The hour and minute hands really needed to be a contrasting color to everything else. Its extremely difficult to spot them.
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR3 жыл бұрын
That seems to be a common problem with most skeletonised watches unfortunately.
@tantu23953 жыл бұрын
That's where the charming of skeleton watches is, no one can read it but you, because you known how to move your wrist to get a good position to read.
@hackmechanic3 жыл бұрын
Even knowing they were there, I looked for the hands and had a hard time pulling them out of the face. Nope. Not good. Not acceptable. Had they painted the hands white or red or orange or anydamnedcolour other than black, it wouldn't have taken away from the skeletonization of the watch, and made it useful as a time piece. I'm sure it's a great watch. It needs a revision. Make the damned hands a contrasting colour.
@Alias_Anybody3 жыл бұрын
Should have made them orange as well.
@MrPleers3 жыл бұрын
It's the wristwatch version of "Where is Waldo ?"
@tannerlarson2763 жыл бұрын
Make it 38mm and change the handset. You would broaden your market so much! The case size is comically big.
@wumingkkk3 жыл бұрын
Yes, the watch is way too big if not it is really a good looking skeleton watch.
@ufomichaelcody20372 жыл бұрын
I got this watch and gold and black let me tell you something it shocked me. I was lucky enough to get it for $360 now they're selling it for $100 more I Amazon for $460. It's a beautiful watch people ask me all the time and they see it. It's my favorite watch
@andrei-cosmin.popa853 жыл бұрын
Vibrations don't really break a watch, as far as I tested. I mean, I never take the watch off of my wrist when I wax the dolphin and I usually do that at rabbit speeds, and the watch works fine, so... Yeah.
@arkiepoo3 жыл бұрын
LOL fully wound
@CdeMaDaejsAripi3 жыл бұрын
I see a lot of people complaining about the legibility and whilst that's fair enough it seems like the watch is more of a statement piece than a tool to tell the time to me
@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR3 жыл бұрын
Skeleton watches scare me! You never see a skeletonized car do ya??? Hmmm! All the best my friend and merry Christmas!
@jeb-zf4un3 жыл бұрын
There are loads of skeletonised cars. Maybe not so many working skeletonised engines.
@arkiepoo3 жыл бұрын
Ariel Atom begs to differ!
@TheTownWatch3 жыл бұрын
😂
@lamborghinimiki2 жыл бұрын
Would be the same as showing the engine of the car
@PaddyMcMe2 жыл бұрын
Love it. Will be getting one. Thanks for this review. And in general thanks for your work, I'm a budget watch collector too and these videos make a huge difference to my buying habits. Mostly I stuck with Seikos and the occasional disappointment off of Aliexpress but now I've discovered sort of, prestige budget brands from your channel like Boderry, Ciga Design & Zelos. All of which I think deserving of praise. My only very very small complaint about this Ciga X is that they didn't use blue screws for the movement. They add interest and colour and would look perfect with the predominantly Orange, Black & Silver colouring of the watch. I'm not upset that they went with Mineral Glass on the back of the case instead of the Sapphire but I'd be curious to know just how much of a price difference there really is between sourcing a cheap Sapphire against a cheap Mineral Glass. I wouldn't think it's much. But I suppose when you're selling your watches this cheap even if it were a 5% saving on manufacturing by going to Mineral it'd be worth it in the long run. Have you seen the Christopher Ward C60 Sapphire watches? Comes in Blue & Orange, I prefer the blue. It has a 0.6mm semi-transparent sapphire watch face inside of it which lets you see some of the inner workings like the circular calendar date 'roll' as it were. The watch goes for a little under $1k USD which I think is still good value. Very interesting handsome divers watch.
@ggerhart3 жыл бұрын
Almost ordered until I say the hands, needs to be a different color.
@Hellcatvsworld3 жыл бұрын
They have introduced new one with different colors, go have a look maybe y will like it. I want to order one but still not sure about the quality 😂
@kewrock3 жыл бұрын
Tag Heuer uses a similar shock absorber suspension system for their Monaco 24 watch.
@StopFear3 жыл бұрын
Looks like the “Flux Capacitor”
@CyborgSodaCollects3 жыл бұрын
Should've been called the flux
@StopFear Жыл бұрын
More like Faux Capacitor
@jeb-zf4un3 жыл бұрын
They are the masters of Chinese skeletonised watches no doubt at all.
@mikehoward99122 жыл бұрын
My favorite conversation starter watch. Beautiful.
@JohnnyWestMagic3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Not to tell time, but as a ice breaker/conversation piece (wave hand close to her range of sight-almost as good as a Christmas puppie, lol). Merry Christmas & a Happy 2021!
@terilang89543 жыл бұрын
True! I always watch a man's wrist for watch.
@JohnnyWestMagic3 жыл бұрын
@@terilang8954 Ah ha! I KNEW it, lol...
@skybellrock3 жыл бұрын
@@terilang8954 Wait. Do you actually or is this irony? :D
@rajuncajun28183 жыл бұрын
Join the Facebook fan page. Please received the watch with screws missing and one person watch didn’t have the holes drilled for the straps. Buyers beware
@fez8773 жыл бұрын
The movement is actually straight from seagull without any modifications. Ciga just design a "skeleton" plate and slap on top of the movement. It's basically the same moment found in Pagani design skeleton watch. Again, the same strategy the Chinese watch company used, design a skeleton plate and slap it on top and called it "customised"
@tonypower93153 жыл бұрын
They work closely with seagull in China for the movements. Some models use a variant of the 316L , i think it’s called. Very cool watches, they have a good line up with choices as low as 130€ and up to 300€ ish...the uk has a great store to check out.
@JasonTheWatchGuy3 жыл бұрын
Love the design and suspension casing...would be nice to be able to tell the time on it though.
@briancolyer84833 жыл бұрын
Interesting design, the suspension thing is fascinating, think Formex (terrible name) do something similar....I would definitely use it on a desk, suspended similar to a pocket watch on a stand....⌚🏴⌚🏴
@RaphaelRousseau3 жыл бұрын
I've backed this project and opted for the titanium version (cool effect + blue colored X frame). The project leader asked if the Gorilla's face should be removed, I said yes, and apparently they're going to remove this useless detail that doesn't add anything to the watch. Thanks for this review! I'm just disappointed to read so many haters comments here, really useless...
@angrybanana62233 жыл бұрын
I can't believe I'm typing this but I like it...a lot.
@michaelvoorhees5978 Жыл бұрын
How are you liking it after owning it?
@phil20823 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to disassemble this ourselves? What does it take to get brightly contrasting hour and minute hands?
@halfpastblog3 жыл бұрын
I don't really like skeletonized watches but there is something about this I really like. It's got a real Voltron feel to this 80s kid. 😁👊
@jpdde7027 Жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/qIK9kKqKhthobck
@arkiepoo3 жыл бұрын
I ordered this thing last week when it was released. My Ciga Z is one of my favourite pieces and incredible for the money. I'd prefer some orange on the hands and a chapter ring. But thats far from a deal breaker for me.... just look at that thing. Awesome video and fast becoming one of my favourite watch channels.
@mrkevn78722 жыл бұрын
Hello,after a year did you check how accurate is the ciga z series watch? I know that those watches are not so much into the accuracy and they are more into the look thing but I am really curious. Thank you!
@arkiepoo2 жыл бұрын
@@mrkevn7872 I cancelled my order for the X after the pictures of the watch looked nothing like the Kickstarter prototypes and people reported screws and stuff falling out. I sold my ciga Z pretty quickly too.. fell out of love. I can't reccomend this brand and there are better alternatives these days.
@mrkevn78722 жыл бұрын
@@arkiepoo Thank you very much! Please may you suggest me another brand which is a better option?
@noobfl3 жыл бұрын
Xiaomi (the company behind Ciga Design) have such an interessting history.. it starts all as a custom firmware producer for rooted android devices, then cames smartphones, accessoires for smartphones and today, Xiaomi has become a real ACME.. they even sell designer spoons (im not kidding). This watch looks like the reasanable prised version of a Richard Mille. Thats fidding, after the first watch from Ciga was a take on the Applewatch. Probably the next one will be a take on a A Lange & Söhne Datograph Perpetual Tourbillon ;)
@arkiepoo3 жыл бұрын
Z series looks even more like an RM. This one is actually pretty original with the square case. Maybe some inspiration from the Jacob and co epic X.
@caktaylor3 жыл бұрын
The straps need black buckles to match the watch.
@loganholmberg22953 жыл бұрын
How do you read the time on this easily? I feel like Id need to turn the lights off to find the hands by their loom... no thanks. Kinda sad really. I want to like skeleton watches.
@jacobschultheis99583 жыл бұрын
If you watch the video he explains there are notches in the case that help you read it. But reading if easily is not the goal of skeleton watches.
@michaelvoorhees5978 Жыл бұрын
Put on your glasses
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR3 жыл бұрын
That is a really skeletonised watch. It does look good. I juts wish they had made the hands a different colour to stand out. Great review Dave.
@HarryBunnGRVOTV3 жыл бұрын
You can get a timegrapher on your phone, i have down a video about it, it works really well but needs complete silence.
@NathanChisholm0413 жыл бұрын
I like that it not copying anything else!
@JVan-ic6ic3 жыл бұрын
Well they kind of copied formex’s suspension system 🤷🏼♂️
@WaitingforUlcers3 жыл бұрын
The uniqueness is oddly enticing. However, the macro shots show a lot of poor finishing, which I know happens with watches in this price tier. The Boderry is still my favorite in this tier, especially since you get titanium and a 70+ hour reserve. That said, I’ve got my eye on the Ingersoll Orville. Little higher price, but it looks amazing. Thanks for this review, I’ve seen it all over Facebook!
@arkiepoo3 жыл бұрын
I think the ones with Gorillas are their prototype units. Some of the screw heads were a bit marked as well. I'd expect a bit better during final production as they won't have been tinkered with.
@GodIsInHisHeaven3 жыл бұрын
I normally don't like Skeleton watches....and I still don't
@curtisxxu3 жыл бұрын
If they combined some of the design language of this with the idea of the ciga design z series I think they would have a beautiful watch
I'm really looking forward to your review of the Boderry skeleton. From the looks of the unboxing, it strikes me as better as a watch, ie for telling the time, never mind titanium, three day power reserve, better size, cheaper, and not crowd funded. I'm done with crowd funding.
@arkiepoo3 жыл бұрын
Ciga aren't really crowd funding any more. It's more of a way to launch their products. A few years ago not so much. These are ready to ship in Jan.
@amazingshortclips92673 жыл бұрын
Everything perfect except the straps kinda not match over such big size... Could have broadened or improve strap to watch joint which would make the whole watch looks more premium.....
@jeybi6753 жыл бұрын
I think it's more like an accessory than a watch you use to tell the time. Because you need a willpower to read what exactly the time with that watch.
@michaelvoorhees5978 Жыл бұрын
Look at your phone like everybody else
@JVan-ic6ic3 жыл бұрын
I mean Formex has a suspension system.
@pjcutesalgado72013 жыл бұрын
I'm wearing eyeglass so I need to bring always a magnifying 🔎 glass to check the time.😅 ill go with the gshock the time would be clear as of my days.
@sreekarpolepalli2 жыл бұрын
Will you please send me the exact link to buy
@d.stiefel8693 жыл бұрын
Dave, can you tell us what you're shooting with? Your shots look awesome and your close ups are really great!!!
@JusttheWatch3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I'm using a Panasonic Lumix g8!
@yongwoo10202 жыл бұрын
Show the back! Damn dude. Hella frustrating
@artswri Жыл бұрын
Definitely unique, really pretty cool
@J0RR133 жыл бұрын
I have the z series DLC and that one is kinda readable but I fear for the readability on this one...
@Bjarkanskanal3 жыл бұрын
Did you buy it directly from their website or did you back the indiegogo company?
@patricj9513 жыл бұрын
The tiny and finetuned mechanism in a mechanical watch is fascinating. But I would not like to get a skeleton watch because it makes the watch very ugly and also makes it more difficult to read the time. A window on the backside is cool, though! But for sure: a watch like in the video surely makes attention whereever you go and is surely an effective way to get into watch talk with people!
@michaelvoorhees5978 Жыл бұрын
You have the right to be wrong
@AliasEveWatches3 жыл бұрын
I wished they made the and minute hands orange too. I can only see the seconds hand. :(
@fr0d0scious3 жыл бұрын
Dave.. Do you think this watch is better than the Boderry? Different propositions I know but which do you think is best value? More design this one and technical the Boderry? Thank you
@michaelvoorhees5978 Жыл бұрын
Gotta love KZbinrs who don't appreciate and reply to their viewers who make them huh?
@VOIDVIDS3 жыл бұрын
did ciga custom make the skeletonization?
@TxRWesker3 жыл бұрын
Yes, because they did the entire movement.
@watchalot9193 жыл бұрын
Don't be a cheapskate, buy yourself a timegrapher, all watch enthusiasts need one
@michaelvoorhees5978 Жыл бұрын
What is it
@corismaster71683 жыл бұрын
Beatrate must be incredibly low..seconds hand seems tick very visibly
@Chris.BootsontheGround3 жыл бұрын
As waterproof as toilet paper🤷♂️, waste of money as its designed as a sports watch.
@paulshreenan39632 жыл бұрын
Like so many skeletonized watches, this watch is basically unreadable. Nice design , but the hands are also skeletonized which is a huge mistake, solid and thick hands are a sine qua non. Got to have it, thick readable hands.
@MyAlan9993 жыл бұрын
Case design looks great - love the colours but skeleton dials are not for me :( Merry Christmas to you and your family Dave , thanks for all the great content over 2020
@Robbe19843 жыл бұрын
I wonder what it looks like through the watch when you're sweating during the summers
@BL-jm9ww3 жыл бұрын
Hi, for this type of watch, can normal watch repairer service it? or do i need to send it back to ciga?
@JusttheWatch3 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure. I kind of think you might have a hard time finding a watch maker to work on it, as it's a customized chinese movement and a custom case.
@ndb46263 жыл бұрын
How do I get this to deliver in india?
@gediminaskontrimas79923 жыл бұрын
Cool. Thanks.
@ngovannam73293 жыл бұрын
Where can I buy it in Viet Nam?
@stonker773 жыл бұрын
Definitely a conversation piece.
@stevchik3 жыл бұрын
Is the watch very loud when it moves? I know a complaint of the previous Z series was how loud it is.
@JusttheWatch3 жыл бұрын
It's noiser than most Japanese movements, but I didn't find it terribly noticable. But I suppose different people will tolerate it differntly.
@siamakuk20042 жыл бұрын
What's the strap size?
@StopFear3 жыл бұрын
Those watch hands are impossible to see.
@michaelvoorhees5978 Жыл бұрын
I can see them.. so no they're not
@clivegoldhagen46003 жыл бұрын
They are hard to read. But so are most skeleton watches, including Richard Mille. And look how much they sell for. These kind of watches are almost just pieces of jewellery. You want to know the time, look at your smart phone.
@patricj9513 жыл бұрын
I agree. Also watches with subdials and a lot of markings makes it difficult to read the time, and therefore I am not a fan of these. And actually the most watches above 100 dollars(except from diving watches) are to be considered as jewelries with a watch function. The budget watch shows the time as good as the multi thousand dollars luxury watch.
@BCallum3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. I like the idea of a skeletonized watch...Love the second hand (I can see it) But, I need it to tell the time. It is a great looking "device", but its function as a watch is almost nil...I would pass. Thanks!!
@michaelvoorhees5978 Жыл бұрын
Look at your phone like everybody else
@rashedkhan9123 жыл бұрын
How much. ???
@CyborgSodaCollects3 жыл бұрын
Welp I just spent $200 on a Casio GW-5510-1BJF. Im done with smart watches for now.
@bartglover223 жыл бұрын
When it comes to legibility in a skeleton watch Boderry have it sorted. You can get it with yellow hands, a smart move because the eye will automatically go to the yellow colour.
@johnleonard39513 жыл бұрын
They did not do a good job keeping the inside clean whan they put the watch together
@Mr.YouTube77 Жыл бұрын
NICE
@matthiasvangysel9383 жыл бұрын
maybe you should check out "astos"
@ZiggityPow3 жыл бұрын
You'll need to demagnetize the movement twice a day.
@nineteenninetyfive3 жыл бұрын
Why is that?
@Shri_V3 жыл бұрын
What's the background music at the start? It feels familiar but I can't place it.
@JusttheWatch3 жыл бұрын
It's called Motel Rock, by this guy: kzbin.info/door/Y-Rb2-JgAgiR_qzsMRq3qA
@Shri_V3 жыл бұрын
@@JusttheWatch Thanks! Parts of it remind of Me Jane by PJ Harvey.
@stevemoreno62413 жыл бұрын
Looks like it would be hard to see the time. I feel most skeletonized watches have this fault.
@craig21003 жыл бұрын
Interesting watch
@ZiggityPow3 жыл бұрын
As a watch this is going to be terrible. As a wrist art novelty this looks interesting.
@floydmorrison20253 жыл бұрын
I think the tonneau case Ciga Design Z-Series skeleton watch ($199 on Amazon) is far superior to this in every way. The hands are color-tipped & there's a variety of different colored silicone strap options. This one is just downright ugly IMO.
@michaelvoorhees5978 Жыл бұрын
You have every right to me terribly wrong. This looks soooo much better!!!
@finesse493 жыл бұрын
The primary purpose of a watch is to show the time. The hands are almost invisible on this one at a normal viewing distance so it's useless on top of being extremely ugly.
@michaelvoorhees5978 Жыл бұрын
Wrong
@weiday33723 жыл бұрын
Is this watch self winding?
@owl234523 жыл бұрын
Yes, you can see the rotor in the back. :) You can also wind it manually.
@scofield35593 жыл бұрын
🔴 Is it a water resist ?
@owl234523 жыл бұрын
It's splash-resistant but that's it. You could get away with showering with it when the seals are new.
@lifeofkevin9553 жыл бұрын
I seen in a video you posted awhile back and you had the orient ser2moo3w but when I type that in on eBay, Amazon, google etc nothing comes up. Any help would be appreciated to where I could find that watch at online. Thanks
@lefroy13 жыл бұрын
A square case of that size is always going to struggle. It looks almost comedically oversized, and WHY is it so difficult for skeletonised watch makers to choose handsets that are actually legible?
@johanribaeus3 жыл бұрын
CIGA Design is a scam! I'm a backer. I and thousands of other backers are not getting their watches. The matter has been escalated and Indiegogo is now reviewing their campaign(s). It's completely crazy. Stay away from CIGA Design!
@JusttheWatch3 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear that. This being their third or 4th campaign I had hoped it would have been a safe bet.
@michaelvoorhees5978 Жыл бұрын
You got it didn't you
@emperor.augustus3 жыл бұрын
Nice US$30 looking watch, that's it. I wouldn't buy it even with a gun to my head. Pretty comfusing to tell the time, it lacks quality (a lot). I can tell you got it for free.
@gillsaab73913 жыл бұрын
Where to buy this watch help Me plz
@clarksonboy3 жыл бұрын
Is this watch hackable? Great review as usual...keep up the good work!
@JusttheWatch3 жыл бұрын
Yes, it is!
@michaelvoorhees5978 Жыл бұрын
What the hell does that mean? Lol is it a smart watch?
@michaelvoorhees5978 Жыл бұрын
@@JusttheWatch what does that mean? I'm new
@JusttheWatch Жыл бұрын
@@michaelvoorhees5978 it means when you pull the crown out to set the time the second hand stops moving.
@michaelvoorhees5978 Жыл бұрын
@@JusttheWatch oh ok cool
@aldysyaputrowidiyanto37333 жыл бұрын
Good 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@JerryDoe3 жыл бұрын
Only a watch collector knows that this is a piece of overpriced junk. It has a low quality cloned Chinese movement @ 21.000bph and 8 hours reserve power (nothing self developed) you pay $300 without shipping ! Compared to this Chinese skeleton watch which gives you a lot of oompf "Boderry Urban Men's Titanium Watch" sold on AliExpress - costs 145 dollar with shipping - skeleton design - titanium case - a high quality clone movement that ticks at 28,800 bph and 72 hours reserve power !!!! - comes with a leather strap and rubber !
@zerox6153 жыл бұрын
Cool watch, but not practical at all.
@michaelvoorhees5978 Жыл бұрын
Neither are electric cars..... people buy them
@Nefville3 жыл бұрын
I challenge anyone to pause the video on an image of the watch and turn your head and try to tell the time in less than 5 seconds. . . . . . Don't care if I can read it but it's ruined by the size for me.
@ozziebrito45273 жыл бұрын
Always love you reviews. I have to say. Thai watch is not for me. 🤪
@MadMax76er3 жыл бұрын
Legibility would have been helped if all the hands were coloured
@GottiRC3 жыл бұрын
I canceled mines, overpriced junk. The minute I saw on alibaba this case etc and for cheap I was like nah... its just a gimmick overpriced junk.