Jonathan Pie: Having a pop at Brexit and Tory voters is 'gross' | ITV News

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Mocking Brexit and Tory voters is "gross", says Jonathan Pie actor Tom Walker - and a whole generation of comedians might soon have to find other things to joke about.
The comedian, whose career has grown with 14 years of Tory governments, admits much of his success has been down to Conservative chaos but accepts it's likely he'll soon have to turn on Keir Starmer.
Jonathan Pie is a satirical news correspondent who found success for his "off-air" moments in which the reporter rants about politics apparently without realising the camera is still rolling.
Pie's creator Walker, who is currently giving the Tories what could be his final kicking in a stage tour, spoke to ITV News about the future of UK politics, comedy and satire.
Jonathan Pie: Heroes & Villains is at The Duke of York's Theatre until Saturday, April 27.
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@rrbh
@rrbh Ай бұрын
I don't watch Pie for fun or light-hearted giggle sessions - his rants are generally how I am feeling , so I rage along with every word.
@Godonstilts
@Godonstilts Ай бұрын
They are more than just comedic rants, they are straight to the heart cutting observations of the sheer absudity of what our so called 'leaders' are doing, along with their bare faced corruption. No wonder Pie is angry, Tom is likely just as angry but holding back for this interview.
@Mike-un5hy
@Mike-un5hy Ай бұрын
He makes MSN seem like a parody in which it is compared to Pies rants of truth
@PassiveAgressive319
@PassiveAgressive319 Ай бұрын
Me too. He just gets it
@amrobinson6124
@amrobinson6124 Ай бұрын
@rrbh I feel the same. I call it 'second-hand catharsis'.
@niceguyjohnny
@niceguyjohnny Ай бұрын
100% agree
@tasty_fish
@tasty_fish Ай бұрын
Walker's skill is that he's able to identify failings and hypocrisy on all political colours. It's just the Tories have given him bucketloads of material to work with. I'm sure whoever gets into power will not be treated any differently.
@millrace32
@millrace32 Ай бұрын
i think he probably just trawls web comments & repackages what 'we' are saying, then sells it back to us
@johncannon3411
@johncannon3411 Ай бұрын
nonsense
@mobsiesixsixsix9785
@mobsiesixsixsix9785 Ай бұрын
@@johncannon3411 That word doesn't mean what you think it does.
@jonathanstewart7838
@jonathanstewart7838 Ай бұрын
I'm sure whoever gets into power will not be treated any differently. Well they will be treated differently and it makes it harder to do so, but the corruption ineptitude and the intellectual vacuity of these Tories is not something we have seen for a 100 years.
@mobsiesixsixsix9785
@mobsiesixsixsix9785 Ай бұрын
@@jonathanstewart7838 Sadly it's directed by profit and that's all USA based. You can't have power in any country unless the USA agrees to it first. It's getting worse because everything is getting worse. Really, don't expect to much from Labour either. We saw what happened when there was an actual leftwinger, he was smeared to within an inch of his life just for asking for reasonable things. Neo Liberalism doesn't disappear with the tories.
@miketgl4543
@miketgl4543 Ай бұрын
This man has become the voice of a frustrated, unheard, and tired generation.
@Le4befar
@Le4befar Ай бұрын
49% of a tired generation
@garybarry9365
@garybarry9365 Ай бұрын
He's the voice of whiney, virtue signalling city dwellers that have no idea about the real world.
@terryfinch9319
@terryfinch9319 Ай бұрын
No 99%
@Le4befar
@Le4befar Ай бұрын
@terryfinch9319 reality and maths missing from your reply.
@PitchPerfectDesign
@PitchPerfectDesign Ай бұрын
the voice of half a frustrated, unheard and tired generation.
@breakfreak3181
@breakfreak3181 Ай бұрын
He may see his character as satire, but in truth, it is *spot on* political observation. He may be playing for laughs, but all too often, Jonathan Pie sums up what is *really* going on and *exactly* how I feel.
@YourMom-mt9ld
@YourMom-mt9ld 22 күн бұрын
I mean not to be that person but, that is satire.
@halo5725
@halo5725 7 күн бұрын
I think he is great, but I don't laugh and it isn't funny. It is too grim and too accurate to be amusing.
@Lumibear.
@Lumibear. Ай бұрын
Well that was one of the best interviews of Tom on Pie that I’ve seen in a long time. Normally the ‘interviewer’ takes a snobby stance that makes the whole thing just a defence of existence, but this guy actually allowed Tom to talk. Nice.
@phily8093
@phily8093 Ай бұрын
Surely you can't be snobby when in possession of a trailer park mullet?
@Lumibear.
@Lumibear. Ай бұрын
@@phily8093 well maybe that’s the solution eh? All we need is the entire news team of Channel 4 and the BBC to all get mullets!
@phily8093
@phily8093 Ай бұрын
@@Lumibear. It's no doubt happening as we speak
@Lumibear.
@Lumibear. Ай бұрын
@@phily8093 Can’t wait to see it! XD
@skasteve6528
@skasteve6528 Ай бұрын
Sadly, I think that if Labour win the next election, Tom will not suffer from a lack of material.
@mr_b_hhc
@mr_b_hhc 7 күн бұрын
They are politicians, the statement that they will mess up is like saying gravity pulls things down. Not the astute observation you think, perhaps?
@dog_chasing_cars7576
@dog_chasing_cars7576 3 күн бұрын
if he stops he would be biased. the point is to hold government to account, not be a labour fanboy
@lookoutleo
@lookoutleo Ай бұрын
Johnathan pie is brilliant . In the 80s their were a few programs that were close to the edge but in last 20 years their was nobody taking the folk in power to task , hes a breath of fresh air :)
@DrummerBoy233
@DrummerBoy233 Ай бұрын
I've liked this character for years and he's almost the British equivalent to Australian TV show, 'Shaun Micallef's Mad As Hell'. It aired in Australia for just over 10 years and wrapped last year. The only difference between them: 'Mad As Hell' has Shaun Micallef presenting as a frustrated news anchor in studio to a live audience. Recurring actors played "guest speakers" attempting to advocate for each event reported on. But 9/10 they shot their own feet off. I used it to get my filler of weekly news, it was fantastic.
@dominicparker6124
@dominicparker6124 Ай бұрын
No love for ian hislop then eh
@lookoutleo
@lookoutleo Ай бұрын
@@dominicparker6124 lots respect for Ian hislop :)
@markrhoden68
@markrhoden68 Ай бұрын
In my teen years we had Spitting Image to mock the Politicians, Pie is a more intelligent grown up idea of humour. I'd like to see him on say Question Time put some heat under professional politicians
@GregOrCreg
@GregOrCreg Ай бұрын
I was too young to fully appreciate Spitting Image, but I always liked the idea of the show, and was impressed with the puppets, but after seeing the revival and recalling a few older sketches, I feel that most of it was scatological and vulgar than genuinely witty. The people behind the show seemed to have a childish obsession with faecal matter which makes it difficult to watch. It's a shame and such a waste of a potentially clever premise and some truly inspired puppets.
@geoffpoole483
@geoffpoole483 Ай бұрын
@@GregOrCreg The Spitting Image scripts weren't great. Take a look at the Not the Nine O'Clock News sketch "Constable Savage". It's over 40 years old but hasn't dated at all.
@GregOrCreg
@GregOrCreg Ай бұрын
@@geoffpoole483 Totally agreed that there was/is far better satire than Spitting Image. It's just a shame because SI had the potential to be better in view of the puppets and the fact that it focused on current events.
@markrhoden68
@markrhoden68 Ай бұрын
Also 'Yes Minister' stranger than fiction
@GregOrCreg
@GregOrCreg Ай бұрын
@@markrhoden68 I was a bit too young for that, but I've read some of the scripts, and they were indeed very sharp and clever.
@antonycharnock2993
@antonycharnock2993 Ай бұрын
I'm a Labour supporter and even I think Keir is worthy of ridicule
@chrismaddock5790
@chrismaddock5790 Ай бұрын
As a man who voted for both labour and tories in the past, I can honestly say that I never considered Johnathan Pie's character as one way or the other - just a regular Brit who's genuinely pissed off at how badly our country is being run right now and voicing his anger, saying the very things that so many of us are thinking, perhaps leaning a little bit to the left, but very much aware of where the left are getting it wrong as well. Truly an ingenious satirist
@1gerard47
@1gerard47 10 күн бұрын
Agree .100 %.
@mogznwaz
@mogznwaz 3 күн бұрын
He used to be like that- but he’s just become a ranty Tory and Brexit hater and it’s just not funny it’s really punching down actually
@MsCheesemonster13
@MsCheesemonster13 17 сағат бұрын
@@mogznwaz How is it “punching down” when Jonathan Pie criticises the Tory Pary, which has been in power for the last fourteen years? A party which is largely made up of very rich and powerful politicians. As for bloody Brexit, well yes anyone who voted for that shambles is short of a fair few brain cells, so we should feel sorry for them rather than laugh at them. 🙄 Do you actually know what “punching down” means?
@karlfran0404
@karlfran0404 Ай бұрын
I remember when Rik Mayall’s character Alan B’Stard switched to New Labour. Genius.
@pulchralutetia
@pulchralutetia Ай бұрын
Not much of a switch, to be fair!
@jamesthecat
@jamesthecat Ай бұрын
Yes, and remember how anti-Thatcher the actual writers were!
@lemsip207
@lemsip207 Ай бұрын
Even my parents could see through Blair and they voted Conservative. They hated that emptiness in him. I think they would have rathered Margaret Beckett or John Prescott was Prime Minister.
@dianegerrard6241
@dianegerrard6241 Ай бұрын
hmm all the sure-start projects!
@fredatlas4396
@fredatlas4396 Ай бұрын
​@@lemsip207Perhaps that's why because they were con-servative supporters. Things were as a matter of fact much better under the last Labour government from 1997 up until 2010
@rogueceska
@rogueceska Ай бұрын
This type of political satire was rife in the thatcher era and probably played a small part in their downfall in the end, as well as being a balm, it was also on mainstream tv all the time, Pie is exactly what we need unfortunately he is 1 man and we need an army of him.
@grumbo39
@grumbo39 Ай бұрын
It was funny. And richly deserved. Shame kids are more interested in brain dead TikTok videos now. :(
@jamesthecat
@jamesthecat Ай бұрын
I know what you mean, and I dearly hope it does have an effect, but I wonder how effective it actually was in the past. Spitting Image was absolutely scathing of Thatcher, turning her into some weird dehumanized robotic Caligula-type figure by the end, and millions (most with only 4 TV channels and no internet) were glued to it, and laughed it up, but still apparently voted for her, when it came down to it, as long the economy was going well. The recession and the poll tax seemed to be the breaking points, and analysts now say that even 'old Labour' (with Neil Kinnock or, preferably, John Smith) would have got in at that time. Another one of those 'sliding doors' moments...!
@Le4befar
@Le4befar Ай бұрын
The army is already on the street. Uniform consists of a stretched out ear lobes and blue/green hair.
@CaptainBollocks....
@CaptainBollocks.... Ай бұрын
@@jamesthecat They did bring back Spitting Image for a time, but for some reason it ended far too soon. I did notice they we're as biting as he original series, so maybe that's why it never took off?
@spunkychops7484
@spunkychops7484 Ай бұрын
Jonathan pie is amazing
@Pablo668
@Pablo668 Ай бұрын
I think the first clip I saw of Jonathan Pie was indeed him saying stop calling voters from the other side stupid. It doesn't help at all, and certainly doesn't win them over. Wise words I thought.
@TrophyGuide101
@TrophyGuide101 Ай бұрын
It's such a simple thing but impossible to achieve. I genuinely believe if you put someone in a room with their ideological enemy and said 'If you just treat them as a person for 10 minutes everything you want in politics will be achieved', they would be insulting them without 10 seconds because achieving their stated goals isn't actually the goal, it's showing others how virtuous they are.
@jimcraiggeezer
@jimcraiggeezer Ай бұрын
This guy is a legend.. very insightful.
@richardbyrnes8398
@richardbyrnes8398 Ай бұрын
He is the closest we've got to an opposition in this country. Seen this tour twice, in the diehard lefty redoubts of Oxford and Bath. The cheering to his rants (especially Coffey on the pier) was visceral. There's so much anger out there. Also, nice to see the mullet making a comeback.
@jakehowie442
@jakehowie442 Ай бұрын
Lefty? Is he? I’m sure there are plenty of left wing students in Bath, Oxford
@richardbyrnes8398
@richardbyrnes8398 Ай бұрын
@@jakehowie442 Most of the audiences were in their 40s or above.
@chrisholland7367
@chrisholland7367 Ай бұрын
Absolutely agree. His sledgehammer satire projects the anger and frustration most people are feeling. He's brilliant.
@RayBellis
@RayBellis Ай бұрын
We saw him in Oxford a year or so after the Brexit vote. His support act bombed, very badly, for his apparent Brexit supporting views.
@stevenredpath9332
@stevenredpath9332 Ай бұрын
As an old left-winger I despair at both major parties. Starmers’ Labour Party is walking the same path as the Tories, just less extreme. No more heroes anymore.
@benh715
@benh715 Ай бұрын
Ha
@RavenRuled
@RavenRuled Ай бұрын
Agree, the choice should be between losing a leg or an arm. There should be a 3rd option which allows you to keep both!!!
@JT_Williams
@JT_Williams Ай бұрын
Reform is only sensible option
@markianross
@markianross Ай бұрын
​@@JT_Williamswhy?
@mickmarsbar81
@mickmarsbar81 Ай бұрын
@@markianrossBecause all sane people hate Labour and the Tories with equal contempt.
@colinwhite5355
@colinwhite5355 Ай бұрын
Did I just witness someone from the north east doing an interview? Refreshing.
@user-pm8uc5dc3e
@user-pm8uc5dc3e Ай бұрын
Sadly ruined by an horrendous mullet.
@nebularain3338
@nebularain3338 Ай бұрын
@@user-pm8uc5dc3e Appearance has nothing to do with skill. Also, it's "a mullet". Not "an mullet".
@user-pm8uc5dc3e
@user-pm8uc5dc3e Ай бұрын
@@nebularain3338 Get an haircut you scruff
@colinwhite5355
@colinwhite5355 Ай бұрын
@@user-pm8uc5dc3e Let’s not judge a book by its cover - even if the cover is pretty terrible.
@g7vqedave2
@g7vqedave2 Ай бұрын
Definitely "an" horrendous mullet and a good interviewer/interview.
@patrickquinlan3056
@patrickquinlan3056 Ай бұрын
Pie's cover of Trump's win in 2016 was pure comedic genius.
@mum2jka
@mum2jka Ай бұрын
Or was it the cover of Clinton losing in 2016 that was brilliant...
@piccalillipit9211
@piccalillipit9211 Ай бұрын
It was the single best take on it of any commentator - it was exceptionally good.
@patrickquinlan3056
@patrickquinlan3056 Ай бұрын
@@mum2jka No, Clinton was an exceptionally poor candidate who caused her own loss and allowed that lump of orange snot to win. Anyway, what has that got to do with Pie?
@kaasmeester5903
@kaasmeester5903 Ай бұрын
@@piccalillipit9211He was spot-on about the dangers of vilifying political opponents and their supporters. A lesson that we sadly haven’t learned, quite the opposite.
@karmaascendant3936
@karmaascendant3936 Ай бұрын
@@kaasmeester5903i don’t want to be that guy but I feel like calling Trump voters deplorables is bad but backing this government after it’s failures in literally every metric for the last 14 years is worth the shame. There’s only so long someone can be blind to the truth before there’s no point trying to be nice to them. There’s a difference between disagreement on abortion for example and hard evidence that the government that you’ve voted for has failed on their manifesto to the tune of 80% failure rate and to vote again for them when they don’t have a functioning plan or the ability to generate new ones.
@stephentyler9697
@stephentyler9697 Ай бұрын
True talent! This mans contribution to satire is Without doubt genius Thank you!!
@ES-qm5hr
@ES-qm5hr Ай бұрын
All my brain is doing is going, "Blah, blah, blah, MULLET!"
@ManuelRomeroArcos-vx4qh
@ManuelRomeroArcos-vx4qh Ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@vickygarnett7623
@vickygarnett7623 Ай бұрын
WHY do young people think this a good look? They clearly didn’t live through the trauma the first time round.
@Lumibear.
@Lumibear. Ай бұрын
@@vickygarnett7623 they weren’t there mannnn, they weren’t there (smokes cigarettes with trembling fingers)… Tbh it’s more whenever the bowl cut comes back that weirds me out.
@MrMmnngghh
@MrMmnngghh Ай бұрын
@@Lumibear. I blame late nineties to early 2000's emo for the Return Of The Bowl Cut
@ES-qm5hr
@ES-qm5hr Ай бұрын
@@vickygarnett7623 You see young people have no authentic culture of their own now that social media has homogenized and commercialized everything, so they are doomed to repeat an endless death loop of past bad taste because they are unable to create anything new.
@NapoleonSolo61
@NapoleonSolo61 Ай бұрын
I can't get over that guys Mullet 🤣
@MrMmnngghh
@MrMmnngghh Ай бұрын
Sensational 🪮
@pulchralutetia
@pulchralutetia Ай бұрын
It screams Duesseldorf 1986. He just needs the bleached jeans to go with it.
@mookyzook
@mookyzook Ай бұрын
That's what happens when you grow out the modern man's haircut. You know the one that looks like you've been locked up in a foreign jail or been conscripted to the army in the past. Long on the top, almost shaved at the sides The Turkish barber look. 🤣
@Kettlepip
@Kettlepip Ай бұрын
I love how younger folks currently often look like they're cosplaying as extras from 80s episodes of Home and Away.
@pulchralutetia
@pulchralutetia Ай бұрын
@@Kettlepip It’s a sign of their desperation.
@robertlaw.
@robertlaw. Ай бұрын
An out of work actor jumped at the chance to commodify impotent rage. A strong earner in 2020s Britain.
@ColinBarrett001
@ColinBarrett001 Ай бұрын
He taps into the visceral rage felt by the true majority against this appalling Tory regime and their awful brexit.
@lemsip207
@lemsip207 Ай бұрын
He played Tom Parker Bowles in a made for TV film about Prince William following the death of his mother. His father made him hang out with Camilla's children but they were a bad influence on him.
@user-jb1me4bm1v
@user-jb1me4bm1v Ай бұрын
This guy is absolutely brilliant, he says what a real interviewer should say , instead of media right wing bias that our toxic media dish out
@Hellwyck
@Hellwyck Ай бұрын
That interviewer must be in demand, Pie got him halfway through his haircut!
@Warbaman
@Warbaman Ай бұрын
What an embarrassment to walk down the street like that ay? The mind boggles.
@MrMmnngghh
@MrMmnngghh Ай бұрын
@@Warbaman Mullet is as Mullet does, champ
@luke7708
@luke7708 Ай бұрын
Best comment! It's compounded when they have a moustache to boot. The early 80's look is not one I thought would come back.
@MarvinofMars
@MarvinofMars Ай бұрын
Pie is a legend. Being ex rescue services I have been interviewed live, then when the live report cut, the presenters really went to town on the idiots who caused incident. Pie has the ECHR carinage, Rwanda, Labour back tracking on election promises. ( it will be hard with the debt the UK is in!)
@RantingCentre
@RantingCentre Ай бұрын
Went to see him live and was blown away by this...would thoroughly recommend :)
@isabelbaxendale5581
@isabelbaxendale5581 2 күн бұрын
How this brilliant actor could ever have been out of work is a mystery to me!
@roberthorwat6747
@roberthorwat6747 Ай бұрын
I remember when Colin Baker was at Westminster, cold feet, warm heart, married, several children, pissed off, dreadfully pissed off!
@Bromley68
@Bromley68 Ай бұрын
"This is Colin Baker, the Old Bailey......soaked.....married, with several children....an aching heart......pissed off.....really dreadfully pissed off"
@roberthorwat6747
@roberthorwat6747 Ай бұрын
@@Bromley68 spot on! It was a long time ago and actually funnier than I remembered it🤣
@Bromley68
@Bromley68 Ай бұрын
@@roberthorwat6747 If I remember, Baker's report had almost no details, he hadn't even been given the names of the defendants, he had obviously been told to stand there in the pouring rain doing an utterly pointless report with no information. I remember all this because my friend's dad worked for ITN and at Xmas parties, they would recite Baker's diatribe in the same way that Monty Python fans can recite whole sketches :)
@mayhem492
@mayhem492 Ай бұрын
Pie began from a refreshingly impartially position, happy to have a pop at both sides. Inevitably his creator realised that a drift to the left ensured being embraced by a younger, more enthusiastic fan base and inevitably more lucrative.
@DavidBrown-bs7gg
@DavidBrown-bs7gg Ай бұрын
Agreed, I preferred his impartial stance, I stopped watching when he became clearly biased
@Krymefighter
@Krymefighter Ай бұрын
Great observations, demonising your opponents voters, no matter how much you dislike their views, does neither side any favours. Also liked the point about politicians not feeling like they can be in a position to apologise for getting something wrong. I think changing that narrative would instantly restore a small measure of integrity back into politics across the spectrum.
@Naedlus
@Naedlus Ай бұрын
Now, if only Conservatives weren't demonizing the left for the last fifty years, we'd likely be able to get along. But, being told that "healthcare is a human right" and "We shouldn't pick on minorities" gets them screaming that you're a dirty commie, so, hard to justify treating people nice, when they are dead set on bringing the world back to the rule of kings.
@user-qd2pc5gz4n
@user-qd2pc5gz4n Ай бұрын
We need more people like pie in parliament ❤
@bkolumban
@bkolumban Ай бұрын
...so more made up characters?
@floyd1186
@floyd1186 Ай бұрын
We have enough comedians
@hitthenorth9667
@hitthenorth9667 Ай бұрын
More lefties ? Surely we’ve got enough ?!?
@terryboland3816
@terryboland3816 Ай бұрын
More people who refuse to discuss their tax arrangements for money they were given by Russian state propagandists? Is that what we need? Really?
@MichaelSchuerig
@MichaelSchuerig Ай бұрын
Making an actor president didn't work out half bad for Ukraine. (I'm not so sure about the US in the 80s.)
@simonphelon7221
@simonphelon7221 Ай бұрын
The worst thing about Bill Cosby was the hypocrisy.
@slapshot0074
@slapshot0074 Ай бұрын
Nice nod to norm macdonald.
@jeremypnet
@jeremypnet Ай бұрын
I dunno. I think sexual assault is pretty bad.
@OptimisticHominid
@OptimisticHominid Ай бұрын
People who say that Sunak and Starmer are the same need some extra brain cells.
@brianferguson7840
@brianferguson7840 Ай бұрын
Perhaps two ? To double the existing stock !
@piccalillipit9211
@piccalillipit9211 Ай бұрын
I dont like Starmer - Im not a Corbinite - but Starmer is a slimy greasy standard politician who would sell his mother for power - IMO. BUT - Sunak would sell the COUNTY and is selling the country for personal financial gain - he will make disabled people poorer and more miserable JUST to hang on a bit longer to try and get his India trade deal - he is a terrible human being and there is NO comparison with Starmer. Starmer scored 3/10 but Sunak scores minus several million
@theghostoftom
@theghostoftom Ай бұрын
My guy, Starmer has been binning promises and running to the Right for years. He got rid of every Labour MP who backed unions, you know the thing Labour was built on. He blackmailed the speaker. Openly. He has openly talked about further austerity measures. He takes cash from a "green energy" company which chops trees in Canada into wood chips and wants to ship them across the Atlantic to burn here as biofuels. He has no intention of bringing in proportional representation. He spent years as a human rights lawyer. Pretends that Israeli war crimes are legal. Basically he has done everything he could to show anyone paying attention that he is another "new labour" Tory in a red tie.
@st.george007
@st.george007 Ай бұрын
Absolutely correct, they both need more brain cells and then maybe they can be a bit different.
@laurencefox5884
@laurencefox5884 Ай бұрын
They are both Tories. So there are some similarities...
@nickxcore74
@nickxcore74 Ай бұрын
I’m sick of putting up with the lesser of two evils, but the brainwashed masses still seem to tolerate this totally corrupt system that we’re living under.
@user-bv5lc1nf5d
@user-bv5lc1nf5d Ай бұрын
Very true. I am a Bennite by birth, but have been shunted over to Reform because the Left no longer want people like me anywhere near their 'safe space'. Why do people vote for the Labour-Tory Uniparty - it's because of fear, fear that there's no other option and that no other party can ever win because that's just how it is. Ask any Labour or Tory voter why and, if they don't have a mental breakdown because you asked, they cannot give an honest response - 'the alternative isn't worth considering', 'the Tories are corrupt', 'Labour love paedos' etc. etc. Basically, you have a circular feedback between two opposing factions who actually NEED each other - one is the boogeyman of the other. Of course, there's no reason why Reform UK or Rejoin EU can't be the parties of power - it takes 326 seats won and if either party can do that then they will form the next Government. Reform becoming the party of Government might make some suicidal, but others would welcome it and (same as if Rejoin EU won) it would be a fresh alternative. People have to think back to 2020 and Covid-19 - neither Tories or Labour covered themselves with any glory or dignity with what happened, because Uniparty Neolibs do not give a sh*t about anybody or anything other than themselves. You're poor - f*ck you, your tax is too high - f*ck you, the NHS is failing - f*ck them. What are we going to do? Oh yeah, vote in Labour because Carol Vorderman tells us to. If Rejoin EU become the new party of power, much as I would oppose their Brexit stance, I would be prepared to give them a chance and if they got the economy under control they'd earn my respect for that. However, I can see certain Left facets going more apoplectic that they got elected than if Farage becomes the next PM - 'how dare the Left not vote for the Left which I want... that is sooo offensive!'
@alexhando8541
@alexhando8541 Ай бұрын
Hence why I'm writing to my local MP (yeah I know nothing will probably happen) if there is no electoral reform enacted by the next government. We need proportional representation!
@user-bv5lc1nf5d
@user-bv5lc1nf5d Ай бұрын
@@alexhando8541 PR - useful but I think FPTP is here to stay. Most people want PR until you point out 'well that could mean giving Reform UK a platform'. Love them or loathe them, their vote is on the up and very few nuanced people would be prepared to say 'I may not like them, but I believe that they should be heard.' It's more like 'no, ban the horrible people who say horrible things I don't like.'
@alexhando8541
@alexhando8541 Ай бұрын
@@user-bv5lc1nf5d proportional systems like STV would not prevent greater representation for radically left or right wing parties, but would still not allow them to getting in to power, as the system favours coalitions instead. Regardless of hypothetical scenarios, Reclaim, Reform and the like would remain fringe parties with only a handful of MPs despite the change in system. They certainly wouldn't be forming any governments, it would be a situation very like Germany at present, but certainly not Germany like in 1936 like a lot of people seem to worry about...
@neilstapleton30
@neilstapleton30 Ай бұрын
Five or ten years! If their absence from power is proportional to the damage done…. 100 years, never?
@tonyb9560
@tonyb9560 Ай бұрын
The Labour party introduced the minimum wage, the NHS, workers rights etc. The politicians are not all the same. The tory party are responsible for the mess .They only care about their bank balance.
@latchmere100
@latchmere100 Ай бұрын
The Labour Party has not done a thing for the working classes. They ruined this country under Blair.
@anglodoomer5995
@anglodoomer5995 Ай бұрын
You're literally describing Kid Starver
@Samuel-hd3cp
@Samuel-hd3cp Ай бұрын
Yea, a bit like Madonna, I only like their early stuff. All the recent stuff is rubbish.
@tonyb9560
@tonyb9560 Ай бұрын
@@Samuel-hd3cp The Tories have been like Boyz II men for a long time.Just ask Mr Menzies and his friends in the party.
@henghistbluetooth7882
@henghistbluetooth7882 Ай бұрын
The current tories are the worst. But the Labour Party didn’t introduce workers rights. That was the liberal party from 1830 up to ww1. The Labour Party continued the tradition. And although I would applaud the NHS and the minimum wage, they also introduced the ;government messing with private businesses’ philosophy that destroyed our automotive and aviation industries. Nobody is perfect.
@MrChallacombe
@MrChallacombe Ай бұрын
Was great to see him Live
@clickrick
@clickrick Ай бұрын
Ian Hislop has managed to satirise all sides, and for broadly the same failings as Pie does. I'll be surprised if Tom Walker doesn't make the same shift if (when?) we get a different government.
@cpuuk
@cpuuk Ай бұрын
He says what we are all thinking and want to yell out loud.
@user-nj1qu1cs7s
@user-nj1qu1cs7s 8 күн бұрын
Well said Tom we needed you and unfortunately I think after Starmer takes over we'll continue to need you, don't kill off Johnathan Pie.
@petekadenz9465
@petekadenz9465 Ай бұрын
So very sensible and insightful.
@williamblackwell2978
@williamblackwell2978 Ай бұрын
Tom, your idea of choice in your next election is how I consider mine; we’re not voting for a candidate per se, but rather we’re voting against a candidate. Anyone but Trump secures my vote. Anyone but Tory probably gets yours PS. You should get awards for the best rants ever. love them.
@millennialmale4879
@millennialmale4879 Ай бұрын
unfortunately the tories arent the worst in uk. we have growing far right parties like reform uk.
@stephenoxf
@stephenoxf Ай бұрын
@@millennialmale4879 I see reform as a positive thing, because it means we'll get a change in government, even if it is 2024-era Labour.
@kaasmeester5903
@kaasmeester5903 Ай бұрын
Isn’t that what happened back in 2016 as well? Trump was a bit of an unknown, politically speaking. While Clinton was the very embodiment of everything that people thought was wrong with politics. I’m no American, but in ‘16 I might have very well voted against Clinton, i.e. for Trump.
@gribblethemunchkin
@gribblethemunchkin Ай бұрын
I think over here its a rejection of the tory manner of governing that people are rejecting, we can't really vote against any particular candidate because they never last long enough to become the central problem. The last two didn't even win a general election, just a tory party leadership campaign. Its been 14 years now and we are just sick of the constant scandal and lack of actual governing. I think most people just want politics to be boring again, to not have this constant stream of half mad weirdos in charge and the constant scandals.
@clayface563
@clayface563 Ай бұрын
@@stephenoxfthat’s insane
@dannyhancock9330
@dannyhancock9330 Ай бұрын
A Mullet in 2024!!!!! Get this interviewer to a Barber STAT!!
@ToeRagFC
@ToeRagFC Ай бұрын
If its so important that Keir Starmer 'used to be a Human Rights Lawyer'... Then why does he support the genocide being committed in Gaza? The idea that Starmer is better for this reason is laughable... And not in a comedic way!
@willtricks9432
@willtricks9432 Ай бұрын
Johnathan Pie is "It'll be alright on the night" with a Machette in one hand and "Roger's Profanasaurus" in the other. Top content on any platform. Cheers
@katalinhorvath8139
@katalinhorvath8139 Ай бұрын
Pie helps me to understand important events in the UK. Nothing less than that. On top of that Pie allows me to feel what I feel.
@stevedavidson666
@stevedavidson666 Ай бұрын
I was over in London from South Africa for the last two weeks and finally able to see him in the flesh at the Duke of York theatre. He was ABSOLUTELY EFFING BRILLIANT!!! Thanks so much Tom for creating JP in the first place but then putting together a show which as @rrbh says below your rants are even ten times better than the ones we have here on KZbin. I think the whole audience raged along with every word.
@jamesgravil9162
@jamesgravil9162 Ай бұрын
"For twenty years I was an out-of-work actor." That's even longer than Ford Prefect. He was only out of work for fifteen years!
@hdmartyh
@hdmartyh Ай бұрын
Love this guy. Its sad that things are so bad that his satire is just 100 truths at the moment.
@RalphBrooker-gn9iv
@RalphBrooker-gn9iv Ай бұрын
OMG 😱 Jonathan Partridge-Tucker! 😅
@jamesgibson1123
@jamesgibson1123 Ай бұрын
Over half the country are centre right, tory/brexit voters. Amazes me that people talk about them like its a small fringe group of people 😂
@RobBCactive
@RobBCactive Ай бұрын
You haven't been reading election results correctly, more than half the country voted against both Tories and Brexit and seen them turn extreme right, then break Britain with delusional policies.
@1983pety
@1983pety Ай бұрын
Amazes me as well. I'm not attacking the Tory voters however I have a few of them around me who still think Brexit was good for the country, that the NHS is in difficulties because of immigrants and those desperate boat people and not the politicians they've elected, etc. There's no way to change their minds.
@douglasstewart3889
@douglasstewart3889 Ай бұрын
Eh…no. Brexit yes, Tories no. The Tories and Reform combined are about 34% right now, and with Johnson they got 43% of the vote.
@SMoggyinski
@SMoggyinski Ай бұрын
That is completely false. The only reason that the Conservatives have been so successful historically, is that the non-Tory vote has always been split, sometimes 3 or 4 ways. The fact that Brexshit voting, GB News watching trash now have a "viable" (!?) alternative in Reform, simply balances things up a bit electorally.
@huffdiggler
@huffdiggler Ай бұрын
I think it’s odd that Sir Kier is never mentioned as a Sir, a Knight of the realm, like it’s hidden like a hush hush, dirty title. “Labour is for the common man” they say, with a Sir at the helm….
@rkk578
@rkk578 Ай бұрын
He got this because of his position and it is a tradition that the role holder gets it.
@PeaHaytch4
@PeaHaytch4 Ай бұрын
What does it matter who you vote for? Humour doesn't pick sides; it splits both left and right with laughter 💁‍♂️
@TheVRSofa
@TheVRSofa Ай бұрын
legend
@ChrisCM23
@ChrisCM23 Ай бұрын
Johnathan Pie you are excellent
@masterwatch
@masterwatch Ай бұрын
Jonathan is great 😂
@PassiveAgressive319
@PassiveAgressive319 Ай бұрын
I loved his radio series on the BBC and his KZbin channel.
@sirperybLakeney
@sirperybLakeney Ай бұрын
Tom's great. One of the few interviews with a contemporary celebrity where you feel like they're genuine.
@GregOrCreg
@GregOrCreg Ай бұрын
There are many people in the country who aren't hypocrites, like me. How about voting for people like me who honour their beliefs rather than yet another careerist hypocrite? It's time people were rewarded for integrity and honesty.
@BM-lb3xs
@BM-lb3xs Ай бұрын
Everybody is a hypocrite to some degree. Have some modesty, you are not special, you are fallible, as is everybody else. The sooner you and everyone else accepts this the better the world will become.
@leeroy1986
@leeroy1986 Ай бұрын
I generally thought Pie was a real-life mate of James O'brien lol.
@smithy280663
@smithy280663 Ай бұрын
If you ever get the chance to see him live, do it.......he's brilliant!
@user-cu5gc4qz8p
@user-cu5gc4qz8p Ай бұрын
that is an excellent 1 second clip of Peter Capaldi :P
@rojavida
@rojavida Ай бұрын
“Do come! You’ll miss out on something great!” - Su Pollard after watching Heroes & Villains.
@TheOMT
@TheOMT Ай бұрын
Actually, this is the first time I've seen that is not his real name 😂😂😂
@George57
@George57 8 күн бұрын
Not gross at all. It’s so true to reality. And that’s what makes Johnathan pie so funny. And I for one will keep watching his videos
@francesdoyle1508
@francesdoyle1508 Ай бұрын
I've never heard Tom talking before and this is brilliant 👏🏼 ❤
@cinemaipswich4636
@cinemaipswich4636 Ай бұрын
...what do news reporters do between turds... A wonderful turn of phrase. "Thinking while speaking" is wonderful when somebody says the truth while speaking out loud. Comedy, satire and irony are the comic's best friend.
@alexscarbro796
@alexscarbro796 29 күн бұрын
I’d love to see Pie’s reaction to discovering Boris and Mogg sat on the front row!
@tobytyke308
@tobytyke308 21 күн бұрын
Great interview.
@Kit2Canada
@Kit2Canada Ай бұрын
Superb!
@robg521
@robg521 Ай бұрын
The brilliant thing about the early Spitting Image programmes was that they lampooned all politicians, [some more than others] even though the writers were mostly left wing minded they still targeted the political elite across the board. The problem comes when the motivation to make the programme becomes politically biased, because it then turn from comedy into propaganda.
@raulpinto7543
@raulpinto7543 Ай бұрын
Why is it gross? The people whose faces got eaten have a real grievance against those who let the face-eating leopard party in.
@mrsh810
@mrsh810 Ай бұрын
Love all that you do, and agree with most of what you say
@davidreichert9392
@davidreichert9392 4 күн бұрын
In Canada we're lucky, there's lots of satire to be had regardless of whether we have a Liberal or Tory government.,
@neilburgess9652
@neilburgess9652 Ай бұрын
perfection! Partridge wit and sardonic laughter at the idiocy Boris was part of and is now continued in uk politics. Love this and he got it just right at the right time.many times
@mark271058
@mark271058 Ай бұрын
Genius!❤
@beatz04
@beatz04 8 күн бұрын
I think Tom is the only person who thinks there is a difference between Tom and Jonathan.
@jayamd3579
@jayamd3579 Ай бұрын
actually this is what we need! i call them worse things, but that would never be televised
@eddiehitler9822
@eddiehitler9822 Ай бұрын
I go for the rants but Pie cracks me up, too
@earnestequivocation6250
@earnestequivocation6250 Ай бұрын
It's like he can read our minds and express our feelings in a more articulate amusing manner than we could ever hope to.
@Giovanniditessitore
@Giovanniditessitore Ай бұрын
Lovely interview
@Red_Crows
@Red_Crows Ай бұрын
Pie the character will have plenty to complain about when he realises the tories are still in power just wearing red 😂
@MattCrawley_Music
@MattCrawley_Music Ай бұрын
Can we have a pop at the interviewer's mullet?
@vaughancapstick9961
@vaughancapstick9961 Ай бұрын
We all love Tom ❤️
@MartinandFreddie
@MartinandFreddie Ай бұрын
"The child of Partidge and Tucker"............. PERFECT! Thank you Tom!! Having seen Pie (Tom Walker) live, all i can say is "How the hell does he remember it all, and where does he get the energy from' Without doubt the best live performer, in any genre, I have ever seen, and i have seen Dave Allen, Led Zeppelin, Dara O'Briain and Pink Floyd to name but four!!
@MatchesMalone1183
@MatchesMalone1183 Ай бұрын
I'd never seen that Sissons clip before 😂
@jamesmarsh4957
@jamesmarsh4957 Ай бұрын
love Tom's accent , great interview , love Pie he says the things we all are thinking , brilliant
@ablebadger4
@ablebadger4 Ай бұрын
I did think the calling of Brexit voters as thick or racist by the supposedly more intelligent remain voters to be rather ironic.
@laurencecheyne593
@laurencecheyne593 5 күн бұрын
No it's not. Brexit was sold by liars to the gullible.
@CarrionCrow993
@CarrionCrow993 Ай бұрын
Keep at it Tom.
@jakebrightmusic
@jakebrightmusic Ай бұрын
Are those Adidas Sambas? Nice power move!
@jayque
@jayque Ай бұрын
The best newscaster in the world Jonathan Pie.
@tirinoarim
@tirinoarim Ай бұрын
If Labour does get in, Starmer (much like Blair) seems to be much more right/new labour than labour of old so I think there's still going to be plenty of material (unfortunately).
@LoveProWrestling
@LoveProWrestling Ай бұрын
A month long honeymoon is probably three weeks longer than we will get.
@17losttrout
@17losttrout Ай бұрын
Starmer will hand out passports like confetti. The Tories are useless, but Labour will be worse. Grifter Lammy in the Cabinet...
@kevinwilliams1421
@kevinwilliams1421 Ай бұрын
His latest show is amazing I cannot recommend it enough
@csatterley
@csatterley Ай бұрын
The interviewer makes me glad I had my youth in between the two times that mullets have been considered an acceptable hairstyle.
@TheWatchman1893
@TheWatchman1893 Ай бұрын
Pie is excellent, been keeping me entertained since day 1👌
@michaelkhan1752
@michaelkhan1752 Ай бұрын
Legend
@sixstringedthing
@sixstringedthing 15 күн бұрын
It made my night to discover that Pie was Tom's final dice roll and originally intended to just "goof off between takes" in the hope that people would find it funny, then unexpectedly discovering that hundreds of thousands of people were 100% on board with everything he had to say about politics. I believe this is what the yoofs refer to as "real talk".
@xNSHD
@xNSHD Ай бұрын
No vulgar it's an observation.
@flippy66
@flippy66 Ай бұрын
Agree with him on hypocrisy, it's a non-starter in terms of an argument. Paying for public school because it's the best option doesn't mean that you agree with the system or that it should be the best option.
@rkk578
@rkk578 Ай бұрын
I disagree with him on that. If someone yells all year around how I am the problem because I eat meat and I shouldn't visit my family once a year, it is perfectly okay to call the person out for a 2 weeks all inclusive holiday in Asia. Same with protesting against religion and sending kids to a Catholic school...
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