IZ*ONE | A Story of IZ*ONE - The Last Produce Group | REACTION | What an experience this was!!

[@isitbees]

The reason these groups have such a short contract is because the whole point of the companies sending their trainees is that the winners are expected to come back to their agencies and bring an already existing fan base to support them in whatever group their company plans to debut them

[@jamesrawlins735]

Think if Wanna One didn't have to break up - I would say they would still be top boy group even today

[@IvanOfficial01]

As a super diehard WIZ*ONE, I can't stress enough how badly we were robbed of so much precious time with the girls because of the voting scandal and COVID. I think that's why many WIZ*ONES still to this day wish for them to be one again.

[@JohannaOviedoBeauty]

Yes, also they robbed our time with Ka Eun (Final ranking #5) and Cho Won (Final ranking #6), but it's not the girls fault.

[@ngasalaja2839]

​@@JohannaOviedoBeautythey literally destroy these girl's dream even until now i can't forgive them i'm so sorry

[@ovicqsxz5305]

​@@JohannaOviedoBeauty nah iz*one rigged lineup is fine as is, wouldn't want any of them replaced

[@anemomelyn6297]

@@ovicqsxz5305 yeah even tho its rigged,Its so much better and they are great as a group

[@ovicqsxz5305]

@@anemomelyn6297 and chaewon is one of the candidates most likely to have been rigged in, imagine if we lost her to nugudom 😭

[@whodis9465]

IZ*ONE didn't disband after the controversy because they have been prepared for the next comeback (BLOOM*IZ/Fiesta) and even had already pre-recorded several stages for the comeback before the controversy raised. In another sense, the audience that attended the pre-recording already heard the upcoming songs. So the preparations for the comeback were complete.

[@blaqkswan]

and also x1 still had not signed their contract as a group while iz*one already had. breaking a contract is a shit ton of work, it was easier for them to disband x1.

[@playmaker781]

Izone was the strongest and most powerful girl group in korea, if they hadn't broken... they would have devoured everything

[@samueljang1204]

I miss IZONE's unique vibe and I still remember their beautiful friendship

[@s-a8336]

no matter what anyone says, 12*ONE forever in my heart.

[@monomono_]

the most legendary k-pop girl group i always miss IZONE

[@evanwang1203]

From a business standpoint iz*one did make a ton of money but the money was split between the companies of the trainees AND the company that iz*one as a group was under. They’ll obviously make more money if they’re the only ones in control of the trainees. For example wonyoung and yujin are making much more money for starship in IVE compared to their time in iz*one

[@fluffydeath9252]

The most important factor in this: *Starship* is making more money off of Yujin and Wonyoung, with IVE than they did and would have if they extended their contract with IZ*One. Which is why it was understood that Starship was most likely the largest stumbling block to extension.

[@hallooos7585]

@@fluffydeath9252 This makes me so mad for some reason

[@bh1746]

​@fluffy death 🙄 that does not comport with reality. By the end of Izone's contract, almost no one except CJ was making money from Izone b/c of COVID. Considering how fast most of the members came back (in Chaewon's case, deal w/ Hybe), that means every company was already knees deep in pursuing post-izone ventures by the time extension was being floated. The fans propagating rumors that Starship was the holdout has led to Wonyoung and Yujin getting threats & so-called fans publicly wishing that their careers will go nowhere, so. You know. It's good that the rumor is still alive and kicking, I guess.

[@fluffydeath9252]

​@@bh1746 Take a long hard look at what you wrote in the first paragraph and try and figure out what's contradictory and illogical. You have some basic failures in information relaying. In several cases you are comparing a Orange Tree. TO an Entire Apple orchard. 1) CJ itself is a massive corporation with many subsidiaries 2) CJ EnM is also massive subsiaries with many entertainment companies underneath. So any one company that underperforms can be propped up by many others, which includes Cable broadcast networks like TvN. In fact unless you have access to any one of those individual companies earning reports you have absolutely no idea how much any one of those subsidiary music companies are doing, nor what the exact break down of those financials and the causes are. THe Apple Orchard is did just fine, because it is built to do just fine regardless of the crisis thrown at it. 3) WM, Starship (itself a subsidiary company of KakaoM so it answers to a higher authority, and this is important), Yuehua, the Orange trees, are smaller individual entities, without TV Stations to prop up the financials, so of course something like Covid is going to make them financially falter. 4) You are suggesting that Companies are willing to kill the golden goose that are laying small eggs, then they are all going to have to wait before those same geese are going to lay eggs dedicated them. You're hilarious. 5) there is a reason IVE debuted the same year IZONE disbanded. ) Starship was ready to go. )Starship needed to be ready to go. If Covid was so much of a factor IVE would not have had the timing and schedule that you are trying to give it the credit for. 6) there is a reason Woolim let Chaewon go (the details of that transaction are unknown. Idol contracts can be sold between companies FYI), and debuted Eunbi solo. WM's sale to RBW is the entire explanation of Chaeyeon's fate. Your second paragraph. well. Fans will be fans. Fucking idiots. Fans in general, are the ones who blamed the members of Izone and X1 for MNET's shenanigans during produce. And I will treat it as such. The consequences of Starships actions are not Wonyoung and Yujin's responsibility to bare, not is it particularly relevant.

[@hipployta]

@@fluffydeath9252 11 out of 12 were the stumbling blocks. 7 had groups already or being prepared, 3 had solos or roles ready very quickly, 2 had zero interest in being idols...only Chaeyeon was kind of floating around

[@sleepyfawngirl]

very random fun fact: gidle's soyeon was on produce 101! she ranked 20th in the final episode, i believe

[@LucasWIZONE]

It was the best time of my life, watching the show, see them debuting, go through everything with them, good and bad and in the end after disbanding, joined the PUP project, it is a bummer, because of one company we couldnt get atleast the K-idols to stay together (as the japanese members needed to graduate etc from akb48 groups) but still, I'm happy to keep following them after they disbanded and went into other groups/solo projects. It's cliché and cringe to say but, they literally saved me from depression at the darkest time of my life after switching countries because of my parents had no work/money. Now I'm doing well and my family too. And my motivation to keep going is: I want to grow old watching them and supporting all the members as much as I can. So.. Thank you IZ*ONE and I hope you enjoy them even if they are not active anymore as a group!

[@GekiRena]

You were asking about why IZ*ONE continued and X1 disbanded, The reason for that is IZ*ONE themselves and the WIZ*ONES (iz*one fans). As a fan throughout the entire journey, I had witnessed what happened to the fandom when the MNET scandal broke out, Everyone else was dropping iz*one, shows were cancelled and haters were blaming the girls when they are totally innocent, the ones who are guilty are the people working behind the scenes, not them. It came to a point they were so hated we could only do one thing we can and that is to show our never-ending love and support. Fans started to trend hashtags on twitter EVERY SINGLE DAY until they were able to come back for 3 months... It was what we call a blackout bec. they stopped all social media interactions and we have not heard from any of the girls for months, despite it all, fans still trended hashtags hoping the girls will see our messages of love and support. Now onto the side of IZ*ONE, again they were banned to say anything about the scandal and post anything. But what we do know based on the reports was that, Both managements handling X1 and IZ*ONE had a meeting of their own. All members were asked if they want to continue the group or not. X1 members decided not to continue with the group, especially since they were just a group who just debuted and only had 1 album out. IZ*ONE had already been in the industry for more than a year, they had a solid fanbase and bond as a group already. IZ*ONE members themselves decided to continue on with the group and that's how they were able to have a comeback with BLOOM*IZ on February 2020, 3 months after the scandal broke out. IZ*ONE wanted to comeback for the fans who were waiting for them, during that time, it did feel like there was no one on our side, IZ*ONE only had WIZ*ONES, and WIZ*ONES only had IZ*ONE. And they came back with a BANG! I dare say that BLOOM*IZ is probably the best album of 2020. It has been praised by experts in the entertainment industry as well.

[@mikea2159]

IZ*One has one of the best whole solid core of fanbase WIZone ...as a wizone upto this day i still cant believe that we can make them continue as a group if they want to. But they need to go on their separate ways...but we never know what the future mught hold and suprises it may gave us....wizone!!! izone!!! Fighting!!

[@iamBerfy]

As a fellow WIZ*ONE i cried at the end when they saying their final goodbye. It break my heart 💔

[@ml_t_iw8704]

oh god i remember when i watched both days of their last concert. was a fun and happy time until the end when they said their goodbyes. absolutely sobbing. only iz*one would make me tear up. sad to see them go but happy they're all finding success after going their separate ways. it's comforting to know they keep in contact with each other and make efforts to hang out. just miss seeing them on screen together. also, yes the final lineup was rigged, but they're chemistry was out of this world. not to justify the producers crime, but maybe they were on to something. i couldn't imagine iz*one without any one of their 12 members.

[@CRAYONweiwen]

Destiny

[@avinssi_]

I remember watching their last online concert and I'm actually in despair that time. I was hoping that they were extending their contract but they're not. Now that I'm watching it again makes me feel sad and happy at the same time because they're in the right track right now. Everyone is happy with what they have right now. Doing solos, re-debut, acting and etc. IZ*ONE is my ultimate kpop group of all time and it will never be change. Even though they disbanded I still support them wherever they are right now. I miss them so much

[@kydeon8893]

To clarify your doubts about the "exipiring date" of the groups. Basically the contract comes from an agreement from multiple companies. So to be fair each member's company has an interest in bringing back their idol to gain popularity and of course money from all the single members fans who will follow them. Great examples would be Chungha, Sejeong and Somi from Produce 101 and all members from Wanna One.

[@ky9999]

I remembered during the hiatus, wizones trended an IZONE related hashtag every single day, and from what sakura said, that is one of the reasons izone can still go on as a group. Wizones went from full of akgaes to extremely united at that point

[@tuemestay282]

Since the winning members are from different companies, the point is that they promote in the winning group and after the contract ends, the hope is they bring the popularity and fanbase they’ve garnered to the group that the company they’re signed with, either in a new group the company forms or as a soloist. Essentially, it’s hard to keep the group going if the members themselves are from different companies with different goals and plans for their artists. This is also the reason why X1 disbanded I think. The companies of the members had disagreements and decided to just pull the plug on the group.

[@mmmk6793]

they were also much newer so ig less risks too

[@orionlionheart9449]

The thing with a temporary group is that it allows unknown trainees to get more fans and become famous. Without Iz*One, most of the Iz*One members wouldn't be where they are today. Or even some trainees that lost in the Produce shows, they gathered fans and built themselves an image. It was a way of showing themselves to the world, bring the attention to maybe future kpop stars like Sakura, Wonyong, Somi, Chungha, etc. And they didn't extend their contract because the members were from different companies. I mean, look at IVE. Starship would NEVER have wanted to let Yujin and Wonyong in a huge group and share the profits with other companies. Now, in Ive, only Starship earn money. So it was also a marketing plan to send their trainees on a popular show. So that when they disband they can form a group with the members that are already very popular and have bigger profit. Just like Ive and Le Sserafim. Or Cravity with Hyeongjun and Minhee.

[@yu-lb8py]

Of course, it makes sense and make a lot of sense because imagine no group is gonna be on the top forever, and how much money offense going to spend for their favorite group that about to disband. It’s all for the money. And the companies getting their idol back and form a new group to continuing make money.

[@haydar1310]

you should listen to their all their discography and also the bside stages , im with them since day 1 and it’s so remarkable youth for me , im totally growing up with them , slow journey and with*one will be the most saddest song from them ☹️

[@luwees]

From what I've heard. Before April of 2021 (the disbandment of IZ*ONE) Wiz*Ones (IZ*ONE's fandom) made a petition and raised nearly about 2Million USD to Parallel Universe Project in hopes of still keeping the group from disbanding. Since all MNET Produce Groups were really only set to be temporary, regardless of the past produce groups including IZ*ONE were all really successful in each of their eras, they were set to disband either way which is sad for the fans. ++ the saddest part is that I started to stan/know about iz*one during their disbandment month on April of 2021 😭😭😭😭

[@edh7812]

Izone have many stories, behind stories. They were the most loved girl group, at least in Korea, and the most hated girl group at the same time. The broadcaster was wrong, but there were many people who blamed the members. But on the contrary, there were many people who supported the members. That became the background that made them come back, and at the same time it was the cause that made them stop. Most of them are engaged in other groups or individual activities, and many music critics evaluate IZ*ONE as one of the backgrounds that made the current girl group revival. I was able to remember IZ*ONE through your reactions. Thank you. Please give more reactions to IZ*ONE in the future.

[@mikea2159]

They gave way for the blossoming of 4 gen girl groups

[@joons8744]

thank you for your interest in iz*one. they are my first and last female kpop group that i stan. i miss them so much.

[@xiaofeixie5353]

This kind of groups has time limitation because all the members have signed different contracts with their original companies before they went to the competition and it's hard to get them aligned with a new company. X1 was supposed to have a 5-year contract together after the show but that never got completed.

[@skycoquia8876]

Wow you really release it on the day before the disbandment. So much tear at the moment 😢

[@gragalakaisel1477]

the controversial happened. and after a few months. they came back with bloom*iz (Fiesta) and still dominate and would become the record holder of the first week album sales on hanteo for girlgroup with 300k+ the second is Twice with 154k and honestly after that happened. That actually felt like it evolved the whole kpop community. other fandoms started bulk pre-ordering their fave group's comeback album. It's like it created a competition for the first week album sales. And that is even after the controversy. That's just how powerful IZ*ONE is. People argue that other members of the group shouldn't be in it but honestly for the fans. The 12 members that made it probably is the best 12 contestant. if one of the 12 is missing. the atmosphere, the vibe and the chemistry would probably be not there.

[@sakura_sake7459]

Why did I decided to watch this again instead of going to sleep? Now I'm crying 3 Am in the morning😭. I just can't help but shed tears everytime I see them crying on their last online concert😭

[@rangecutie]

I absolutely love your "smile today" message at the beginning of every video....fr, after a stressful day, it really makes day💓💓💓

[@rjkpop]

That makes me happy! 🤗💙

[@2000seoulsonyosound]

IZ*ONE was really a perfect group, i don't care there was voting manipulation, all the members belonged in the group and with each other. They should've extended their contract to 7 years

[@gowonlesbic.6514]

I miss izone every single day

[@sunghaneul]

I hate that I’m such a sucker for temporary groups coming out from survival shows 😭 IOI was one of my favourite girl groups, Wanna One, still to this day, remains as my ultest ult group EVER and I stanned IZ*ONE like it was my religion. Also watching their content and supporting them was a coping mechanism for Wanna One’s end of contract & X1’s disbandment. I remember thinking of quitting kpop after IZ*ONE the literal last produce group disbanded. I still cannot listen to any of these 4 groups’ songs without bawling over the fact they’re gone now. The way I teared up rn when I heard the snippet of X1’s “Flash” they were only active for a few months but they’d made several records during the time they debut. At the time of their formation, their ig acc hit 1M in 13 days breaking the record for the fastest kpop boy group hitting 1M followers, their debut song Flash, won 11 music show wins (which is a huge feat for a debut song). They also still hold the record for the fastest boy group debut song to hit 100M (334 days) I miss them all so dearly 😭 and while I didn’t involve myself with gp999 or Kep1er as much, I ended up becoming too emotionally attached and invested with ZB1 now, the boy group from Boys Planet. I’m so done 😭 actually gonna quit kpop after they disband in 2.5 yrs I’ve committed enough I think

[@un1te_4_music]

My brain just read Nako's full name as Nabuki Yako 😂😅 My anxiety about them disbanding during the controversy was very suffocating and I got relief when news articles said that IZ*ONE would continue.

[@sentient_haze7397]

The temporary contacts are crazy, and when you look at business side it’s pretty dehumanizing 😭. As a wiz*one, there was a lot that I didn’t understand about iz*one’s disbandment when it happened since they had so much success. Unfortunately, many companies view idols like assets with their “interest rates” being growing popularity. Many companies join these shows so that after disbandment they can capitalize on the popularity of the members who already debuted without having to split profits and compromise with other agencies…

[@benji0099]

*all companies. thats the whole point of these temporary groups (from a business perspective). the reason companies agree to have their trainees debut in a temporary group is to have them gain popularity, which they can then bring back to their company and redebut.

[@thehannahroboto]

as many others have said, all the trainees come from different companies. from the companies pov their main goal in sending trainees to these shows is for them to debut, promote in that temporary group and then come back to their company with all this new fame and attention. for example, starship had wonyoung and yujin in izone, and then when they came back they debuted ive. the group wouldn't be nearly as successful without the names wonyoung and yujin attached. now starship is raking in all the profits from having two izone members. the reason why x1 disbanded and izone didn't is simply that the companies came to those agreements. i remember at the time reading news articles about all these different companies coming together for meetings to discuss what to do with these groups futures. x1's members agencies all decided to disband, while izones companies smartly decided that izone as a group was already well established, so all agreed to let them finish out their contracts. izone's agencies did discuss contract extension, but rumor has it starship was the holdout who wouldn't agree to extend it. they wanted wonyoung and yujin back asap.

[@kimiya1509]

as a wiz*one, we all literally demanded an extension of the contract that time due to the precious time that was robbed because of the controversy and pandemic 😢 I never even get to see them live 😭 I miss them a lot as a group but I'm glad they're all doing so well in right now ❤

[@simplyunderrated8378]

So IZ*ONE did. attempt to resign for their contract to be longer but all the companies of the individual girls didn’t all agree because they had plans already ready for them when they disband. That’s why these groups are temporary. Because their companies want them back after their small timed popularity to make their next group/soloist the next big thing.

[@Roman-vl1fy]

They were actually almost a permanent group! The fan had made an attempt to contact to extend their contract, and as long as all companies agreed there would’ve been no problem of them continuing. They got pretty far and most companies agreed but 2 companies (Starship and Yueheua I think, Wonyoung, Yujin and Yenas companies) did not accept them proposals leaving them to just disband. It’s sad but at the end of the day, these companies want their money :(

[@hazwanhakkem3450]

Watched this a bunch of time but still cried my eyes out 😭😭😭 will forever be wiz*one ❤

[@nasserabdulla6609]

thanks for reacting to izone

[@jjoyuli]

Yup,still feeling the sobbing and tears tht fall when i watch One The Story😢

[@jelo.youtube]

prolly the best docu for iz*one out there, but this isn’t a guide istg group guide shouldn’t make you cry😭

[@fromiizone]

All the other comments already answered almost all the questions so I just wanna say that your iz*one reaction journey has been a blessing for me so far and something I wait for every week! Can't wait for you to potentially listen to their albums.

[@Domjiw_divetriplesEnnve]

The competition for small-mid size company in Korea is so hard... This kind of reality show help them to promote their trainees... The purposed of the temporary group is so their trainees can gain support when they really debuted with their company... It's sad reality...

[@chaemazing0111]

Izone and wizone bond is super close During hiatus everyday we make # until they come back. Izone is one of the reasons why I'm into kpop now. .and watching this video makes me cry....

[@lurica5566]

Izone Journey is a Rollercoaster with some rainbows and butterflies. ❤

[@vedantkakade7358]

As a wiz*one i am happy now cause my Girl's future is safe . And they are now promoting as a soloist (eunbi, yena,chae & yuri) and some have debuted in the groups (IVE & lesserafim) . Even in think nako and hatomi are going to participate in Queendom puzzle. Minju and haewon as actress. So as a wiz*one I am happy.

[@garyr.31]

Nako and Hitomi were confirmed not to be in Queendom Puzzle already

[@SS_2022]

@@garyr.31 nako want to act so she stop her idol career. and Hitomi is making good changes on AKB48 and after her comeback on akb48, it also help the akb48 look and focus on there performance. she became the dance leader there (sort of?). and she center on 2 of there songs

[@Zoinkx]

I totally get you with not wanting to watch these shows because of the stress and emotions. When IVE debuted I wanted to know Yujin and Wonyoung's story through Produce 48 so I watched it, and I got attached to so many of the girls and weeping at all the eliminations! I didn't want to spoil myself listening to IZ*ONE songs before I watched the show so I didn't know who was going to make it!

[@wellzord]

It's worth remembering that IZ*ONE was formed with girls from different companies and negotiating with each of them wouldn't be easy as the profits would have to be shared, besides there were rumors that some companies were already planning a new group or solo career. WIZ*ONE tried to extend their contract for at least a year, as they didn't have a chance to present their latest releases to the public due to COVID, but unfortunately it didn't work out. It's worth remembering that at the time of the crisis, WIZ*ONE was always by IZ*ONE's side, even when many turned their backs on them, to the point where the news came out that it was one of the points for their comeback, with the sale of the Bloom*IZ album as proof. To be honest, I'm happy that everyone moved on, but for me IZ*ONE will be forever and I keep wondering, "Was it worth it?".

[@caraharrison5184]

I am SOBBING. I miss them so much.

[@dzakyfandy6597]

FYI, X1 wasn't signed their contract at that very moment, while the 2,5 year contract for IZ*ONE signed far before the scandal, that's why they can still promote as a group.

[@silverrain824]

to answer your question in 24:55 , izone already had contract signed to both their kr and jp agency meanwhile x1 still hasnt. When that controversy happened, izone is on their way to their 2nd year as a group meanwhile x1 was still months fresh to their announced debut

[@wonsandonly]

as someone who recently got to know of iz*one through le sserafim and ive this made me tear up

[@markedwardcantina1591]

Hipe you could react to PD48 Concept Evaluation performances, you'll love the songs btw

[@haeyeon1488]

I Stan them since the show and I was really really get depressed when they disband... they are my fave all the time I love them ❤

[@oliiiolio]

Kinda sad to think about the fact that Iz*One might (would?) have had one more comeback. We had the flower trilogy Color*Iz, Heart*Iz, Bloom*Iz (three Iz) but only two "Ones" (Oneiric Diary and One-Reeler)

[@metamon2704]

As other people have said, all the members were form different companies and were basically 'on loan', as an example the girls from Japan didn't leave their groups and they all re-joined when IZ*ONE was over. I agree temporary groups is a dumb concept BUT in Korea it's pretty much always the case indirectly since the members are on time limited contracts, in fact that is why GFRIEND was disbanded, they couldn't agree to a new contract with Source Music so basically they disbanded when their contract expired (fuck Source Music btw.) Btw. there were pretty serious attempts to make IZ*ONE 'permanent' but ultimately Starship wouldn't agree.

[@handyhandyman]

IZ*ONE’s tenure in K-Pop, albeit short, undeniably is/was a wonder. Rigging or not, you can’t deny their power at their peak! Sales, hits, records, brand endorsements they literally have it all lmao As a long time AKB48Group fans, my takeaway from the whole process was despite their shortcomings, all the Japanese members incl. Sakura, Nako and Hitomi realized their worth. Their fans (when treated right) will be right THERE with them, they know they can go places, and they knew there’s entirely new things to market their talents. I miss IZ*ONE, but as iconic as they were, I’m also thankful for their disbandment. Truly a leader of 4th gen and its spawns of franchises (IVE, Le Sserafim, the solos, the centers of 48Groups) lol

[@adroX17]

M-net shows are more about gaining exposure for artists and trainees rather than looking forward to the final group. Only a small percentage of the trainees will make the final group, but people will remember a trainee who didn't win once they make their debut later like in Everglow or Lightsum. Additionally, even if the final group is successful (which isn't guaranteed), you're still having to split the money between Swing and Off the Record Entertainment in Korea and AKS in Japan (Iz*One's management companies) along with a slice for each of the members' individual companies - Woolim, EMI, 8D Creative, Yuehua, WM, Urban Works, Kings Records, Stone Music, and Starship.

[@helloitsayaa]

companies send their trainees to debut there so they can get famous enough for the individual companies to launch their own groups after. for example, starship had yujin and wonyoung, so when they redebuted as ive, theres already a solid fanbase behind them.

[@mikea2159]

The reason behind the disbanding is becoz some of the members have to debut on their own respective company....(wonyoung and yujin on IVE ) and (Chaewon for lesserafim) they already have team members waiting for them to debut....but the for the other members they have their solo careers....exp sakura choose to graduate from AKB48 to pursue being an idol in korea...thus she was absorb by Chaewons company and eventualy joined lesserafim...to be quite frank its a marketing strategy...the fandom that they have garnered with IZone will surely support the groups formed after IZone...but for the information of other "wizone" the fandom of Izone...raised fund for izone to continue....and have one more album but it didnt became a reality as other members already have their schedule set..But precious things are ment to be cherish as they take their own separate ways they became successful with the path they have chosen

[@Willows201]

The point of the show is to give exposure to trainees to debut in a project group for them to later to return back to their own companies . They then can debut in a new group (or solo) that benefits from their popularity being brought into the new group and whose profit goes directly into that company without having to split with the other companies. Even still, I wish we got more time with Iz*one, they were my ults.

[@bb4251]

X1 disbanded bc not all of the companies agreed to extend the contract. If they didn’t disband x1 would go on for 5 more years. The boys would’ve been more popular if they extended the contact but certain companies thought the scandal would ruin the group and wanted to debut the boys into their own companies to make more profit. With a group like x1, profit from album sales gets divided into each company so having the boys disband would mean greater profit for each company

[@unorthodox2032]

the way this makes sense but then they had to take in account that x1 was literally UNDER FUCKING FIRE but EVERYONE WANTED THEM BACK. they didn't even have a YEAR to grow a fanbase. only THREE months before they went in hiatus for TWO months. "greater profit" but then they literally got NO profit since everyone fell into nugudom after that. they're the worst decision makers ever and i will forever be bitter.. if only they let the X1 members voice their concerns and allow them into the meeting

[@jaejjangie]

thanks for reacting to this! reminiscing everything and walking back to thes memories made me emotional again but im happy for all of the members and they are all doing great in their own element now! 🫶

[@pencil0126]

Produce series in Korea ended because of the controversy but there are still Produce shows in China and Japan (Produce 101 Japan Season 3 would start soon).. And now in Korea they have Girls Planet and Boys Planet and whatever would be next... The groups created by Produce in Korea (IOI, Wanna One, IZ*ONE, X1) were temporary because the trainees were from different agencies.. that's why when Produce 101 Japan Season 1 started, their requirements specified that trainees should be not a part of any agency.. that's why groups from Produce 101 Japan (JO1 and INI) became permanent groups..

[@onodakun456]

the timing for this reaction tho tomorrow is exactly 2 years since they disbanded and i miss them even more

[@juanito2012]

i love that video so much i cry

[@phyllis5985]

24:18 because they came from different companies put their trainees to join the show. They were got chance to show up in the TV and get some fan base. The top 12 girls could formed up 2.5 years to gain fan base in IZ*ONE and back to their original company to continue their contract.

[@bonzina]

They are all trainees from different companies, while they are promoting as izone the revenue they generate goes mostly to the company producing the temporary group rather than their own label. The labels basically allow their trainees to participate in the hope that the popularity they grow in the temporary group will follow them when they redebut in their permanent group at the label and thus make them more money in the long run. As for X1, I think the individual labels decided that continuing with the project group would not increase the trainees' popularity enough to be worthwhile as they were the face of the scandal and hadn't yet had a chance to build a fanbase unlike fromis_9 and izone who were more established. Considering the mixed success of the various post-X1 groups I think they miscalculated unfortunately.

[@unorthodox2032]

ik im super late but man oh man i wished x1's fate to be different... like these boys.. my WOODZ... deserved the absolute best they were going to be the leading 4th gen bg... oh how i could turn back time and stop them from disbanding. the thing is, the general public didn't even want x1 to disband. x1 was loved EVERYWHERE, even if they were 'manipulated'. even the korean gp started to defend them after some time because they wanted the best for the boys. a week before the disbandment news (dec 31st 2019), they put out a statement saying X1 would resume activities and continue with their winter album. however, a week later (jan 6th 2020) they said they'll hold a meeting in which they'll decide the fate... and it broke peoples hearts. the way the x1 members didnt even KNOW about their disbandment until the WHOLE WORLD knew. that's how unplanned it was. they didn't allow the members to join into the discussion (which was such a bad thing, im sure x1 would've talked them out of this). 7 out of 9 of the companies agreed to let them stay but fuckass starship n woolim said no (haha.. ironic considering they were the ones punished for the voting scandal). i WISH X1 COULD COME BACK

[@blank1795]

They are also the group that broke the produce curse since all the members are pretty successful after the group disbanded.

[@Chi_Ch1]

Izone had already been active for a year and had way more music, a more solid fanbase etc. Meanwhile X1 had just debuted when the controversy saw a head and when into hiatus just weeks after debut so they could be disbanded easier. Plus the rigging controversy and proof was strongest with X1 so if mnet had kept the group going knets would have been pissed and the boys would have endured so much hate, been boycotted etc. It was just safer for the companies involved to pull their trainees out of the group. And it was a sort of small justice for the trainees that got their rightful spot in the group ripped away from them cause of this.

[@anetasz7759]

I honestly understand why some companies might not agree to extend the contract for their trainee to stay in a temporary group. Let's say a memeber from a smaller company becomes the most popular member - of course the small company would want them back to build of of their fame and take all the money, not just a portion (it's an investment to send your trainee to show like produce, even when your trainee don't debut, they might still gain some audience like Sheon who was in Girlsplanet999 and then debuted in Billlie) also, Whenever I feel sad about Iz*one disbandment I tell myself that if they didn't disband I wouldn't have amazing music from groups like IVE, Le Sserafim or solo songs from Yena or Eunbi

[@TeeJonghui-hg3fy]

I still remember fiesta first comeback all their leg are bruised

[@ovicqsxz5305]

boys planet and the previous one, girls planet 999 are continuations of the produce series by mnet actually!! both kep1er and zb1 have 2.5 yrs contract like iz*one the difference is that there's now a disclaimer with the votes being monitored by the gov't, and it's now free and includes global fans as well (compared to the produce votes being korean only and costed money to vote)

[@gowonlesbic.6514]

I cried all over again

[@redhood6199]

glad you react to this story❤

[@violet7092]

Yes, Mnet still does survival shows, but the ‘Produce’ shows appreciation no more so it’s instead similar shows with a different name (Boys/Girls Planet)

[@riko3072]

Not me sobbing hysterically throughout the last part of the video

[@fin_alinea]

For me, limited groups exist because of the compromise between cj and other agencies. They would never let their investment (aka popular trainees) go not to share profits with other agencies.

[@zeenadi3715]

Sakura and Chaewon are in Le Sserafim now! Hope you check out their upcoming comeback Unforgiven next week! ❤

[@3riyanto]

24:52 as much I remember X1 member agencies have withdrawn the contract because of the backlash and social judgement to the member and the group, but Iz*one member agencies didn't. They put everything in it. They take the risk.

[@pingpong6461]

when the scandal happened x1 was already promoting for 2 months as a group, during their promotions that time a contract between them and mnet was not on the table yet coz like they have to reach 4 months to officially sign their 5 years contract, they were under monitoring I think. unlike with izone the girls had already signed a contract both in kr and jpn labels. if mnet were to disband them they probably gonna face the jpn label pay them a large sum of money for breaking the contract

[@мину-й6т]

The best girlgroup ever i stan

[@skysaber23]

been waiting for IZONE content!! 😍

[@pinkiepiereincarnate2291]

I heavily relate to your points about boys planet because I barely looked into that show, and I still got my feelings hurt by who the final lineup was😂

[@whitemilky7366]

U must hear all the song of izone, even b-side is amazing song😭

[@kreisaru02]

We had to trend hashtags on twitter and websites everyday for more than a month during the manipulation scandal in order to bring the group back and it worked. We thought it would be like that for contract extension too but companies are greedy and wants their popular trainee to come back asap so they disbanded. This is what I recall tho, I may be wrong.

[@gorgeouspasin1721]

one of my all-time favorite girl group

[@martinestrada767]

BROOOO!! YOU HAVE TO WATCH IT!!!!!

[@lillylouise120]

IZ*ONE didn't disband because they were deep into their contracts and it was going to be a more complex situation if they disbanded right away during the crisis. Their image will also be severely affected if it weren't because of their revival with "Fiesta". Unfortunately for X1, they disbanded since their contracts were still in the works, and the representatives (i think) were not yet able to finalize their agreements. X1 was said to have not officially signed contracts with their temporary company (the company that was supposed to handle their 5 year promotions) during the crisis. So I think they were disbanded since it will be easier for them to get out of the controversy without damaging their image and for their original companies to save money. I miss both groups dearly, and I am rooting for all the memebers to find success on their own without being held back by their past, especially the trauma that the crisis gave them. I am and forever willl be supportive of IZ'ONE and X1 members

[@irvingv.9521]

The main reason of why x1 disbanded and iz*one didn't was because x1 was only months old and didn´t signed their contracts yet and iz*one already had contracts, comeback prepared so yeah... at the time this two were my ult groups specially x1 so it was a nightmare . mnet kinda rebranded the produce series now with girls planet and boys planet...is pretty much the same as produce but with a few changes and now the votes are supervised by an external company

[@Portiayuu]

X1 was robbed so bad man. Like I know it was rigged and I feel bad for the other trainees who were supposed to be in the final lineup but what's done is done and it's not like it was the members' fault that the show was rigged. X1 would've been so big by now, can probably be the biggest 4th gen group if they stayed. Even with just their debut song they won so fast and even won 11 trophies, they had one for all 11 members lol. KInda sad there were a lot of contents that were supposed to comeout. There was even a winter album supposed to be coming out at that time but that didn't happen. All members seems to be fine with it now tho and is now working hard in their own group and solo activities. I just wish all the best for all of them.

[@irvingv.9521]

@@Portiayuu so true they could have been so big is such a shame they disbanded when it was not their fault

[@Portiayuu]

@@irvingv.9521 and what’s more sad is they disbanded without the members knowing. Dohyon and Hangyul had to make a video about them trying to console oneits when they barely know what’s happening like???

[@foreverswith9725]

The advantage of the temporary contract is that it helps the members gain popularity and a fan base so when they return to there agencies they already have a good fan base to debut again. I don’t see the advantage for the company (CJ E&M/WAKEONE) putting on the survival shows but for the companies that send trainees these survival shows can be very important. For example, starship ent. who sent Yujin and Wonyoung to Produce 48 their return and redebut in IVE has been one of there biggest successes. Before, IVE Starship didn’t have a massively successful girl group since Sistar, but now IVE is their most popular and successful group in the agency and without Yujin and Wonyoung’s popularity from IZ*ONE they probably wouldn’t be where they are. If you are wondering the newest version of MNET survival shows ‘BOYS PLANET’ made a permanent group instead of a 2.5 year contract, which in hindsight is unfortunate for the girls who were on ‘GIRLS PLANET’ who formed Kep1er because they have a 2.5 year contract still.

[@andersonrafael8278]

Oh my, intentionally you post this video hours before the 2 years of disbandment. And I can guarantee, it hurts so badly even today. I miss them so much 😞

[@velky_reeds]

the simpest way to explain why they couldn't just extend the group is basically, having multiple companies share control over one single group is harder to manage than simply redebuting the idols into their home companies so that all the money they got would be within them and just them only. basically, having many head chefs in one kitchen is just a recipe for war

[@harvard-is-calling]

they were almost going to extend their contract but wonyoung's and yujin's agency was strictly against it but atleast we have ive now

[@bh1746]

That's certainly what the fans want to believe, but no company besides CJ was making much $$ from IZone near the end of their contract because of COVID-19. Almost every company involved except CJ wanted out. Fans believing the myth that Starship was the sole holdout has led to Wonyoung and Yujin getting death threats (both minors at the time) + wizones publicly wishing that their careers will die out. So that was good, I guess. Quite a chunk of hate that IVE gets from the Korean side still originates from the 펀딩충s (what normal wizones call those nutjobs cursing/threatening Annyeongz).

[@Lonelylyk]

Too bad in that video didnt show how crazy WIZ*ONE was😢😢😢

[@dyniadyniadynia]

THANK YOU for watching it❤🔥

[@dongjunkim4191]

Why am I crying again..

[@rozeh]

the contracts didn't get extended because basically the member's individual companies had other plans. IVE debuted months after iz*one disbanded. And hybe/ source music recruited Sakura and Chaewon.

[@DWHKSU]

I do understand how they shouldve stayed together but it wasnt the company they were unders fault, it was because all the girls were from different companys so it wouldve been hard as they are still trainees under that company