time, and that putting it on normal made it more fun because the combat could be ignored.

[@Knucklebreaking]

Easy mode not normal. That's probably another problem with the game. A lot of people seem to only like the combat on nightmare difficulty or not at all.

[@NinesIng]

Yea after playing about 8 hours of this, I can confirm that he combat will get super repetitive. There is almost no depth to it. Loot seems to be quite boring too and there are not many slots you can change. What boggles my minds as well is the fact that they are saying that you can't play as party members because it would make the game too complicated for the players. Game is already too simple, this was a straight up lie and I think they just decided that it would be to complicated to for THEM to add that feature in. Its a 6/10 game with unnecessary gender politics shoehorned in and a lot of filler/McDonalds tier dialogue.

[@legate-lanius]

@@NinesIngi agree 100% percent after playing it myself

[@mastercats]

@@NinesIng the gender politics are not a problem to me in general, but the way the game handles it is so beat you over the head. I'm black so race politics in games have always been interesting to me. Look at metaphor re fantasio. In that game the other races are being kill and are shown to be starving in the streets. They are seen as almost nothing but tools. So it seems like a fight worth having. You feel bad for and learn about the issues they are having. You want to feel for and help them because the circumstances are layed out If they did gender politics in dragon age the same way, as to make it interesting and show the real issue that would be cool. It would probably do a lot to show anti gender politics folks that thier is something forth fighting for. Instead in dragon age you have no voice in this issue and the issue is shown in a completely one sided way, where only gender affirms are allowed to speak.

[@lancema4634]

@@mastercats because they no longer allow authorship in modern video game writing, is all comb over by focus group and marketing team, so like all popular pop songs the lyrics don't make any damn sense since there is no personal stakes involve from the artist, so it becomes hollow and doesn't feel authentic because it got crush by metrics on what you need to put in and not put in.

[@Nnovuh]

When DAV reviews started getting posted the big rift I saw was the difference in opinion of Mortis' review and Skill-up's. My problem with the discourse is Mortisal is viewed as a CRPG guy BUT he values systems more than dialogue; saw DAV as a more actiony game and reviewed as such even proposed GOTY in the review. Skill-up was more of a Origins enjoyer lens when it came to the dialogue valued it heavy, found combat repetitive and claimed do not recommend. Two reviewers with very different lenses gave different opinions in DETAIL and the community proliferated the click baity-ness of it instead of comprehending what was said.

[@Knucklebreaking]

Skill Up also tends to keep what the series or genre is "supposed to be" in mind. For him, this is like FF16 with bad dialogue.

[@gamingeagle19]

It's weird that he did that though. Dragon Age has never had the kind of dialogue as it did in the original game. All their games since then in both DA and ME have had dialogue similar to this. From what I've played so far I'm not seeing anything radically different or worse dialogue wise than Inquisition.

[@MuuMiFin]

@@gamingeagle19 Exactly. Its crazy to me that people are criticising the dialogue, when its pretty much the same it was in Inquisition. Did people not play that game? I'm 20 hours deep in to the game and for me the dialogue has been fine, nothing remarkable but definitely would not call it bad.

[@tutes0133]

​@@MuuMiFinThat's the optimal way to frame it. It's nothing special but it hasn't been for a long while. Bioware is a different company nowadays. That's just fact. But nothing remarkable doesn't necessarily mean bad. And viewing everything through the Origins lens is in my opinion not too bright of a move considering we're closing in on 20 years since it released. It's a different world out there. Besides, every single DA game has been wildly different.

[@nicolasferreiro4492]

​@@tutes0133And people still go to Origins as model. That says a lot of what followed. Accept less and you'll be given less. And when It finally crosses your red lines, you'll be confused wondering WTF happened... (just look at people wondering about Bethesda).

[@losvikings2584]

I wouldn't mind watching DF on youtube live because I use the ad free. I don't use twitch much

[@crazydude9991]

Talking about YA writing in Dragon Age, I think what matters more is expectation and whether that type of writing fits the world or characters. I like JRPGs and they have tons of writing at that level but I don't find it as egregious because often in JRPGs the characters are younger and it's more consistent to the setting. In Veilguard the characters are supposed to be proper adults who kill and deal with dark stuff, and then half the dialogue is them talking like teenagers in school.

[@bluemoon1716]

Veilguard is a 6 out of 10. It's not horrible but it's not great either. Slightly above average

[@veldinsparx]

As many problems as Skill Up had with this game he did say the ending is one of the best Bioware's ever done and he just wished the rest of the game had been like that.

[@luccan]

best part of the weeb discussion is Cohh thinking Warhammer 40k isn't weeb shit. It's the same picture, Cohh.

[@shinnyshin7792]

Huh, had a totally different reaction to Exodus. Saw it and instantly loved it. It felt like the sort of rich, creative sci-fi game we've been asking for since the 2000s--the one many of us thought Mass Effect would turn into. My whole friend group is now incredibly excited because it feels like there's been a decades-long hole in engaging sci-fi gaming stories.

[@synthiandrakon]

Metaphor had like a crazy high amount of people actually playing through the game. I remember being like 2 days in doing almost nothing but playing metaphor and i was getting achievements telling me "50% of players also got this"

[@James-u1y]

Yeah it was surprising, I can't wait for the next Metaphor game.

[@VladTheRad]

When they were doing the "three thumbs up" thing I had to pause and go rewatch Zeke's antics from that episode with Rami and Jesse (389)

[@k3d981]

Just for saying.. Dragon Age Veilguard is the best sellers on steam because it is literally the only one who has been launched on steam.. The others have been launched on origin (EA launcher) and after a few years have been added on steam.

[@Kizok5150]

What I thought too lmao

[@UniBlue1000]

Yeah it's crazy to me how very little due diligence these guys did just to parrot that intellectually dishonest article. I guess they were just looking for something to validate their feelings that the game wasnt terrible.

[@Sanguiniusnz]

Heh one of their best selling games on steam... that would be because it is the ONLY bioware game that has LAUNCHED on steam, none of the other bioware games came to steam until years after their release.

[@scfm1684]

This is only really true for post 2011 Bioware games. ME1, ME2, DA:O, and DA2 were all available via Steam on day 1 of their PC release. However back then they also still did big physical releases, and Steam wasn't quite the market dominator it would become in 2007/8.

[@Sanguiniusnz]

@@scfm1684 Fair call. I do after all still have my physical cds for DAO and DA2/

[@danschmehl7824]

It's like Bioware had something to prove with the hair after DAI lol

[@Cynicz13]

While Cohh did get the episode wrong he is not incorrect once you get to a specific episode of One Piece then you have become a weeb. Cohh also might be a weeb since he was 3 episodes off.

[@veldinsparx]

Idk I think 312 is correct. The funeral for the Going Merry got me when I watched it

[@mertzero99]

Can you please give me a timestamp where they talk about one piece

[@veldinsparx]

@@mertzero99 Around 1:26:30 it's just a small joke in their bigger weeb bit

[@keithshaughnessy1730]

Devils Advocate here: The "I'm a mage" line I don't think was as bad as they claim it is, because her line right before that was "The raw magic in that area will tear you apart." Her saying "I'm a mage, I'll go" I saw as her saying that she can handle that raw magic better than Harding. There wasn't much time for her to give a succinct reason for why to pick her over Harding, so the best line to say quickly to get the point across was just "I'm a mage." There are writing issues in the game for sure, I just think that there are better examples.

[@MineBorder10444]

The characters in the Dragon Age also look weird because their heads are too big. In art design, you usually design a character with 8-9 heads for height. Most characters in this game are designed to be 5-6 headcounts. You do this because that is roughly the amount a regular human is measured and also it just looks better in my opinion.

[@Techstriker1]

I do call BS on the "Bioware's best release on steam", because its I think its ONLY new release on steam? I know ME3/DA:I era was all Origin exclusives for example.

[@CC-of5xl]

EA's best still includes giant Star Wars games though. High sales doesn't equal great game though for example Inquisition is the worst in the series but sold the best. But there's no point in all the lying that's going on saying the game isn't selling well when it is.

[@RPGManoWar]

But the older Mass Effects, DAO, DA2 I believe came out on Steam And then Anthem launched on Steam

[@Techstriker1]

@@RPGManoWar Mass Effect 1 and DA:Origins was pre-steam iirc. I remember having to do disk load and old school manual patching for those. DA2 I don't have on steam so it was either disk based or Origin, because not a chance in hell I'd have it anywhere else but steam if I had the choice. That's part of how I know they did not release on steam originally, because I'd have them on steam if they had.

[@RPGManoWar]

@@Techstriker1 I know those games eventually made it to Steam a while ago cause I was playing it through Steam in 2013 but I'm not sure, you are right. But the Mass Effect Legendary Collection launched on Steam for sure and it did outsell that

[@suddenimpulse030]

Fair enough, but it still seems to be selling well all the same. Its #2 in the best selling list on steam, just behind Black Ops, it was #1 on preorders for a good while. if you filter the Playstation store by Best Selling, its #4, CoD: Black Ops 6 in #1, Fortnite (free game) in #2, NBA 2025 in #3. On steam, where verified purchase is required, it currently has 10,800 reviews with 83% "mostly positive. If you filter the playtime to 10 hours minimum gametime its 2,750 reviews averaging "very positive, if you filter to 25 hours minimum gametime its "very positive" at 86% positive. The average score of critic reviews on opencritic was fine. So I think the game will do just fine business wise, despite the controversies.

[@godloared]

1:26:35 One piece episode 312 Will make you cry. So Cohh is not wrong

[@rise4097]

I've been watching the KZbin upload of Dropped Frames for over 10 years now. Maybe a handful on Twitch. I prefer the option to pause or skip sections, I rarely conversate. Just wanting to thank JP for the upload!

[@kingsgrave_]

in regards to JP's comments on Metaphor being very preachy and not even remotely subtle about the themes, it definitely reminded me of the more Shin Megami Tensei style. where the game is about a specific conflict of Law and Chaos and every fucking character talks about it and looks directly into the camera to remind you what the game is about. I enjoyed it because I've always been a bigger fan of SMT than Persona (don't like the high school aspect or the romance stuff at all)

[@ocklyrajab7177]

Agree, this game is scream SMT vibe than Persona

[@pilaf43]

I wouldn't call veilguard a "return to form" unless they meant a return to form from DA: inquisition

[@chilliheadgaming5964]

Inquisition came to Steam in 2020, 6 years after release. Not that hard to have best selling on Steam after that.

[@HSExsiccator]

In regards to Cohh's criticisms of Veilguard's companion writing in missions, I think this is heavily influenced by playstyle. As someone that explores the world very slowly and is a completionist, I spend a lot of time in the world with companions giving them large amounts of time to do banter. This really shifts the balance between the kinds of writing (pointing out things in the environment vs the rest of the game). If you are pushing the main story, I suspect you get less banter (in percent of other dialogue) so that would feel completely different.

[@Vojtechsroub]

Exactly, playing RPG and rushing main line...wtf

[@stefanjrgensen6842]

afaik the most selling Bioware game on steam was dragon age inquisition which was released on steam like 5 years after its original release date, so it isnt going to be a difficult record to break when the game is released on day one on steam, so dragon age veilguard being the best selling game on Steam isnt a big accomplishment when the game peaked at 88k concurrent players compared to baldurs gate 3 having 800k

[@thatonedude243]

The previous best-selling single player EA game was Jedi Survivor. Mass Effect Legenday Edition comes in 20,000 below Veilguard for concurrent players (which is the record that was being broken, not so much sales).

[@12tman12]

About Indiana Jones and the PG-13 rating. PG-13 didn't even exist then (1981), it actually came in after IJ: Temple of Doom (1984) with so many parents complaining and Spielberg himself recommending a new PG-13 rating. It's one of the reasons why those great more scary movies we saw as kids back in the day, stopped getting made as they had to hit that new PG-13 rating which is more restrictive than R obviously.

[@Dracobyte]

Thanks for the review podcast!

[@emzdanowicz2775]

1:15:45 Yooo guys, if you haven't dive into Exodus... It's a AAA sci-fi RPG in the style of Mass Effect. Drew Karpyshyn is leading the story. And they have huge Wizards of the Coast budget. This could really be something great. But they are not hyping it up yet, cause the release is prolly like 3-4 years away.

[@ArmouredBlood]

Cohh really needs to look into Overlord or Youjou Senki: Saga of Tanya the Evil and reassess what he thinks Isekai means lol. Not everyone transported to another world is a hero.

[@Downloader3008]

man those first 4minutes go hard. one of the best openings to any episode lol

[@Horazio1987]

My 10 Hour Nightshift just got way Better!

[@kaladinstormblessed9626]

44:09 JP ur so based for this monster hunter wilds take, i completely agree, it is def my game of the year next year.

[@ronuss]

It's crazy to me how little people seem to know about Exodus. its the core original ME team. There has been loads of info, even gameplay on it, and yet no one seems to know what it is lol

[@benjaminmatheny6683]

A big thing they missed talking about Dragon Age was that Skill-Up's negative review had a big focus on a mid game slump. Much of his complaints, particularly related to combat, was damage sponge enemies and nothing to mix up the combat gameplay through the mid game. say levels 25-45. Cohh and JP haven't hit level 20. will be interesting to see if their take changes when they hit that slog.

[@nine9_abyss]

Skillup hated every second of it lol. Had nothing to do with mid-game. He has this version of DA4 in his mind that's totally different from the one we got. That's basically what happened with him.

[@olsongc8422]

JP and Cohh got confused on what companion they were talking about lol. Ahh, I love it here :)

[@griffin1182]

Dont think anyone was arguing in favor of death threats, simply that sometimes, as a game reviewer, you have to play games you dont enjoy.

[@Leo-ds6lz]

The wilds demo had me install a MH game for the first time to try it out and probably convinced me to want to play it when it comes out, happy to see big studios do more free betas/demos like this.

[@Mauditduparadis]

2:19:54 There is recipe that let you oneshot everything for 30sec regardless of level

[@gzzuss]

I think the vod would stay on the live section, with the chat.

[@KruxSmash]

"It would be weird if Bioware shut down after one of their best selling single player games" Do we need to remind ourselves of Hi-Fi Rush? "Best selling" =/= profitable. You can't ignore the elephant in the room forever, even if you wish to remain neutral and ignore it. Edit: Cohh basically nailed it. The dialogue is not good, it feels like you're being talked down to the entire time, it's NOT good dialogue. And from a company like BIOWARE, this is THE MOST IMPORTANT PART for their games imo.

[@suddenimpulse030]

Hi-Fi Rush was by a niche studio making a niche style game even though it sold well. EA doesn't really have an RPG studio and its a larger studio. While I generally don't disagree with your premise, I think this stuff is complex and theres a lot of factors at play in determining how executives and investors make these decisions about operating, continuing and shutting down studios within a large gaming company, and Mass Effect has always been a more popular series and always seemed to get more focus and attention from EA according to multiple bioware devs in the past and just from outside looking in. I think they are going to bank a lot on Mass Effect, and if that one doesn't do well THEN I think Bioware will be in a pretty precarious situation.

[@Sevaria]

Best selling? Are we still talking about the "Highest Selling EA Steam release" meme? Because this is the First BioWare Game to Release day one on Steam in at least a decade maybe ever (ME collection is a re-release of an older product, with drastically reduced overhead, not a new game and should in no way be used as a yard stick). I doubt the game has sold even a million Copies yet, otherwise we would see news Articles shilling that talking point. THe Game is a Flop, is it Concord levels? No. But given it was in developement for 10 years and was rebooted at least twice, when the dust settles it might be close to Concord.

[@Sevaria]

@@suddenimpulse030 EA wanted to kill BioWare after Anthem; they didn't because BioWare sold them that Then Dreadwolf was deep in production and that it would be a game changer. I don't think you will see ME5, and I would not be surprised for Bioware to be closed over christmas; and I won't shed a tear for them after this trash.

[@KruxSmash]

@@suddenimpulse030 What is the last successful Bioware game, that wasn't a remake/remaster?

[@Drain668]

i love jp just hitting random buttons when he tries to switch screens, makes me chuckle

[@Talcor]

They ancient alien'd the elves and i won't forgive them

[@wolvie90]

As someone who can't afford to upgrade my potato PC right now, I look forward to getting MH Wilds with all DLCs for cheap in a few years...

[@Slomoshun4u]

Exodus looks amazing. As a gaming channel you should probably brush up your knowledge about it before the next time you talk about it. Archetype Entertainment(developer) was started by OG Bioware Senior creative director James Ohlen with other staff from old Bioware. The game is based off the universe from on a book "Exodus: The Archimedes Engine". As long as they let the game cook it should be the next Mass Effect.

[@James-u1y]

So the director said the tone for ME will be mature like it always has been, but Dragon Age was the exact same? I have no reason to believe he acknowledged what were concerned about.

[@LaymensLament]

i always thought cohhs criticism of "a lot of the dialogue feels disconnected from the world" also was true in bg3. bg3 felt to me like shephearding a buch of 20 yr olds who keep forgetting the world is about to end. the overall quality is just better and also, i think the main redeeming quality for bg3 is that it has insane amounts of player agency. but while the quality of bg3s writing is solid its thematically very eclectic. i dont think it holds a candle to disco elysium, which is, imho, really the only game worth reading.

[@iitzDoom]

Between the combat being extremely basic and the writing being genuinely awful, I will never recommend anyone buy veilguard personally. I will recommend the other 3 in the series but never this one. The writing isn't even just young adult, it's modern young adult, and it simply does not fit the world and is an instant immersion break and if you're someone who already isn't a fan of modern slang and how young adults are speaking it will grate on you, and quickly. It has potential but combat is too shallow and it can't ride on the story alone with the writing being as bad as it is.

[@swani56]

Honestly the only thing about the bigger KZbinrs and saying “it’s fine” is yes you are correct it’s fine… but in the same breath they also seem to semi insult the players at large in saying they are too harsh- which yeah 1s, 2s and 3s are certainly way too low the game plays well enough and has some substance. BUT not enough is being said about the 10/10 GOTY outlets. There is absolutely extremes on both sides and honestly in this case the 10/10s really kind of set this game up to be a community war. Everyone’s entitled to an opinion but objectively… this game is not a 10/10 and it’s not a 1.

[@VoxAcies]

I think the reason the discourse around Veilguard is so toxic is general public felt like it was being gaslit by the journos, claiming it's of one the best Bioware games. Which is absolutely and obviously idiotic thing to say. So the common sense battles the twitter discourse and in the process a bunch of other shit got mixed in.

[@RPGManoWar]

OR... big shock... A lot of them liked it, and so do the thousands of people giving positive reviews on Steam/PlayStation/Xbox! Just maybe a consideration

[@defiante1]

@@RPGManoWar Liked it sure? Best Bioware game? 100/100? Just no. It's not, in fact not even getting into the woke stuff, its RP and story ability is low. Its adherence to the cannon of previous games is low. People wanted it to be 100/100 and it just... wasn't.

[@pleasantdemoss3548]

@@defiante1local man discovers subjectivity

[@aveshlutchman8573]

It's crazy how this game can get critiqued for having bad narratives and the like, but then get 9-10s from the very same reviewer. It's crazy. We all know if this was a game coming out from a no-name studio without the DA IP, it would get absolutely destroyed.

[@NeoBluereaper]

It's a return to form.

[@veldinsparx]

The loot system is also the exact same as Remnant 2

[@Razzying]

Having you guys stream on youtube with be good for me since for some reason I keep buffering when watching at 1080 and I just watched cohh yesterday in 1440 no buffering and issues with such crisp details.

[@aaronz1023]

I haven't actually watched the episode yet as I work on Sunday's & Twitch has no option to shut off my phone's screen & listen. But from the comments I see it sounds like I may be able to listen on youtube while I work which would be amazing. Hope it happens.

[@ammo7]

The twitch app has an option to play audio in the background (on android anyway).

[@LaymensLament]

there was no podcast last sunday either i suppose? :> i depend on my podcasts to do my housework LOL

[@Huzsar]

I hope you start steaming DF on KZbin. It's just so much easier to start watching a steam from the start if you are let say 5 minutes late then catch up to Live point in the broad cast.

[@watarboo]

I have youtube premium so come on over! Lol

[@kephalai]

tbh the main news for this week is how awesome the monster hunter beta was :D

[@Theraton1]

seeing other reviews to veilguard and reading about this mess i am ready to start playing dragon age origins again - the one and only.

[@Ayay01]

Veilguard looks like any middle of the road Ubisoft or EA game ever , Might be fun but for me it is not Dragon age and that is a game i want . Happy people have fun with this game , i wish they just used another name , Fantasy shadow guards maybe :)

[@LinkinParkConnoisseur]

I fell asleep while watching this live and got woken up by zeke screaming at 2:04:26 😂

[@foreignuser_]

Damn I have never heard anyone else say that they use mouse thumb for dodge! I do the same thing as Zeke. I don't even remember when I started doing it but once I got used to it, it's incredibly freeing of my other hand.

[@iCatCloud]

Mass effect 5 just dont need to be anywhere like to Mass Effect Andromeda. Also, better have quick save again and some decent ass checkpoints.

[@seananderson4777]

I'm giving this a thumbs up for the 3 thumbs up content

[@sadisticmedic8788]

Dragon age News Asmongold got banned on their reddit and I want a Nami Body Pillow. Just saying

[@devinsapp3104]

Personally, I’ve really been enjoying Veilguard! Like Cohh says, make your own opinion. If you like it, awesome, if you don’t, totally fine. Both are valid 😊

[@Gerniaz]

So the dialogue isn't cringe? Wondering about buying it, and dialogue in dragon age is important to me.

[@JimmyTung-xc3tz]

@@Gerniaz Some people like Cringe. And cringe is really subjective.

[@ELVIStheDotA]

​@@Gerniaz maybe they don't find it cringe or have fun with rest of game to ignore it

[@MuuMiFin]

@@Gerniaz I'm 20 hours in and have not found the dialogue cringe at all. Its pretty much the same it was in Inquisition, nothing remarkable but definitely not bad.

[@LissXIV]

MAN DO I LOVE!!!!! Watching Cohh figure stuff out live while running his mouth

[@Awytoo]

I already stopped watching DF live long time ago. I just open youtube and watch recordings.

[@astroman129]

No bad ending huh. Should we tell him boys?

[@LinkinParkConnoisseur]

1:24:40 I was crying laughing at this

[@jobeezer]

Timestamp for intervention?

[@thedude7319]

36:15 isn't weird, standard practice of japanese development. More a collective approach and the workculture

[@chilliheadgaming5964]

The line of being weeb is having 80 pound statue XD

[@madugami2733]

😂I saw what you did at 0:35 frame

[@Canucks4us]

What are warhammer fans if not weebs of a different breed?

[@rsick266]

The reaction on Exodus is unfair. How are you going to "talk" about a game without actually doing your homework. I enjoy every little trailer they drop because is building the lore and universe, you know? Like an RPG. You breach the subject of RPGs but you sneer at lore videos? How does that have any logic? Anyone who enjoyed the ME series should keep Exodus on their radar (more than the next ME game, which is *painful* for me to admit since it's will remain forever my favorite). I'm not blindly hyped or anything (i never do with any game), but so far based on trailers and following Q&As and updates, it showed is worth following and be hopeful.

[@PokiDraco]

Was gonna play mage in dragon age but that rouge looks epic.

[@thoralexandermichelsen6592]

Best selling game of steam. They havent sold games on steam at launch before this one..... They are sooo trying to frame things. Its riddiculous.

[@csagdyic9918]

3:31 anyone have a link to ezek trying to explain woke to his mom ?

[@Kinslayu]

Persona is also preachy and is paced worse than metaphor so I can't agree with JP here about the story. I do think the dungeons and music are better in persona tho

[@Huckleberry42]

I really notice with a lot of KZbinrs that as soon as something has a controversy. They feel the need to stay diplomatic and have the opposite opinion just so they don't share the same opinion with the "toxic" fans.

[@olsongc8422]

Funny, most KZbinrs I've seen have been fueling the toxicity.

[@suddenimpulse030]

I have noticed the opposite, personally, but there is a TON of youtubers so I think one should be careful not to generalize too much. I also have been following Cohh and ItmeJP a long time and I have not ever gotten the impression they do that, especially Cohh I feel is always very honest and balanced in his thoughts on things. I think what may actually be happening in some of these instances, is that negativity in general, be it games, movies, tv, or other things, the negative people tend to be a lot more incessant and a lot more vocal so it spreads like wildfire, so there is a tendency to want to perhaps highlight the good aspects of those subject matters a bit more, not as a way of being diplomatic, but as a way of trying to balance out the analysis and views over the subject matter and have a more reasonable, balanced approach to looking at things, which ideally would make it more objective and more representative of how people feel overall.

[@Dracobyte]

Because there is a ton of crazy people out there and they do not want their legit criticism to be associated with the opinions of nutjobs. It is pretty understandable.

[@VorpalSnak]

@@suddenimpulse030 You think Cohh didn't play Hogwarts because he didn't want to or have time to play it? Are you kidding me? Cohh runs from contraversy because he knows he'd lose a lot of his audience.

[@Dopesaur]

@@VorpalSnak Why can't both things be true at once? I'm pretty sure he was honest when he said he didn't really care for the Harry Potter universe. Adding all that drama onto the end just made the choice a no brainer. Not having time is a whatever excuse. Cohh is the one making his own schedule. I don't think he needs to lie about not wanting to play it that much. I think he said as much on this podcast when H:L was big news.

[@TheDoctor4221]

"its cheaper than a hotel" cohh...people cant afford hotel rooms LET ALONE AN RV RENTAL lol get some perspective

[@Average0Andy]

please add sections to the video

[@JohnSmith-ef2rn]

Dragon Age Veilguard is a victim of the culture wars. People feel the need to hate or love it depending on their political stance, regardless of the politics or merits (or lack thereof) of the game itself. I haven't played it, and I suspect most of those criticising or applauding it to extreme lengths online have also not played it. I have little interest in it myself. Dragon Age has not been very appealing to me since DA:O. But even if a game is not for me, that doesn't mean others cannot legitimately enjoy it. It's just not for me. From what I have seen, it appears to be a functional, reasonably put together game that has writing that is simply not for everyone. I grant that it is not for those who loved the original game, and so origin fans may betrayed. But hey, that's life.

[@RPGManoWar]

@@JohnSmith-ef2rn wow a rational opinion! I applaud you, sir

[@suddenimpulse030]

one of the most mature and sensible takes on this comment section.

[@kurooben1639]

its ok jp... im up to date on one piece lmfao

[@GRIMHOOD99]

Unpopular opinion Veilguard is the best bioware game released since ME2 and I liked inquisition a lot after they fixed technical problems on PC. Dialogue also suddenly got like 100% better after the first big choice you get after getting the warden companion which was like 12h in and since then the tutorialish dialogue is fairly rare. Game gets deserved hate for specific dialogue choices which are definitely the weakpoint of this game but I haven't seen enough praise for every other aspect of the game. It looks incredible, level design is actually quite smart and I really like that they took the dark souly aproach of unlockable permanent shortcuts, it runs so well I had one stutter and basically no glitches on medium settings on a setup that has 5 years old ryzen 5 3600 and this game is heavy on CPU by originally posted hw requirements Combat which I expected to hate from the few showcases they released I actually love because the skill tree is the best in the series and you can respec it any time for free if you wanna change things up, exploration doesn't feel like chore, most quests including side quests make actual sense and I haven't seen a single fetch quest yet, notes that are in every dragon age game feel very well written and most importantly these chads at bioware turned motion blur off by default like holy shit I have seen motion blur off by default in like 4 games in last 15 years if it was in options. Also Worlds was viewed by 6.9M people excluding china and china had another couple millions viewers for sure because BLG is a chinese team.

[@RDGridJanika]

I dont understand Cohh sometimes , he wants the devs to be better ( talking about bioware triple A company) when they put out this mediocre game after 10 years with bad writing, constant immersion breaking, not being an actual rpg , it being fully linear. Im sorry but i just can give them slack because of this and probably EA wont be too considering how money hungry EA is.

[@Charbizard1]

Everyone's got a chink in there armor. I think the games held up by it's DAO and DAI predecessors. Without those games, no one would've heard of DAVG.

[@suddenimpulse030]

Fair enough, but it still seems to be selling well all the same. Its #2 in the best selling list on steam, just behind Black Ops, it was #1 on preorders for a good while. if you filter the Playstation store by Best Selling, its #4, CoD: Black Ops 6 in #1, Fortnite (free game) in #2, NBA 2025 in #3. On steam, where verified purchase is required, it currently has 10,800 reviews with 83% "mostly positive. If you filter the playtime to 10 hours minimum gametime its 2,750 reviews averaging "very positive, if you filter to 25 hours minimum gametime its "very positive" at 86% positive. The average score of critic reviews on opencritic was fine. So I think the game will do just fine business wise, despite the controversies.

[@Wildskar]

Cohh always has milk toast opinion on problematic games

[@NebulaOak]

Cohh just isn't mind broken into believing a mediocre game is terrible. There's a wide gap between GOTY and actual bad games that are outright unplayable and there's a lot of fun to be had in that gap. Cohh is very straightforward. He plays what he wants to play and if he doesn't like something, he drops it. No one but his own enjoyments make him put hours into a game. Devs can sponsor him to try out games, but a lot of those games don't get a part XX or part XXX.

[@Wildskar]

​@@NebulaOakGlazing this game for having 89k peak players on steam and calling it success while being outperformed by indie games released years ago ( while 10+ years development ate 100mil minimum), never blaming devs its always suits fault is really naive take. You just have to read what some of those devs write on their socials. Agenda driven writers writing for modern society that doesnt exist trying to take already existing lore change it for agenda reasons or thinking they can make it better while shitting on original authors are the problems and ppl are tired of it. Why waste your money or time on mediocre agenda driven games while they are so many other amazing games. Sorry for my englando

[@Joltzz1985]

All Bioware's writing is fucking corny lol.

[@BobbyWhitby]

Do you get extra attack power for being trans in dragon age?

[@thequeenn00b]

All the KZbin commenters saying they like watching on KZbin: yeah no shit guys :p

[@JawadBhuiyan]

Zeke, you gotta ditch these weebs man. Lest you become one. There's no returning.

[@kyledemps8182]

anyone else tired of hearing metaphor discussion? shouldve just waited until you all got to the end and spent an entire episode on it....

[@mastercats]

please do youtube streams. KZbin red is by far a better deal than twitch turbo, and politically i struggle to want to even use the twitch platform it's almost become X for me in its own way.

[@zoubachan]

One of the things about Veilguard is it feels they recycled a lot of the content they had when it was supposed to have multiplayer. Like the portraits when you select a party member, the cities feeling less like cities and more like a hero shooter level... It's even more of an insult to DA fans when on top of all that the dialogue sucks, there's very little roleplay ability compared to past games, they bulldoze over established lore, no impactful choices or party member interactions, getting away from the mature art style and content... That's not even talking about the 'woke' stuff that prior DA games did just fine without breaking immersion... There's just so much that is not Dragon Age, and no amount of pretty environments (the best part of it) will save it. Is it unplayable? No. Is it as good as the 'reviews' are saying? Definitely not. If it wasn't part of the Dragon Age series, it'd just be a mid ARPG, but it had a lot to live up to and it feels like they just didn't even try to do that.

[@newbielives]

Yeah that's insulting to compare that to anime writing lol

[@None38389]

You'd say that but I guarantee you if you made Twilight into an anime and gender swap all the characters it would've been considered good writing among anime fans, and I say this as an anime fan. You know most anime have shit writing when there are a good amount of people who unironically call Chainsaw Man "peak fiction".

[@bigbadferg1649]

Cohh accidentally named one of the most emotionally loaded episodes of One Piece. I and many others cried our eyes out for this episode, and it definitely signifies a big step in the Straw Hat's journey.....perhaps cohh is also a closeted week 😅

[@weakestlink9159]

i've played origins, 2, and inquisition, and i prefer the loot/equipment system in veilguard. i'd rather this than how every other game works, which is "loot chest, take all, get encumbered, sell fifty copies of a useless weapon/armor piece, repeat"

[@sosayweall2509]

The devs coded the game not the execs cohh

[@Dracobyte]

But excecutives can say "this is the vision for the game, this is how we want to market it, do it or you are fired".

[@JakeRayTM]

Devs can't just ignore their boss's orders... That's not how the world works.

[@sosayweall2509]

@JakeRayTM no but that doesnt mean theor bosses tell them to code a game poorly.thats something they do

[@JakeRayTM]

@@sosayweall2509 good code or bad code doesnt matter if it was a poor decision to code something in the first place. That's like saying the workers on a collapsing bridge are at fault for making a shitty blueprint.

[@sosayweall2509]

@JakeRayTM if they can't read the blueprints or they don't u derstand proper construction techniques yes it could be their fault. Are you actually trying to claim the only.successful.hero shooters were the results of executive decisions lol