IWC Ingenieur 40 - the legend is back!

Hands-on review of the new 2023 IWC Ingenieur
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[@dannysimenauer5745]

Thanks Adrian for being the first KZbinr to introduce us to the IWC Ingineur remake of this Gerald Genta classique! It is never too late to reintroduce a true original classic! Never too late. I am going to put this watch on my wish list.

[@wheelsandwatches]

They went to all that trouble to make an incredible looking and well proportioned watch and didn’t include a micro adjust clasp and made it £2-£3k too expensive!

[@arniac6920]

^this

[@bdegrds]

Price falls in line with other high horology pieces at this level

[@wheelsandwatches]

@@bdegrds agree but the starting point is too high imo.

[@udosmesovsky4249]

Exactly my words!

[@brysoga]

I hope you don't take offence but I am on a mission to understand people when they comment that a watch is £x too expensive. Are you able to articulate how you arrive at a different valuation for this watch?

[@rcrymble]

I'm an engineer who loves watches. I'm not a pilot, racing driver or diver. So this beautiful watch appeals. Although sadly engineers can't afford £10k on a watch! 😅

[@heinrichdorfmann9241]

I am an engineer who loves watches and 100% agree. From an engineering and value proposition point of view, I prefer Archimede Outdoor Antimag Ti (on my wrist), Sinn 556 or Damasco D30. All wear also fine dressed up, if needed.

[@OngoGablogian185]

I thought engineers were loaded with money? The oil and gas ones I know are, at least.

[@TrendyStone]

Gosh....I'm an engineer with 7 watches in that range. If you can't afford a £10k watch as an engineer...you might be doing something wrong. Here in the US we have a STEM shortage and you can pretty much choose your salary.

[@ams914]

If this were the same price as the Aquatimer I just got I would definitely be having some buyer's remorse, that's for sure. I think the new Ingenieur is a home run!

[@chamarajayamal9810]

ams914 they will start at $11,700. I own an Aquatimer also. Beautiful watch, congratulations.

[@ams914]

@@chamarajayamal9810 Thanks, I got it with their new 5-day movement. Unfortunately, I got a lemon so it's being fixed by IWC under warranty. Happens once in a while, just got unlucky.

[@simonhalkyard4427]

Wonder if Adrian knew the price at filming? They are pushing it price wise and in 2023 at the luxury end it’s inexcusable not to have micro adjustment. Especially for a watch you are always going to keep on the bracelet. The watch looks great and good to see them do such a good job on it.

[@fillo1969]

Love it!! Just absolutely love it!

[@jarrodlee1506]

Love it. wheres the micro ajust?

[@sebwrafter]

I can't imagine he knew of the 12K price tag when filming this. That price is pretty bonkers, especially considering that it has the SAME movement as his 5K Mark XX...

[@tarasmathers7423]

Adrian, I could not agree w/ you more. Definitely a solid improvement, all while still remaining faithful, to the original. Chris and his team at IWC, did a fantastic job w/ this. Your footage was brilliant. Thank you for highlighting this uber important design. Cheers.....

[@timemycollection]

This is one of the secrets you kept from us as this was recorded at home but your at watches and wonders 🙌🏾 THANK YOU

[@Prabyg]

IWC have a great back catalogue, I’d love for them to bring out a new version of the yacht club II

[@beauepperly3539]

the Golf Club would be nice as well... You can still find some fantastic deals on the vintage version.

[@BilalAhmad-ex1tm]

same! most underrated watch ever! 2nd hand prices are crazy now

[@CleverSmart123]

The price is crazy high for what is offered and this being an IWC

[@gymclasshero88]

Yeah, it’s ridiculous precise

[@oscarthomasfifa4871]

100% the laureato is cheaper on the grey market than this!

[@piotrkrolikowski5903]

Companies everywhere are trying to drive up prices and see what people are willing to pay.

[@jarrodlee1506]

It's a genuine luxury watch arguably better than rolex

[@douglaspuglas6888]

@@jarrodlee1506 Trouble is youll always get your money back and in some cases more with a Rolex if you ever need to sell and thats quite a big concern for most people if youre not a millionaire

[@richardcollins586]

I bought a MKXX this evening in London. Blue, and with the additional brown strap. My friend bought the Lewis Hamilton Ingenieur when he was partnered with Rosberg, that is a lovely watch.

[@davidb5720]

Best non plug, plug yet for Bark and Jack merch! 😂 cool watch and very under the radar for such an important piece

[@stu632]

12,000 chf! WHAT? No micro adjustment! No display back when the technology is there for amagnetism without an iron core..........

[@MKGamingInvesting]

What? 7000Chf max

[@stu632]

@@polygoncoco For me they have been slightly overpriced in the past, but not too bad. 12,000 is ridiculous and an extra 3000 for titanium is unfathomable. That is almost half the price of what this should cost and half the price of say a Rolex OP 41. They can't justify it and the pricing has put me off IWC. That and not listening to their audience, the formula is simple.....Display back, micro adjustment on bracelet, Genta design, descent water rating (could be 150) and a competitive price point 7 or 8000 chf.

[@Wildcatjames1]

@stu632 I was actually about to post exactly the same comment!

[@mracekproductions]

I agree on price. But. New IWC bracelets have in built micro adjustment in the clasp don’t they ? although not mentioned this time so maybe not. And also has soft iron core case ?

[@rickjason215]

The MarkXX is fairly priced. 5 day power reserve. Not interested. Too expensive. I like to see the movement. He is way over the top about this watch. Who cares about the antimagnetic case, when everyone else has moved to silicon mainsprings. It is a typical 3 handed. $5500 on Chrono24. Not $12000.

[@maciej6293]

This watch looks better in person than in photos. I saw it at the IWC boutique and it is AMAZING!

[@Franzino]

I also saw all the colors in real life and the watch is amazing!

[@notenoughtime7274]

Great video and to see this back Love the new version in the Aqua dial. Nicely done tapered bracelet This time around I think these are going to be hard to get….

[@plutinicus]

Brilliant.. totally agree. They stayed faithful to the original to preserve its Genta heritage and identity (even the brushed satin finish) but with updated chamfered edges and other tweaks and enhancements to bring it gracefully into the 21st century. Love the dial pattern. Dont know which one to choose. Stellar job.

[@nickd.3868]

If I'm not mistaken, the movement is modified by IWC and based on ETA 2892 manufactured by ValFleurier. The movement is somewhat in-house but not totally. I think the watch is to expensive. I would expect a totally in-house movement at that price point or between 8-10k with the current movement.

[@Flakexbeats]

You are mistaken 😅

[@Robert-vw3od]

You are absolutely correct. It’s the same movement that is in the Riviera. ironically, a watch that was designed at the same time as the Royal oak.

[@Esteban69129]

You appreciate IWC craftsmanship when it’s in your hands.

[@mkyhou1160]

Not really - mine was bland, I sold it.

[@MusicArchon]

Mkyuoun casual

[@Not-a-bot222]

To be fair the dive watch too is timeless. Designed in 1953 and relevant still today

[@SinnerAndSaint]

I think it's a great step to revive the Genta design again. I was crying to see the 'new' (now 'old') one after the famous 3239 iteration - which is still the best looking Ingenieur today imho. This brand new 38901 is very true to the original Genta design and I kind like it. BUT I think there are multiple problems: They have heavily increased the price, the way cheaper Pilot's watch Mark XX has the same movement and even the great adjustable clasp. And their just mentioned Pilot's watch is nowaday more iconic to me as they kept this simple design for years with just slight improvements. So for me this is the way better deal if you want an IWC with a great Inhouse movement with a much better clasp design.

[@leon_ME]

I will be finishing my Master's degree around the end of this year and was looking for a watch as a gift for myself. I guess this is gonna be the one I'm heading for.

[@blafuckyou]

What kinda of Master's degree study allows you to spend 12k at the end of it? You're supposed to be broke. haha

[@boatdetective]

WOW! they've hovered over getting this right for years. This one seems just right. Very exciting indeed!

[@mt24Carson]

Back to the future, and less is more. Classic timepiece. Thanks Adrian. 👍⌚

[@steve8510]

Jesus! Gentleman Gerry has designed all my faves.

[@make.oxtail.cheap.again1]

Gp laureato was heavy inspired and the zenith defy

[@elmathnl]

The price is ridiculous! The Mark XX has an amazing bracelet, is stainless steel too and it has the same movement… What exactly justifies the almost 6k premium?! It looks great and I would love to own one but it should cost 8k, absolute maximum. Hope they will be around that price on the grey market!

[@bdegrds]

Another internet troll that cannot comprehend that IWC is high horology and one of the finest watchmakers

[@bramkouwen]

The Aqua dial makes it look absolutely stunning

[@kenrabow]

Great video (as always). I just put my deposit down for the Silver Vsn. It seems they now have the option to choose the micro-adjustment or stay with the one shown at W&W. Do you guys think I should go with the micro-adjustment? Will it make the watch look or feel any different?

[@laammansi]

I kinda like the one of W&Ws that Adrian shows 😍 so, refined and well done 👍 people complain about this type but over the nautilus they never complain about the pricr 🫣 although the price is much more and the movement is not a high end horlogerie manufacture anymore 🤷🏼‍♂️ (5711)

[@craig2100]

Beautiful, sporty, and elegant

[@frank327]

Great vid. Seen as AP only make Royal Oaks and Code 11.59s or whatever they're called it's fairly safe to say the brand wouldn't have survived without the Genta designed RO.

[@MrLewisWhale]

Love to see a Bark and Jack watch review back up. I’ve been loving About Effing Time, but definitely prefer Bark and Jack/Adrian Barker watch reviews. This IWC is amazing too!

[@miron9756]

I have been waiting for this for a while and finally it is out. I love it, everything is very well done and I would buy it in a heartbeat if it wasn't for the missing micro adjustment on the bracelet. Such a missed opportunity. What a shame.

[@kenrabow]

They are now offering the micro-adjustment as an option. Same price I believe.

[@miron9756]

@Ken Rabow if that's true there must have been lots of negative feedback. IWC made the statement that they specifically left out the micro adjust in favor of aesthetics of the clasp area and to keep it slim. For a watch such as the Ingenieur form should follow function, offering micro adjust will mean just that. Edit: source is interview of Watchadvisor with IWC

[@kenrabow]

@@miron9756 That's what I was told at the AD as well. It will change that area. I'm going to go check out the both versions of the strap (w/o the Ingenieur) and see what I want to order. I am told you can by the micro-adjust after the fact as well.

[@m.e.p.r]

Lovely watch, but I think I prefer the 2013 release, reference IW323904. Harder lines, more angular caseworks and can be got for significantly less than the new model.

[@stevens1041]

Half the price, wasn't it? The new pricing is insane.

[@m.e.p.r]

@@stevens1041 Its a steep price yeah, I guess everyone is saying that. I wouldn't be surprised if ADs offer them at a significant discount though. It's the same with Omega...you should always expect a discount

[@gavinwhite9743]

Stunning watch and history, wish it was a little bit more affordable, but need to see it in the flesh to understand how much I need it.

[@JizzyNinja]

Really great, but personally can’t justify the price. I’m sure it will be a hit and applaud IWC for celebrating this design again, but for me, just looking for a bit more at that price point.

[@booneguy]

One of the things that we have in common is that we both love tool watches. They are simple, convenient, masculine and practical.

[@joshuakaplan5726]

so stoked to see this back in the line up! the dial designs are killer!

[@Khanh.Nguyen369]

Glad to see it back. Can’t wait to see it in person.

[@mannycalavera2335]

I love it. I just wish it was in the 5-7k price range. This price seems so hard to justify.

[@paulcornwell9207]

This has similar specs to the much cheaper Baume et Mercier Riviera with the Baumatic BM12-1975A movement. 120hours 28,800 and 21 jewels. Is it the same movement ?

[@cohan.forcer]

Love that you own a Mark XX, IWC is not talked about enough.

[@derosa1989]

Probably not too many people still reading the comments now that already posted about the butterfly clasp - but the CEO of IWC announced March 30th that the micro adjust clasp will be available as an accessory for the Ingenieur later this year.

[@thumperjdm]

Well done IWC. A smart choice to bring back.

[@louiscaleca]

This is my favorite release from W&W 2023. Just nailed it!

[@jespervver4181]

They should do the smaller sized one too. Maybe even with a thin case

[@DecemberNames]

Thank you for another great video mate. I enjoyed every second. Please keep it coming.

[@JeffGila]

It's gorgeous!! But why doesn't it come with the toolless adjustable clasp like previous model, that would make it perfect (for me)

[@khphou]

Having seen your wonderful introduction, I really want an Ingenieur now!

[@Roland_4012]

…and Problem No. 3: The price is just crazy. It costs almost twice the price of the Mark XX with bracelet. I am still waiting for IWC to explain the reason(s) for the huge price difference.

[@fragu123]

….agreed, it’s a joke…

[@Oak432]

Watch of the year. Brillant. 10/10. Great video thank you

[@pascals.6515]

Excellent review Adrian. An iconic watch strikes back, but unfortunately after all these years of waiting not at the expected perfect level ( without a quick change system, micro adjustment and open caseback)...and furthermore considering the known movement (like in the spitfire for half the price) for sure overpriced...a missed chance IWC

[@iancarnell5020]

Had one of these twenty years ago. Its good to see that its not a clunker as was the case with mine. It was just too unwieldy. They say once bitten twice shy because I lost a lot of money on mine when I flipped it.

[@Mike-dg9ib]

I wanted them to release this so badly, but they can jog on at this ridiculous price point

[@derosa1989]

It's sort of weird that many reviews don't even mention the 2013 version, the 3239 automatic, 40mm x 10mm thickness model, that is very similar to this one. The new one is a refinement of that design, while everyone seems obsessed with the Genta story, I wonder if they even know anything about the evolution of more recent versions?

[@ichirokojimaaa]

Love almost everything about this watch, but it is hard to agree with the 12000 CHF price tag.

[@MasterSam85]

More than a year later, I finally tried this watch...It is indeed a marvelous watch (bracelet is stunning!) and I understand Richemont/IWC want to compete with the top tier brands, but come on...I would have priced it between 8-9k. I mean, not the same style obviously but you can even get a grey-market Datejust at this price range..you really gotta be a die-hard fan...

[@stebesplace]

They certainly jacked the price up on this one!

[@geraldkottler3014]

Wow, I just finished watching the about effing time episode yesterday, where you guys talked about how much you would like to see IWC bring back this watch. You guys can see into the future haha

[@Valera_Scotland]

Third issue....butterfly clasp 😢 Gorgeous though

[@TheGuitarSpaSingapore]

i love this new design. love it wraps round your wrist and love the tapered bracelet - price ? it’s really steep

[@TheSandipDev]

Just love it. My favorite is the titanium one. As an engineer, I already have the Railmaster. This will be my next. Unfortunately Rolex discontinued the Milgauss before I could get one

[@Thomas-vq5pb]

Very rare to see a new edition better than the original one. Although I love the purity of the first Genta ingénieur, I really like the new model, thinner and more comfortable on the wrist. The closed case back is not an issue for me as I never look at the movement when there is an open case back. I also think that price is high but justified in my view, as IWC is a serious watch brand I have always admired (not to be compared with Chopard 😅). Also think the Ingénieur is more of a tool watch than the RO or the Nautilus, refined but more discreet and under the radar. The green/blue dial is beautiful but purchased the black dial version which is more suitable for me. Thanks Adrien, better late than never!

[@mikelewis2456]

Love the aqua dial. Not too late gonna be hot watch when released 🤔IWC made a great move.

[@joeplatz7289]

Really want this watch. Wish it were cheaper but at the same time I think they priced it perfectly, putting it up against the Laureato!

[@costelloandsilke7321]

Not too late - great to see that IWC have gone back to the original design in a sensible size.

[@paulhiggins8774]

One of the nicest looking watches I’ve seen for a long time

[@FluxedState]

Love the quick adjust on the clasp.

[@standardh_]

Great, well-rounded summary, man. Always killer content

[@firasmaruf5045]

Yes its a little late, but I'm still stoked to get one. That Aqua dial is gorgeous! Adrian, you are a class act. Kudos, my friend!

[@markr3926]

It is stunning, I just wish they had included a micro adjustment in the bracelet.

[@MrZanzibar123]

Very cool. Like that blue-green color!

[@anthonyhyba261]

Thank you for this review. I knew IWC was a good watch maker but a Gerald Genta watch, wow. I will consider this one since it has a rough sexy style.

[@rezamotori5709]

this is fantastic news!..........ingenieur going back to its roots!.............ben waiting this since VC went vintage

[@herodmchughyou]

The B&J ad at the end! Hahahaha! Good video though! And a beautiful watch

[@randys766]

Don’t mind the crown guards. Don’t mind the cost. I do mind a lack of micro-adjustment

[@brysoga]

Ah this could be the first modern IWC I would be willing to buy. The obvious one to go for is the black, I know 100% that aqua is a fashion trend that will most probably look ridiculous in a few years and yet, it really is very very tempting. Good video.

[@achraftahir]

Adrian it’s 05:30 am. 🤦🏻‍♂️ Still watching it though 😅🤷🏻‍♂️

[@j.burgess4459]

I reckon this might just be THE release from Watches&Wonders 2023.

[@100kmp]

This was mentioned to me in 2020. When I asked if the 323909 Blue laureus limited edition was available. Fantastic but they should have brought it out earlier.

[@austinzizzi1142]

Finally iwc. Of course they couldn’t put the iwc at 12 but they got the dial right so I’m not complaining

[@Vargadumi]

Isnt the Omega Constellation also designed by Genta?

[@CleverSmart123]

Depends on which? C-Case Constellation, yes and the redesign of the 168004

[@GuyVanderAa]

Damn gorgeous. IWC is killing it (again). Ok, I drooled on my shirt again seeing these. Whatever. 😎

[@mbottion]

I had the hint in my visit to Schauffausen that it was coming. Finally

[@oz2823]

Had to put down a deposit on the Aqua once I put it on wrist! Now gotta wait to arrive :(

[@markwatson7551]

Good review. Any micro adjustment? I’m sorely tempted although quite pricey

Is there any rationale justification for the price?

[@richardwarren2024]

Thank you for this coverage, Adrian. I love the way integrated bracelet watches look in the abstract, but never like any of them on the wrist. Not sure what it is.

[@speedwolf5212]

Brilliant watch! I do wish they would go back to using the IWC name written in cursive. That’s really my only nitpick. Looking forward to seeing some slightly smaller models in the future.

[@bobj8877]

I have a blue Mark XX and would love to add this in black or white someday!

[@gautamnevatia7659]

Did you review the mark xx? Have been on the lookout for that review!

[@Superdada]

I’ve been excited for the redesign for ages upon ages. I’m looking forward to seeing it in person.

[@j.m.4444]

Especially the wonderfull ETA Movement.

[@Superdada]

@@j.m.4444 lol. Dang, you're right. That is a bummer and a 5 day power reserve doesn't make up for that imo. "IWC manufactured 32111" threw me off.... 32xxx were all based eta apparently.

[@YoRHa_2E]

I think it looks great, particularly the aqua coloured model, I really like the dial design.

[@peterkryvonosov4566]

Adrian I’m curious how you measured 39mm, was it across just the steel bezel or the whole case including those little margins before the crown guards?

[@zZDustyRabbitZz]

2:37 IWC Schaffhausen is located in Schaffhausen, which is in the German-speaking part of Switzerland. Your and the watch- communities pronunciation of Ingenieur is also the correct German pronunciation, not the French. Yes, Ingenieur is also French for engineer, but it is also German for engineer. Small oversight.

[@ThD040]

Also for Dutch and Spain. Only difference between engineer is that Ingenieur is a protected title to use as a person.

[@peterlangton999]

I love your black shirt - where did you get it?

[@I25M]

Finally! I was so bummed when they killed the 3239 version for the generic looking version. Back to proper form!

[@aboutphotography]

IWC is in my eyes much more valuable brand then Rolex. This watch should not be compared to main stream Submariner or Aquaterra, but rather to Laureato or Polo S and the price is in that territory. This is one of the few watches designed by Gérald Genta and so it’s imo fairly priced.

[@ivanoschen]

You may be the best sales of this timepiece in 2023 so far 😂

[@Ibowers2]

Love the watch but that price is a bit nuts. I have the new Mark XX and it's amazing. The new Ingenieur has the same same movement as the Mark XX, same size but twice the price? That seems a bit much to charge just for a Genta design?

[@hoosiercoinreview6428]

With the 32000-calibre family, IWC expands its range of automatic in-house movements. For these rugged and reliable movements, and for the first time ever, IWC has used components made of silicon. The escape wheel and pallet lever are made of this incredibly wear-resistant material. A bidirectional pawl-winding system supplies the energy required by the movement. Similarly to a Pellaton automatic winding system, it winds the mainspring when the rotor is moving in either direction. Thanks to advances in movement technology, the 32000-calibre family offers a 72-hour power reserve. In addition, the long service life of the mechanical components has been increased by newly developed lubricants. This movement is manufactured by ValFleurier, the movement manufacturer owned by IWC's parent group. 32111 Calibre IWC-manufactured movement Automatic, self-winding 120 hours Power Reserve Frequency 28800.0 vph (4.0 hz) 164 Components 21 Jewels Côtes de Genève, perlage

[@leesziming3126]

Hey Adrian, great videos coming out! Just wondering if you think the price point is reasonable or fair for what it is offering? Do you think it’s trying to compete against the royal oak or nautilus or something else?

[@cskamoskva]

That is pretty cool to be fair. I like the aqua. The lug to lug is exceeds my appetite, but i reckon that's not quite as applicable a measurement with integrated bracelets... Need to try one on!