FYI Jin-Gitaxias doesn't see the spells cast from chapter 3 of The Great Synthesis. The spells are cast as a part of the ability resolution, and the saga only exiles and returns after all the spells have been cast (but before they resolve).
@DraXCore6 ай бұрын
I was just going to comment about this. I learned this the hard way while playing my deck with him as the commander.
@Robert-rm4gu6 ай бұрын
Yep. If you got a Jin copy though, it will see every spell you cast with chapter 3.
@Kornerupine8885 ай бұрын
I wish more people knew about this, but it also just seems like basic magic math to resolve the spell/ability before anything else happens
@stinkyratmanАй бұрын
@@Kornerupine888 I think people get confused because Urabrask's works like that since it's until end of turn
@Kornerupine888Ай бұрын
@@stinkyratman well I mean this is gonna be mean to those people but like “read the card” and don’t make assumptions. But also I totally get what you mean. Like, cycles usually work like each other so why wouldn’t these praetor sagas. It’s just a tiny detail that could have been changed for understanding but would have made it incredibly broken once you flip it
@antoniocotillo95956 ай бұрын
"You had my interest, but now, you have my attention"
@chaosfellow74076 ай бұрын
I feel like this deck would be able to benefit from Brudiclad as a finisher to close out games by turning your small 1/1 tokens into larger things like the 8/8s from ominous seas.
@LegendaryPancakeJr6 ай бұрын
I think invasion of segovia would go crazy in this deck
@Kornerupine8886 ай бұрын
It absolutely is crazy, it’s my favorite battle in my battle deck and I also run ovika in it. I loveeeeee it
@edwardcowart59906 ай бұрын
This video was amazing! I love the work you put into brewing the deck and that you've put the time into playing it so that you're able to provide thorough explanations of play patterns. I've been wanting to build Ovika for a while now but really didn't want to do typical Izzet things. This is exactly the type of brew I was hoping to find. I'll definitely be giving your list a try. Thank you for going above and beyond! ❤
@Jack0York6 ай бұрын
An interesting (budget) replacement for Rhystic Study that i've found is [[Insight]]. It's definitely worse, but in an average pod, there is usually a green player to feed the card draw, and you don't annoy the table with the "do you pay the 1". really cool decklist tho
@loralexander9506 ай бұрын
Thanks
@marshallscot6 ай бұрын
As Foretold is definitely under rated, especially with even a little bit of proliferate effects. It's basically free counter spells on each of your opponents turns.
@Sinistra3595 ай бұрын
I play it in a lot of draw-go style decks. It's slow but I'll take 4 free spells each turn cycle! Lol
@dislikebutton95716 ай бұрын
Nice idea! there are so many good enchantments in red/blue that I always wanted to run, originally I tried Keranos for the commander but Obika is a really good fit, much more explosive.
@Kornerupine8885 ай бұрын
Alright back from 3 weeks and let me tell ya I one the first game with Ovika and I felt terrifying. The giant flyer stopped people from wanting to swing their big bads and the goblins kept me in a very safe goblin fort and I just kept churning out more goblins, once I knocked out the second biggest threat the other two just sat in acceptance that they forgot to deal with the goblins
@iokcs6 ай бұрын
I see Ovika, i click @14:44 yes i had a shark typhoon i had to remove exactly for this reason in my ovika as well.
@AstroCoffeeDemonCafe6 ай бұрын
I just got an Ovika tonight to build this type of deck, you have inspired me and this feels like it's Gunna be fun. This is going to be a very silly place for one of my favorite cards : Kiora beats the sea god! Thank you so much for existing in my recommendations I can't wait to play this
@HarlowAshensky6 ай бұрын
I just wanted to say thank you for the recommendation of Hurkyl, Master Wizard! I've been working on an esper enchantment deck with the new Arna Kennerud in Moxfield, and primarily wanted it focused on Auras, enchantments and counters. It's been a tough balance figuring out how many 'modification spells' I should include, while keeping the gas on. I still carry my mana rocks for ramp, so there's no short supply of artifacts with the enchantments in tow. A consistent draw card, that allows me to sift through the top five cards for selection in the moment is great for curating, and I could (If I'm reading it right), pull up sorceries etc that I happen to cast that turn as well if I'm lucky. I've been trying to find card draw that isn't just mesa enchantress, that just sits back and does nothing-- but forwards the deck whenever I happen to draw it, given the colour spread available. This card looks like a good fit! I already have the usual culprits, like pearl-ear, sram and kor spiritdancer that handle the casting side along with auras that draw. Breena and Raffine have been alternative methods to draw, while modifying the counters for doubling. Recently found you last week, been loving the vids! :) Will be tuning in for the next~
@micahhonig15756 ай бұрын
Psychic possession is a really solid enchantment spell that draws cards. It goes in all my decks that happen to have blue
@danort84206 ай бұрын
Your video reminded me that I had a similar experience! I was feeling that my standard Ovika spellslinger deck was too consistent and hence too strong for my playgroup. So I also decided to rebuild it into more of a gimmicky deck: Ovihicles, an Ovika deck centered around vehicles. It's actually very fun and pretty decent, although it comes with a few intricacies you have to play around, like the goblins you create off casting your vehicles entering with haste but the vehicle itself not having haste. Additionaly in the last few sets there were always a few new vehicles fitting the color identity, so the decks keeps evolving.
@DoctorOctoconapus6 ай бұрын
Been watching and you're building some great decks with unique cards. I also feel like I'm learning a lot even though I'm an experienced EDH player. For example Exchange of Words is hilarious and potently powerful.
@Tempest-Official6 ай бұрын
So happy to hear that!
@adym156 ай бұрын
I’ve been holding off building an Ovika deck for a while now; this is just the inspiration I needed to finally do it!
@IamBradofEarth6 ай бұрын
I have a typical Ovika deck. But now I kinda wanna play this!
@fastydave6 ай бұрын
I created the other version of this and loved it, but yes it's a bit hated in the play group so I don't play it anymore. I'll definitely give this a try
@riznix92376 ай бұрын
Got that other list?
@alexleblanc63646 ай бұрын
I'd like to ask how much success you've had with Mirage Mirror? What has been the best use of it? Have you ever copied an actual enchantress for card draw?
@Inugamirukazu6 ай бұрын
Ovika is also one of my favorites, so I'm gonna try to make a version of this on Arena Thanks dude
@grapplepi5 ай бұрын
there is a artifact called hyldas crown that is basically the tamiyo, but it is 3+3 to draw for each tapped creature all your opponents control together(+1 because free tap on your turn)
@DKopecTakesUpSpace6 ай бұрын
Betrothed of Fire from Weatherlight is pretty sweet here. Awesome deck! Subscribed :)
@sir_quirkus72066 ай бұрын
love the warhammer setup you got there. jealous
@GliveMtg6 ай бұрын
I would love to see your approach with artifacts, I'm working on a mana rocks tribal budget deck with a bunch of card draw to get to my wincons.
@loralexander9506 ай бұрын
Top content. Top content creator. Really enjoying your channel. Your style and your ideas are great
@Gusta_Gustav6 ай бұрын
Literally started making an izzet enchantress deck ever since they revealed Bria from Bloomburrow. Will be taking notes!
@WolfBHL1236 ай бұрын
Very nice approach on Ovika, well done :D
@donaldopedro81486 ай бұрын
You've inspired me to finally build my Izzet Familiar deck with Red Lizard and Blue Bird.
@danieledwards43106 ай бұрын
I love Ovika too I challenged myself to make the deck with 0 creatures outside of Ovika but I might have to give this version a spin it looks like great fun
@sacredbeastzenon6 ай бұрын
My thoughts on Shark Typhoon are the same. I had it in a few decks before I built Ovika. It was a struggle to use.
@chrispydesign5856 ай бұрын
Very creative build, I love it!
@tko_56 ай бұрын
This is amazing. Love the content.
@TheKillingMine6 ай бұрын
5:28 that is wrong. you cast everything as you resolve that trigger, and they go to the stack before jin-gitaxias returns to the battlefield. jin-gitaxias returns before any of them resolve, however he sees none of those entering the pile, so won't draw any cards.
@Kornerupine8886 ай бұрын
Thanks for making this, I have ovika in a battle deck so I can cast the noncreature spell and then defeat it and cast it again from exile and ovika goes crazyyyyyyy hard
@Buffalo936 ай бұрын
But how do you survive until you're able to cast Ovika?
@infernotitan11586 ай бұрын
Oh man. I looked at this list and holy HELL does it look fun. Gonna Proxy it out for my next game I manage to get in with friends
@atroxdoesgaming6 ай бұрын
god i love ovika! ive built it like 4 different times and every time, its a blaasssst. my favorite is a ton of mana rocks and then big splashy spells that i tend to rotate out
@TheIrrelevantYT6 ай бұрын
This was my first build fo Ovika. No one expects it, but one Kindred Discovery into a City on Fire and everyone starts groaning and burning.
@wafflebroz6 ай бұрын
I tried playing Ovika / Iconoclast with Artifacts. Will have to look at doing this with Enchantmente
@blaynejames19606 ай бұрын
Casts tranquility* watches you seeth and loathe*
@vincentwerts47245 ай бұрын
I really enjoy using off color strats for my unhealthy number of commander decks that I refuse to dismantle. I wish I'd thought of this one. My favorite is my Firja, Judge of Valor spellslinger deck. It's pretty fun if you like control. Cheers!
@alexgosan57076 ай бұрын
Estimated cost 570dollar. Puh my decks tend to be in the 200 bucks range.
@brendan-kfp7.62mmminigun46 ай бұрын
I opened this commander randomly and wanted to try it, but all the normal play patterns were annoying and not my playstyle. This, though, might be worth giving a shot.
@nasayatcg6 ай бұрын
I was working on a custom commander for Izzet enchantments, then they printed ole boy here and I felt like the custom commander was no longer necessary. This guy is crazy
@peak_1234Ай бұрын
Are there any new updates to the deck with the new sets?
@diegomurillo55626 ай бұрын
Do you have a list link for your former more powerful deck?
@scottcho70646 ай бұрын
I'm surprised you're using manaform hellkite...it not only doesn't trigger your commander when you cast it, but if you're discounting your spells (like with as foretold, sunbirds, cascade, etc) it is not very useful as it only makes a dragon as big as the amount of mana actually spent rather than the straight mana value. Also, recommendations: Struggle for Project Purity - obviously not as good as Rhystic, but a great budget replacement that doesn't generate nearly as much hate. Connect the Dots - Functions similarly to Tamiyo's draw mechanic as it triggers for each goblin you attack with (which means it can also pile up over the course of a couple turns if your board state is struggling). Lost in the Maze - Instant speed, clears blockers, lets you make as many goblins as you want, and can protect your board.
@lorenzobattaglia59273 ай бұрын
I'm sorry to correct you, but with all of the 3 mechanics you said (As Foretold + Cascade and I include also Discover) you still create the Dragon/flying Shark/Incubator/Goblins with the full (=CMC) mana cost, even if it's casted free - because it's CAST indeed :)
@jessewills74416 ай бұрын
Commenting for algorithm stuff. Also I love Ovika, but once she's online, it's basically over
@pietro8046 ай бұрын
I'm glad you like ovika it was the first commander deck I built myself. I think the enchantress idea is neat but seems incredibly slow.
@kapix75916 ай бұрын
It really isn't. I've proxied it and played 4 games with it. I've won 3/4 games, with 1 being one turn away, and it all was around 5-6 turn, so I wouldn't say "slow"
@seanwilliams72366 ай бұрын
Thank you for your service! This is delicious 🤤
@DraXCore6 ай бұрын
Part of me is looking at swapping Phyrexian alter (mainly because I don't have one) for an Artificer Class since it should be able to get me a mana rock and to start copying my mana rocks. Normally most people I play against don't target it until I have like 10 sol rings. Also Court of Emberth seems like it could deal with opponents if you stay the monarch
@DraXCore6 ай бұрын
Also The Sound of Drums has to be one of my favorite recent time red enchantments for surprise damage
@richsasala20146 ай бұрын
Have you thought about brudiclad in your deck list?
@grantmurdock73856 ай бұрын
This is hilarious and cool, about the most interesting thing since I heard about Magar but no creatures. And I built that, it rules.
@ppouloux6 ай бұрын
I might have to build this deck lol (after I finish building my Nekusar, Henzie and Norin decks), I was never interested in enchantress decks, the ones I've seen are always some Sythis deck, but this one got me interested, I was already interested in Ovika before, but this looks like a fun and different deck. Just wondering if I can break the "yeah trust me dude, this is not like the others" when people see Ovika, but we'll see
@grantmurdock73856 ай бұрын
Love me some Henzie. It's gonna be a good time.
@noobtuber106 ай бұрын
Heeeey lookie that im no longer the only enchantress storm ovika player now, wonder if ya put the sluggishness with a ruby medallion and a skirk prospector or any sac outlet that makes you red, theres so many auras that go back to hand when hitting the grave, so many ways for infinite gobos
@noobtuber106 ай бұрын
Saw the list, lowkey, id try to find room for skirk prospector, Thermopod. For auras Draconic Destiny, fiery Mantle, Sluggishness, these go infinite with ovika and a cost reducer and are in theme for enchantress
@eebbaa55606 ай бұрын
i've been looking for inspiration to build my first commander deck (i only own two precons right now) and i clicked on this video because the thumbnail seemed interesting. i probably won't build this specific deck, but i wanted to ask since it seems like you have some experience: how do you come up with an effective, unique, original idea for a deck? i don't want to scroll through edhrec's most popular commanders and just build an average netdeck, but i'm having a hard time getting the ball rolling with a single commander/archetype/ability/engine/etc. to build around? any advice? or any resources you could point me to?
@MultiverseMemoirsPodcast6 ай бұрын
Awesome idea!
@dancingwholenessАй бұрын
I think my 1 issue with this deck is that it doesn’t translate into the mobile game of MTG. It’s currently all I got in terms of MTG, so every time I see a deck for a Commander I really wanted to use (like Ovika) I get really sad when I see I can’t translate the deck. In this case, Rain of Riches and Treachery aren’t in the mobile game.
@alexgosan57076 ай бұрын
I am pretty sure Jin gitaxias does not draw you cards on the spells you cast on his 3rd chapter. You cast the spells and THEN flipp him back. His frontside is there when they resolve but not while casting
@germphone6 ай бұрын
I am 2 cards in and it is already naughty
@Tempest-Official6 ай бұрын
@@germphone 😈
@DiegoRodriguez-jh4sd6 ай бұрын
woooah i have been building a magnus the red deck with ovika as a polymorph target to spew out a disgusting amount of goblins so glad this came up in my recommended, what a cool idea
@feritperliare28906 ай бұрын
Ha i made this deck type as well a while back
@shingeperson69536 ай бұрын
Idk, is it enchantress?
@kiernanoh6 ай бұрын
You cant play izzet enchantress without the best blue red enchantment, thousand year storm.
@Guzthraka6 ай бұрын
I wasn't listening to the whole video. Great watch though.
@KilWilShow5 ай бұрын
😂
@MinstrelSauce4 ай бұрын
Maybe I would look at it if it weren't on arkidect
@bobdebando6 ай бұрын
Jin is to slow, better run omnisience instead, you prob also need more effective card draw, i use faerie mastermind or sea gate restauration for more draw and handsize, and city on fire with goblin bombardment should be in here aswel tbh
@PP-mb2ky6 ай бұрын
Please put a shirt on so I can pay attention to what you're saying
@granite_45766 ай бұрын
People sleep on 'noncreature'
@suotela6 ай бұрын
This doesn’t feel like an enchantress deck as it feels like a permanents only gimmick deck. I was hoping to see any type of enchantments matters cards 😢 That said, I’m all for playing the game on hardmode by imposing novel restrictions on deckbuilding and have done so with over a dozen Ovika lists. A a fan of Ovika, I’m a fan of the list, just not within the enchantress context
@MrRomanrin6 ай бұрын
INTERESTING ! but so expensive... just having rhystic is a NO for me.... NO RHYSTIC. ITS A BAN FOR ME. :)
@thesaurusakasickakatheomc76886 ай бұрын
I genuinely hate how much I want to build this deck. In a good way.
@callumarcher81116 ай бұрын
I love a good Izzet spellslinger and Selesnia enchantress deck, maybe its time to flip those around