Book of Mormon Impossibilities (*Edits in video description!)

[@itsmejessie]

*FIRST, let's list many more Book of Mormon problems I didn't include in this video: 1) Baptism (wrong time period) 2) Goats 3) Swine - I said they wouldn't be useful to Jews but swine in general were not in America! 4) Chariots or wheeled vehicles 5) Compass!!! 6) Both steel and iron 7) Metal swords, which had "rusted" 8) Cimiters - The word was never used by the Hebrews or any other civilization prior to 450 AD. 9) System of exchange based on measures of grain using precious metals as a standard 10) Knowledge of Hebrew and Egyptian languages - None of the documented Mesoamerican language scripts have any known relation to Hebrew or Egyptian. 11) "Christ" and "Messiah" - improperly used, wrong time period. 12) Greek names 13) "Church" and "synagogue" - improperly used for time period. 14) "Adieu" - Modern French word used in Book of Mormon More details: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anachronisms_in_the_Book_of_Mormon Want further details about horses, swine, bees, steel and many other Book of Mormon anachronisms written by MORMON PEOPLE? Also includes the LDS "rebuttals." www.mormonthink.com/book-of-mormon-problems.htm MY MISTAKES IN THIS VIDEO: *I made a mistake in my initial mention of bees... I wasn't clear in my notes and got the location mixed up. But the second mention of bees I stand by. Bees were not in the Americas until the 1600s. *I want to apologize for my use of the term "Mongoloid." I had no idea it was a derogatory term or that it had anything whatsoever to do with Down syndrome. The definition I was using is as follows: "Mongoloid - relating to the broad division of humankind including the indigenous peoples of East Asia, Southeast Asia, and the Arctic region of North America." This was a term used by my source where I got lots of this information from and I wasn't aware of the offensive qualities it has. I was only making the point that that the Native American's DNA is not Semitic/Jewish and is Asian. *Olives and Butter are mentioned in the Book of Mormon but not mentioned being in America so this was a geography mistake. *Let's talk "Manuscript Found" by Solomon Spaulding: there are sworn affidavits stating that the manuscript for his book listed the names Mormon, Moroni, Nephites and Lamanites. His book was not published at this time, keep in mind. If you want to know the truth of this for yourself, I suggest you research it rather than taking my word or anyone else's word for it. I found multiple sources online that show the sworn affidavits of his manuscript containing the names found in the Book of Mormon. Because of this, I mentioned it in the video. Wanna research it for yourself? Here's a couple good places to start: www.russellyanderson.com/response/spalding.htm solomonspalding.com/tanrpg/1977Tanr.htm Here is a link to the CES Letter, which refutes Mormonism in unbelievable detail from the Book of Mormon to the Prophets and their teachings to the history of the church. GO READ IT!!! And watch my video on the CES Letter as well where I give the main points and "highlights." cesletter.com LDS.org's take on the population issues: www.lds.org/study/ensign/1992/09/i-have-a-question/what-do-we-know-about-the-numbers-of-nephites-and-lamanites?lang=eng My video on the FAKE Book of Abraham: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iaralIieqdhmg7c Dennis and Rauni Higley's blog (where I got this content): www.namb.net/apologetics-blog/the-truth-about-mormonism/ MY KZbin CHANNEL with many more videos: kzbin.info/door/wiPYUcQrYaxEdM9VjH4-rA My email: [e-mail]

[@alexchavez3244]

It's Me Jessie it’s sad how Christians think they’re good people when the slaved blacks and native Americans and Europeans who where agnostic and Rosicrucians sad but true these white supremacy religions have done the Spanish Inquisition and have to stop.

[@alexchavez3244]

And Joseph Smith was a mason and he was killed by a mob of masons no one knows this and a master mason ring you get at the 33 ring with God’s name on it.

[@alexchavez3244]

Native Americans aren’t mongloid we are asiatic aboriginal like the people from Australia the eskimos are mongloids.

[@alexchavez3244]

The native Americans who build those pyramids where not human Sacrifice that was a white thing back in the day we killed criminals and people who where lazy because it was frown upon but in mexica society aka Aztec civilizations you had three times to free your self and in slavery it was expensive to have slaves because you needed cocoa beans to pay taxes to the emperor and in mexica society if you escaped your master and made it to the emperor you where free and if you where a slave and had a kid they could take your place and you could free them in European slavery if you had kids they’re where slaves as well and you had no way to free your self sad but true a lot of white washed history happens when they speak about the mexica aka Aztecs.

[@Link-ix1mp]

Well said!

[@paradoxchild01]

It sounds like the book was created at a time with with the acknowledgement that no one would be able to verify or question what the book was based on. It never should have survived past 1980.

[@BGCflyer]

I’ve been a member of the LDS church for 39 years. It seems that everything I’ve learned about Joseph Smith and the Book of Mormon are not true. It’s hard to admit it, but I think we’re going to leave the LDS church. Thank you Jessie for taking the time to go over these important details. Not sure if you read these comments or not. Any thoughts on how we can keep a Christ centered family life? We have teenagers daughters and our questioning of the LDS faith seems to motivate them to not believe anything at all.

[@eggy1933]

Hey Bruce, I think I know you. Just randomly saw your comment. I just hate to see people watch her videos and actually get affected by them. I have gone back and forth with her on several of her videos. She’s very good and finding a comment or mistake made by a leader and twisting it to mean something totally different. She takes things out of context and is very misleading, and a lot of the time, she’s just wrong. I can give many many examples of her doing this from her videos. Obviously churchofjesuschrist.org has many good answers. A good you-tuber is “latter-day Q&A” and has great videos with good information. Also fairmormon.org has great stuff.

[@alannahmay3823]

@@traviscarterdpm1040 The Book of Mormon says that the land was empty. And the LDS themselves very clearly taught me that no one was here when Lehi and his family arrived. Plus it was in all of their literature.

[@alannahmay3823]

I left after 40 years LDS. My husband and I were converts who had already believed in Jesus Christ. When we left Mormonism, we placed pictures of Jesus Christ all over the house--having checked to make sure that the artists were not LDS. We brought home tons of Christian literature and different versions of the Bible that are easier to read than King James. We watch lots of Christian videos. Denomination is left open for now, but we are determined that Christ is still King.

[@bcobb8444]

Eggy hi, I don’t always have time for KZbin so I’m sorry for my late response to you. Where do I know you from? Jessie is not a member and may get some things wrong but she has exposed a lot that the average member doesn’t know and she is accurate on most facts. More specifically, if one looks at Grant Palmers book, “An Insider’s View of Mormon Origins” a previous CES director, or Dan Vogal’s many books and KZbin posts, it is literally impossible to believe that Joseph Smith had the ability to accurately translate and that the Book of Mormon has no archeological evidence like we find with the Mayan people who also lived during the same time period yet we find thousands of artifacts that are Mayan. There is so much to discuss it would take pages and pages of reading. For me, Joseph Smith’s inability to translate, polygamy as a Celecial requirement, blood atonement and Joseph Smith’s changing view of the Godhead are just a few of the things that brought me to understand the difference between Biblical Christianity and LDS doctrine. Even though I know the current teachings don’t support most of the above mentioned items anymore, Joseph Smith did and he is the founder of this. Anyway, I don’t want you to leave the church or change your faith. This is just what I’ve experienced. I’m spent the past year reading fairmormon, the Church essays and praying with my wife for guidance. I still keep a Christ centered life. My wife and family attend a local Christian Church and we are happy with our decision. It’s hard to understand why other people don’t always believe what we believe is right but I am learning that God speaks to us in different ways.

[@robertrosskopf4641]

@@alannahmay3823 When Lehi's group arrived in America, they sent out a scout party. I doubt the scout party went more than 25 miles. The land was empty, but they found human remains. So, wrong on all counts.

[@johnhanlon506]

I witness to Mormon Missionaries a lot. I feel for these deceived folks. I bring up the fact that there is no evidence to support the book of mormon. I show them biblical truth! Pray for them!

[@robertrosskopf4641]

It's not a very fair comparison. Jerusalem has been continuously populated since biblical times. We hardly know what the natives in America called a handful of cities, and many cities were abandoned. The fact that there were cities, and cement houses, and level roads, and thrones and towers and fortifications, is evidence that the Book of Mormon is true. Ultimately, one has to trust in God.

[@barbwire7449]

No Joseph Smith translation has ever been confirmed or validated (outside of the LDS church) including the Book of Mormon or Book of Abraham (alias Book of Mummy). There are no manuscripts or scrolls to compare the BOM for accuracy and consistency since the scrolls (golden plates) were conviently whisked away by an angel. There is no Mormon history since an entire mighty civilization completely dissapeared without a trace, no archeology and no anthropology. The entire Mormon religion is based on one man's word and one man's vision, and a handful of witnesses from two families, one family consisting of Smith's two brothers and father. Not much proof when considering Christ had 500+ witnesses to His ressurection at Pentecost. The Joseph Smith Translation (JST), supposedly corrects the corruption and errors of the KJV that occurred down thru the centuries. Yet, not one single Greek/Hebrew document, scroll, manuscript, or inscription discovered since the writing of the JST (multiple hundreds, including the 1947 Dead Sea Scrolls, and 1979 New Dead Sea Scrolls) supports Smith's KJV correction. In fact, every single document disputes Smith's translations. The Great Isaiah Scroll (part of the DSS) dated 300 BC-100 AD disputes every verse of the JST Isaiah corrections. Smith wrote his own name in the JST Genesis 50, which is also disputed by the DSS. No Greek/Hebrew scholar or commission of scholars has ever used any of Smith's translations for any newly translated Bible, such as the KJV, NIV, Living Bible, etc, as a guide or standard, often reverting back to the DSS for new information. New Testament and Greek scholar Dr. Daniel Wallace, who digitized every known Greek manuscript, claims there are about, 5,838 Greek manuscripts and 25,000+ manuscripts in other languages such as Latin, Coptic, and Syriac. The translations of Greek/Hebrew manuscripts into foreign languages were always from the Greek/Hebrew into the foreign language, never from one language to another, to another, to another as the LDS church claims; therefore the basic meanings of the scriptures between languages has not changed or been corrupted. There are over one million quotes from Christian church fathers we can use to cross check the accuracy of the N.T. These quotes do not validate any of Smith's translations. The Ketef Hinnom Scrolls, an ancient text from the Book of Numbers, is dated 600 B.C., the approximate date the lost Hebrew tribe landed in America. It is the oldest Hebrew manuscript and it too supports the Book of Numbers, yet Mormonism has no evidence supporting their landing. Must I continue?

[@jeffwarren6906]

Jessie - I am still playing catchup . Some of the comments are so sharp and pithy in their attempt to refute. At some point we have to accept that some people are so brainwashed or so total atheistic that their hearts are beyond reaching . But as I mentioned before , your labor is not in vain . Some Mormons are waking up and coming to the real Jesus of the Bible .. BTW ,, Your Son is precious ..

[@BrianTerrill]

well, I just went throuh the first two and a half minutes of what she said and refuted everything she said with half my brain tied behind my back. You're the brainwashed one.

[@jeffwarren6906]

@@BrianTerrill - It sounds like you have made your choice as well Brian . It would of been interesting if you had listened to the entire video , and actually typed out a few of the refutations for us to read , which would of made your position stronger . Maybe having half your brain tied behind your back wasn't such a good idea afterall . Drive by refutings with no facts are never very impressive .. I suppose we both will find out who is brainwashed after our last breath is taken .. I do thank you though for the reply .

[@BrianTerrill]

@jeffwarren6906 There is no reason to listen to the entire video. She started off with historical inaccuracies. Am I supposed to pretend she gets smarter as the video goes on. And for the record, I did document my rebuttals with far better and less biased research than she apparently used, so do me a favor and don't play stupid with me.

[@jeffwarren6906]

@@BrianTerrill - Brian , I never said watch the entire video to see how much smarter Jessie gets ,, I said your position would be stronger if you listed your refutations in words , and wouldn't it be better to do that involving the entire video , rather than only two and a half minutes of it's beginning ? Common sense would be , if you want to destroy the information of an opponents video , which you clearly want to do , watch it all . Refuting two & a half minutes of a 26 minute video doesn't say anything about the remaining 24 minutes that may of been a bit more difficult to refute . Use your whole brain Brian . Lastly , trading banters between ourselves is probably a waste of time for both of us , as it seems we are both deeply rooted in our beliefs .

[@BrianTerrill]

@@jeffwarren6906 common sense is to not spend your time on a video that is obviously flawed from the beginning.

[@mimiberry8971]

Great video and presentation, I really liked it. I was raised LDS and am now born-again Christian. You have just touched the surface here, and I hope you continue these videos! I’ve thought a lot about doing something like this but with an entirely LDS family, it gets very touchy, and people get their feelings hurt. I sometimes struggle with what to do. Yesterday at my LDS grandmothers funeral, my dad got up and spoke about how we can only get to heaven if we try as hard as we can through works, and also spoke of how we chose our life on earth as premortal beings in heaven, and other nonsense that had me all white-knuckled in the church pew. I am so glad that learned the truth and got out, life is better with the true knowledge of our Savior and the grace that he has already granted us. I hope you’ll do a video on the differences in beliefs of LDS vs Christians, if you’re ever looking for a fellow concerned Christian friend, I’d love to be yours!

[@itsmejessie]

Mimi, thanks for your comment! Praise the Lord you found Him! This makes my heart so happy! I do have other videos posted.. have you checked out my full channel? And I plan to post many more! And and all insight, advice, etc. that you have to share is welcome! Feel free to send me an email at [e-mail] and we can talk further.

[@jamesmccluskey9175]

Born again? What is the gospel? The gospel isn't books. Matthew, Mark Luke, and John aren't the gospel, they teach the gospel. Then what is the true gospel of Jesus Christ? Answer- faith in the Lord Jesus Christ and his atonement, repentance, baptism by immersion for the remission of sin, receiving the gift of the Holy Ghost, and enduring to the end that is the gospel. invite others to come unto Christ by helping them receive the restored gospel through faith in Jesus Christ and His Atonement, repentance, baptism, receiving the gift of the Holy Ghost, and enduring to the end. 1. Matt 2413. 2. Matt 10:22. They want “peace in this world, and eternal life in the world to come” (Doctrine and Covenants 59:23), but they are “kept from the truth because they know not where to find it” (Doctrine and Covenants 123:12). How we are to be baptized! When we are baptized the baptizer must say the name of Jesus, because the bible says that the name of the father, Son, and Holy Ghost, is Jesus. Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are titles, not names! He didn't say, in the titles of.. And if you notice Jesus said name, singular. One name then he mentioned three titles: father, Son and Holy Ghost. 1. John 14:26 2. John 5:43 Jesus comes in the father's name John 5:43 Acts 4:12 Only one name is given whereby we must be saved. That isn't the titles of Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. Otherwise, you just got wet. There is no salvation without the name of Jesus.

[@andrewreed4216]

Have you bothered to study both sides of the argument or just one?

[@ummmuurdone7805]

James Mccluskey Amen. New Testament church must follow Acts 2:38

[@robchesley4591]

So glad you are doing what you're doing. You're a heavyweight fighter in the battle for truth. A walking, talking, reality check..

[@russellwood8628]

I really love your videos Jessie very informative very good work I have also been studying this Latter-Day saint Mormon thing doing doing research and learning about it and I can also see how it is full of error. Thank you Jesse keep up the good work. By the way I am a born again Christian I believe in the Full Gospel and I believe that God's word in the Holy Bible stands forever. Thanks again Jessie God bless you and your family.

[@xrpxlmxdcflatearth1099]

I had a LOL moment when you said, "Did the children build the temple?" Funniest thing ever!!!!

[@damienjstepick]

How I fell for this for so long is beyond me. 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@mothermovementa]

Init

[@carlduffin]

"How I fell for this for so long is beyond me." Init from me too!

[@hollayevladimiroff131]

I also, but I truly feel we had a veil over our eyes and ears, I escaped by wanting to know God better, not knowing I was attending a church who had a totally different God than what is in the bible, since I was hungry, God provided the food and I have never looked back.

[@UnderSprayedWhiteSkies]

I'm guessing you were indoctrinated into the Mormon cult from birth? If so, that kind of brainwashing is very difficult, if not impossible from which one can free her/himself, so kudos for having achieved such an accomplishment. That leads me to the NWO (1 World Rule/Brave New World/Tikkun Olam) indoctrination/deceptions/control/elimination system we've all accepted/trusted as either true, logical, or scientific "proofs" because we have been (heavily) indoctrinated/brainwashed to it from birth. In a nutshell, there are rulers (I consider them the ruling clan) that rule our world. They completely control money, governments, and media. They even control weather, but IMO the first three are the most strategic elements of modern society they control to establish, and maintain their vision of rule (NWO). You've seen through the Mormon deception, if you haven't awakened to NWO deceptions, you still have a long way to go (tip: no lie is too big for the NWO executioners given they have limitless $$, propaganda resources, and brainwashing expertise).

[@BrianTerrill]

@@hollayevladimiroff131 please, the first things she says in this video would be easily refuted by anyone familiar with the Bible. Are you dumb enough to believe in 600 BC that Hebrews only spoke Hebrew and not Egyptian? Then you didn't study the Bible did you.

[@Parker_Hudson]

Moses talked to a bush. "That's impossible". Moses came down with tablets from mount Sinai, "that's impossible." Elijah called down fire from heaven to burn wet wood "Well, science says that's impossible". You put a lot of limits on God in a very short amount of time with this video. You speak with SO much confidence as if you are God... able to state with certainty things that did and didn't exist.

[@braedondavies9592]

Notice that Tapir doesn't account for the "impossible" events involving Moses and Elijah--he/she just changes the subject w/ a classic Red Herring. In reality, he has no good counter-argument. By his logic: The Greek deities must be real because we have archaeological evidence of the their ancient civilizations and the Trojan wars. From a "scientific" point of view, what's the difference between the Bible and Greek mythology?

[@andreaweloth2657]

Your son interrupting the video was everything 😍😍😍😍

[@kerstinklenovsky239]

Thank you for all the time you have been investing in this labour of love. God bless you and your family.

[@matthoward2825]

Thank you so much for taking time to do this video.. I'm hoping the LDS missionaries that are trying "convert" me will watch it with me. By the way your son is cute 😊

[@itsmejessie]

Thank you! The missionaries are not allowed to read/watch anything that's "anti-Mormon." They're not even allowed to read the church's own history in The Journal of Discources. They have an "approved reading list" while on their mission and their phones only allow them to go to lds.org for answers. It's absolute mind control! Because of this, I would screenshot things and text it to them along with all my "questions" back when we were meeting with them. But you can most definitely talk with them about anything and breaking down the MANY problems of Mormonism is important. Specifically when it comes to who God is. I have a video on the "god" of Mormonism vs. the God of the Bible: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iJubaKJtiryCmMU Anyway, I'm thrilled that you are meeting with them! I'll pray for you!

[@itsmejessie]

Thanks so much!! 😊 I'll pray for your meetings.

[@matthoward2825]

Meeting with them tomorrow (Monday) Just to encourage you too, a couple of your videos were shared on a Facebook LDS - Christian Discussion group. More of the same if you get the time. Many thanks again...

[@itsmejessie]

@@matthoward2825 wow, which group is it? Do you know the name? Thanks for letting me know. 🙂

[@matthoward2825]

The group is called.. LDS and non lsd Christian Discussion Group, join it..

[@richlopez5896]

Joseph Smith As A Monotheist There are three major stages in the development of Joseph Smith’s doctrine of Deity. The earliest stage is represented by the Book of Mormon (1830), the Book of Moses (1830-31), and the Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible (1833). Many passages from these early works of Joseph Smith reveal his belief in monotheism. Here are a few of the numerous examples: Book of Mormon, Alma 11:26-28 “And Zeezrom said unto him: Thou sayest there is a true and living God. And Amulek said: Yea, there is a true and living God. Now Zeezrom said: Is there more than one God? And he answered, No.” The Book of Mormon ‘Testimony of the Three Witnesses’ Preface: “And honor be to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Ghost, which is one God. Amen.” Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible Isaiah 44:6,8 (left unchanged): “Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer, the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.” The Book of Moses, Moses 1:6: “And I have a work for thee, Moses, my son; and thou art in the similitude of my Only Begotten; and mine Only Begotten is and shall be the Savior, for he is full of grace and truth; but there is no God beside me, and all things are present with me, for I know them all.” Now many Mormons have tried their best to harmonize and rationalize the monotheistic passages in the Book of Mormon with Joseph’s later teaching of the plurality of Gods, by saying while there are many Gods, “there is only one God with whom we have to do, or whom we worship”. But in light of the JST version of Isaiah 44:8 (“Is there a God beside me? yea, There is no God; I know not any”) and a number of other passages like Isaiah 43:10-11; 45:21-22; 46:9, it’s hard to argue this position. Joseph Smith as a “Binitarian” In 1834-35, during the Kirtland, Ohio period, Joseph Smith made a major departure from the Book of Mormon emphasis on the Father and Son as the same person. While still apparently maintaining there is only one God (monotheism), he began to teach there are two persons within the Godhead - the Father and the Son. Theologians call this “binitarianism.” This second stage in Joseph’s teaching regarding Deity is found in the Doctrine and Covenants “Lectures on Faith”: Lectures on Faith, Lecture Five: There are two personages who constitute the great, matchless, governing and supreme power over all things - by whom all things were created and made . . . They are the Father and the Son: The Father being a personage of spirit, glory and power: possessing all perfection and fullness: The Son, who was in the bosom of the Father, a personage of tabernacle, made and fashioned like unto man. Lectures on Faith, Lecture Five (question and answer section) Q. How many personages are there in the Godhead? A. Two: the Father and the Son. According to the Lectures on Faith, the Holy Ghost, or Holy Spirit (the two terms were not distinguished at this stage), is not a person, but is the shared ‘mind’ of the Father and Son. Joseph Smith As A Polytheist The Book of Abraham, first published in 1842, represents the fourth and final stage of Joseph Smith’s developing doctrine of Deity. Here, for the first time, Joseph spells out in no uncertain terms the doctrine of the plurality of Gods: Book of Abraham 4:2-3 “And the earth, after it was formed, was empty and desolate . . . and the Spirit of the Gods was brooding upon the face of the waters. And they (the Gods) said: Let there be light.” Expressions such as “the Gods called,” “the Gods ordered,” and “the Gods prepared” occur 45 times in Abraham 4-5. And directly related to the doctrine of the plurality of Gods is Joseph’s teaching that Heavenly Father is an exalted man who Himself has a Father, and whose Father has a Father, ad infinitum. In a June 16, 1844 sermon recorded in the History of the Church, Joseph described this new understanding that there are many Gods and that Heavenly Father is Himself the offspring of a more ancient Deity: Joseph Smith’s King Follet Discourse (History of the Church, vol. 6) “I want to reason a little on this subject (that God himself has a father). I learned it by translating the (Book of Abraham) papyrus that is now in my house. I learned a testimony concerning Abraham, and he reasoned concerning the God of heaven . . . If Abraham reasoned thus - If Jesus Christ was the Son of God, and John discovered that God the Father of Jesus Christ had a Father, you may suppose that He had a Father also.”

[@witharebelyell2762]

You list many, many subjects in this video. I think each and every point should have it's own video, more exploring each falsehood and why it's false. Thanks for your videos!

[@peterbasco2493]

I want to Thank you, Jessie for sharing your experience and in depth research in LDS-Mormanism. Like, you I was visited by a pair of Mormon missionary who wanted to be referred as LDS elders of their church. I already knew enough about their religion to ask them questions about their beliefs and they either said they couldn't give me an answer or acted like they believed in the same Trinity and Jesus and means of Salvation. They started becoming defense and were quick to leave. We shook hands and these brought me to do my own in depth reasearch, which brought me to your channel. Keep contending for the faith.

[@binren3984]

Another thing that is out of place in the BoM is in Nephi written that many plain and precious things were left out of the Bible. Question : How could the Nephites know that ? How is that even possible there was no Bible during their life. This is one of the reasons the BoM is a 19th century book Peace

[@rickyodom8189]

they had all the records of the old testment

[@nini8868]

​@@rickyodom8189Doesn't Nephi take place around the time of the destruction of the first temple in Jerusalem? How then would they have any old testament records past that event? They hadn't been written yet.

[@hxplxss1835]

The Bible as a cohesive work really would not see a formalized canon of sorts until the 4th century and that canon is different even then from that of Joseph Smith, who would use the canon that only became the norm after the Protestant reformation.

[@thelthrythquezada8397]

Can you say that again? I read it 2x but I don't understand. I will keep rereading it tho.

[@tracytomlinson3409]

Title: "I'm a born-again Christian who likes to critique other Christian sects that don't fall in line with my doctrine". The CES letter is authored by disgruntled Mormons who have an axe to grind. It comprises unreliable (unverifiable) third party source material, which purposefully portrays Mormon teachings out of context. Mormons, who feel guilty about wanting to renege on their moral commitments, use the CES Letter as a rationale to leave the church, because in reality they've adopted a “worldly-overview”, and the distortion of the CES allows them to “sin” without actually owning their decisions - if they can blame the church. Cognizant dissonance is patently sanctimonious, but that is the disingenuous world we live in. John Dehlin’s immature behavior sets the tone for his kabuki theatre, where departing Mormons lament over the grief of losing their close knit community, while framing their new morality as freedom from the cult. He became a Mormon critic after adopting feminist concepts that encourage an acceptance of sex outside of marriage and homo-sexuality, which by any constraint mocks the Christian Bible teachings and embodies the Anti-Christ, Anti-Family challenge of our time. Dehlin portrayed his disdain for Bible teachings through a doctrine of criticizing the leadership for not allowing women and the LBGTQ members to hold key administration and teaching positions in the church. When Dehlin was unceremoniously excommunicated for his condemnation of the Churches’ refusal to adopt his secular reforms, he became yet another enemy of Mormonism in its righteous endeavor to restore the family culture.

[@alannahmay3823]

I did not use the CES letter or John Dehlin when I did my deep research on the LDS church. I was very, very careful of all of my sources. I left the LDS church, but I am still a strongly commited Christian who follows the values of the Bible. I have never done homosexuality, pre-marital sex, or adultery. My husband is Christian with me. Not everyone who leaves the LDS church "liberates" themselves into sexual freedom.

[@scottbrewton2214]

Mongoloid is a scientific term. People can make it derogatory, but that is only in context. Mountain lion and leopards have existed in North America. Great video! It would be helpful if in the description, if you listed the verse locations for each of the points. I'm going to use your information as a tool to witness to them when they come around.

[@nerdnul]

Another great video Jess; thanks so much for these truths. My LDS friends have lively discussions with me over them.

[@view2be]

Where’s the other video?

[@michaelsauro3409]

What gets me the missionaries always want to say that the Book of Mormon is the most perfect book, well if it's so perfect why has it's been changed many many many times. They can never answer that question.

[@dlariby]

It's the most CORRECT book. The 1828 Websters dictionary also has different definitions of the word "correct." Use the correct one and you get the correct meaning of that statement.

[@lovelystuff1562]

@@dlariby so correct, doesn't actually mean correct lol......riiiiiiiight.

[@dlariby]

@@lovelystuff1562 That's correct...I mean, words have different meanings, and even change meaning over time, as people change it, so reading scripture and words of prophets is insufficient without the help of inspiration.

[@UTarcher72]

It's the most true and "corrected" book. There. Fixed it for you.

[@AntonydenDulk]

There are various corrections: - Printer's errors - Modernization of spelling - Correction of grammar (this is a bit controversial since seemingly the original shows a correlation to Hebrew better) - Political Correctness (e.g. white to pure to make the book less offensive to the darker races) - And at least one correction of the person identified as speaking which may have been an error introduced by Mormon rather than Joseph Smith. If you want something as close to what Joseph translated then you can check out the work of Royal Skousen or look at scriptures.info I would say the version released by the LDS is good enough for most purposes and you can generally get a hard-copy free via the missionaries. Most changes have very little to no effect doctrinally, some changes correct the doctrine and others *arguably* take away from it. Considering the actual changes in the Book of Mormon text, I would argue that it is at best a weak argument if any argument at all.

[@adammore2653]

When are we going to go excavate the ruins of Zarahemla? I've got my shovel!

[@henkaistudio]

That place doesn’t exist because it’s made up.

[@Someone-fc9io]

Save your energy......Zarahemia doesn't exist

[@tahoeman191]

Such an interesting video and your delivery is amazing. Entertaining as well.

[@messengerofhope31]

Ground penetrating radar has shown the hill cammorah to be nothing but a typical NY hill; no caves, nothing.

[@messengerofhope31]

@@cdowis Sorry wrong. Joe Smith himself referred to the NY hill as the very one. Shift some more mormon.

[@lovelystuff1562]

@@cdowis That would be most Mormon scholars right? There's not a single non Mormon scholar that would do anything but laugh at the fake history of the mormon Hill Cumorah.

[@lovelystuff1562]

@@cdowis Non LDS scholars obviously wouldn't waste their time reading fairytales. That's how you can seperate a true scholar v an LDS apologist. Anyway, why doesn't the Prophet simply ask God where the BoM took place and then surely they'd be able to find some of the swords, breastplates etc?

[@randyjordan5521]

@@cdowis No, Charlie, most scholars agree that the Hill Cumorah is fiction.

[@randyjordan5521]

@@lovelystuff1562Many non-LDS scholars have read the BOM enough to know it's fiction.

[@DaveBartosiewicz]

Hi Jesse, keep it up. I have had my video ministry for 7 years. You have the look and the passion to do well. If you need any help, let me know. Blessings.

[@itsmejessie]

Hi Dave! I'm familiar with your videos and have seen many in my quest to learn more Mormon topics and facts. I'm really glad you came across my video! If you have any advice at all on how to get my videos in front of more Mormon eyes, I'd be thrilled to hear it. Thanks for your comment and for watching!

[@DaveBartosiewicz]

@@itsmejessie The first question is "were you a Mormon?"

[@DaveBartosiewicz]

@@itsmejessie You can friend me on facebook, we can talk on messenger. I have a lot of ideas to help.

[@itsmejessie]

@@DaveBartosiewicz Nope! I'm a born again Christian and was never Mormon. I have known Mormons throughout my life and currently have MANY neighbors and friends who are Mormon. My husband and I met with Mormon missionaries for months in late 2018 until their leader wouldn't allow them to return after she met us and realized that we were the ones doing the converting. So that sparked my passion to share the fallacies of Mormonism and to witness to the Mormon people so that they might come to know the true Gospel of Christ and the true God of Biblical Christianity.

[@itsmejessie]

@@DaveBartosiewicz I sent you a FB message! Thanks.

[@stevehess10000]

I love how this girl just seems to know EVERYTHING!!!! She knows that there is no timber in that area 2,000 years ago, no reformed Egyptian, the exact locations of the Book of Mormon and their geography 2,000 years ago. AMAZING! She also knows how humans behave when their heads are chopped off without relating any information or personal experience as to how she knows that! A logical thinking human being would realize they don’t know everything especially without personal experience or having done their own research.

[@stevehess10000]

@tapir rider I disagree - one can "know" certain things based on the evidence presented to them combined with the manifestation of the Holy Ghost. That is how I "know" that the Book of Mormon is true and is the word of God.

[@stevehess10000]

@tapir rider Obviously you've done little research there is much evidence to support it. A scientific study found that the likelihood Joseph Smith wrote the book of mormon is like a quintililion to one. In other words - there is no way he wrote it himself. In fact - I believe the first number is far larger than that one.

[@rayma66]

@@stevehess10000 Why not? There are plenty of authors who wrote their own books. Besides, he didn't write most of it. He plagiarized it from many many sources.

[@dc8617]

@@stevehess10000 When a Mormon says Holy Ghost, God, Jesus, Satan, Heavenly Father, Salvation, Heaven or Hell, it is NOT the same as Biblical Christianity. I am a student of the University of Israel. Our Hebrew Bible is not only to be read like you read the book of Mormon. Biblical Hebrew has 22 letters, each letter has a meaning, each letter has also a numerical value which also has a meaning. God codified the Bible, there are hidden codes, there are also many hidden messages. Biblical Hebrew is like no other language in the World! There are over 5000 handwritten historical copies of the Books of the The Bible with a 99.6% accuracy. Not other Historical document comes close. Not the 'Gaelic Wars of Caesar' nor 'Homers Iliad'. When the early Bible was being copied they followed the precise code of what God Gave.....If the Book of Mormon was given by God then it would reflect God's signature. It does not.....

[@larrypatterson948]

HI Jessie. I understand and hurt for you. I have been fortunate to have the Holy Ghost personally come to me and my stake president Devey while reading 1st Nephi chapter 13. This Holy Ghost let me know He and the God head supports the Book of Mormon. And it is in my best interest to believe even though all you say may be the truth. President Devey told me that very few members ever experience what we did. This has been the most important event in my life to have this Holy Ghost personally come to us. Sorry for you!

[@slvrsrfr92]

shiz was full of shiz. lol i just recently found your channel I haven't been active in 16 years but found my own self and freedom and peace. Thanks for your videos even though this is 3 years old now it is still relevant for a lot of people.

[@renaewhalen5476]

Thankyou dear Jessie, that was fantastic, filled with great information, as always, presented fairly and gently. My family is well educated, highly intelligent and creative. They should be able to see right through the con which Joseph Smith and the current Mormon church is. All but one brother and l are still completely taken in by the mind control. They cannot even talk about it, answer a simple question, and think me contentious for asking anything about it. I am at a loss, yet have such a burden on my heart for their salvation. I love them so dearly. Thankyou again for your sweet calm voice. P.S.Your little one is so cute. Loved how you beamed at him. Thanks for sharing that. What was the link to your church. Also, great news, l was married to a beautiful Christian man in our Church Feb.2. Was so beautiful and Christ centered. No family there as l am being shunned by some. Missed them deeply. Keeping heart open. Will keep working to rebuild. Blessing in Christ Jesus to you and Yours🙏💖

[@itsmejessie]

I have so much I want to say in reply and will write more later but I wanted to leave the link to my church's website real quick since you asked: bravechurch.co The most recent sermon series on 1 John has been absolutely fantastic!! And congrats on your wedding! How wonderful! 😊

[@andrewreed4216]

So you're well educated family mocked Joseph Smith for believing elephants were in the America's?..... Yet at least 4 species have been found to date and carvings on Implements have been found as far South as Ecuador and they were only calved in the last 2000 years.... How did your well educated family miss that?

[@johneasler9967]

Thanks for your great work!

[@scotnick59]

Thank-you for these truths: had a hard time believing the - well, - B.S. for so long!

[@danblackwelder5995]

Lehi and Nephi (presumably fictional characters), claim to have lived at Jerusalem their whole lives and are aware of the happenings. Yet they are completely unaware of the great captivity of the Jewish people by Nebuchadnezzar which just occurred before Zedekiah was placed on the throne.

[@robertrosskopf4641]

Really? Where do they mention not being aware of it?

[@toddgiberson4330]

Not too long ago I refuted several of the points made in this video, and Jessie indicated she would do more research. She never could substantiate her claims in response. But I see now that my comments have been deleted. Can you help find my comments Jessie or are they gone? As I remember, Jessie had said something about olives not being grown in the Americas and I pointed out that the Book of Mormon never claims olives were grown in the Americas. Jessie also made a statement about how "swine" would never have been used by "Jews," but the Book of Mormon never associates swine with Jews or anyone of Abrahamic descent. I made other comments as well but they are all removed as far as I can tell.

[@itsmejessie]

Just now seeing this. How many of these false accusations did you leave under this video? I never removed that comment thread. It's still here! I am making a few edits in the video description section today! Please stop spreading lies.

[@JGraye5]

There were horses in North America but they died out around the ice age. A fossilized skeleton was discovered in Utah not long ago and a lot of misinformed Mormons thought it was proof that TBoM is true. Modern “domestic” horses were imported later. It is correct that there weren’t any horses here during the time mentioned in that book.

[@robertrlkatz6890]

Can't figure it out why it would have been found in Utah?

[@susannamoliski]

I find it fascinating that so many people haven’t seen through the impossibility of this new religion. Joseph Smith was a smart con artist. His vivid imagination sprouted an entire community to follow his beliefs. I’m a devout Roman Catholic and I’ve always found it fascinating that you really don’t want to see the broader concept and the evidence of the perfect hoax. I’m sure there’s comfort living your life with blinders on. As a Catholic it really bothers me how the Mormon church defines themselves as Christian, yet denying the Holy Trinity and the most important part of them all: Jesus’ suffering and death on the cross and his glorious resurrection. That God is, not a person, but an existence in everything. But that God lives on a planet far far away, keeps a wife and is scornful of tea-drinkers? I mean, really?

[@fayelewis5476]

Do you know for sure if you died today where you would spend eternity?

[@harveyharveyness8773]

It would take extraordinary faith to believe what they believe

[@alannahmay3823]

I have been visiting my local Catholic parish and reading the Early Church Fathers. So far, I really like Catholicism.

[@robertrlkatz6890]

@@fayelewis5476 Most important question in the World and I notice you did not get a response. I know what it would have been and it is so sad. I am so thankful that I know for sure I WILL be in Heaven because Jesus died for me and now He is waiting to receive me into His Home. I do not have to worry about have I done enough because Jesus finished the work on the Cross.

[@robertrlkatz6890]

@@alannahmay3823 But you cannot say that you know of a certain that you will be in Heaven when you die. The Bible is very clear that we better know before we die, it is not left up to a guess so or a maybe or a hope so.

[@protochris]

As an LDS member, these problems are obvious and show the BoM to be a 19th century work, however, divine providence puts us in the church and there we'll remain. BTW, the words church and synagogue were in used in the OT. Church simply means assembly, and synagogue means a gathering place. The English translations don't bring out the words. This is a repeated mistake of Mormon critics.

[@conchitacasiano3623]

I love your information. Bless you and your family. 😁

[@samhunt9380]

I think Joseph Smith is closer to Shakespeare than God.....

[@toddgiberson4330]

As I remember, after Jessie admitted that she could have things wrong, my entire thread was removed yet the video is the same as before, with the same errors.

[@itsmejessie]

That thread is not removed! Let's be honest, shall we? I'm actually reading through it again to remember the things that we discussed. I am on here today making some edits in my video description section. If you're going to comment, don't make false accusations against me.

[@kathleenwindasgoodwin9165]

Thank you for your knowledge with us. I love seeing your son. He’s absolutely beautiful

[@walkonking]

Good video, one thing though "Dogs" did exist in pre Columbia america. They were there when Cortes landed and both the Spanish and Aztecs ate dogs. Dogs are well documented in the Americas before Columbus.

[@bonjovi2792]

There were a lot of things in this that weren't actually right, most related to that logic. I wish she would research these more. She also seems confused about where things take place.

[@thelthrythquezada8397]

23:09 Sis. Jessie over here trying hard not to laugh, it's making me want to laugh.

[@dleoburns]

Jessie: The Bible teaches that Abram (later Abraham) lived in Egypt for a time. Genesis 12:10 ¶ "And there was a famine in the land: and Abram went down into Egypt to sojourn there; for the famine was grievous in the land." That occurred after the confounding of languages. Genesis 11:7 "Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another’s speech." So, Abram learned Egyptian and was capable of communicating with the Pharaoh. Israel and Egypt share a common border. Book of Mormon/Mormon 9:32 "And now, behold, we have written this record according to our knowledge, in the characters which are called among us the reformed Egyptian, being handed down and altered by us, according to our manner of speech. 33 And if our plates had been sufficiently large we should have written in Hebrew; but the Hebrew hath been altered by us also; and if we could have written in Hebrew, behold, ye would have had no imperfection in our record." The people of the Book of Mormon knew both Hebrew and Egyptian but both had been altered "according to our manner of speech." You should also remember that the children of Israel was held captive in Egypt before Moses led them out of Egypt. They certainly knew the language of Egypt. Ezekiel 20:5 ¶ "And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; In the day when I chose Israel, and lifted up mine hand unto the seed of the house of Jacob, and made myself known unto them in the land of Egypt, when I lifted up mine hand unto them, saying, I am the Lord your God; 6 In the day that I lifted up mine hand unto them, to bring them forth of the land of Egypt into a land that I had espied for them, flowing with milk and honey, which is the glory of all lands:" Are we going to dispute with the Lord God of Israel that he didn't supply Israel a "promised land" with milk and honey? So, is the Bible wrong? "The Sinai Peninsula or simply Sinai (now usually /ˈsaɪnaɪ/ SY-ny, also /ˈsaɪniaɪ/ SY-nee-eye and US: /ˈsaɪneɪaɪ/ SY-nay-eye)[1][2][3] is a peninsula in Egypt, and the only part of the country located in Asia." [Wikipedia/Sinai Peninsula] We can't be sure what type of animal life was here when the Book of Mormon people arrived. Anti-Mormon people used to really like the scripture about elephant but we've discovered Mammoth remains which is pretty close to the elephant. Your calculations do not take Continental Drift into consideration. The distance across the ocean might have been less than present. Genesis 1:9 ¶ "And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so. Genesis 10:25 "And unto Eber were born two sons: the name of one was Peleg; for in his days was the earth divided; and his brother’s name was Joktan. " The division of the earth may accout for all those animals being here in the Americas. The culture and history the Nephites was strongly affected by war, earthquakes and severe storms. Indians are mongoloid? "Mongoloid (/ˈmɒŋ.ɡə.lɔɪd/) is a grouping of various peoples indigenous to Asia, North America, South America, and the Pacific Islands (with some exceptions). It is one of the outdated three races proposed by Georges Cuvier in the 18th century, the other two groups being Caucasoid and Negroid." [Wikipedia/Mongoloid People]. Members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints do not consider the Nephites to have been Jews. They were of the Israelite Tribe of Manasseh. Alma 10:3 "And Aminadi was a descendant of Nephi, who was the son of Lehi, who came out of the land of Jerusalem, who was a descendant of Manasseh, who was the son of Joseph who was sold into Egypt by the hands of his brethren." The Jews are descendants of the tribes of Judah and Benjamin. This classification is outdated Jessie.

[@hopeinchrist9412]

You probably have more intelligence then anyone else here in the comment section. Nice job.

[@dleoburns]

@@hopeinchrist9412 : Thanks.

[@toddgiberson4330]

I recommend everyone read Mike Murphy's comment below. The scholarship in the video is so shallow in places not even Aesop's Fox could lap it up with any satisfaction. There are so many examples, but consider Jessie (in the video) mentioning both olives and butter. Of olives she says "they did not exist in America back then." Then of butter, she says "...there are no milk producing animals, so how are you going to get butter?" But the trouble is, NOWHERE IN THE BOOK OF MORMON are olives or butter described as being in the Americas! So what are Jessie and her researchers even talking about?

[@mipiace2504]

Not an intellectually honest response

[@toddgiberson4330]

@@mipiace2504, you are welcome to demonstrate support for Jessie's claims if you wish. Jessie says that although someone else did the research, she looked up the Book of Mormon references herself to make sure they were right. But she missed these and others. The Book of Mormon does not attribute olives or butter to the New World. Also, she later speaks of the armor of warriors -- decked out from head to toe even mentioning helmets, and more specifically metal helmets. Yet helmets are not ever mentioned in the Book of Mormon. So what is going on? Why is she making up things that are not there? Rather than just say my response was not "intellectually honest," you should show where she is right and I am wrong, or disclaim your comment.

[@toddgiberson4330]

By the way, the Book of Mormon does mention head-plates but not helmets. Since 'helmet' is a word commonly used in the KJV Bible, and since the word 'helmet' was known to be in English usage from the middle English of the 1400s, I am guessing that the head-plates differed somewhat from what would be considered helmets. For a mention of head-plates, along with a description preceding of a 'shield to protect their heads' see in the Book of Mormon Alma 43 beginning in verse 19.

[@ShineBrightly]

Todd Giberson Mormonism = proven liars of their own history = false gospel, false prophet, and false Jesus. Mormons ignore the very proof God provides for them right in front of their face. Like mana from heaven and they won’t eat, or Moses’s serpent staff, and they refuse to look. So so so sad. Jesus is lord God NOT Satan’s Brother ... wake up!! For the Mormon church to actually be honest ... they should stop stealing the Jesus from the Bible and call their church what it legitimately should be called : “The Church of Satan’s Brother of latter-day Satan’s brothers and sisters”. That way the world would know who the entity Mormons truly believe in ... which is a false Jesus prophesied in the Bible to be taught and deceive even the very elect. That name should not offend any Mormon anywhere because it is in perfect harmony with Mormon doctrine !! Please read my true story at truthspm.org God Bless :) .

[@itsmejessie]

Jacob 5.. olives 2 Nephi 17.. butter

[@jumpropestairs6129]

When God gave the tablets to Joseph, God spoke in old KJV for the first time...

[@andrewreed4216]

??? You mean GOD spoke to Joseph and Joesph wrote what he spoke in the language of his day. Please know the difference.... If someone in China sees GOD will he use old English or mandarin? Your thought is flawed, think deeper.

[@baberoot1998]

Bahahahahaha!!!! Very good point.

[@baberoot1998]

@@andrewreed4216 Seriously? The KJV was written in the early 17th century. Joseph Smith was from the early 19th century. You call 200 years difference..."spoke in the language of his day?" Lol.

[@jumpropestairs6129]

People should have seen the fraud when it arrived in Anerica, in KJV

[@jumpropestairs6129]

@@andrewreed4216 Ask Huck Finn, the language of the day was not kjv you Moronism

[@ritchieehrlich6294]

I would also like to mention that I spent 6 years in Utah living in the heart of Provo learning first hand about what you've made very clear! I had to leave! I was put on a list and pushed out of Utah. Believe it or, not? Thank you for your videos! Yes! Your awesome! Thank you!

[@TheShodan92]

I've left the church now for 2 years and my skin is getting whiter.

[@itsmejessie]

Well, there you go. Hope you're feeling delightsome and never loathsome! 😆

[@longnamenocansayy]

i started out out white and delightsome. after being out of the church for over 30 years i'm starting to glow in the dark.

[@greggsutton3363]

😂👍

[@tyler2mor]

13:00 - I'm wearing headphones at my desk listing to your video and I swore my 10-month-old son was on the floor behind me babbling at me (who should be downstairs, not in my closed office). I stop and look around at an empty room. Then I realize the child babbling is coming from the video. hahah. Got me good!

[@wilburwilson1034]

I experienced the same thing LOL

[@prayingpatriot8018]

Also: BofM "jesus" is a destroyer~3 Nephi 9:1-12 & D&C 132:26 & 56. Yet, the true Lord Christ of the Gospel (Bible) is a forgiver of sins, Savior, & offers eternal life thru Him (1 Cor. 15:1-4). BofM "jesus" is a different Jesus. BTW, I'm a Native American not an "Indian" unless you apply American before "Indian", given the rapid social demographic changes. (i.e. which "Indian" are you referring to?) We are not "Mongoloid" Dictionary: #2 A reference to a person having Down's Syndrome (derogatory term). This analogy is synonymous to calling white people "Neanderthals". That's not being "politically correct" either.

[@itsmejessie]

Yes, I touch on the god of Mormonism being completely different than the God of the Bible in one of my other videos. Sorry to have offended you. I am, of course, talking about Native Americans (American Indians) in this video. My brother in law is also Native American so please believe me when I say I meant zero disrespect. (And I have never heard Down Syndrome linked to this term until now.) I was going off the terms and research done by Rauni Higley, former LDS. My intention is to reach the Mormons with the truth of their belief system and also the truth of the Bible. I will be more careful in my terms and what I say in the future. Thanks for watching and commenting.

[@prayingpatriot8018]

@@itsmejessie: No problem. Just wanted to add my 2 cents. I'm an ex-Mormon myself.

[@prayingpatriot8018]

@@itsmejessie: You might be interested in subscribing to Kristi Smith channel usually titled "LDS2BOC" or EXMORMON. He makes some excellent points. He doesn't have that many subscribers but I found his channel quite helpful.

[@grandpaje4734]

You don't read the rest of Chapter 9, in 3 Nephi. Verses 12 to 22. I bet that's your style. The same thing with 1 Cor 15. Just like all of you who misunderstood the Bible. You just pick scriptures to your covenience against Mormons. For example, you are using Eph 2;8-9 we are saved by grace alone, but you don't read the whole chspter 2. Also most "christians" think that Joseph Smith created "other gospel" by using Galatian 1:8-9, but you don't read the rest, at least you will read the whole concept in vs 10-12 so you will understand the real meaning of another gospel refers by Paul. What worst, you don't even believe and even disrespect Joseph Smith as the Prophet by using The Book if Mormon and other of his writing, dont you think that's an act as hypocrites?

[@sandybosleyrvresortgod2577]

@@grandpaje4734 a thus is the issue I have with most religion that divides people in a exclusionary way. That is non members or members. I couldn't enjoy imagining Jesus saying that. Not in that way. Or saying to my granny she wasn't a member and didn't pay enough money. I couldnt injoy imagine Jesus Christ speaking about worthiness bases on money. Actually Jesus never said that . I think he didn't. Then again I ain't Jesus yet. I'm just trying to love people and hope the people live me.

[@andrewstuart759]

> The "swine" were used to dispose of all the bodies. Mormon LDS had a lot of those, that they needed to 'disappear'. Swine were very useful for that very specific purpose.

[@yaruqadishi8326]

But they don't exist till after 1600 near brought by colonizers

[@justinmasterson4611]

This woman is gorgeous and smart

[@itsmejessie]

Well thank you. Thanks for watching!

[@hopeinchrist9412]

I can agree with you on the gorgeous part but smart? If you think that she is smart than you must have an IQ of about 78.

[@justinmasterson4611]

You're just mad that she's talking bad about the LDS Church get up-to-date that's an old video

[@hopeinchrist9412]

@@justinmasterson4611 Nope! Not mad at all. In fact listening to her has strengthened my testimony. Such ignorant arguments gives greater credibility of The Book of Mormon.

[@3DFLYLOW]

@@hopeinchrist9412 You testify to know something is true when you quite clearly don't. Move along.

[@lukemichal7867]

The testimony of JS mother is pretty amazing. I didn't know that she had written those things down. So often, from the missionaires I get the story that JS was illiterate, humble, and not educated enough to make up such a story. His mom didn't think so......

[@robertrosskopf4641]

Joseph Smith's mother absolutely believed he was a prophet of God, and she saw the interpreters that Joseph recovered from the stone box.

[@certainlyitis]

There is a favorite podcast among the exmormon populace called "How To Build a Transoceanic Vessel" by John Larsen. If you haven't listened it's well worth the time. Fair warning though, John has been known to throw a cuss word out now and again, so if that offends your senses don't listen, but it is very informative. johnlarsen.org/mormon-expression/ episode 276 I'm loving your videos. I love hearing "nevermos" point out all the crazy that it took many of us decades to notice, or at least vocalize if we did notice them. :)

[@joshscritchfield693]

I love how you actually have proof that the Book of Mormon is fake most other channels just say that it is I needed proof to help my dad learn he was in a false doctrine

[@saurasenascorgan1319]

Thank you for posting. One of the most absurd things about the Book of Mormon is how it records King James Version translation errors (sometimes verbatim). For example, Isaiah 50:11 was copied almost verbatim from the 1769 KJV (see: 2 Nephi 7:11). The issue here is with the KJV's translation of the Hebrew word ziqah as "with sparks." "That compass yourselves about with sparks - Lit. as R.V., that gird yourselves about with firebrands." - Cambridge Bible for Schools & Colleges "With sparks; or rather, with firebrands, as this word is fitly rendered, Proverbs 26:18, which is better than sparks or flames, which is put in the margin, because firebrands only, and not sparks or flames, are capable of being thrown by one man at another." - Matthew Poole's Commentary Here is a look at how the English of this verse developed: Wycliffe "with flawmes" Coverdale "with the flame" Great Bible "stere vp the coales" Geneva Bible "with sparkes" Bishops Bible "stirre vp the coales" DRB "with flames" 1611 KJV "with sparks" 1769 KJV "with sparks" * BOM "with sparks" As one can see the rendering "with sparks" was introduced to this verse by the GNV. It was then carried over to the KJV and copied by Smith into his book. Most modern Bible versions translate the word as "with firebrands" (although some have "torches"). When considering the English development of this verse, it should be obvious where Smith obtained the words for 2 Nephi 7:11 from. This is not an isolated incident as there are many other verses in the Book of Mormon that contain 1769 KJV translation mistakes. Are we to believe that ancient plates contained 17th century translation mistakes? Are we to believe that even with the Urim & Thummim, the seer stone, and "the gift and power of God" that Smith still couldn't get the translation right? Another absurdity in the Book of Mormon is that it contains words that are not correct and have no support in the Hebrew. For example, Isaiah 14:19 was copied into the BOM with some modification (see: 2 Nephi 24:19). For some reason Smith decided to change the word "raiment" to "remnant." Although these words looks similar in English they look very different in Hebrew. lebush = raiment sheerith = remnant When commenting on 2 Nephi 24:19, IRR.ORG states: "this could have been a scribal hearing mistake, but the evidence of P and the 1830 edition is somewhat against it and should be allowed to stand." Of course there are no ancient MSS that agree with the Book rendering "remnant". In fact that Qumran Isaiah scroll confirms the KJV's translation. There are some other examples of Smith changing KJV words to homonyms, which suggests his reliance on an English source and not translating from an ancient document.

[@GaryKColeman]

In the July/August 2018 edition of "Biblical Archaeology Review" on page 33, is an article "Egyptian Papyrus Sheds New Light on Jewish History." The author is Karel van der Toorn. The article is about a papyrus roll (P. Amherst 63) discovered in the late 19th century at Luxor (ancient Thebes). It took more than 120 years to decipher the text. It was discovered that Egyptian Demotic script had been used to write Aramaic text! The translation turned out to include three Israelite psalms written about 400BC. This is an example of "reformed Egyptian" used by Israelites and discovered by non-Mormons!!

[@ShineBrightly]

Gary K Coleman Mormonism = proven liars of their own history = false gospel, false prophet, and false Jesus. Mormons ignore the very proof God provides for them right in front of their face. Like mana from heaven and they won’t eat, or Moses’s serpent staff, and they refuse to look. So so so sad. Jesus is lord God NOT Satan’s Brother ... wake up!! For the Mormon church to actually be honest ... they should stop stealing the Jesus from the Bible and call their church what it legitimately should be called : “The Church of Satan’s Brother of latter-day Satan’s brothers and sisters”. That way the world would know who the entity Mormons truly believe in ... which is a false Jesus prophesied in the Bible to be taught and deceive even the very elect. That name should not offend any Mormon anywhere because it is in perfect harmony with Mormon doctrine !! Please read my true story at truthspm.org God Bless :) .

[@alannahmay3823]

Demotic is not Reformed Egyptian. Ask Robert Ritner.

[@KSASTAMPS]

You should be aware that the same line of reasoning you are using here to disprove the BOM is the exact line of reasoning used with fatal precision by Atheists to destroy the validity of the Bible.

[@itsmejessie]

Except the Bible has overwhelming amounts of historical and archeological evidence. The Book of Mormon not only has NONE, but it also speaks of things that simply did not exist at that time. Loads of problems.

[@pauldunn7000]

I love this one. 2 NEPHI 5:15] And I did teach my people to build buildings, and to work in all manner of WOOD, and of IRON, and of COPPER, and of BRASS, and of STEEL, and of GOLD, and of SILVER, and of precious ORES, which were in 《GREAT ABUNDANCE》. THAT IS A-LOT. [16] And I, Nephi, did build a TEMPLE; and I did construct it after the manner of the temple of SOLOMON SAVE it were not built of so MANY PREVIOUS things; FOR THEY WERE《 NOT》 to BE 《FOUND UPON THE LAND,》 ☆ WERE IN 《GREAT ABUNDANCE》. ☆ WERE《 NOT》 to BE 《FOUND UPON THE LAND,》 ☆ THEY WERE THERE IN 《GREAT ABUNDANCE》BUT 《《 HIDING. 》》 YOU CAN'T FIND ME, WOOD, IRON, COPPER, BRASS, STEEL, GOLD, SILVER, precious ORES, THEY ARE SO SNEAKY THEY ARE.

[@lovelystuff1562]

@@cdowis Yes, presumably by imaginary people, trading imaginary metals.

[@andrewreed4216]

Wood comes from trees.... There are lots of trees in the America's. All the other minerals can be found there, or how did they make all those ancient artefacts in North and South America?

[@pauldunn7000]

@@andrewreed4216 2 nephi 5:15 IN GREATabundance 2 nephi 5:16 NOT to be FOUND UPON the land. Do you have a book of Mormon?

[@thinkaboutit3175]

My favorite is Doctrine and Covenants section 132 v 38-39 tells us that God gave David his wives and concubines and it was not sinful. Then the Book of Mormon Jacob chapter 2 v 24 says that David had many wives and concubines and God saw it as an abomination. Both can't be true Deuteronomy chapter 18 v 20-22 tells us what a false prophet is. That lets us know he is a false prophet.

[@harveyharveyness8773]

@@thinkaboutit3175 It's like close-up magic now you see it now you don't

[@michaelmiller1600]

Jessie, despite the criticism, you did quite well. Don't be discouraged. You are a good communicator. You made your point, as did B.H. Roberts, Mormon apostle and historian, that the Book of Mormon was a fabrication produced by the vivid imagination of Joseph Smith. As you mentioned, one of Joseph's fatal flaws was that he included a list of artifacts from his own cultural background which were not in the ancient American native's background and should not have been in a book about the ancient inhabitants of this continent. But Jessie, sweetie, Christianity is also a dream based religion. Jesus, has all the characteristics of a paranoid schizophrenic. And could have been gay. He chooses is first four disciples from his naked buddies on the fishing boat, none of which showed any interest in women. Regardless, the teachings of Jesus --- love, forgiveness, equality --- are important principles.

[@itsmejessie]

Thank you! I'm not discouraged. People can say whatever they want. And I did make a couple mistakes and that's okay. Point is to get people thinking and researching for themselves! To cling to one mistake and ignore the abundance of other issues is just foolish and willing ignorance.

[@andrewreed4216]

@@itsmejessie Jessie you are a good communicator, i can see you have alot to give.... but please think about LUKE 9:50 first. You should be promoting your own faith, not tearing down another.... that's such an immature mistake.

[@rayma66]

The disciples were all married, except for Paul.

[@jamesvanduker]

It's Me Jessie please be honest, you made more than one or two mistakes, and you left out a lot of important context, and valid counterarguments. It is not intellectually honest to "start people talking" based on false and misleading information, and not even acknowledge the other side of the argument. I respect intellectual rigor, even when it disagrees with me, buy what you posted here is intellectual laziness. You appear to have done almost nothing other than regurgitate old, outdated anti-Mormon literature.

[@longnamenocansayy]

mormons want to ridicule because you said journal of disclosure? ask one mormon if they read any speach in the volume. not one 1,000 mormons has read one speach contained in the j./dis.. it's not important to them. the speeches are unimportant to them. the standard works are totally unimportant to them. not 1 in 1,000 mormons have read the standard works. not 1 in 10,000 have read the bible or the book of mormon. but they.......(no words i just have no words..........) if they ever did read their own books, and read their own history, there would be such a mass exodus it would suck the funny underwear off parley p pratt in his grave.

[@larrypatterson948]

Hi Jessie: I truly understand how you feel! I prayed and asked of God for over 30 years before He sent the Holy Ghost to me while reading first Nephi chapter 13. To be able to feel the merging of the Holy Ghost spirit, with yours, within your own body is a most wonderful experience! I cherish it above all, the greatest experience of my life. I don't know why God took so long to send this Holy Ghost to me as stated in Moroni :10-4. I could of easily have fallen away as you and many others have done! I would then be in the same predicament as you are. Why He did not choose a lovely person such as you, and many others, I do not understand. God finally sending the Holy Ghost to me, has been the most important event in my life. Meant everything to me! I understand how you feel, I hurt for you and others! I can understand how you feel, for there are over a hundred good and justified reasons for you to believe so. But a member of the God Head, the Holy Ghost, has let me know he supports this Book of Mormon. Something I cannot deny. I find giving my testimony to non believers has little if any effect on their line of thinking! But this testimony is the most important item I can leave to my children and grandchildren. I pray that if you try again as stated in Moroni :10-4 that God will send this Holy Ghost unto you. But is took over 30 years before God finally answered those prayers for me. I don't understand why God is so stingy with this Holy Ghost! But I am an ignorant old man! But very very thankful, appreciative and grateful to God and the Holy Ghost, and many others, for I am nothing important!

[@Robinfuckable]

@Larry wow Larry maybe that's where your suppose to be . God told me that Jesus is the Christ I can't deny. The Bible is the best scripture that I can have peace I love the New Testament. I knew Jesus is our Lord God . He did all for us Christ is my Arthedos

[@larrypatterson948]

I love the New Testament also,

[@Robinfuckable]

@Larry I understand your commitment to the BoM. And I thank you for your testimony of faith.. But what about a Muslim that prayed and received a testimony that the Quran is the book of God ? Or a Hindu I had a supernatural long time ago I Know Jesus is the Christ and this World is Evil. I know the BoM is Fiction I know the Book of Abraham Fiction I don't believe in Mormon Theology But we all can worship the way we want. God bless and Peace

[@larrypatterson948]

I dont know the answer

[@SaraSmilesandCreates]

The Holy Spirit will Not affirm a false doctrine. That wasn’t the Holy Spirit you felt mending with yours.. that was a deceiving spirit.

[@luizsilva9991]

The level of criticism in this video is so basic and has been answered over and over so many times. Jessie clearly did not do her homework, but merely copied and pasted arguments that most researchers get bored at hearing these days.

[@luizsilva9991]

@Vox Populi this is precisely the type of silly criticism I am talking about. Apocalypse says "do not add to this book". The issue with your interpretation is: 1. Apocalipse was not the last book to be written. It was only compiled as the last. 2. The bible was compiled in one book hundreds of years after it was written. So when it said "do not add to this book" it could not be talking about the whole bible because it did not exist as one big book at the time. 3. Deuteronomy says the same thing Apocalypse said. Using this logic nothing after deuteronomy would be valid. Again, 90% of what Jessie is saying are arguments as silly as this one you offered. It does not prove the Book of mormon false. It only shows the low intellectual level of the criticism and person behind it.

[@luizsilva9991]

@Vox Populi Both books (deuteronomy and Revelations) states this and at the time, both were separate volume of scriptures. What that indicates is that these verses were not meant to be read as "do not add" to the Bible, but to these books individually. The Bible does not reference Joseph Smith nor the Book of Mormon, nor it has to. No Old Testament book references Jesus Christ by name, does that mean Jesus was a false prophet? Obviously it will not mention Joseph Smith, because he was born almost 2 thousand years after the bible was written. What is possible, however, is to find parallels between the Bible and the book of Mormon. Remember the book claims it was written in America, by different people. It does not need to be referenced in the bible. No one needs the book of Mormon to be saved, because Jesus atonement provided the way by which everyone can be saved. However, if the Book of Mormon is true, then rejecting it ultimately means rejecting the God who sent it. So, in that sense, no one can ultimately be exalted and at the same time reject God's scripture, whether be the Book of Mormon of the Bible. Again, what sometimes seems to be an obvious mistake are often a misconception and misrepresentation of what things really are. Take care

[@TammyGrosso]

I grew up with a very close friend who was Mormon. Her family was one of the most kindest, supportive, "godly" people I ever met. I went to her church and youth group many times. She even came to mine (Baptist) a few times. I remember doubting my faith, and learning about Mormonism. But then, one summer youth trip changed all of that. We went to Penn State for a youth retreat. One of the days we they offered us a chance to attend different workshops on how to defend and witness to people. One of these was about Mormonism, JW's and other cults. I learned so much! But compared to your info, it just hit the surface. I have been binge watching your videos. And I wish I had this info back then. I would have witness to her, if I had. Her and her family, along with many others in the Mormon church , would have been awesome Christian's, if they only knew the TRUTH! And what is sad is that her mother died a few yrs ago, from Breast Cancer. I can only hope and pray that she Confessed, and turned to the TRUTH, before she passed. It hurts my heart to think that I may never see her in heaven again. Thank you again for posting these video!

[@Johnathan909309]

How do their own people not pick up on this junk?!?!?

[@slippy720]

It's indoctrination and compartmentalization. When you grow up that way it's all you know and you are taught not to question but rely on "the spirit" for your evidence of truth. They instill fear of Any "anti mormon" or any non-mormon info. It's kinda terrifying once you figure out your whole life was a lie.

[@JE58-rbi]

Thank you, Jessie, for including the list of Book of Mormon problems and mistakes not included in your video!

[@zyzzyz7035]

Not only was Joe a liar, it sounds like he was sniffing ether.

[@caseystevens5739]

What’s your motive for these videos?

[@deerjerkydave]

The errors in this video are horrendous! The Book of Mormon does not say they spoke Egyptian. It says they wrote using reformed Egyptian because of its compact style. She says reformed Egyptian doesn't exist but clearly doesn't know what she is talking about. Reformed languages are everywhere and yes even reformed versions of Egyptian exist such as Demotic Egyptian. She says you can't have fruit or bees in the Sinai desert. And yet, if you look carefully at the Saudi Arabian peninsula there is one location that is an oasis to the desert where fruit, ore, timber, and wild bees are found...precisely where the Book of Mormon says you would find it. She also conflates wild honey with domesticated bees. And I'm only 1 minute into this video!

[@fayelewis5476]

When you worship an 'exalted man' from another planet, you are an idolater and will not get into the kingdom. It doesn't matter if the Book of Mormon is true or not. God used to be a man on another planet, (Mormon Doctrine, p. 321; Joseph Smith, Times and Seasons, vol. 5, p. 613-614; Orson Pratt, Journal of Discourses, vol. 2, p. 345; Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, vol. 7, p. 333). “The Father has a body of flesh and bones as tangible as man’s . . . ” (D&C 130:22). God is in the form of a man, (Joseph Smith, Journal of Discourses, vol. 6, p. 3). “God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens!!! . . . We have imagined that God was God from all eternity. I will refute that idea and take away the veil, so that you may see,” (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 345). Revelation 21:8 8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

[@fayelewis5476]

In the end, whatever the witnesses saw or claimed to have seen through a vision doesn't matter, because none could read Reformed Egyptian, so none could verify that Joseph's Book of Mormon is an accurate translation.

[@MGBetts1]

When Joseph Smith went to school he didn't do very well at Geography. Doh!

[@paulplumb6360]

His geography was so bad he included a place he called Nahom where Ishmael was buried and the land Bountiful when the Nephites ended their journey from the desert. A place where there was suppose to be all kinds of fruit and vegetables and animals. A real paradise on earth. He wrote that, of course, in 1829 or 30 and people in his day laughed at how stupid he was to include that in the Book of Mormon. Funny thing is, Nahom exists and it has an ancient burial ground and the paradise of Bountiful was found sometime after 1920 in Oman on the coast. It is now a resort at Salalah, Oman.

[@derekanderson4940]

awesome you make it so funny nice video jessie👍

[@deskjockie4948]

Look into the book, "The Late War" as another inspiration for Joseph's writing of the Book of Mormon. It was well known in the public schools of his day, and the syntax and wording are very similar to the BoM.

[@itsmejessie]

Yes, I mention this in my CES letter video! Thanks for the help! :)

[@jerryobrien]

Hello. I have a question about an older video of yours that speaks to a court case . Fraud. What ever happened I asked google. All I see is that it was changes to be about tithing. It seems to me that I'm missing something. Can you help me on this please. Thank you so much

[@jaredcassikent7934]

Do you realize that Joseph Smith would be excommunicated in the LDS church today. You should look at the difference of how the church Joseph Smith founded vs the church in our time.

[@fayelewis5476]

That is also true of Jehovah's Witnesses. Up until 1954 they promoted the worship of Jesus Christ.

[@alexchavez3244]

Facts.

[@TheBugbugboy]

your son is adorable, book of mormon was given to me and immediately realized it was made up

[@kylebraby2357]

All of these things are actually pretty good evidence that Joseph is a real prophet of God. If he was someone trying to pull off a great scheme why try to be so specific about things he knew nothing about? Things that "can easily disprove" the Book of Mormon. If he was just a clever guy who was trying to make up one of the greatest books ever translated in history he would of been general about details and not try to make giant bold statements that could/would be questioned. Shows his confidence and that he was just translating what was written on the plates.

[@hopeinchrist9412]

I totally agree. Especially since most of the historical claims made by the Book of Mormon were considered ridiculous at the time the book came out. People laughed at it's claims back then too. But over time many of them have been proven true. Jessie doesn't realize it but many of the things mentioned in the video actually have been found. The list of anti Mormon arguments of what hasn't been found is getting smaller and smaller with time. If Joseph Smith was a con man he would have described a civilization that would have made more sense to the science of his time.

[@hopeinchrist9412]

@Bronze Nope! He was a true prophet of God. I know that to be true. Regardless of what anyone else might say about it.

[@mothermovementa]

Ex-Mormon here. It's all just lies and lies.

[@itsmejessie]

Mormonism or what I'm saying?

[@virginiabicchierri5261]

Explain Manna form the Bible! How is that possible? Here are a lot of things that seem to be not possibile but nothing is impossible for the Lord!

[@Johnrider1234]

Did you know the Vatican just signed a huge agreement with the Mormon leadership

[@andrewreed4216]

What agreement?

[@alannahmay3823]

If this is true, I would like to learn more.

[@edselman6378]

MORMONISM HAS MORE HOLES IN IT THEN SWISS CHEESE

[@paulbrungardt9823]

Joe Smith was a con man ? " I am shocked, shocked, I tell you." --(Quote from movie Casa Blanca)

[@andrewreed4216]

This is a sad attempt at trying to discredit something without understanding... you've lost me on your 1st point alone..... (iv'e decided to revise this to help you further) 1st REFORMED EGYPTIAN.... there are 3 reformed Egyptian languages that have been found to date, the first can be found on the Rosetta stone (if you know what that is), which helped in the translation of the Egyptian hieroglyphs. (a priestly reformed Egyptian language exists also) 2nd BIBLICAL INTERACTION WITH EGYPT.... ABRAHAM spoke to Pharaoh in his day... did Pharaoh speak a minor regional language like Hebrew? (which was only still developing) or did he speak a form of Egyptian? MOSES was raised an Egyptian.... what language did he speak?.... JESUS even went to Egypt as a child, is Egypt so bad? Did he speak Egyptian with his childhood friends?.... or maybe Greek at this time? The Egyptians are descendants of the bible... does NOAH's descendants ring a bell? Egypt, Egypt, Egypt was important to Israel. 3rd HONEY BEES..... bees have existed for a very long time all over the world in there many forms, (Australia has a native bee that looks like a fly, but Europeans didn't bring that here). the desert location in the book of Mormon was referring to a part of what is now modern day 'OMAN' on the Arabian peninsula where both bees and wood for building ships can be found as it still gets hit with the Indian ocean monsoons on that little bit of the peninsula. 4th OTHER RIVERS (Lamen/Lemuel).... what's now called a 'Wadi's' in Arabic can flow on a continued basis. the one in the Book of Mormon was from along the Saudi Arabian Peninsula. But a study into ancient river systems of the region can show that there have been other 'greater rivers' in past time that have now stopped flowing and have been covered by deserts... have you heard of climate change? what about the Indus valley civilization of India and the other great river that use to flow there? (and what constituted a 'river' to Lehi? here in Australia we say 'river', but some of them don't flow for decades). 5th WHEAT, BARLEY and OLIVES in the AMERICA'S....... most of these haven't YET been found, HOWEVER.... and the first thing you should know that grains come from grasses that ARE found all of the world....secondly 'BARLEY' varieties have been found in PRE-COLOMBIAN America. Near Phoenix, Arizona 'HOHOKAM' archaeological site an ancient 'BARLEY' was used. (also other sites in Central and South America).... as for the animals more are being discovered including 'ELEPHANTS' (there own genus), including a pygmy elephant found as far south as Mexico (and i don't mean mammoths). 'ELEPHANT engravings were found on spears even in 'ECUADOR' in South America (Crespi 'GOLD' Plates), also Yalloch, Guatamala. 6th SWINE...... Jews may have NOT EATEN them (at least the devout ones), but their skins etc... were useful and used.... why do you think NOAH was told to put 'UNCLEAN' animals as well as "CLEAN' animals onto the ark? because they were useful to man. 7th BOOK OF ETHER.... snakes killing sheep, and Jews eating sheep....... are you serious? the people of Ether DID NOT descend for the JEWS... of coarse is was OK from them to eat.... you do know only one of the tribes of Israel are Jews? and only one of the many of Abraham's descendants were for Israel (Jacob)? there were ALOT of other groups.... 8th CHICKEN's..... LOOK at far South America and the chicken that laid blue speckled eggs....same as in the pacific islands (a trade route of ancient kingdoms...)...... you 'Butter' comment is way off...... many animals can be used to do that...from buffalo in North America to Llamas in South America...... this is getting boring, so ill leave you with the following.... good on ya for trying, but please, please, don't criticize what you don't know. Joseph Smith wasn't perfect, but nether was any other besides Christ.... have you read the full story of Jonah? Moses wasn't allowed into the promised land of Israel? Simon Peter even knowing Christ denied him?....... but the book of Mormon however should be studied and not just read from a western Greco-Roman thought process. Please learn, study, pray, and then comment, not just rely on what you perceive as logic. Thankyou

[@lovelystuff1562]

Andrew Reed states... the desert location in the book of Mormon was referring to a part of what is now modern day 'OMAN Wow....can you please give a scrap of evidence from either the Mormon standard works, or a Mormon Prophet or Apostle to back that wild statement up please? I will take the precaution of not holding my breath while you search your sources.

[@rncondie]

Jessie, I find joy in my life and love for my fellow man when I try to follow the Savior’s teachings in the Bible and The Book of Mormon. You can’t fake joy. It is a gift from God bestowed upon true believers and when I am trying to abide by the teachings found in the Bible and The Book of Mormon I have an increased love toward my brothers and sisters throughout this world. When I forget to REMEMBER the Savior and distance myself from daily prayer and pondering Gods teachings in the scriptures that gift to love others like unto myself is taken until I repent and get back to remembering and trying to live not just believe what Jesus Christ taught us. If you have been hurt or misunderstood by someone in the LDS Church, I am sorry for your pain. I promise you the atonement of Jesus Christ can make you free from whatever is troubling your soul. Sincerely, Russ

[@alannahmay3823]

The Book of Mormon is mere inspirational fiction. For scripture, turn to the Bible.

[@phenylalanine1042]

put the bible to the same scrutiny and it falls apart just as readily. How can someone switch from LDS to Christianity? out of the frying pan into the fire

[@andrewreed4216]

There's only two ways to know if anything is true in the past. 1. Archeolgical evidence (not just any, but absolute, as people and time can disintegrate evidence) 2. A confirming 'clear' personal witness (but even this can be misinterpreted by some of the recipients if not understood properly)

[@phenylalanine1042]

Would you like to know the about all the historical inaccuracies archaeologists have found in the bible? Noah's Ark the parting of the Red Sea, the whole exodus story, the city of Jericho had no walls, on and on - see freethoughtnation.com/prehistoric-find-disproves-bible/@@andrewreed4216

[@cameron9643]

This lady seems smart. Like Homer Simpson type smart. She didn’t know that the word “mongoloid” was a derogatory word.

[@cameron9643]

@tapir rider I would agree normally but she’s holding herself out as a teacher and expert on the matter. If I want to be objective and learn then It really isn’t straining of gnats. You would never hear a real expert make that king of mistake.

[@shawnbradford2243]

What an excellent example of Jesus you show in your comments!

[@shawnbradford2243]

Ready Joe king of mistake? Hmmmm guess your not an expert either since you made that KIND of mistake! Guess now you have to admit Mormonism is false since you made that KIND of mistake 😂😂😂😂

[@nicolelovesjesusgod7673]

She is smart. She has all The FACTS . Are you not understanding what she says is proven? Or are you the Homer?

[@kylebraby2357]

As fine as solomons temple does not mean same size at all... seems like you just have a consistent pattern of misinterpretation of the wording and stories.

[@hopeinchrist9412]

Exactly! But all anti Mormons are like that. They misinterpret everything. But, that is only one of many things she has gotten wrong.

[@specialk7715]

Papa Pump Really.. Well than you wouldn’t mind explaining everything for us would you?? Also include the book of Abraham too! It really does all sound like nothing more than just fairy tales with NO evidence whatsoever!!

[@hopeinchrist9412]

@@specialk7715 Wrong! It's not a fairy tale and it does have a lot of evidence to it. And I will be happy to explain it to you. However I don't have the time right now, But I promise I will get back to you soon.

[@hopeinchrist9412]

@@specialk7715 Several decades ago, Heber J Grant who was one of our Prophets and Presidents of the church had an acquaintance who came up to him and showed him a scripture out of the Book of Mormon in the 3rd chapter of Heleman where it mentions cement. He tried to argue with the prophet telling him he was a fool for believing in the book because no where in ancient America was cement ever found or discovered. Everyone knows that the American Indians never used cement, he said. Grant slammed is hand down on the table and said that doesn't effect my faith one bit. If my children's generation does not find it then my grandchildren's generation will. Not long after that the city of Teotihuacan was discovered and Heber J Grants prediction turned out to be true. Not only was cement found but both the geographic location and the timeline matched as well. One person put their faith in science while the other put his faith in the BoM. And the one who put his faith in the BoM was the one who was correct. Over the course of the next several decades Anti Mormons laughed and scorned us because the BoM mentions fortifications. And yet no fortifications were ever found. Until we got to the latter part of the 20th century all the LDS people could come back with is we have our faith that they existed. And of course we would be called stupid for believing it because if they would have existed then they would have already been found. So they thought. But, then they were discovered and as archaeologist learned of the nature of them they found not only did they exist but that they were actually common both throughout the Mayan region and also the Hopwell Mound builders. They even matched the descriptions given in the BoM such as digging trenches around the cities and using the dirt to build mounds with wooden walls on top of the mounds about the height of a man. They also matched the timelines in the BoM. Are you seeing a pattern yet? Let me give you one more example. Jessie mentions in her video about a place in the Arabian Peninsula the BoM referred to as the land of Bountiful. A place with bees, timber, mountains, ore, fresh water,.and a cliff. Anti Mormons had a lot of fun with this one because no such place exist or could exist through out the Arabian Peninsula because it was all desert. All the way up until the 21st century LDS scholars had no answer for this. So naturally the anti Mormons all laughed and used this as what they saw was indisputable proof that Joseph Smith made the whole book up. And we dumb Mormons were just too stupid to see that this was not possible. And yet it was. Because such a place was actually discovered in the early 21st century. And all of the goodies mentioned in the BoM were all in just the right place. It is funny that Jessie mentioned this place because she was obviously going off of outdated anti Mormon literature because smart anti Mormons won't even dare try using this argument anymore. I could give you a list of many more things that archaeology was wrong on that later was proven otherwise in favor of the BoM. But my message is too long already. The point is that the evidence is getting stronger and stronger with time. And the list of arguments that the anti's are using against the BoM is slowly disappearing.

[@jazicrimson]

I love your videos! You're awesome!

[@edselman6378]

It's all a fairy tale

[@iomegastud]

I believe it reads, "the manner of the construction was like unto the temple of Solomon; and the workmanship thereof was exceedingly fine."

[@paulhawkins779]

GEE Thanks YOU ARE SO SMART bet you feel better knowing you let us know you are smart.

[@TheBugbugboy]

'like unto' meaning 'not even close', 'exceedingly fine' mess you've made?

[@jaredfaye4169]

Again thankyou for confirming that the lds gospel is true,by all your ANTI MORMON videos... remember people are not perfect, but the gospel of Jesus Christ is perfect.... enormous OPPOSITION of the church confirms my point....god bless

[@jamesmccluskey9175]

As a member of the church explain to me would you please why the ceremonial earthworks along with the Hopewell Indian mounds are located in the lower parts of Ohio & Indiana? One last thing: Why would a Native American Chief have a 4,000-year-old Ass… We can't forget Nephi's vision of Columbus and the pilgrim's sentiment here in America prior to 1492!

[@aaronbindrup]

You are crazy beautiful 😉

[@greggsutton3363]

Great video nicely done ✅👍 !

[@lesliebee8918]

I enjoyed listening to your presentation. Nice work Jessie. I was curious how you became interested in the Mormons but couldn't find any information about you in your "About" section. Hoping the Lord will bless your ministry.

[@itsmejessie]

Oh, thanks so much! I need to fill out that section! 😄 I just dove right into this channel in December after getting inspired to share the Gospel with the Mormon people. My husband and I met with missionaries for 4 months straight and would have met longer but got shut down by the missionary president who realized that we were the ones doing the converting. Besides the missionaries, we live in a community with many Mormons.. lots of friends and neighbors! The more I learned about the belief system, the more concerned I have become for their souls because they teach a completely different "gospel" and a different god than the true God of the Bible. And then when you become familiar with the horrific history that is so packed full of lies and deception, you can't help but to tell the world what you know. Well, I'm speaking for myself here. 😊 I just want the Mormons to see the Satanic influence over a religion that they believe is the "one true church." My prayer is that they find freedom and peace in coming to know Jesus Christ as their personal Savior and see that the Gospel message of the Bible is the real message that saves and transforms lives. Thanks for watching and for the encouragement. ❤

[@lesliebee8918]

Thank you! It is a special blessing to share the Good News with those raised to believe the Mormon 'gospel' which isn't good news at all. I posted your video to our Ex-Mormons For Jesus page on Facebook. Love your heart for the lost. Going to subscribe to your channel and watch the other videos when I have time.

[@itsmejessie]

@@lesliebee8918 thank you so much! I actually JUST liked that page yesterday when I came across it. How cool that you found me one day later! God is good. Thanks for sharing my video! Means a lot.

[@lesliebee8918]

It's Me Jessie Wasn’t that was serendipitous! ❤️❤️

[@katbos4995]

It's Me Jessie: When I read the Bible in context, in full. Not in sections like they do in LDS high school seminary or in adult Sunday school. I learned that the Bible and LDS church contradict each other. I left after 40 years in the church.

[@jn3005]

All good points. Are you doing the Bible next. Wish you would. So many crazy claims there...

[@itsmejessie]

Which claims make the Bible impossible? Miracles? The thing is, the Old Testament contains hundreds of prophesies that were written and recorded hundreds to thousands of years before their fulfillment. The New Testament was written thousands of years later where those prophesies were fulfilled to exact detail. Unbelievable accuracy. And they were also prophesies that went against anything man would have predicted. For example, the Jewish people crucifying their own Messiah.. the Gospel being dispersed to the Gentiles as well as the Jews.. when you examine the Biblical prophesies alone, you find a book that is of Divine origin, or in other words, written by God. It's impossible for man to predict such claims perfectly, one after the next, thousands of years apart. I encourage you to start there. Those who set out to honestly and intellectually disprove the Bible often end up coming to saving faith in Jesus Christ. Lee Strobel, Alister McGrath, J Warner Wallace, to name a few brilliant former Atheists now born again Christians. When people claim that the Bible is false and full of inconsistencies, the responsibility then lies on your shoulders to prove that claim. If two books (the old and new Testaments) self-authenticate one another through prophesy, you have a pretty huge problem... how do you disprove that? The entire world accepts that Jesus was a man who lived, as recorded in history. The rejection of Him as God is another story. And yet Jesus was the fulfillment of the entire history of mankind up until his life. Everything pointed to Him. Even our calendar system is centered around the life of Jesus Christ, BC and AD. There's a reason for this. He's essential to everything. Good luck in your studies! I pray that you are *open* to truth. Usually the close-minded Atheists today are simply content to fight against a God they claim doesn't exist and never actually weigh the evidence and seek out truth. I am not here to change your mind. I'm here to point you in the right direction and to get you thinking. Thanks for watching and commenting!

[@jn3005]

@@itsmejessie There is the creation of the first parents Adam and Eve. It's completely insulting to women the way Eve was created as a second thought to make Adam more comfortable and brought about out of a piece of his originally created man Adam. why would they not be created at the same time? Is this the type of misogynist God you want to worship? Noah and his life saving ark....I have seen the life size version in Kentucky but there is some real faith in miracles there right? Also for me the whole account of Job sounds completely made up. In what scenario does God take baiting conversations with Satan? How exactly do they communicate? Are they face to face or do they send messengers? Where in the account, just to prove a point (the loyalty and devotion of Job) God destroys (or allows the destruction) the lives of Jobs family his business and everything he loved, even his own health, literally! How do All kinds of situations in the scriptures where the physical and psychological truths that we understand in today's society are challenged. Which prophet was it that had sex with his daughters in law. Even while drunken, in today's society that would bring outrage. The point is the same, that we all practice a high degree of faith in what is known to be true. That we practice acceptance of things that might not make sense now...or rather that we don't understand now, are applied to both the Bible and the Book of Mormon. Yes there are many inconsistencies, in both histories. I think we have so many shared beliefs. That salvation comes by grace through Faith in Jesus Christ. It is simply a shame that we don't just build relationships on those beliefs. I wouldn't describe myself as atheist but I can wholly respect one who seeks to prove all truth as they accept truth when found. I have many friends of all faiths across the whole spectrum. I hope you wont endeavor to make a series of videos to disprove Buddhism, Judaism, Islam, Sikh, but also wonder why you wouldn't take that opportunity to get that "low hanging fruit". It seems that convincing one of the existence of a loving God and Savior Jesus Christ would be more productive especially since the populations of those communities is so much larger than the LDS community. What is it about the LDS community that drives you to disprove the beliefs and not the beliefs of Islam or the others?

[@longnamenocansayy]

@@jn3005 the first 5 books of the bible were written to establish the law and establish the need for the law. it should be read in context, that means in context of the law and need for the law. that means don't read the the law expecting to find the constitution of the national organization of women. read the law expecting to find solutions for our sin nature, and how we can have communication with god. the law says adam sinned and passed on his sin nature to all mankind. adam sinned knowingly. eve sinned unknowingly. if we say, eve is the subject of sin and that eve brought sin into the world, we have to ask where did eve come from? if we are wise, we read the bible in context. the context of the bible is sin, man's sin nature, and how we can get right with the one true god. we see that sin is the great topic of the torah. there are only two ways to sin, knowing and unknowingly. both types of sin are dealt with in the torah. god cannot look upon sin with the least degree of tolerance. the bible tells how we can communicate with god, even though our sin natures.

[@thelthrythquezada8397]

It's not ridiculous if you think of it this way. Manasseh and his brother DID speak Egyptian (which is why I think Joseph chose Manasseh) BUT AIN'T NO WAAAAAYYYYY they spoke any of it in 600 B.C. My parents were born and raised in Dominican Rep. they speak Spanish, my sisters and I were born here. We Speak both Eng and Spn. both my sisters have kids who don't speak it so much. By the time they have kids, none of them will know how to speak it, that was only with-in 3 generations. Imagine the 300+ from Jacob getting to Egypt to the time of Moses, then Moses to "about" 600 bc... That was the first thing I thought of when I cracked that book open last week.

[@Timothy4186]

Your son is absolutely adorable!

[@elizabethann8228]

Ephesians 2:8,9 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast. No one can work their way to God . Baptism doesn’t save a person. The Bible says our works are as filthy rags. ( rags: what women would wear during their menstrual period) Baptism is a picture of what happens in a Believer when he or she accepts Jesus as Lord and Savior, believing He is who he said he is, and that his blood, shed on the cross, is FULL PAYMENT of all ( ALL!!!! ) of our sins. When Jesus died he said “ it is finished “. His reason for coming to earth was complete. He paid for all sins. If we believe and confess that Jesus IS Lord, we turn from our wicked ways and walk in obedience out of love for God, as the Holy Spirit ( who then lives inside of us ) guides us. There is nothing we can DO to get to God!! No actions can add or take away from what Jesus already has done. If you try to “ be good “ to get to Heaven, you need to know that is false teaching. Lots of people have “ good deeds” yet don’t believe Jesus. Jesus is the ONLY way to Heaven.He is the WAY, the TRUTH, and the LIFE!! That’s the Gospel. It’s the best news EVER! The Truth will set you free!! ❤️

[@ritchieehrlich6294]

I think you're great! Thank you!

[@johnthompson2256]

Jessie- Regarding writing in a form of Egyptian in Israel and Judah in the 7th and 8th centuries comes this from Philip J. King and Lawrence E. Stager, Life in Biblical Israel (Louisville, KY: Westminster John Knox Press, 2001), 311: "Documents from the kingdoms of both Israel and Judah, but not the neighboring kingdoms, of the eighth and seventh centuries contain Egyptian hieratic signs (cursive hieroglyphic) and numerals that had ceased to be used in Egypt after the tenth century. Orly Goldwater states: "The fact that the hieratic numerals appear in both Israel and Judah points to an earlier date of adaption, probably the age of David and Solomon." Note this is from Westminster John Knox Press, a book publisher in Louisville, Kentucky and is part of Presbyterian Publishing Corporation, the publishing arm of the Louisville, Kentucky-based Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.). No affiliation to the LDS. The passage referred to speaks of Nephi writing using “the learning of the Jews and the language of the Egyptians,” and Moroni later describes this as “reformed Egyptian” (Mormon 9:32-34). At the time the family would have left Jerusalem there would have been among the educated those who would have been able to communicate with their major neighbor and at times ally the Egyptians. For your consideration.

[@shawnbradford2243]

So all the bom people wrote in reformed Egyptian for everything? Edit: and the characters are Egyptian or Hebrew, or some combination?

[@johnthompson2256]

@@shawnbradford2243 I do not have an answer for you on whether there was a single system or more than 1 system. On the second point the reference is to reformed Egyptian which could be a cursive form, or still something else. The point that was made in the presentation was that the Jews spoke and wrote in Hebrew which Israel, the northern kingdom, and Judah, the southern kingdom, in the 10th and 9th centuries used Hieratic signs, a form of Egyptian. On a separate matter the presenter made the strong statement that honey bees were not introduced until introduced by the Europeans. Yet, it is known that the Mayans cultivated honey with a different insect, the Melipona beechi, and not the European Honey Bee, apis mellifera. This is similar to the use of the word sycamore in the New Testament. The tree that Zacchaeus is a ficus sycomorus, of the fig family, and not an acer pseudoplatanus, or Sycamore Maple. I present this for information and as a counter to what I consider to be misinformation. God bless.

[@shawnbradford2243]

@@johnthompson2256 so reformed Egyptian is a real language that was used by the ancient inhabitants of America or did they use Hebrew or Egyptian?

[@johnthompson2256]

@@shawnbradford2243 Mr. Bradford. The point I made is in response to Jessie's comment, that, " writing in Egyptian is ridiculous." As a non-LDS reference points out that in Jerusalem itself in the 7th and 8th centuries hieratic, a form of cursive Egyptian, was used. So it isn't ridiculous that but in fact shows the use of a non-Hebraic writing system in Judah and Israel. I do not know that Hieratic is "reformed Egyptian." I do know that Jessie's statement is incorrect that the people of Israel/Judea did not use a form of Egyptian writing as examples exist. Shalom Aleichem.

[@shawnbradford2243]

@@johnthompson2256 hieratic or demotic Egyptian do not match anything to do with reformed Egyptian and do not support the claims of Joseph in any way. So the ancient inhabitants of America would have written in reformed Egyptian?

[@artifacthunter1472]

Why don’t they understand this fairytale is not real??? I no longer go to the LSD CHURCH!!