How to beat a wrestler with Wing Chun - Izzo Wing Chun

Wing Chun Kung Fu taught by Retired Police Officer and Tactics Expert, Dominick Izzo.
Dominick Izzo has been training Wing Chun since 1998 and has been teaching in the Chicago area since 2008. He was the first American Wing Chun instructor to be published and published in back to back issues in Wing Chun Illustrated.
He is known for his realistic, aggressive and combative approach to Wing Chun Kung Fu.
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[@j-r-m7775]

Although I disagree with this guy about the effectiveness of his chosen martial art, you have to respect him for putting himself and his style on the line and actually engaging with these wrestlers. So many of these "master" just throw around willing students and walk around like they have magic powers. At least this guy's willing to get a little roughed up and actually sweat.

[@donsjuand]

+James Reese Agreed.

[@tonypeterson5316]

Quite a lot of police officers and militaries use Wing Chun for self defense. MMA tournaments have rules that would ban the use of certain WC moves.

[@BeefDog666]

did you watch the video? basically if he could strike both wrestlers would be in the hospital in 1-2 strikes

[@devourerofbabies]

How to beat a wrestler with Wing Chun: Short answer: you don't.

[@intfstft]

sure you can if you think outside the box using wing chun

[@devourerofbabies]

lou sosa You will be taken down.

[@intfstft]

devourerofbabies he cant take me down if he cant get a hold of me 1st....

[@devourerofbabies]

lou sosa He will be able to. Your wing chun punches won't keep him out. Pure strikers are always incapable of keeping grapplers out.

[@brandoncruise6398]

devourerofbabies The "punches" he through weren't meant to take them out because as he stated, he didn't want to hurt them. They are meant for distraction. Everytime he had an open shot to deliver a potentially punishing blow, such as the carotid artery, he mentioned it. Notice the aggravation mentioned by the wrestlers; that can easily be used to gain the upper hand in a fight. The intention of this video wasn't to show which one is better, but how Wing chun can be applied in or against wrestling.

[@rainmechanic]

These are kids with a few years of high school wrestling under their belts.... VS a 10+ year ? practicioner of "Wing Chun".... He was taken down multiple times... He was single legged repeatedly... Suplexed.. ect... If this was a street fight he would have ended up on the ground and all of his striking would be negated in favor of the wrestler... He would be ground and pounded into a bloody pulp... A Judoka would have thrown turned his world upside down... A varsity wrestler with one year of boxing training/sparring would completely decimate anyone in this guys Wing Chun academy... Sorry.. But that is reality.

[@AceofDlamonds]

rainmechanic real shit.

[@Shadowrulzalways]

You seem to forget, it's never the style nor technique it's the person using it. He was holding back. If he wanted to go all out he could have won. Your to quick to judge.

[@AceofDlamonds]

John Reeves Goes for both of them....it's rather difficult to stop a grappler with theoretical martial arts moves.

[@christophermerlino6842]

rainmechanic these kids had a ton of wrestling experience and the chunner specifically stated numerous times he could not hit. His striking would be far superior to theirs if he was allowed to. this was just to prove some of the movements in wing chun could be applied. You don't need to learn wrestling to be the nest fighter ever. learrn a thing or two about fighting

[@rainmechanic]

"You don't need to learn wrestling to be the nest fighter ever. learrn a thing or two about fighting" Cain Velasquez Current UFC Heavyweight Champion, Jon Jones/Danial Cormier Current UFC LHW Champions, Chris Weidman Current UFC Middleweight Champion, Current #1 ranked Welterweight Johnny Hendricks... All of these Elite Mixed Martial Arts Champions have one thing in Common... They were all Division One All American Collegete Wrestlers...Weidman was a four time Div One All American Champion.. He defeated Anderson Silva TWICE.. and is currently UNDEFEATED.... Perhaps it is you who needs to learn a thing or two about fighting... When the standup gets messy for a Wrestler he can put the striker on his back... When a high level Grappler is raining down elbows onto your skull from side control what is Wing Chuns answer for that?

[@iamhello7923]

Well this just showed you have zero ability to stop their take down.

[@javiermfmaldonadofernandez1489]

I think there is a point why he mentioned "i am not allowed to hit". He is showing how some principles of of WC can help if applied well in wrestling, not that a lighter and older man can beat a younger and stronger man in his own art.

[@Ithil-00]

I stopped watching @ 6:30 or so. Your assumption is that Wing Chung would be superbly efficacious if you were allowed to strike. In so doing, you missed something that should be very obvious. What if the wrestlers were allowed to hit as well? Obviously, if you're allowed to strike, making the assumption that they won't or can't strike, confers a significant advantage to you, no matter what BS you happen to be peddling at the time.

[@JaimeFlorSongwriter]

Good point, that would even it out quite a bit. However, at that point, it's more like an MMA fight. Also, I wouldn't underestimate a good strike to the neck, whether it's a forearm, fist, or maybe a kick. However, from my understanding, most Wing Chun kicks are thrown low, and in close, where the opponent wouldn't visibly see it.

[@RNDestyne]

@@JaimeFlorSongwriter I agree im a Wrestler who is learning wing chun and those low kicks to the knees can be DEVASTATING.

[@grapplinglife1227]

So basically every-time they're succeeding in a takedown he desperately said "that's good" to prevent him from getting smashed to the floor violently.

[@IzzoWingChun]

+GRAPPLING LIFE Did you listen to the part where I said there were no mats, so we were going to acknowledge that once they got in, it was an assumed take down? This was about the point of contact, bridging and stopping.

[@bradpack9340]

+The Rogue Warriors - Wing Chun / Aikido / Guns / Fitness hes fucking stupid dom

[@ProfessionalPilot]

+GRAPPLING LIFE No shit. I'm pretty sure they weren't intending on doing permanent injury to each other. That's not a wrestling mat. When he said "That's good" what he was doing was acknowledging that they had succeeded in their takedown attempt. By that same understanding, he wasn't striking. Even having 0 experience in wrestling, grappling, or wing chung, *I* could understand the concepts being exhibited here. Kinda makes me wonder how many times you've been face-planted if you're unable to comprehend the points made in the video.If your entire existence revolves around attempting to maim people unnecessarily, you might want to rethink your life.

[@ProfessionalPilot]

+The Rogue Warriors - Wing Chun / Aikido / Guns / Fitness Sorry dude. I think the average person with internet access is too stupid to understand the purpose of your video.

[@captainfresh1976]

+GRAPPLING LIFE yes yes

[@ryanman81588]

Does anyone realize how hard it is to wrestle someone who is constantly backing up? Every thing this guy is doing is basic defense taught in wrestling...post on the head fight hands I don't really get what he was trying to convey. He kept saying what if I was striking. Well what if the wrestlers were striking what if he grabbed a D1 157 pounder from Iowa or Penn State? HE'D GET HIS ASS WOOPED!!!

[@justindraeger334]

I do wing chun, and wrestling. I incorporate wing chun into my mixed martial arts training. I see what he is doing, and I think it can be effective, but the fact of the matter is, people are not 100 percent accurate every single time. What is the wing chun answer for when you actually do get taken to the ground, because your timing was off? and which is the easier route? Learning wrestling defense, or wing chun defense. Wrestling counters to takedown are probably quicker to pick up than Wing chun counters to takedowns. Wing chun and wrestling cover two different aspects of fighting. It is however easy to incorporate wing chun into mma or the streets. Just don't neglect the other aspects of fighting too, especially in the streets.

[@KingstonUponThames]

True

[@chaausxentrus2777]

Tony Ferguson nails the incorporation of Wing Chun into his wrestling using PRINCIPLES, NOT TECHNIQUES!

[@justindraeger334]

@@chaausxentrus2777 I think when he fought Pettis, he used actual wing Chun techniques. He practices it because he believes in the system.

[@DStyleBoxing]

I want to see other Wing Chun guys try this instead of just talking

[@Kev80ification]

Agreed!!!!

[@truthguy7577]

How to beat a wrestler = stop living in your dream world and learn some wrestling with BJJ submissions. You will not out-wrestle a wrestler, but you can learn enough to save yourself from being twisted into a knot. Then use your BJJ skills to set up submissions, sweeps or to get back up. Wing Chun "could" work with lots of training against wrestlers... But it does not have a good base and it's just so much easier to learn wrestle and do BJJ.

[@truthguy7577]

***** Ummm... Sprawling is a wrestling technique, and takedown defense is an integral part of MMA training. I wasn't suggesting that one needed to be an expert on all aspects of wrestling. I was merely pointing out that to be able to counter wrestling moves, you need to know what wrestling is about. Just like you've stated. Unfortunately, too many kung-fools believe the key is to practice more kung-phooey.

[@peposo7]

Could you explain further what do you mean by "not having a good base"?

[@aaronyuen5982]

I disagree with the statement that Wing Chun or other Martial arts for that matter does not have a "good base". Styles do have take down techniques and Wing Chun can even be applied while on the ground. We've done it. We are lucky enough to have a variety of people coming to learn Wing Chun from us. We get quite a few boxers, some TKD, Karate, Aikido, JuJitsu, Tai Chi, you name it. I would agree though that something like wrestling can allow a practitioner to become proficient at the style in a shorter amount of time when compared to some complex martial arts. For example, while in Wing Chun, 3 months in we are still teaching proper form and hand, body, eye coordination. A 3 month wrestler has likely been conditioning and quite capable of taking someone down, example, the 3 month Wing Chun practitioner. However, given time, lets say 1 year+ when you compare someone of Wing Chun and Wrestling, you may see a much closer match up.

[@kevinrhoton5970]

Wrestling and BJJ work!

[@intfstft]

Kevin Rhoton sure it works but their is always a way to nullify any opponent by checking on how they go into their attack....wrestlers..bjj guys they all grab first....nullify their grab and be stronger then them by training it then you can beat them

[@thatguyoverthere11]

This video taught me the number one rule of beating a wrestler with wing chun: Don't try it.

[@thatguyoverthere11]

+Demon I think you misread the comment. I'm making fun of the wing chun guy. (That or you're making a weak attempt to drop Yip Man's name and make wing chun sound tougher.)

[@thatguyoverthere11]

+Demon None. I'm a former wrestler too, lol. Like I said, it's the wing chun guy I was kinda laughing at here. (Not that other martial arts styles aren't effective. The video just didn't convince me that wing chun is one of them.)

[@isaiahecorrea]

+itstheblueguy wrestling beats everything...except jiu jitsu

[@afro__g5217]

Isaiah correa Depends on the fighter

[@isaiahecorrea]

Demon the best versus the best. The wrestler would won and did win in the early ufc. The only guys who could stop wrestlers and win it all was jiu jitsu cats.

[@JohnGodwin]

Dude's gassed after 20 seconds of actual training, and proves conclusively that Wing Chun cannot be used to defend takedowns.

[@JohnGodwin]

***** I'm English. Not sure what your point is, gassing is gassing. He isn't used to sparring, because like all Wing Chun "fighters", he's full of theory, with no practical training of any kind.

[@captainfresh1976]

+John Godwin true

[@thelastdragon3242]

+John Godwin I mean the guy is in his late 40's.

[@MrAlepedroza]

+John Godwin Like ''all wing chun fghters''? Seems you never heard about Tom Lamont or Allan Orr....

[@JohnGodwin]

MrAlepedroza Dipshit can name two specific people, which inadvertently outlines my entire point about Wing Chun. DOH!

[@Chad01234]

Martial arts is like religion. You have snake handlers, quakers and shakers, pentacostals, jehova's witnesses, mornons, etc. And the few arts that are viable, such as, jiujitsu, and perhaps a few well rounded arts that encompass all ranges of a conflict, are like scientists at a revival meeting. These folks that practice nonsense mean well, they love their art (religion) so much that they are blind to it's fallacies. Perhaps they innocently don't know better, are smart enough to avoid the effective arts, and in the end, strive to pay their bills by filling schools. Sadly, there's no board of directors that says: you don't get to spout nonsense unless you can prove to the board you are teaching something effective. So, everyone has this freedom to b.s. away...and it's shameful. But that's reality, I suppose. You won't see a single "martial artist" at a Gracie Challenge, that's for certain.

[@gameth]

So Jiu Jitsu and wrestling are not martial arts?

[@Chad01234]

"And the few arts that are viable, such as, jiujitsu..." Please point out where I stated or inferred that jujitsu was not a martial art.

[@retroghidora6767]

Your making a lot of assumptions and it seems like you don't really understand martial arts, yes, some places are very cult like in behavior but most of those places are actually in the west. Martial arts in the east are more like family ( obviously not in every case) and bjj is not as perfect as people make it out to be. Have you ever seen a Gracie challenge that didn't take place on a matt? I could go on but I won't, now if you really understood or at least did some research into martial arts you see a lot of similarities in sport ma and traditional ma, a lot of people fail to see than wing chun is just as based on leverage as bjj but it was designed to combat "long bridge" martial arts, it needs some changing but people like alan orr and Mr Izzo are doing that

[@hanzoogami2556]

Names video "HOW TO BEAT A WRESTLER WITH WING CHUN". Spends entire video losing to wrestlers and not showing how to actually beat them.

[@danielreeder6791]

Did you miss the neck blows he was demonstrating?.. No, Guess not.. he easily demonstrated his easy access to the mans neck, which would have instantly ended the fight.. The guy is just too humble to brag about it.

[@hanzoogami2556]

Daniel Reeder You're kidding right? Easy access to the neck, and then what? Try to figure out what do with it as he's being taking down? Have you even seen the neck conditioning wrestlers do? And dude, I've seen Thai fighters take shins to the neck and keep going. Not everyone is prone to the hypothetical instant kill strikes glorified by Chinese cinema.

[@KrakenZer0]

humans can't grow muscles over the throat or carotid artery. even an errant thumbnail can rip through an artery. light pressure will destroy the windpipe of anyone. the neck is a difficult-to-protect mass of veins, arteries and nerves that is easily damaged and imminently vital. this is why most fighters keep their heads in a chin tucked, forehead leading manner. in addition, control of the neck gives control of the head. instant KO and kill strikes are achieved every single day on the streets and in the ring by people of various skill levels. most real fights end in less than 10 seconds of bloody fury, unlike the prolonged battles in movies or competitions. this is because there are just some areas of the body that are always vulnerable, even in powerfully built hardened fighters. (e.g. groin, solar plexus, eyes, kneecap) this video was a live test of how WC techniques might apply to a very specific situation within a small span of time, skipping what may have happened before or after.

[@brayj789]

***** No, strikers keep their chins tucked to use the shoulders and delt muscles to protect the chin, jaw, and "vagus" sensitive areas, which cause knockouts. Everyone hopes to be abel to end a fight quickly with precise and "deadly" strikes, but to assume you can train to a point that you can do that every time is just rediculous, and ignores the complex, dynamic, and ever changing qualities fighting has. I've seen guys get knocked out plenty of times with 2-5 punch combos when they swore their initial "lethal" strike was going to end the fight. "My knee kick, groin strike, then thrown punch combo will end the fight immediately"--yea well when you go against someone who has trained in striking, and checks your knee kick, which throws you off balance immediately, your groin kick misses then and your throat punch ends up as an off balance shoulder tap--then your wide open, your "plan" has failed, and an experiences striker has you open to do damage--boom straight--hook to the body, hook the head. Your knocked out because you had a plan and it failed, instead of looking at a fight as a dynamic situation requiring reaction.

[@captmorgan101472]

I was thinking the same thing. Those wrestlers owned him.

[@IamHueGraves]

the one real mistake pretty much all Kung Fu people seem to make is thinking that every potential hit is a knockout, it's pretty clear from all full contact fighting anyone's ever seen, that the one or two hit knockout is pretty rare... at least rare enough that it isn't safe to bet your life on getting it

[@vlonp]

yeah thats why wing chun uses the nonstop punches so technically he wouldve wailed on em like 7 times each time you see his hand contact and continue touching the neck or solar plexus

[@IamHueGraves]

Varun Pathak no, watch a wing chun fight vs any other martial art, you don't get a bunch of rapid hits, even if someone only moves 8 inches, their entire body is off the center line

[@vlonp]

well youtube videos in general are a bad place to watch real martial artists but I understand your point thats just not the correct way to use wing chun, but its the fighter not the style in the end

[@AceofDlamonds]

Varun Pathak but they are flat footed and clearly disadvantaged versus other slicker styles like western boxing. Non stop chain punching breaks down as IamHueGraves has already said in the heat of a dynamic battle.

[@IamHueGraves]

***** watching boxing doesn't give me much faith in that, you really need to have the perfect set up to get a good shot at a quick knockout, and I'm more talking about the "weird" hits that kung fu guys do that seem more like set up moves than knockouts, yet they don't seem to think of it that way

[@RedKingdom9]

This looks like a fail to me

[@freethesheepn7400]

I'd rather have a college level wrestler on my side in a fight, than Bruce lee riding in a chariot being pulled by chuck Norris.

[@myjizzureye]

So basically with wing chun you have now pissed off a wrestler so when he gets on top instead of you in seconds as they did in this video instead of just chocking you they might break a limb. Its like teaching people how to punch a bees nest more effectively to insure they are really really pissed off.

[@Averagebum21]

He wasn't allowed to punch. What do you think would have happened if he had punched repeatedly to the wrestler's neck?

[@myjizzureye]

How do you expect to punch somebodies neck thats shooting for a single or a double? (Their neck is 3 foot off the ground tucked chin raised shoulders) Have you ever tried punching somebodies neck when their chin is resting on their chest as it should be? That comment alone clearly demonstrates you don't spar full contact with BJJ guys. Vale Tudo has unlimited throat and neck punching yet nobody gets hit there taking guys down as their shoulders are raised and their chin is tucked. Only chunners go around standing square with their chin poking out.

[@Averagebum21]

I was referring specifically to the video and what happened in the video, something you commented on but obviously didn't watch. In the video, did you not see how Nick was in striking range of the wrestlers' neck many times when he stopped them from getting too far in? He held his knife hand on their neck when in a real fight he could have struck it. Please avoid making assumptions about what I do and my experience. I am not a Wing Chun practitioner and would never fight the way Nick did in the video. Let's be objective about the subject at hand.

[@myjizzureye]

I have watched the video yes. The point is the end result is always the same. These guys or any half decent BJJ guy will always get you in the end. Yes you can "knife hand" on their neck, yes it will hurt them, yes it will do zero to prevent them getting position, yes they will remember that pain when they get you in control 15 to 30 seconds later. Watch the clock, these guys take seconds to get dominate position...seconds. What I have just said is souly related to this video. Now for reality in the cage match format the WC guys don't land a single blow before being taken down. (ask me for video evidence) It looks a lot easier than it is but in reality good grapplers can wiggle you towards them and thrust you away to make your hits miss time. I have prevented a lot of guys from completing chokes by rolling them onto my balled up fist in the middle of their back and compressing their spine on it making it hurt like hell when ever they try to get extension on the choke. This works in sparring as peoples pain thresholds are lower, in reality id be a dead man if the fight was real.

[@Averagebum21]

In the video, it's not just the knife hand...that was used because Nick wasn't allowed to punch to the neck. So he used the knife hand to try to create leverage. Notice also that in the ring there are plenty of rules. No eye gouges, no bites, no neck strikes/breaks, no joint breaks, no groin strikes = end of WC or any martial art except for those the rules favour. How can you expect a small martial artist to compete in the ring against a stronger person who is more skilled at wrestling and grappling with rules that take away all of the weapons of the former? It's similar to replacing fighting with arm wrestling. The smaller guy or the one less skilled at arm wrestling would always lose. MMA and UFC rules favour BJJ, Muay Thai, and Wrestlers, period. All small man martial arts rely on quick strikes to vital areas. BJJ and wrestlers are so used to fighting with rules that they can forget the game changes considerably when there are no rules. I am not a WC guy and would NEVER strike a wrestler on my way down. But I am trying to look objectively at the situation.

[@IzzoWingChun]

Thank you for your comment. I have been wrestling since 1988 and still coach. Wing Chun can handle anything because it is conceptual. That's about as simple an explanation I can offer.

[@350sofast]

A good wrestler would have taken you down easily and then ground and pound. Wing chung is out dated.

[@IzzoWingChun]

So...since they ARE great Wrestlers, that must mean MY Wing Chun works. Thanks.

[@RCLIFTOFF]

Izzo Warrior Academy - Fighting and Fitness Striking your opponent plays a huge part in your defense. The fact that your hands are being placed on their necks and faces says you've for the most part stopped them or beat them to the punch. Leaving out the leg jam also plays a part in your defense which to me is key. Considering the circumstances/conditions, you faired pretty well.

[@andreshito12]

+RC LIFT OFF! putting your hands on their face or neck is no way to stop a takedown,it may slow down it a bit, but you are far more exposed to other throws doing that. See what happens when someones stiffens his arms against a judoka...

[@RCLIFTOFF]

+Andrés Reynoso You miss understand. Putting a hand on the face or neck simulates a strike, meaning an eye gouge or punch to the throat would stop his attack.

[@andreshito12]

+RC LIFT OFF! eye gouges are very situational, i would say that mostly they are useless, if you are very far you'll probably en up hurting your fingers, if your posture is broken like most of the time in this video they won't work. The ideal situation for an eye gouge would be when you are on the floor and controlling your opponent, but then there would be better techniques like chokes and locks or ground and pound that would be safer if you are on top or positions like that. And you can't clearly hit the neck when your opponent is on a lower position than you and with his chin tucked in. There aren't many videos of fights that allowed eye gouging, because of it's potential risk; but on the firsts ufc and vale tudo where it was allowed, it wasn't a big issue, actually most of the times it didn't even help, there were a few exceptions like some chins to the eyes, but they were totally dominating their opponents, so they would probably win even without the eye gouging. Well this is just my opinion

[@Ketroc]

Respect that this is legit. I was really expecting some fake set up video to show Wing Chun stopping take downs. Instead he's okay to show the wrestlers complete every take down, and just focus on how describing his Wing Chun defensive concepts could apply vs wrestling.

[@donsjuand]

+Ketroc Yeah I like that too - he didn't try to show bias; just how wing chun is relevant to wrestling take down attempts. Cool video. It tells me that I'd need to combine it with something else. Which is fine.

[@isaiahecorrea]

+Butwhy Doesitmatter no its not. he got into a wrestling stance which immediately takes all legitimacy away from the experiament. Street fights don't strategy with you squatted down to stop takedown attempts. if I get into a wrestling stance and circle and back up obviously no one can take me down. same as if I back up against a boxer. he's also much bigger and stronger then those kids obviously. in a street fight they would both be standing straight up with there hands up, then the wrestler would shoot and grab a leg and it would be over.

[@1019caveman]

WTF he got his ass kicked!

[@harshses33]

Dude, you just proved how useless Wing Chun is as a self defense against grappling. If you really want to know how to defend against a high level wrestler just watch some MMA, the real shit.

[@harshses33]

fabrizzio monsalve Easier said than done

[@rye-bread5236]

@fabrizzio monsalve you think wrestlers don't know what to do when someone sprawls? Oh shoot we shot in and he sprawled game over. Best to learn wrestling and kickboxing. Nothing else is as good a combo for fighting. Bjj is good to know too but striking and wrestling are more important.

[@rye-bread5236]

@fabrizzio monsalve boxing is part of kickboxing it's boxing with muay Thai kicks. Dutch style kickboxing for example. Lol but yeah if you are talking about starting out the best bases are boxing and wrestling. And that's sort of where I began. (Wrestling As a kid and kung fu. Tried boxing dropped kung fu. Legit kung fu is hard to find. Wind chun was shit for me. Fuck chain punching) Personally I'd branch off into CSW or catch wrestling and Dutch kickboxing if I had the resources but there's only American kickboxing and bjj here. So I'll take it.

[@mosesy6169]

Only thing I saw was him constantly being single legged by some above average wrestlers.

[@IzzoWingChun]

Then that's what you saw.

[@dmcintyre5210]

It's amazing how many expert Wing Chun practitioners are commenting on here. Every video I see of it is hilarious. bunch of fairies dancing with each other. Useless

[@josephesposito3499]

Another FOOL! This video proved his point, that Wing Chun has it's place, as he had these wrestlers all trapped, at the point that they closed in he would then employ another strategy, and maybe grapple as well. Why not use both?

[@dmcintyre5210]

joseph esposito lol ok champ. Dancing with the Stars is always an option

[@rcchristian2]

He didn't have these guys trapped. He was going to get slammed. You have no idea what it's like to go 2 minute sparring with a wrestler. This is clear. The reason why you don't use both is, because Muay Thai is much more effective in the clinch than Wing Chun is.

[@BillyBatsonMarvel]

A wrestlers centerline is there for the taking. Wrestlers lead with the head, a perfectly timed knee, elbow or punch to the head and it's lights out. If the Wing Chun practitioner can't take advantage of that exposer, and the wrestler get control of the leg, it's game over.

[@shunpham3283]

Yea but they also got this thing called timing and not charge in idiotically, so its gonna be really hard to nail that strike to the head

[@chrokeii]

If you could hit, and they were also hitting you back (even with no striking experience) they would mess you up.

[@stango141]

When they figured out the Russian tie destroyed your hand movement it was over. Really you have to look as all the techniques have value, but you still have to learn proven wrestling defenses. The guys never go very deep on there shots so a whizzer or sprawl would have stop them. I like how you show hand movement to the head without extending yourself too much. It shows a guy training takedowns every day will take you down so you better know how to survive and get out.

[@criceto]

there is no way to beat a wrestler without an extensive preparation in grappling wrestling

[@criceto]

A wrestler is ofter stronger and more stocky, unless the striker is bigger and stronger or the wing chun guy quickly strike him in an eye, he got lay down in the ground ( not the tatami) and killed. For beat a grappler the wing chun man have to study judo or bjj or wrestling. My former Sifu went to a seminar with Noguera

[@cfoe1212]

***** damn... good point. Entertainin as hell to watch though!

[@criceto]

A real wrestler, not a guy that pretend to imitate one..

[@pryzmcat]

finger/Thumb to the eye..game over...finger/thumb jab to the throat..cutting off the breath..game over...

[@kylrapture]

irepdaronx Blanket statement there, I've grappled and "blast double" isn't as effective as you might think. I've seen people take majot knees trying that, or elbows or had their legs smashed out from under them. All it takes from the defender is timing and nerve.

[@nikoskabbadias]

the only way to beat a wrestler with Wing Chun is to shoot them with a dart with anesthetic first coming from a Wing Chun fan if a wrestler grabs you ( in real life) Martial Arts dont matter, because in the end, one way or another, there is only one thing you can do start hitting them with any means ( you ll probably have elbows and knees more handy when you are caught in their grab) on any soft and sensitive point you can access (throat, eyes, groin, ribs) and hope to god you make it before they crush your bones

[@JeffreyJamesLippold]

In my opinion the only way you are going to beat a good wrestler is with jujutsu period. But I love that you think about it and at least prepare a strategy.

[@kevinrhoton5970]

Agree 100%

[@intfstft]

not if you train grabbing their wrists first and strength training spreading their arms apart and controlling their arms ...crossing them and then going into choke,neck crank or punch into elbow as their arms are trapped.....disagree with you 100 %

[@JeffreyJamesLippold]

lol...you are funny.

[@gameth]

***** You see that in MMA because the wrestlers also tend to learn submissions as they progress in MMA. Straight wrestling vs. BJJ tends to see the wrestler choked out/armbarred or the BJJ ground and pounded.

[@nezerac]

I love the fact that everyone in the comment section can think for themselves. Restores my faith in humanity! BUT no one has said the painfully obvious which is wrestlers can't strike in wrestling so they start with grapples. A wrestler with the ability to perform a half decent jab can hit you and have both your ankles AND his should at your waist which means GAME OVER if you're not a wrestler...my brother wrestled. We fought a lot...we stopped fighting when he started wrestling in high school XD

[@baracutay12]

I have seen several clips of Mr. Izzo and heard his Wing Chun philosophies. All I can say is he is one of the few people I have met that actually understand the true nature of Wing Chun. I began practicing Wing Chun from Sifu Duncan Leung over 30 years ago. Although I was not able to finish learning, the principles that I was taught helped me immensely in my boxing, wrestling, etc etc. I am particularly fond of Mr. Izzos statement regarding the "Wing Chun" Stance that we often see practitioners in just prior to them getting hammered by some other stylists. Its how you use the tools that matter and not the tools themselves.Thank you sir-AWESOME!

[@IzzoWingChun]

I am humbled by your comment...thank you.

[@TheSuperQuail]

The subtitle to this video should be: "With extreme difficulty." Good video by the way.

[@ezekielgarza1150]

Great video, wrestlers are masters of balance. Try some akido with wing chun.

[@iwantyourcookiesnow]

Izzo, mad respect for you putting it out there, u r not a poser or a theorist, thanks sifu

[@travissmith5258]

The key in watching this is to remember the reason he is stating that Wing Chun is more effective than wrestling is because he can strike, He could still defend himself for a short period of time without striking. Also he defended the centerline very well.

[@nezerac]

Wing Chun vs. MMA 1996

[@ArthurPonzarelli]

Wing Chun videos attract a lot of keyboard-warrior trolls.

[@jasonjackson5696]

Great video - I love how you kept the distance WITHOUT being able to strike. If you could strike, it would be a different outcome. Very nicely done, thank you.

[@tabletalk33]

+Jason Jackson Yes, that was exactly what he reminded us several times. He was operating WITHOUT strikes, punches, or various other dangerous methods of disabling an attacker (there are a great many of them). WITH them, these wrestlers would have been in a world of hurt. Wrestling, like boxing, is limited and controlled by its art and rules. A street fight is not.

[@chriscaie]

+tabletalk33 but a wrestler in a street fight is not going to be controlled by rules. a wrestler in a street fight is also going to use these "dangerous methods"

[@epr8974]

+tabletalk33 So the bottomline is that if he used his tools and the wrestlers kept the same limitations they had here, he would win... Nice! I'm going to find my closest wrestling gym right away.

[@martialartsfan7269]

What people tend to forget is that Wrestlers are strong as hell and they train body on body ALL THE TIME (unlike traditional martial artists). And just because a person is a wrestlers, it doesn't mean he/she does not know how to punch, kick, use pressure points, or use dirty street fighting. Wrestlers know submissions, elbow pressure point pins, and numerous other dangerous techniques. If anyone thinks a few punches will stop a solid athlete trained in combat arts like wrestling, that person will be in the world of hurt. I trained in traditional martial arts and was proud of my master's lineage. I heard stories of great battles and myths about masters that came before him. I'm sure 90% of those stories were grossly exaggerated or just plain lies. WHen faced with an athlete, unless a traditional martial artist is very athletic, he/she will be in the world of pain.

[@ninjayoucantseeme]

I agree with the fact that wrestlers get serious physical training, but there is one balanced martial art that can beat wrestling no matter how experienced the wrestler is and it is brazilian jiu jitsu, bc if they even get stuck in a pin you basically just put them in a shoulder lock via leverage

[@erikappleyard3510]

ninjayoucantseeme I would disagree with you on that. To say BJJ is a balanced martial art isn't entirely accurate. And while BJJ is VERY effective against freestyle wrestlers as MMA has demonstrated numerous times, there are a lot of catch wrestlers out there now that practice real cacc and are shifting BJJ out of the spotlight.

[@MrSilicon605]

Erik Appleyard TRUE BUT BJJ IS A COPY OF CACC WATCH BILLY ROBINSON INTERVIEW ON THE CHALLENGE FROM A SENIOR GRACIE VISITING HIS SCHOOL IN ENGLAND. CACC IS THE OLDEST FORM LONG B4 BJJ EVER EXISTED, TOO MUCH HYPE AS USUAL AND NOT ENOUGH TRUTH BEING BROUGHT HERE ON YT

[@cosmokramer7396]

To anyone who says that the reason you won't see Wing Chun in mma is because it wasn't meant for sporting contests: That's a copout;Most if not all martial arts were not meant to be used as sports, but nonetheless they were adapted to do so. When they were created, they had combat/self defense in mind , and when it was no longer necessary to fight, they modified their arts to suit sporting purposes.

[@1fitkbox]

exactly....almost every style of martial arts was made for self defence...all styles from karate to savate in original form have eye strikes, groin & throat strikes...but they all still compete....its a pure cop out from wingchun men...but then again...WC is a frawdulent style...if it ever competed it will always get flattened...that's why if it competes they always dump every single wingchun technique and they use western boxing, hard shin kicks, high kicks, sprawls etc...non of which are wingchun...one of the worst offenders for this is Alan Orr....his lads fight in mma and use pure muaythai, western boxing and bjj...but hes tells any 1 whol listen....his jab ,cross ,hook ,uppercut, thai clinch knees, head round round kick, sprawl ,arm bar....its all secret wingcun techniques he sez...they are all desperate to be accepted rather than admit they've wasted years training in shit

[@cosmokramer7396]

1fitkbox HOly shit dude, you're so right. If you ever get the chance, look up the "fight" with Emin Boztep and William Cheung. A couple of school girls, those two.

[@1fitkbox]

Cosmo Kramer yes ive seen the emin fight many times...Emin has done 5 year wrestling, had 15 amateur boxing fights and the same amateur muaythai fights...but he was always too frightened to fight in MMA and admits he told lots of exaggerated stories to get interest in himself...the chueng fight was a joke, both men supposed experts in a striking style called wingchun...yet the fight ended up on the floor in 6 seconds with both showing they had no grappling skills at all while rolling like school children in a playground scuffle ...imagine how quick a real mma man or grappler would have ended the fight..have you watched kakuda vs joe sayah... , joe was cheungs main fighting man, a doorman, body guard and later a top stunt man /actor doing films with jet li etc...kakuda holds the world record for smashing strapped to gether baseball bats with a shin roundhouse kick, I saw him smash 4 together at once 1 kick, now hes up to 8...joe was living proof wing chun works on only 3 sorts of people...drunks, retards and other wingchun men

[@1fitkbox]

Rick McCallister hahaha...honestly...what is it with wingchun men that cant find 1 decent wingchun man winnig a fight...so instead they watch fighters using different styles that do work and say brainless comments like what you say....wing chun "principles" hahahha...to a wingchun man...a boxer throwing a straight punch combo is using wingchun chain punchs hahaha....a savate man using a savate stomp to the knee/thigh ...is using a wingchun stomp....lol...wingchun is garbage....nothing it uses works...that why you watch fighting styles and say...MMA uses wingchun....you couldn't show me 1 decent fighter anywhere in the world from wingchun beating any boxer, mma, muaythai fighter, savate ,k1 or even judo, wrestler, bjj man....because they never will...wingchun isn't eeven an old style...max 300 year old, but Duncan leung sez that before his sifu there is no evidence of wingchun existing at all...making it about 100 year old. boxing and wrestling are worlds oldest styles with heirogliphics on pyramids at luxor....yet to you....mma men steal from wingchun...heehehe....what a muppet

[@1fitkbox]

Rick McCallister arrrr....still no links to any WC man using WC techniques to beat any skilled fighter....3 million WC men in the world....not 1 can win a fight....will I hold my breath waiting for a link....tick tock tick tock

[@Mr.White556]

Not quite sure what your point to this was! It most certainly couldn't have been to make a point that principles of wing chun can defend you from wrestling. I though this debate was well over!! You were virtually taken down every time by high school wrestlers. Again Im sorry if I missed the point to this video. Jits/wrestling with a combination of kickboxing, HARD TO BEAT!!!!

[@neutrino78x]

Phill Anderson wrote, "You were virtually taken down every time by high school wrestlers."

[@aky19832001]

It's a good video regardless. Very informative. Master Wong, " dis is a big pwobem" guy from england. I belive is able to better incorporate wing chun into fights and MMA. His videos clearly demonstrate it. Look up "Wing chun vs wrestling" He demonstrated that a traditional wing chun will get the " fuck beat of them, pwoabably". Folks keep saying that if he can hit it would be a different story, okay, but they guys are still making their way in and gaining control. And if they too can hit then it's game over for wing chun man.

[@rafaelsalazar6053]

At 6:21 if he really wanted to he would of slammed the fuck out of you and goodbye for you

[@ukaszgawryluk83]

WATCH THIS: UFC Jiu Jitsu grappler vs wing chun fighter.

[@ShadowManV3]

See the thing is with this video is you KNOW How to wrestle. Take someone who ONLY knows Wing Chun and they will fail 99% of the time time. Unless they train for wrestlers. Wing Chun wasnt made for grapplers in mind.

[@isaiahecorrea]

+Tom Fidas like

[@mdp38883]

that taught me that id rather be a good wrestler than a wing chung master.

[@ancientdarkness3102]

He wasn't doing any strikes, I'm not sure if he could have tho but maybe if he decided to strike him he would have had a chance

[@kaitsith3081]

I think the most deadly thing with a wrestler is that in a fight they will look like some random trying to box like he saw on tv but then unexpectedly shoot for the legs. Just as one could get clinched and think nothing of it but then realize that the opponent is a judoka. How can one truly know if an opponent is a wrestler in advance?

[@germanshepherdlover2613]

Yes, both Wrestlers and Judoka don't tend to telegraph what they are.....unlike strikers! BJJ appears to be similar.....even Japanese Jujitsu don't telegraph much.

[@MrSurfingdreamer]

Watch any MMA fight. Something interesting happens at a cool submission hold, hit pause to freeze the action. Take a look at the ‘victim.' You will notice that there is always a free hand usually holding onto the submitting limb of the opponent - essentially doing nothing useful to help the situation. You will also notice that 9 times out of 10 that free hand is in range of a vital area of the opponent (ie. the ears, eyes, throat, groin to name a few). So why doesn’t the victim reach back, grab the aggressor’s testicles and rip them off? Why doesn’t he reach up grab the ear and tear it off? Why didn’t he grab the opponent’s throat on the way, which was completely exposed and remove a few inches of the esophagus with a tiger claw or eagle claw or some other pincer type grip? Why didn’t he use the same grip with the opponent’s face right in front of him, as some other limb was in a submission hold, to grab the eyeball within the socket and remove the eye? The answer to all these questions is the same: Ha ha, you can’t do that, because it’s NOT ALLOWED in MMA. However, it is what happens in a real fight and Wing Chun Kung Fu.

[@BigMoik]

Hopefully you have grown out of believing this dumb shit over the years

[@jotaiqc18]

best way to stop a takedown ... flying knee in the face .

[@mark1983peace]

This shows that if you modify your wing chun stance and have a wrestling background, you might be able to hit him enough to piss him off a bit. then you get taken down every time as happened here

[@bjjsalzberry13]

Lets at least get one thing straight here, if someone goes in with the mind of strictly take down defense it will be more challenging for the offensive person. If you were allowed to strike they would also be allowed to strike. Hopefully they would mix their shots in with combinations to mess up the opponents timing. All that being said, Mad props for putting yourself out there!!

[@wargames5521]

so we can take from this that grappling works...considering they achieved the take down every single time??? ok...good to know

[@rcchristian2]

They actually did. He stopped them every single time in order to talk. You don't stop in the middle of sparring. He was gassed after a minute of real sparring... try doing that for 5 minutes.

[@hereswhatsleft]

If an experienced grappler gets a Russian on you like that, you won't have much time to "work the carotid". I keep hearing "What if I could strike?". The problem is that by striking you're opening up yourself even more for takedowns. Of course you have your weapons, but you're not exclusively focused on defense any longer either. Taking down someone with grappling experience (like OP) who is ONLY trying to defend is VERY difficult. I saw almost all of the breaks/switches coming here where the wrestlers had OP all but dead-to-rights for a takedown. I feel applaud you for exposing yourself here a little, but I can't help but feel there's a backhanded element here. All the "they can play their game but I can't play mine" and "what if we could strike?" business was being used as a rhetorical tool to insinuate that you'd be beating them if you could strike - which IMO is simply not true.

[@kungfuedward]

Nice to see a teacher putting himself out like this.

[@IzzoWingChun]

Painful too...those guys are tough.

[@HmongStoriestime]

Can Bruce Lee beat a wrestler in 10sec in a real fight?

[@HmongStoriestime]

Izzo Warrior Academy my research is can Mike Tyson beat Bruce Lee in a street fight ? How long it will take Bruce to ko Tyson

[@Shadowrulzalways]

Weight and Size doesn't matter. Bruce Lee has proven that. But I would say Bruce Lee cuz of his street fighting experience. Also he knows grappling so Tyson down.

[@bronzetiger3837]

These Trolls MISS THE POINT!! I usually dont think much of this dudes ability BUT I THINK HE DID A VERY GOOD JOB of showing his discipline against a grappler younger and stronger. Did they eventually get the take down? ?Sometimes. WOULD those centerline elbows and neck strikes have an effect? ?Bet your ass!!! Clowns need to remember; THIS AIN'T UFC!! THROAT STRIKES AND ELBOWS TO THE HEAD ARE EFFECTIVE. !WHAT HAPPENS WHEN A UFC FIGHTER IS even slightly flicked in the eyes??! HE STOPS. ALMOST ALWAYS AND ALWAYS IMMEDIATELY. 😉😂 NOW IMAGINE A FAST HANDED STRIKER REAL GOOD AT THAT SHIT?? GOOD JOB SIFU. YOU HAVE MY UTMOST RESPECT.

[@63doughnut]

I was impressed by the WC guys skills - he pretty much laid his belief on the line by going against two good grapplers. I'll only say that there's a possibility that if , instead of using his excellent 'anti-grappling' moves to stave off his opponents, he had to clinch with the wrestlers to land blows himself, he would perhaps be far more heavily tested. Much respect for this man's techniques ; I wish him well .

[@IzzoWingChun]

I am a fan of Ed and Ken too. They are unapologetic for who they are and their skill speaks for itself. Thank you for your amazing compliment!

[@mikeyee6339]

wing chun means 80% talk 20% practice unlikely going to run into straight wrestler who doesnt punch

[@witardedphuc]

Boondock Saint Probably more likely to run into a wrestler/grappler than say a boxer. Lots of them around since wrestling is a varsity sport.

[@suprabeyond5162]

Hey Guy Fieri, you do realize that you're stronger than them so why do you keep repeating that they're stronger. Height doesn't equal strength dummy. They're 18? maybe younger now now don't you understand how 18 year olds' haven't fully developed in terms of strength? Obviously you're bigger and bulkier/more muscle so why do you insist on saying their stronger? Is it to make your claims more valid? Oh yeah you kept two kids from taking you down for 5 sec, am I supposed to be impressed? Yeah if you could hit them it'll make a difference but realize that they're kids and if you got a grown adult it'll be different. So I don't know much about you but I ASSUME your a master at your arts (wing chun) so why not get a D1 collegiate wrestler who is also more or less a "Master" at his art (wrestling). I guarantee you'll be on your ass faster than you can say "Bruce Lee can't take a punch." Now all jokes aside, how bout you not pick on kids and get someone who is actual threat, which is funny cuz you've pretty much lost to these two kids and they're barely anything.

[@1fitkbox]

Come on izzo....we know you can wrestle....no WC man in the world sprawls or drops his hips to counter wrestlers....you do it because your pretty much using 50-60% wrestling technique to beat the wrestler...when on 1 leg...your using wrestling defence...when hes pummeling in...your using wrestling defence...your lower in stance wrestling style...take your wrestling knowledge away...fight is over very quick...while we,r happy your a better WC man and realistic than most out there...why don't you just title clip..."wrestling defence added to WC to help stop the wrestler"..because that's what this is..WC is garbage...put a clip up sparring a muaythai pro or a pro mma man...

[@pseudobeatnick]

I agree with Helio, and believe he said it best when he brought up the fact that if you were to be striking so would your opponent. Also, you seemed to shower these kids with flattery about their strength and speed. That's fine and dandy, but NEITHER of those kids are heavier than you. They may have less body fat and therefor more muscle density, but you're extremely thick and appear very strong yourself. Also, they're still KIDS. And you my friend are NOT. You are a man, and one that has wrestled, and one that dedicated his life to fitness, so whoever buys into the whole "they're stronger than me, bigger than me, faster than me" nonsense is very, very naive. You have something called MAN STRENGTH, and they do not. This might've been more credible if you had used college or ADULT FILA wrestlers instead of teenagers. I wrestled in high school and have done submission grappling for close to 30 years. I'm 39 now, and when I go help out with the wrestling team at my former high school one of the advantages I have on almost all the kids in the room is that I AM stronger. And I'm only 180lbs at 6'1. I'm typically stronger than kids that are even 10-20 heavier than me. Some of them are a faster, and of course all of them are younger, but stronger... Yeah um, not so much. And Nico and Ernesto seemed to be getting in on you quite easily. And a lot of the slaps you were using are NOT allowed in high school folk style wrestling. Most of what you used seemed plausible, but definitely not all of it. And again, most wrestlers aren't afraid to strike in an NHB or street fight. And most wrestlers hit fucking hard from all the strength and conditioning training. I do appreciate your humility, dedication, and your obvious desire to learn. I've always said that no martial art is "bad" and it's great to learn as much as you can from as many styles as you can.

[@thejinn99]

It seems people watching this video are asking different questions and so are getting different answers. So all the people who ask, "what martial arts is better/best" aren't really getting what this video is about. It isn't trying to figure out something for example, "what is the better/best kicker in kickball or soccer". There is no best, the players in those games have different objectives. Yes, they both want to win, but they are trying to win differently. The kind of question Mr. Izzo is asking is, "what can i apply that i know in WC in a grapple type of situation". Otherwise, what's the point of asking the question at all? Obviously wrestling will be better at wrestling, and WC will be better at strikes.

[@ZENIGMATV]

Everyone rips this guy but I respect his opinions. Initially Wing Chun will stop a half hearted shoot but a wrestler that commits hard to a double leg or body lock will eventually get you down unless you're maybe BJ Penn or Gene La Bell.

[@carritohmc]

I think the "what if I could hit" wouldn't make this any better. I find actually striking an opponent is the best opportunity to get taken down yourself. I don't understand why many Wing Chun practitioners don't just learn a bit of wrestling, bjj or judo and incorporate it to their respective style, Bruce Lee did it. I used to box, and do no gi bjj, got wrecked by wrestlers and judokas, then I just did Judo and wrestling for a bit, and incorporated it into my body of knowledge. What's the big deal about that? Side note though, at least this guy was able to bring in some wrestlers, many others won't even do that and go on about hypotheticals.

[@heymelon]

If you throw one of your lame arm punches here you would just go down quicker? You cant push on his face and underhook his arm and punch at the same time can you? The punch you would land , (if it would land) from that posture and range would do nothing but piss the guy off anyway. Jesus this is amazingly basic stuff. Can't believe anyone is buying this.

[@StudSupreme]

Need to take this farther: 1. How to neutralize and thwart a grappling attack instead of just trying to block/prevent it. 2. What to do once a takedown is achieved. 3. How to redirect the takedown energy to put the opponent at severe disadvantage. 4. How to so badly defeat/thwart a takedown attempt that it creates a psychological hurdle in the opponent's mind, making him believe he should not try it again. Stated differently: turn his strength into a perception of weakness/futility.

[@retroghidora6767]

Bee a a while since I commented. Now that I understand how the internet feels about wing chun I regret my earlier overly aggressive comments. Now I know 2 things 1) there is overwhelming evidence that wing chun is applicable 2) internet martial artists/mma allow some weird bias or vendetta against wing chun to completely ignore said evidence and completely ignore logical arguements. Among these anti WC people who claim to be martial artists, who claim to be adults, I've heard such things as" yeah let's run this fraud off the internet" and " the chun is strong with that one". For anyone doubting Mr Izzo, he spent his high school and college years wrestling, he also has a background in boxing and law enforcement. He knows what it takes to survive in the real world. In this video he said he had multiple opportunities to strike, others have said the kids could have easily hit back given the opportunity, these people are clearly speaking from a biased view as it is obvious that both kids were committing both arms and at times their entire bodies to bringing him down, Mr Izzo is aware of this but others refuse to see it.

[@carlosa9447]

The name of the video was a little poor as you didn't really beat these wrestlers. Plus most people will see the title of this video and assume that its the standard Wing Chun master talking about how he will just step back and chain punch a wrestlers face into the ground or other such nonsense. That said I was relatively impressed with the video. Less because of any techniques but more because of how you approached it. You are actually testing your stuff against a wrestler and sure you would have been taken down every time but you got yourself a few more seconds in the process. Testing and refining Wing Chun by sparring should eventually improve Wing Chun as it changes and Adapts. Hopefully then we will be able to take the parts of Wing Chun that works and use them more often and throw away some of the less practical parts we may end up with Wing Chun being a useful and well respected art such as Boxing or Muay Thai. Instead of an Art where you can safely assume most practitioners have never thrown a punch against someone trying to punch them back. I really hope you keep sparring and testing your stuff.

[@therealawakener7]

From an unawares state of desperation does the distorted man cling to his 'this' & 'that' arguments in order to justify his beloved long term delusions of combat. Its always somewhat painful to watch a blind man fumble his way through a deaf mans record collection in order for a dumb man to try and sing them on a broken Karaoke machine:-).

[@DevineRentals]

Dude, I'm trying to copy paste your comment onto my facebook but I'm getting no love! I can't stop laughing (in a good way).

[@MrSilicon605]

***** BE A BIT MORE MATURE, THEY ARE JUST INEXPERIENCED KIDS BEING TRAINED BY AN OVER RATED INSTRUCTOR. HE SHOULD CHALLENGE A COUTURE OR KURT ANGLE TO TRULY TEST HIS SKILL, NOT BEGINNERS. PITIFUL DISPLAY ON THEIR PART.

[@nohbdy1122]

As a Wing Chun man you have to sprawl against a double leg takedown, then you can start delivering strikes to the back of the neck, throat, or head. Just because it's the same leg takedown defense in other martial arts doesn't mean you're no longer using Wing Chun, from the Wing Chun perspective it's just protecting your center. No need to make up new takedown defenses that won't work just because it's Wing Chun.

[@AnthonyMazzarella]

so this would be an experiment. take an mma guy that has trouble defending take down and introduce him to wing chung the to help him stop the take down. document the results in a video, MMA is a great testing ground because it has limited rules and allows fighters from all different back grounds. Im not trying to "call you're bluff" i am just curious.

[@beeatoms]

he wouldn't have a chance in a real fight against a HS wrestler.

[@intfstft]

thats because he let them control his wrists and arms....one of the main things a wing chun practitioner does

[@wargames5521]

Ok so, the reason why this is a pipe dream is because in a real fight or mma or whatever, shots are being thrown and levels are being changed, there is A LOT of take down defense work that can be channeled through all sorts of styles, the point is that you have to perform it in real time and against others timing structures. It doesn't work..flat out..just doesn't work. The best take down defenses are overcome ALL the time.

[@bravozulu8881]

The Chinese writing in the background is embarrassingly amateurish and written by someone with no knowledge of the proper way of writing Chinese. Please replace it with better writing as it makes your Dojo look very bad.

[@chrisschroeder6165]

That was dumb. Those wrestlers used no head manipulation to set up their takedowns. Get a good wrestler in there to put you on your back and beat you up. Sorry, but Wing Chun is not practical at all.

[@changeroomindiefilm]

Im sure you good at your practice, but to sum it up Bjj takes all. I respect all forms of art, and Wing Chun in itself is a great system for self defence. But in a cage against a grappler theres very little chance of survival.

[@xeniahemsworth856]

Multiple head and neck strikes before the grappler can get inside

[@tabletalk33]

+Xenia Hemsworth That's my thinking. No good martial artist in a street fight is going to allow himself to be taken down this way. You might add some kicks, too. His inventory of weapons will destroy any wrestler before he can get his grip. But this wasn't a street fight, so it just wasn't possible for him to use all his methods because somebody was bound to get seriously hurt.

[@allany27]

Wing Chung as as all Chinese martial arts were created for real fights situations where is was normal to use blades to kill your enemies and chances are that your enemies came with friends, if you take the blades away it favors all the wrestling arts, but for all of us that come from the streets we know that we have to remain and fight on our feet and not take anyone down because our enemies friend can just come from behind and Crack a bottle on our head or stub you from behind, so guys as you see wrestling which is a sport was created for a sport control setting, if you are going to fight one on one, empty handed fight the wrestler with wrestling, with Brazilian juice jitsu, with wink Chung , with kick boxing end of the story

[@shaunhunter7474]

HEY IZZO. I THINK YOU SHOULD INVITE TONY WATTS FROM KZbin AND CHALLENGE HIM IN WING CHUN KUNG FU. IF NOT YA'LL COULD CHAT ABOUT WING CHUN KUNG FU.

[@Larrymh07]

Reasonable and helpful, but I'd lose the profanity. It cheapens your otherwise good video.

[@coolhari2000]

I think this question of striking vs grappling was answered back in the 90s. It's time to incorporate a rounded game.

[@tonygambino5905]

Obviously sometimes one would win and sometimes the other, depending on skill and luck. But overall wrestlers have the advantage.

[@mikecross1709]

A good martial artist doesnt restrict himself to one style. He compensates for his weakenesses with other styles in order to have a strong defense as well as an offense. Hence why most opt for brazilian jiu jitsu and judo, turning defense into offense.

[@21stcenturycaveman33]

This is complete bullsh*t. The WC guy would get his arse kicked in a real scrap against these wrestlers. They'd take him to the floor and he'd be in submission in no time. Quite apart from the fact that he's so out of shape his lungs would be screaming in no time at all. A more proficient WC practitioner may fare better but in my opinion would lose against the wrestler/grappler probably every time.

[@toxickremedy]

This is why I can't take competition in martial arts. There were so so many instances where someone could have kicked a head in due to an all out commitment of the head to the ground.

[@ScoopDizzleSR]

ummm. every situation looks like he'll eventually get stomped, beat down, or destroyed. lol its kinda funny

[@AdrianTheSecondBruceLi55]

awesome vid man! I know in videos like this one alot of people will be like " bring real wrestlers' or " they arent trying hard" but you actually put yourself out there to demo and that is whats great bout your vids! Learnt alot !

[@IzzoWingChun]

Thanks for the comment. Commenters must remember, this is what we had to work with. And I worked with 2 of them back to back...20 years younger than me. And who said that a 18 year old attacker is any less dangerous than a 38 year old one or if you ever get to pick the age of your enemy? Nothing is ever good enough for some youtube critics.

[@epr8974]

Gets the single, raises, call a break before the inevitable trip or slam coming in... I'm starting to see a pattern here.

[@doortech2004]

lesson of the day... go home and invite 15 year olds to come by and beat the crap out of you.

[@adamteverbaugh9146]

I don't know to much about Wing Chun but it looked like wrestling. You were backing out stalling and when they did get in on you. Your counter argument was "if I could strike" two things A: You would have been on your back before you could strike. The tall one hit you with a sweet high crotch, and single leg or was in a deep double leg position. B: You were on one leg, falling backwards, or moving backwards to avoid the takedown how mustard could you get on a strike to be effective?

[@2rok334]

Absolutely right, adaption is everything. That's my problem with this. I hate MMA guys that basically say everything that isn't MMA sucks, but the only thing I hate more than that are WC guys that refuse to adapt. NEWS FLASH: The MMA argument does have, to some extent, a point. So what you gonna do? Refuse to accept this? Or are you going to adapt? Sifu Wang Zhi Peng said that we must co-operate with MMA people, so we can learn how to defeat new enemies and new techniques.

[@JoaoTeniko]

i'm not saying that if you know wing chun you are invencible, but knowing other styles personaly I think wing chun in close combat is very effective even against a jiu-jitsu guy. Remember bruce lee words, be like water an try to adapt to any situation and be yourself. Good video by the way thanks for sharing your knowledge ;)

[@tiffsaver]

What interesting fiction this is. I'd LOVE to see this Guy Fieri look-alike try to defeat my teacher, Rorian Gracie. He'd hand his head to him without breaking a sweat.

[@pjkiger]

You might want to look up how your teacher's first name is spelled, before you start making matches for him.

[@kehhvin]

being a purist in any art can leave you closed minded and delusional.

[@IzzoWingChun]

Or make you the best at it.

[@kehhvin]

the best at being closed minded and delusional?

[@IzzoWingChun]

Thank you! Give me a break tho! I am almost 40 and there's two of them! hahahaha!

[@hannobotha8058]

Good video, if this was a real fight and not a 'wrestling match' Wing Chun would have prevailed. I saw numerous openings where you could have strike them continuously in the face.

[@johnpeters7044]

sure.....I wonder why no professional boxer or MMA fighter catches or blocks punches with this nonsense? Because it doesn't work...These are children...What a joke .."I qualified for sectionals"-oh, boy...isn't that special...LOL

[@superstar1218]

The energy have to used effectively. They eventually would have taken him down. If you would've combined kicks in the first 5 to 10 seconds it wouldv'e been over.

[@superstar1218]

To be used I meant.