IWD Reacts To: This Esport Should Be Dead By Now

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Original Video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mH2YlYmejtakp5Ysi=1T9ueyOmFoqcetyu

[@neglection371]

Mr Editor - any chance on videos like this we can get the twitch chat's reactions too (for example like Asmongold's videos)? Thanks for uploading

[@kata4838]

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[@user-ux3jp9oo7r]

The amount of joy i have had watching league of legends throughout my life is amazing, the ups and downs... i never expected this f2p game that i played because i was a broke teenager to be such a huge part of my life. i literally grew up with league

[@oliverpetho8773]

same, dont play as much but i still watch every single game that i can

[@farrquehussein2350]

Been a great run man 🥲🥲 I wouldn’t be me without this game 😂😂 for better or for worse

[@Jon14141]

Indeed

[@katanaz7124]

Same bro

[@disturbed1734]

This made me feel old seeing all of them so young again...

[@crispybanana3198]

yeah exactly, young Bjergsen hit so hard

[@Rayon811]

RIP Zuna, what a character

[@joaogundersen1374]

Dom showing respect do DL and feeling for his situation in Worlds is immensely respectable. Can dislike his takes in recent times but the player will always deserve respect for what he has done

[@GD23581]

I was going to comment this, huge respect to him for showing DL respect

[@fra9297]

dislike his takes but DL ended up predicting better the top 6 in the MSI than Dom.

[@Dyna1One]

5:53 I just love kobe, the same exact sentence when NRG won vs g2. THE FAITHFUL. SHALL. BE. REWARDED. Truly counter logic. (Rip CLG)

[@codino97]

he played for clg, nothing better than kobe calling clg games, his msi comments are up there with joe and deman

[@andyhuynh2625]

I remember just watching the clock so I could get the fuck out of school. The moment the bus dropped me off, dashed as fast as I could to go home. Immediately queue up some league with homies in the Skype call. Get hyped watching LCS. Good times man.

[@willbezerra7416]

Dude that's such a good memory for me too lol

[@TheLpack]

lol that was me for csgo , but i remember at the time Lol Tyler 1 was banned so I started getting into league. And a friend of mine said to get league as well.

[@joaogundersen1374]

It's great to see MarkZ's career path. He seems to be actually doing stuff. Not just letting it die, but fighting with all the tools given to him to make it better

[@billyjoe8185]

Dude went from caster to saving a dying region. Bro is batmam

[@whiteflame24]

What I learned from this video was, no Sneaky no semis.

[@Darkyryus_]

Baseg

[@jakecollin5499]

Correct. Also fuck Reapered for doing Sneaky dirty

[@minimunk7]

@@jakecollin5499what did he do?

[@Warpenguin55]

That Danny guy seemed like he had talent. I'm sure he had a great career with many more titles with the support of an excellent CEO and org

[@YoSuey]

I forgot what happened. I think his family stepped in over some drama and he just left. Not sure if a team wanted him or he just didn't want the environment anymore.

[@YehNahYehAyy]

The start... And we wonder how they convinced riot that QT was "special" to dodge a ban.

[@kireeyusino6425]

the faker content at the end.... that really did it for me. what an honest guy. i like him.

[@carstenown]

Damn rip zuna, always feels really weird when esports pros die. In my head theyre all young dudes still

[@BucsFanO22]

It's not in your head, they are still young lol.

[@wormss]

For me season 3 worlds when skt won for the first time, NA got evaporated in first round. Uzi was playing Vayne with Annie support. Faker was breaking people’s brains on ap gragas (the old one with like combined 500% ap ratio). Top lane was shyvana vs renekton and aatrox was in the jungle. So cool.

[@ObiWanIsCool]

I remember Imaqtpie and Scarra talked about the Dyrus thing too years ago lol.

[@GoznerPeter]

Rip Zuna damn... that sucks.

[@BVRNERMVSIC]

I'm european but actually followed NA pretty closely (I'm a native anglophone) and man 2013-2019 was by far the best era it had. It could compete entertainment wise, had the skill level at some points (C9 runs & TL msi final). Covid pretty much broke the region.

[@Evan2768]

The video should be called “the LCS should be dead by now”, considering League is a global esport and this video only covers LCS.

[@petarpetrov1784]

So many memories in this clip. LCS used to be so hype even more hype than EU LCS back then. Staying late just to be able to watch LCS from Europe used to be so normal and enjoyable nowadays I do not even watch the playoffs sometimes. LCS used to have so many big names/personalities and the quality of the gameplay was so much better, too.

[@YourFavouriteDraugr]

From EU, loved watching the first few years of LCS. How refreshing watching C9 was, how fun all the young squads were, how good the broadcast was still at that time, how insufferable TSM was. Franchising genuinely murdered what was exciting about LoL at the time, and didn't even fix the long term monetary issues that were the reasoning for introducing Franchising. That and the perpetual decline in adaptability, increase in nepotism, and the horrendous fascination NA has with seeing active competition as a negative, have made following it completely void of any joy.

[@Erich614]

I think it's turning around. The money coming in killed what made LCS great. It was organic because it felt like the start of the first legitimate professional video game league (at least for me, I know like Starcraft & CounterStrike had popular professional leagues way before). But it wasnt "professional" in the business sense. it was kinda janky, definitely compared to the product it is now, it was almost born out of the petty rivalry between Hotshot and Regi. And both of them actually being players as well as owners on the two most popular teams was a crazy dynamic that never happens in traditional sports. And players streaming because they could make more money, but in the wild west (Riot had to tell sneaky to stop saying "welcome to my butholle" fucking lol 😆)It had personality naturally because of its organic formation. Jack worked for TSM and was like oh wait I can just do this better, Regi is ??? and still making that $$$, and C9 was born. Now the money is gone & it was one of my favorite splits in a while. The rise of Yappa feels like the early days. I don't know why, it's litterally just shit talk I guess. But I feel something changing in the LCS as a whole.

[@JohrDinh]

The real play after he leaked strats one year would have been to leak fake strats the next year, then they woulda practiced for something you weren't even gonna do...as NA I'd be trying everything I can think of at this point.

[@emilelocas5496]

As a huge C9 fan since day one, I cant help but feel that we wasted most of sneaky's career pairing him with mid supports. That C9 squad with zeyzal got to fucking semis. Imagine a good support, man. The best he ever played with was Lemon and Smoothie.

[@flavoracid]

That "early smite from Santorin".. wasn't it not about Baron healing but something like Baron fucking absolutely randomly leveled up, mid-fight, totally throwing off the Smite calculation? Something something, Danny gets a Penta? And then Riot made a statement about Baron will no longer ever Level Up if the game detects it's actively being attacked?

[@emilelocas5496]

What did the baron lvling up do? It healed the baron, gave him 100 ish hp.

[@MrBreakage]

imqtpie and kiwi bot holy shit bro, the dayssss

[@portelligabriel]

never forgiving riot for letting dash go. rip zuna. shoutout aphromoo with an afro shotcalling

[@Lotus42840]

Hope bwipo can pull something off next worlds he’s one of the few na players left who seem like they actually want to win at all costs.

[@Kallyy]

All it takes is a European in the LCS, just import all korean/chinese players and then NA might have a chance

[@YTOppa]

During the genesis/daydream section you can feel the passion NA had to make it to the top. How often the disappointment fueled the region. Now it consumes us. The faith is gone and maybe the region will never recover and get back to how it once was, but im so thankful to have experienced the genesis/daydream portion and how exciting league could really be. It was peak.

[@diegoolivas3175]

Started watching league around 2022 worlds and I feel like I missed out on the best times of league

[@wokka6554]

Its nostalgia if there is a future for lol esports we will be nostalgic about this time.

[@HogSZN]

​@@wokka6554sure but you also absolutely missed out on the peak of this game lol

[@benjam4928]

craziest thing ever to me in lcs was when jenen sneaky both got sent to the academy teams

[@goodbye6967]

UGH DOM BEING ALL LOVABLE AND HUMAN

[@cnflxx]

i love the analyst Dom but i love this version even more. Even when he got super happy when the C9 Perkz era went into quarters

[@Gremlinsbeabout]

EU here just saying that the better the LCS the better the rivalry and the level rises overall. Loved it, still love it will always love it. My Esport

[@aR0ttenBANANA]

People truly don’t know how good Dig looked during season 2.

[@bman6198]

28:11 From Faker himself: "I've been playing lot of NA solo queue when I'm around here, and it's harder than Worlds."

[@YoSuey]

It really is. Almost every game is a guaranteed 4v6.

[@DBasedAlex]

Everyone remembers the TSM loss to 2016 but honestly in 2017 they looked stronger, had an easier group, and not only did they give flash wolves their only win, but also lost a tiebreaker to misfits afterwards. Less memorable, but more disappointing

[@roboticapplesauce395]

Dom out here talking about Dig like I brig up the 2008 jets lol

[@MrCoffeejingler]

Hearing Dom call QT his boy 😭😭

[@AaronJones-kb4do]

Imagine Zeyzal as a rookie being on NA’s best worlds lineup,

[@deathcal29]

"We were gonna win worlds with this strat", strat gets told 1 time, its immediatly countered and put on the shit can xD

[@delusionaldemon84]

The most important thing for any performer/Athlete that wants to be the best, is to be OBSESED with whatever it is you're competing in. The Best isn't healthy and balanced. The Best is Passion and Obsession.

[@leonpaul6198]

"Their hopes. Their dreams. They're done." Thats crazy

[@MrBob001]

Piglet and Dyrus haunting Dom

[@MrGetownedLP]

Crazy to think how many grew up with this era of League. C9 Gauntlet, 2018 C9 worlds run, TL vs IG, soo many memories FeelsStrongMan To another 10 more years of banger series PogChamp

[@joeconnerson9773]

One of my favorite moments is doublelift saving TL from elimination

[@MrGetownedLP]

@@joeconnerson9773 CINEMA

[@chrisbigelow1690]

I still believe that S2 dignitas team was not just one of the best NA teams but genuinely a top team in the world

[@FMZown]

Azael hair meta is crazy

[@trevorsanso32]

So was the santorin baron mechanic new at that point? It hadn't already been a thing?

[@railar3797]

YO I FORGOT AZAEL HAD HAIR

[@jxstified7558]

1000% agreed with the statement of you cant try to balance playing the game professionally with an actual life and think you're going to be the best, I truly believe we have it in us here in NA to perform its just takes someone with insane drive to be the best at League something like a Michael Jordon, Lebron James, Tiger Woods, Tom Brady type who is a little crazy but just lives the game.

[@Pfuetz4]

Man I’ve been watching league for a while. Not a single game I didn’t see live was shown 😂

[@Fluffybamf]

RIP zuna

[@fiorane]

no iwd gragas hecarim highlight moment 0/10 trash video booooooooooooooo all jokes aside, nice to have a video like this, LCS really used to be something

[@aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa8128]

me as a european i loved watching lcs back in the days... every saturday night thats was lit...

[@vonwaq]

before watching the video i already know old man dom is gonna reminisce about him being on dig in s2 and being the best team and being banned in s3

[@vonwaq]

how could i forget about dyrus leaking strats

[@heehee4341]

I never watched old league, but old league, especially western league, felt so much more exciting. The only exciting pro stories now are lck like t1 or maybe g2

[@IfYouNeedAnEdge]

Lmao the music at 5:35 is an orchestral arrangement of Call Me by Blondie? Wtf

[@x2lazy2die]

theres a reason why at the highest level in every sport. they start falling apart. they pay with their bodies

[@coolb126]

Silvxs is goated, they make amazing worlds edits

[@Hawk0820]

"the loyal, the unwavering, the faithful shall be rewarded" is the 2nd best call i have ever heard

[@DBasedAlex]

Frankly all these changes come off as a bad omen. It’s analogous to when a team swaps a bunch of players out throughout a split as a Hail Mary when they’re clearly going to crash and burn.

[@EgoCarry1]

Damn this video brought back memories...

[@powerfuljones]

I came into league at s3. I did not know dom from dig season 2. I just knew him as this other guy at the curse house streaming. I grew to like saintvicious. God if i had known. I woulda been a dom fan way earlier. So sad he didn’t got to play. Error in human timeline

[@IWinniethePooh]

"Riot putting this label on you" yeah man you definitely are a victim and didn't do anything wrong.

[@ramilgarifullin3702]

I'm disappointed that they didn't include Richard's reaction to MarkZ. He flamed him and his mama, it was brutal

[@tavpros]

Richard does that to everyone so it wasn't work bringing up. He's built like a Chihuahua with even smaller genitals

[@jakecollin5499]

5:37 Holy fuck Aphro...put on his big boy support pants for that one 😮

[@KristinaBlabla]

this reminded me how much i miss quickshot casting league and how much NA doesn't know roman numerals xD

[@crispybanana3198]

24:00 nah Dom but why is he trying to do a perfect smite when the enemy jungler is dead? just smite it at 700 and chill this was on santorin

[@wilkinlow]

If only LCS content is this good.

[@Ecliptor.]

back when pros were so bad the matches were actually entertaining to watch

[@XMaxWhiteTeeth]

Dyrus leaked strats in season 2? How did that happen and who benefitted from that?

[@Xabeutt]

im from eu but i always enjoyed lcs more than eu lcs/lec, i remember watching lcs 2015 summer finals and it was super hype, same goes for streamers and idk why is that, maybe because na content is more entertaining to me and/or exotic. been watching lcs since season 4, and as a person growing up on traditional sport aka football where teams hardly if ever rebrand, seeing league teams constantly rebrand is disgusting. i know its necessary and whatever, but seeing tsm and clg vanish from the scene is unbelievable for someone who grew up knowing that teams dont just disappear after some time. they basically created NA scene, made so many memorable moments and so on, and this is just in the past. clg was the oldest league organization. imagine fnatic or g2 suddenly stop existing. imagine t1 or edg stop existing. imagine real madrid or barcelona stop existing. idk why tsm and clg disbanding hasnt come up with greater fans outrage. for me there is no lcs without these teams. to me lcs died the moment tsm and clg went to sky. hell, even back in the day i was pissed off when LMQ ceased to exist after one good season. how come less successful dignitas is still around and legendary teams are no more? teams rebranding in league is a cancer for fans. imagine rooting for one team just to find out next season they dont exist anymore. how do you build a loyalty on that? there is also problem with teams not advancing/dropping each season like in football. instead of rebranding make the shitty bottom tiers teams drop to lower league and 2nd tier good teams advance to tier 1 league. this is a wishful thinkin but even after 10 years of watching league i still cant swallow this shitty system. without teams advancing from lower leagues we wouldnt have griffin who gave us players like chovy, lehends, tarzan, or damwon who gave us canyon, beryl and showmaker. on the ending note because i derailed from lcs topic: lcs probably the only major region to ever have a girl playing on stage. (correct me if im wrong) rip remilia

[@leevimasalin2301]

I actually started watching league in season 3, so season 3-4 kinda same. Im from EU aswell, I actually loved LCS everything that was going on was great, the storylines, narratives everything it was a joy, note the word "was". I disagree with you that since season 8 or season 9 so 2018 to 2019 for you that dont know how the seasons work, (and note that i also watched EU LCS and LCS but mostly LCS), but in that time and after that time EU had grown so much bigger and the production started becoming so much better it was literally hard to watch NA. Im not talking about their international success, we all know that EU clears that hard, im talking about the production and the "new" casters they decided to get and then the import show started its like... NA at that point wasnt dead region (yet), but it was slowly going in that direction. Like after rebranding to LEC they started making songs (some are bangers), fan content, and most importantly, they stayed true to their fans in EU, nothing worse that you having to cheer for a chinese import that doesnt even know how to speak english like...? Not original NA pro who is local and you can connect with. LEC also got Caedrel which was actually huge for the scene, while LCS got the woman that we dont speak of, (blood runs thru his veins) icant plz kill me xdd. Markz is trying his best, i hope that one day in the future LCS can become what they used to be but there is a long way to go. Fans are just not interested in NA its super sad to see. EUs tier 2 league LFL, like academy league, had more viewers than the whole LCS spring split combined.. There is a long way to go but lets keep our hopes up.

[@Xabeutt]

@@leevimasalin2301 i got back to watching lec and overall league events because of caedrel, but the first person to introduce me to costreams was rekkles during 2022 worlds. i also grown fond of lec pop quizes. the content got definitely better during last years, but in terms of rivalization seeing g2 ruling EU for years now isnt very satisfying for a viewer, especially for me since im fnatic fan since season 4. watching fnatic who have been kings of europe from season 1 to season 8, to get overthroned by ocelote organization (letting caps go was the nail in the coffin) is very sad and if fnatic doesnt make some fundamental changes im worried they will get evaporated just like tsm or clg. its been 6 years since their last won split and as of today they had been bested by na team in bo5 for the first time in history, which is a very sad sign. ya i remember the infamous female host (forgot the name) making fun of doublelift vs tsm drama on live stage. but scratch that, na had super content back in earlier seasons, i still sometimes come back to NA casters vs doom bots match, or tsm vs c9 urf match. i miss those events coz they were fun as hell. even later on when na hosted this match where tyler played with phreak, it was fun too. hell, even during older seasons worlds we had famous players who hadnt qualified for worlds to be on analyst desk which was fun to watch inbetween matches, nowadays when the games end i just do anything but watch those fillers. there is a lot of stuff from early days that nowadays league broadcats could learn from. some things were super fun for viewers and got abandoned for some reason. nowadays broadcast runners need to go back in time and look for fun aspects that older league with less budget did right and fans enjoyed it. i would start off with annual lcs legends showdown or some all stars event (idk why that got abandoned too, it was fun as well) as for the future of lcs and league esports in general im not sure if things can go better. viewership is gonna go down because playerbase is getting older and as for attracting younger people to league im not sure how things are going on in that front, considering there are games like valorant, not to mention other game studios, and league is known for both toxic community and the game itself being toxic. the whole rebranding every season thing isnt helpful for establishing loyal fanbases either i think.

[@leevimasalin2301]

@@Xabeutt Omg you bring back so cool memories, also where are all the all stars events, "1v1 me bro" like we havent had a 1v1 king in the world since 2019 if im correct? Like i also said, early days of LCS was super great where is all that. And side note i feel you for the FNC G2 thing.

[@Xabeutt]

@@leevimasalin2301 from what ive read all stars diminished because of some post covid travel restrictions, viewership decline and pros wanting to have time off after exhausting season (there were instances of some players like rekkles giving up his spot for someone else) which is understandable but the event was fun and its sad that its no longer around. i mean league broadcasts and events have suffered over the years especially due to covid. worlds 2018 finals arena had capacity of 50k and last years finals held only 17k. and idk about others but i dont watch any league tournaments these days without costreams - i feel like the meta is too boring to watch, having the same exact champions every game isnt fun to watch for me without fun commentary of caedrel or other costreamers. ksante alone had like 70% presence in msi, not to mention ranged top laners, lane swaps and all that unfun bullshit. lpl this split is flirting with fearless draft which should make the games less bombarded by the same exact champions every game. this is 100% up to riot to make the meta non stale and therefor more enjoyable to watch. msi this year got WAY more interesting in quarter to semi finals when players started pulling off picks like karthus, nida. everyone barfs when they see lucian nami for the 2302930 time. remember back till season 5 or 6 we had IEM tournament in february. it was a chance for na teams like tsm to finally be successful on international stage. there wouldnt be xpeke backdoor without iem tournament. even faker legendary zed vs zed outplay came to life because lck back in the day had a rule that game 5 would be a blind pick. there was some kind of magic to older league where everything wasnt cooped into regional leagues, msi and worlds for all year long. all stars, rift rivals, iems, dream hacks. etc those things sadly wont come back.

[@TOGtheWizard]

They get baron, win the game, finish first in the group, get c9 in quarters, get h2k in semis and then they lose to skt in the final of worlds

[@lucasllz5670]

that jesus dyrus comment killed me

[@TigeruSpear]

Faker interview was so troll haha

[@nosned11]

THE PIE

[@flameofthegame]

The fans are not obligated to cheer for them teams ,but not be delusional ,fans would be more positive if the region would actually show glimpses that they could compete ,which they do but only vs other western teams (And i say that as an EU fan ) .

[@kypac99]

why was Dom banned from lol? is there a video?

[@parkscarlett8586]

He was just a toxic asshole back then.

[@iamkailong]

s6 is such a sad season. TSM clg c9 were so good that season, they literally can beat some chinese team and even challenge lck teams a bit. I could see they going to semi easy.

[@bryantbravo9363]

Albus Nox Luna we’re super fun to watch during Worlds that year

[@shesuchi]

Jeeeez that react face in the thumbnail... baddd

[@daandepauw5252]

3:35 sjokz carrying western league for over 10 years.

[@alexanderbjorklund6188]

3:26 its not that crazy, bro was legit eating him self to death

[@MrPierdolification]

g2 trick tried the trick2g strat? :D

[@Endslikecrazy]

So what about this video explains why league esports should be dead? This just looked like a nostalgia trip

[@mister_snoogles9031]

its bait, the title is misleading on purpose to make you watch a hype video lol. still a good video

[@Endslikecrazy]

@@mister_snoogles9031 yeah not wrong, i watched most of it but mostly to see doms reactions to things i guess

[@Spinexus]

I watched that shit live. When even EU was watching LCS.

[@djbcubed]

I thought I was just getting senile like Dom...but holy shit it is so much easier to watch clips from old league. People aren't instantly dying to 2 abilities. There is actual trading and posturing back and forth in the middle of a teamfight. Surely we will never go back because "chinese players like one-shots", but holy shit this looks so much more strategic and methodical in the gameplay.

[@Bedardo12]

Funny how much Riv just disappeared one day.

[@wow664112]

TBF LPL will also going to the same downward spiral if it weren't for 2018 the year of LPL happen

[@x2lazy2die]

i mean moist has an esports team so it would only make sense that he'd atleast know OF the LCS since it was 1 of the first.

[@Bai_Su_Zhen]

13:10 I honestly expected you to be a dick about it but good job

[@takumifujiwara300]

24:00 bruh this sht ended his career xd

[@obiohaz6023]

dom should be glad riot didnt lay the hammer down his throat back in the day lmao

[@mikewallace9292]

Bring back dash pleeeaassseeeeee man. We need him

[@Hamtaijin-ud2li]

League just isn’t the same without Svenskeren

[@4x4r974]

This youtuber dropped an uplifting LCS viewed which was generally positively received only for Riot to dissolve the LCS within 7 days 💀

[@albertgalofre]

the good old days

[@settleflame1]

community making a better hype video then riot themselves lol

[@qbenedetti]

goddamnit i miss dash

[@kylecastro2664]

So just found out Zuna passed away wtf?

[@allainangcao28]

Old LCS was the League of Homies. But we could never win shit... 😂

[@monsterkibe]

It seems like americans are blind to why their league died, is so damn right on your faces, Brazil does poorly every year, and yet they have the third, sometimes second biggest viewership between all leagues, because even tho we import koreans and europeans to our league, the emotion and connection to our pro players and the effort to introduce and adapt the import to our culture, just so the crowd can enjoy every person that's playing that league, NA opened their wallets and said ''let's win worlds with a bunch of well succeeded renowned players'' after that didn't happen at all, NA was filled with players that no one cared about, that didn't perform the way they did when they were in their leagues, not to mention the astronomical salaries that those players receive, so, now, people don't care about the players, NA never again achieve any kind of success, and all these millionaires, org owners are splashing themselves on the ground like a magikarp, completely lost on how that ever happened, GJ NA

[@TacoMahstah]

100% on putting everything into these things to be the best. Look at Faker. Dude has no personality, no hobbies. He likes water, reading, and LoL.