[ENG CC] Ultimate 1,600cc vs. raw power - Spoon EK9 + N2 AE86 vs. RX7, S14, EVO III Ebisu HV29

[@miroshi]

Hondash - the ultimate tool to monitor your Honda www.hondash.net facebook.com/hondashapp/

[@eggrollpinoy]

S14 racing

[@L00PdeL00P]

I miss 80s - 90s JDM ingenuity. Every car was so different and weird and each had their own personality traits and flaws. Such beautifully designed aesthetics too.

[@jamey90]

Agreed, the world is turning into this gray blob of the same thing lol

[@Joshua_N-A]

I miss the days when sports car were based on the production car chassis. Just like the BMW M3 and Skyline GT-R.

[@JorgeCanovas]

The more I watch these Hot Version/Best Motoring videos, the more I understand Gran Turismo. Love 90's Japanese vehicles and video games.

[@pizzasub3194]

Jorge Canovas These shows are way better than top gear

[@juandef4115]

Jorge Canovas them slow gran turismo cars in real life are fun

[@fistingendakenny8781]

play tokyo extreme racer & kaido racer... they outsold gran turismo 5 to 1... real drifto by default.

[@srennelamirez643]

@@fistingendakenny8781 nah wangan midnight game are better

[@vipbeef2174]

@@srennelamirez643 stfu kid who only knows about straight line performance

[@johnm3907]

These videos are great, a lot better than drag racing

[@robertlund5694]

Bs, Japanese drag racing is sick.

[@EdyAlbertoMSGT3]

Drag Racing sucks

[@user-fi2ow1jb8s]

straight line suck

[@EdyAlbertoMSGT3]

Dragsters are pointless. They just last 5-10 secs alive before dying.

[@hajkomartan]

@@robertlund5694 Said no one ever

[@MangoKev]

That 86 sounds so nice!

[@dadisi09]

It shuur does!

[@cvetomirkostov4647]

Yeah.. that bbbBBBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAp sound just makes me so happy... !

[@srennelamirez643]

Yeah of course it the drift kings

[@fredakml2459]

Toyota never fail to impress

[@robertlund5694]

Balls out

[@texasrepresent1229]

at the end of the day, Tsuchiya driving skills still showed very brightly. amazing

[@bdmr_isf]

The sound of that 4age is absolutely beautiful!

[@tasshuffler8905]

I feel like I'm watching initial D "The civic holds the lead during the downhill, but will it be able to hold off the Lan-Evo on the uphill!"

[@佐藤卓治]

線そ

[@佐藤卓治]

線さ

[@octalpepper]

If u wanna see real touge races look for hot versions

[@ToreDL87]

These videos and inputs from these drivers is what they used for the anime/manga after all :)

[@kapengbarako8877]

Yes, the video made realistic Initial D. The Evo is the dominating of all seconded by FC but 86's driver is a monster so that it will became the fastest of all.

[@LittleMac938]

The only time a Civic hits 12,000 rpm is when a Japanese driver downshifts...

[@robertlund5694]

And when an american drag racer mis-shifts and does a nose wheelie while destroying his entire drivetrain in 1 moment.

[@Numi_numi]

What if i just add my civic to 20,000 rpm

[@ericdrisgula3879]

Actually I saw a video yesterday out of this particular series of a spoon built 2000cc version of the jdm b18c type R motor in an ek9 type R chassis , and it was shifting at like 11300-11400 rpm's and smoked everybody else on the track despite a few cars having 100-150 hp more than it , the spoon 2000cc type r motor was making over 230hp of N/,A hp to the front wheels and actually won the race quite easily with probably at least a 3 second lap time difference between him and the 2nd place car come by the finish line , so I'm determined there was something wrong with the 1800cc type R motor in the eK9 of this race here , an 1800cc carbed ae86 shouldn't have been that much faster than it in a lap time let alone even not possibly faster at all, I'd expect a spoon built b18c in a 2100-2200 pound eK9 chassis would beat an 1800cc ae86 in any drag race something was def wrong with that civic there is no way the ek9's final lap time shoulda been that much slower than the rest of the cars as I know an 1800cc ae86 is not much faster than a spoon b18c ek9 if even any faster period they should have been neck and neck and in some parts of the track the ek9 shoulda been faster enough to hold the lead over the ae86 for the entire race , somethi g was def wrong with the motor on that ek9 he was limping it across the finish line at the end look how slow he crossed the finish line and on a down hill slope none the less where the high revvs and hp of that spoon b18c shoulda made that ek9 fly down that slope and across the finish line , not saddfully limp across it like a deer with a broken leg.

[@twincammikev]

@@ericdrisgula3879 don't be butt hurt the Toyota was faster.. LOL

[@hondasarefaster5914]

@@twincammikev Honda's shit all over toyota

[@anas.g]

it's amazing to see the number of angels they shot the race from, really makes you feel the competition

[@esdrasferreras1227]

*angles

[@CarsnStuff]

The s14 really surprised me ! gotta love the s chassis.

[@v8consumption]

The s chassis was clearly modified and more hp. They shod have tested them all stock not race prepped. Just tires and rims and then see who wins. I'd think the ae86 would win.

@Eugene Boucher stock ae86 only makes some 120 herspers stock, no way it would win with an evo or rx7

[@roknroller6052]

@taizer... Standard cars are mostly uninterested, as there a contradiction in function

[@roknroller6052]

@Review Guy... Yeah the s-chassis has great potential

[@vebzuia4336]

@@roknroller6052 that's why theirs VTEC 😂

[@filipvelkov6829]

That rip-off rocky music xD LMFAO

[@rb264ag]

the instant the horns started i wanted to laugh. Then i lost it

[@batesmotel282]

Filip Velkov ongoood xD

[@robertoarchetti353]

Wow i'm not the only one who noticed that

[@NMad-kp2bu]

😂👌 Not bad for a spin-off. Dodged the copyright violation

[@empyongle4661]

When is that

[@dominicpadre3306]

their convo after is so wholesome. always complementing each other

[@jacobhulsey7547]

That rev matching at 10:07 is incredible skill!

[@kamailo99]

this is much better than current F1 season

[@dho]

seriously great driving. much better in my eyes to have a slower but well controlled track machine than to have a high hp cars that just feeds you tickets and dirty looks after two gear pulls

[@Ferg2jz]

As a 14a owner I'm hella proud to see it win and to have pulled away from the pack by the end. I've always said they're brilliant for track not just drift but ultimately the highlight is tsuchiya in that ae86... Pushing an already super competent car in the corners ( the rx7) and with a 2-3x horsepower disadvantage, is incredibly impressive.

[@biomate6746]

AE86 Vs FD and Lan Evo? Initial D comfirmed

[@vikingfromthenorth7]

Bio Mate xD yes

[@scrapscrap2331]

But look at how fast the fd is in the straights

[@torusuetsugu2353]

Todo school civic and it's in yellow

[@centurionmk.1365]

S14 ...

[@111beni]

9:36 That Backfire THO!!!

[@usdm420xauttpavgcpedcp8]

Onkel Benz MISFIRING SYSTEM

[@emmyjasin]

missufiringu shisutemu!

[@scottpartridge7281]

Afterfire* as backfire exits through the intake, and afterfire is a result of unburnt fuel dumped into a super hot exhaust pipe, making the "bang bang" and the sweet, sweet, fire that rotaries blow so well

[@runt0r]

@@emmyjasin Ge! shifto missen!

[@craigb6185]

@@scottpartridge7281 after fire?😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 yeah ok

[@Brock_Landers]

Yeah, the Civic has the B18C engine, and it's been lightened, so it's a monster in the turns with excellent exiting capabilities, but you can't hold off those higher power turbo cars. Now what should really happen is to put a turbo on the B18C and that Civic would almost surely dominate this course.

[@TheBb6prelude]

It was actually a b16b with a bigger crank

[@scareyaf]

Hahaha noticed the start music is a huge rocky rip off. Just makes it more awesome.

[@edzgt5243]

scareyaf you fucken druggo

[@TonyEG6]

scareyaf sass mate

[@crunchy3651]

Absolute druggo

[@N.n.i.k]

hah...what ya know mate

[@itsjussjerry]

That 86 sounds amazing!

[@RastaRider]

7:27 GAHD I LOVE the sound of these high revving, small displacement four cylinders!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I miss my supercharged FA5 :'(

[@BlitzzGames]

Used some parts of this video in a class presentation to prove that Japan's car scene is quite serious and competitive... i forgot to cut out the beginning 😭

[@sloweg3113]

Lol how'd it go?

[@BlitzzGames]

@@sloweg3113 i just skipped to the middle right away, but not of course without panicking and pausing it for a good 5 seconds

[@JujutsuHeiho]

I actually hate the last part of that track design. It's where all the good handling low powered cars get ate up. The Civic and AE86 probably would of been ahead of that section wasn't there. The whole course is good besides that last part. It's a turbo car only section since it is an uphill stretch.

[@TheBb6prelude]

yes I definitely agree ,that uphill kills every NA car. NA cars just don't have the torque for the uphill compared to the turbo cars,maybe a very aggressive NA built paired with super short gears will hold its own .

[@ivannosic9570]

+f2b.....f20bEG remember that those N/A are even smaller in displacement than their turbo opponents so this comp it is very Unffair I mean 1.6cc N/A vs 2.0 and 2.1cc turbo... but those turbo had to be replaced at the end of the race so turbos are also more expensive to race tho

[@TheBb6prelude]

Ivan Nosic a k20 or k24 setup with a 5.1 final drive would make a big difference.

[@DoubleCGamesStudios]

+Ivan Nosic No, i don't think that the displacement was the problem. The real problem was indeed, the big power gap between the N/A cars and Turbo ones. The big bonus on Turbo vehicles is they have a huge advantage on straight segments, having the boost pushing them. For example, if the Civic would have been even lighter and a bit more powerful, it could have been in the top 3. Same with Tsuchiya's 86, it could have even won the race. If you want to be sure about this, check the video when Tsuchiya, Orido race against a GT-R.

[@ivannosic9570]

+DoubleC the displacement gets Magnified and therefore the power/torque when you compare 2 engines specially moded ones so if you really want a more balanced comp. you/they should try smaller turbo engined cars against bigger N/A and NOT with same displacement ir even bigger on turbocharged ones wich is absolutely UNfair... but you got it right about the extra puch on stright segments but remember that turbo engines suffer way more on tricky tracks due to temp and stress variations thats a fact.

[@Miamiboi305]

I love how the rx7 just chilled and when he wanted said time to get involved lol. Went from why's the car not even competing to damn that things moving

[@mugmushrooms9845]

Year 2100AD and these videos still brings the child in me

[@PxtoLV96]

The AE86 sounds amazing!! Love it

[@waste4245]

That S14 looks beautiful with the three spokes, have to say

[@duro845]

Very intense race. These guys are going all out I love it

[@Kypcia]

7:06 gap closed so quick!

[@TheReid1233]

Nobody gana talk about that beautiful rx7? Last to second, first if given another lap. Rotaries are insane.

[@your_stepdad]

that lan evo is a monster

[@cvgbcs]

love this program, what year was it aired on tv?

[@miroshi]

1997 I guess

[@cvgbcs]

i was too young :( but the 90's cars generation will always be my favorite. Another quick question, wheres do you get the "raws"?

[@miroshi]

Japan

[@myrips2fat]

***** hotversiongt they upload stuff on their youtube channel. and sell these videos on vimeo and stuff. They just had a fundraiser to continue the series and it raised well over their goal.

[@1978蒼龍]

何があったのか知らないけど、この号は全員始めから本気の全開ガチンコだなぁ。 BMでもHVでも1周目から、ここまで本気モードの映像って極めて少ない。安全マージンを相当削っているもの。

[@磯野波平-h1u]

バトル後に殴り合いしたらしいよ

[@WeiJie_Chen]

Rx7 FD3S is the best^^

[@PrehistoricBeasts]

Thank you for the videos and the translations! Looking to buy my first Civic soon, hyping myself up with the videos.

[@howieewalt1322]

First 5 seconds made this completely worth.

[@天ヶ瀬奈月-l9c]

14乗りとしてはこの動画を何回も見に来てしまう！

[@reneeharewood5053]

Legendary cars with legendary engines.. great you guys

[@petertimowreef9085]

I always thought these guys were just playing Gran Turismo in real life. But then it occured to me that it's exactly the other way around: The makers of Gran Turismo just made a game out of what Best Motoring does irl.

[@LucasBakker]

Is it me or is Tsuchiya his car running awfull? Is sound like it is holding back at around 5500-6000 (est), is it running rich?

[@TheBb6prelude]

That's the difficulty about tuning those old carb motors.

[@mauricemotors8207]

@@TheBb6prelude Most of those engines are all EFI besides the AE

[@Drifter5696]

@@mauricemotors8207 4age was efi aswell but it is mpi

[@zel6274]

I love how Japanese drivers are super serious and sharp in their movements but laugh a few times in the battle ;)

[@mastercc4509]

Have always loved these but people need to realize there was some choreography and this was more of an exhibition than a real race. Super fun tho. Been watching these since I lived on the mountain. Still have an s14 with an ls2 in the garage. Getting another RB was gonna cost too much sadly.

[@mokoham2471]

織戸学若いけど声が全く変わらないのねw

[@oscarzt1652]

why does the hachi roku sound like it's misfiring on corner exit?

[@macdiddles7000]

All the real racing is in Japan and Europe

[@roknroller6052]

Europe has no real car culture, Motorsport is almost dead, mostly promoting formula-E nonsense...

[@JoseSantos-ys3rj]

@@roknroller6052 we have a lot of touring car championships. way better than NASCAR, all i see is arcaic v8's always turning left. Also, Le Mans. So Europe clearly has motorsport

[@roknroller6052]

@Mário Santos... I think it was touring cars, that are now turbocharged for environmental reasons. Also pretty sure they all have the same front possibly rear crossmember and suspension set up, so you're not actually watching different cars compete as a lot of the major components are universalized. Le Mans the modern cars are too heavy and uninteresting, it was the Porsche 956, 917 The Marcos, Mazda 787b and many more that truly captured the spirit of LeMans.. Formula One cars are now just as uninteresting with there lazy turbos, bring back the 1400hp NA v12s. NASCAR they extract like 900hp from as you say archaic NA v8's, Yet formula one v8's needs turbochargers to match that power, haha.. Finally Rally, Heavy boring cars, like Nissan cubes and citron Picassos, What about Group B 880kg 550hp Lancia delta S4 or the 1000kg 630hp Audi Sport Quattro S1 or the E2... they did a time attack on a stage with a brand new Audi S1 autocross 650hp monster and it was 1.7sec slower than the 35 year older group b Sport Quattro S1, Haha FYI not a fan of modern NASCAR, The 50s -90s was epic...

[@bubbleman2002]

@@roknroller6052 cope

[@Nicolas-bu5uv]

​@@roknroller6052 someone tell him

[@phlatphour4285]

Just another Tuesday for these guys

[@stews7]

FEEDs red shop car. One of my favorite JDM cars ever.

[@p.clarke8019]

the more I watch these videos the more I love japanese cars absolutely love them!

[@saracen7774]

wow what a race. evo got a puncher or it would hav won.overran the first corner in the first lap too.

[@TheBb6prelude]

No way the evo was going to win the brakes fading.

[@dragking9735]

the FD3S runs like a daily driven car without a sweat, that rpm only runs at 7-8k rpm, i wonder if it push pass to 9k

[@goracks69]

That Civic is a great car! Bur an N/A 1.6L stroked to 1.8L is no match for a turbo 2.0L

[@rabbon-ithegenesis7169]

evo would have won if wasn't for that flat tire, look how it was leaving the silvia, you can see it has some serious power the way it pulls

[@TheBb6prelude]

Not with that brake fade. The other turbo cars would have pass it.

[@rabbon-ithegenesis7169]

@@TheBb6prelude you mean soft to flat tire. Try breaking hard with a leaking tire that's getting soft to eventually being flat. Will feel like brake fade.

[@LJW1912]

This is just like real-life Gran Turismo, love it!

[@vainxler]

How many rpm for this AE86 at max power? Probably very high..but torque is low.

[@shinzantetsu]

Thanks for posting, awesome video

[@Tony-112]

That S14 was going for a Sunday drive lol

[@gabrielsabode]

9:38 the dorito seems to be getting a little angry.

[@maybelive765]

That AE86 makes HOW MUCH POWER??? It only made sense the little EK9 lost... NEEDS MORE POWAAAA

[@fullbass1426]

That ae86 is amazing in the corners.

[@avanjob205]

Damn those rims are so retro now :D So sad that the evo3 had a flat tire LoL

[@FrancaisMaggle]

Rooo ils étaient chaud patates pour celle là 😂👌. Bonne guerre sur la piste !

[@kostasevagelidis]

Αrigato Miroshi for the translation!!You re the best!!

[@GrauHer]

Ohh... I'm in love of that turbo flutters...

[@stance076]

This is so fun to watch I wish I could race with them

[@axelanzueta2462]

And what happen to all of them they still doo new videos?

[@_kylejohnson_]

Why does that eight six have two valve covers with oil caps..?

[@EbolaSquirrel]

gotta love the track used on this from the movie "chonky"

[@inoculati0n]

man that AE86 sounds awesome, cool car

[@magnum7068]

Watching tsuchia driving is so satisfying

[@Toyota4Life]

Toyota Corolla is such a beast. Oldest car there and it still kicks ass

[@PLMCPL17]

People didnt understand the title... It's all about the civic against the power of other cars.

[@golf1diesel]

Keisuke vs Seiji(EVO borrowed from SUdou Kyoichi),Yellow Civic is Tomoyuki,AE86 Takumi :D

[@rockolutheran]

that rx7 looks so fucking sexy

[@fn_sndit2910]

The 90s-early 00s these cars were dominating the streets. The JDM golden era. Some these engines and cars that where coming out from Japan during that time were no joke. Some even became legendary and are still running and making power.

[@FuckPunkers]

Aren't the cars supposed to be 1.6L or below?

[@pdr_2703]

Thanks for the subtitles

[@superjervis]

@ 7:00 lol

[@電車でDick]

The Opinionator IKE DORI DORI

[@babylov3r]

4wd weakness is in corner sector. Evo 3 got good pick up after past the corner.

[@thedailygossip9109]

the engine actually has a few rare upgrades at the time..

[@alanhoward4082]

90's JDM cars all day

[@RdSAW11]

..I can't like this video enough..! Urgh.. what an awesome assortment of cars..

[@lethargicvideos7992]

6:29 the type r driver is a pro

[@CallumDoyleDarling]

I love how Orido's strategy at the halfway mark is to lose the race 🤷‍♂️

[@power_of_r6033]

" tuning anyone can do" for an arm and a leg of course

[@s19149]

+Power_of_R I do think they were being sarcastic :P They were the same with the ae86 down playing the fact it had a formula atlantic 4age, all the while they were clearly smirking while talking about the "low powered" N/A cars :)

[@NLRevZ]

+s19149 The irony is that it's not even a FT 4A-GE, it's a regular bluetop with more aggressive camshafts, high compression and running on methanol. A real cheap way of getting N2-like power out of a simple engine, but as you might've noticed it is very difficult to compensate for the course's altitude, leading it to run less than optimally. :-)

[@RastaRider]

+Power_of_R Nah, they meant physically. Not financially haha

[@jeanmitchell1648]

thanks miroshi san ! good good good .

[@dailymods9308]

@9:38 The rx7 shot a beautiful flame

[@TheCamarwilliams]

replay of the last race in Initial D AE86 vs RX7 vs Evo Emperor

[@TheCamarwilliams]

how the 86 and the FD overtake the Evo.

[@TheCamarwilliams]

fc

[@rabbon-ithegenesis7169]

WillOf Savage evo had a flat tire for couple laps then he realised it. he was saying it was the brakes but it was a flat.

[@brendanjames7707]

Roku was on slicks. Probably why it was carrying insane cornering speeds.

[@Devilmcry4]

в начале ролика обзор машин 0:40, нам показывают ступицу 4х100 на civic ek9 ???? Что за фигня?)

[@nismospek]

280 ps from 1.6, crazy

[@saitama_REPEZEN]

伝説達が可愛い顔して伝説のマシン操ってるの貴重すぎる映像。

[@Charvel86]

I was on the edge of my seat, AE86 WOW!

[@soraaoixxthebluesky]

This is seriously better than F1

[@felipezikadobaile21]

caraio onde esses cara arruma esses video ,curti ,ali e pal a pal , quem pilota melhor leva

[@hachirokuae8657]

I like the beginning of the video

[@Japsown]

I really do not understand by Evo 3, evo4 and GTO are always got cornering issue.

[@rabbon-ithegenesis7169]

Evo had a flat left front tire from the get go making it very hard to corner.

[@IAW_OPSEC]

Damn they need to start selling some evo 3 and Mint condition s14 over in the states. I’ll gladly sell my daily mercury mariner and v8 s10 for pewter colored s14

[@kapengbarako8877]

The video made realistic Initial D. The Evo is the dominating of all seconded by FC but 86's driver is a monster so that it will became the fastest of all.