Bill Burr | Horizon

Bill recommends Kevin Costners' new film Horizon
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[@0xyartes]

"Gun fights, genocide, tities" then a chuckle... might be one of my favorite Burr lines ever.😂

[@machetedonttweet1343]

I'm tunnin in fo the titties🤗🤗🤑🤪

[@dannysanchez9919]

Put it on the marketing campaign 😂

[@a.s.4991]

It should be part of the title" horizon: gun fights, titties and genocide"

[@daveclark8337]

Phone rings- "Hey Bill, this is Kevin Costner. Would you like to invest $80 million into the production of Horizon Chapter 3? I'll even put you in the movie!"

[@richardrobbins387]

"Can I still keep my accent?"

[@qtheband751]

Too late. Netflix has already invested.

[@rztricky]

Bill Burr is correct. This is incredible filmmaking. And it will be about 1 year until everyone feels dumb as f

[@kermitwilson]

“We’ll call you Kid Boston!”

[@secretsquirrel7192]

“Hey, get the fuck outta my face, ya outlaw, before I plug ya!”

[@Rockstar-bq5fm]

It’s old school, it’s the kind of movie my grandad and uncle would watch with me growing up. I hope his sequel makes it to the cinema. Costner is at least going for it trying to make something that’s a grand epic

[@ojisankusai]

"I'd take that movie up against anything Costner has ever done, it's that good" CUTS TO THE POSTMAN

[@raywalsh9152]

Hey! The Postman is a great movie. I'll stand my ground on that hill. Waterworld as well. Not everything has to be fucking Ghandi.

[@jakespeed43]

​@raywalsh9152 just because you Like a Bad movie.. that doesn't make the Acting Good. 😅

[@raywalsh9152]

And how many films have you appeared in @jakespeed43? And what, according to you, would constitute a "bad movie"? And I would love an example of an actor in one of those bad movies. Jesus.

[@thenarrator1984]

​@@jakespeed43the postman is a masterpeice. The acting. The filmography. The plot All of it. Brilliant.

[@jakespeed43]

@thenarrator1984 yeah That's why the World laughed at it when it was released. but you wouldn't know. you weren't even Alive yet. Have a good day.

[@Brian_Boru]

Kev baby, never doubted ya. Horizon is truly great.

[@johnmetermaid]

kathy bates explaining it better than bill was gold

[@matt200matt]

Agree, 3 hour movie that went by very quickly. I felt Costner was trying to give an authentic representation of the panorama of life in the west in the second half of the 1800s, so there are multiple story lines, which people complained didn't link up, but that's how life is, all our stories don't link up. Still I found it engaging. Definitely will be watching part two. My two sons, who are in their twenties all rated it highly.

[@ashroskell]

I think Bill Burr nailed it. Costner operates independently, outside the studio system. And the studios have the power to lean on the, “critics,” to punish him for not being their, “team player.”

[@Whaddayamean13]

Precisely. I don’t read any critics anymore and I’ve blocked aggregate sites like Rotten Tomatoes and this other nonsense

[@PiCheZvara]

Amazing how tin foil hats make a conspiracy out of everything.

[@ashroskell]

James Russo was the corrupt sherif in Open Range. Also with Costner. He’s awesome.

[@MrInbetween969]

“WE AIN’T OURSELVES YET!!!”

[@ashroskell]

@@MrInbetween969 : And he got his horse shot from under him in Django unchained. Broke his leg. Got a quote maybe?

[@gingernightmare9152]

He was also a baddie in Mississippi Burning.

[@pressman1788]

He tries to rob a convenience store at the end of Fast Times at Ridgemont High

[@starwarsmcu-og6109]

Its a really good movie, glad I seen it on the big screen

[@GTH321]

I loved this movie so far. It’s like cinema used to be. A great love letter to the western cinema.

[@MrBoriqua2000]

Fun fact, James Russo was the armed robber at the end of Fast Times At Ridgemont High that got the coffee thrown in his face. "Awesome, totally awesome"

[@Maximusdecismusmeridus]

I'm a lot younger than Bill but I remember James Russo in a move with Farrah Fawcett in a movie called Extremities. Where her played a rapist who had initially tried to rape Farrah Fawcett's character. She goes to the police and they do not really help her. Then he breaks into her house and tries to attack her again. But she's able to subdue him, but she's afraid the police won't believe her, as the rapist says as much. So she basically debates killing him outright.

[@estherblount6475]

It was good and I liked the fact that it shows how people made money by selling land over and over again.

[@SlickNik94]

Wow, The Critic! Seriously underrated animated show.

[@cody8804]

I saw Horizon it’s really hard to review or recommend bc it really is 1/4 of the story even though it’s three hours. It ends abruptly with none of the stories resolved. It’s not a bad thing though it’s just tough to have a solid opinion on. It ends more in a tv style than something like the original Star Wars movies which any of those can stand on their own separately. Again not a bad thing just different. I enjoyed it and there’s some jaw dropping beautiful nature shots. It’s just a lot like trying to tell someone they will love a tv show when there’s only one episode out

[@jimmycakes7158]

Why does Costner expect people to go to the cinema to watch a 3 hour movie that is written and paced like the first episode of a TV series. Dances with wolves is 3 hours

[@peacexlove]

I wanna see it now.

[@cody8804]

@@jimmycakes7158 it’s clear it isn’t a show by all the money on the screen and all the amazing photographic shots. I’m not mad at him for trying something new. I mean Star Wars and Harry Potter are like 9 movies not 4. The first two horizons were supposed to be back to back and the last two come out a couple years apart but idk what’s going on now

[@daveclark8337]

At this point, we know it's never going to be finished, so why waste $20 and 3 hours? It's like starting to read a novel knowing the back half of it is missing. That being said I'll still probably check it out on Max in a few weeks....

[@cody8804]

@@daveclark8337 three out of the four parts are finished. If I had to guess I think the next two will be on a streaming platform and he’ll have to finish the last part with a reduced budget. Much much worse has been financed with people way less talented and proven than Kevin Costner

[@kipperrepublic3568]

Refreshing to hear a good review for this film. All the critics are pretty much slamming it. Look forward to watching and making up my own mind.

[@BobbyFett3994]

They’re slamming it because they’re a bunch of emos and soyboys. There’s always Barbie 2. Or another Twilight movie.

[@dbob3405]

If Burr likes it, I’m in. Both Burr and Bill Hader are two guys that made their initial careers as comics but have been very good as actors and both have deep knowledge of film combined with great aesthetic instincts and taste. Thanks for turning me onto a film I would have probably avoided.

[@stephengrigg5988]

5:34 😂😂 when Brendan becomes the most sensitive man who ever lived in 'Bedazzled'. It's hilarious because the girl he loves writes in her diary all she wants is a sensitive man, so he becomes the perfect form of what she wished for... and she immediately leaves him for some douche 😂

[@SonnyListon-xz5oj]

Bill Burr doesn't blow BS. It's a Great Movie.

[@martinwalton9307]

Jon Beavers, the big, tall shit kicking old brother villain is really good in it too, could make him a star.

[@BobbyFett3994]

Indeed.💯👍🏾

[@ruthafritap]

I think the hate on this movie is mostly because people is repulsed by Costner’s gut. They hate him for having the money to go against the system & not having to bow down or adhere to any rules. They hate him for being able to do anything that he wants. Costner’s existence is a threat to people’s conventional wisdom & beliefs on how a movie is supposed to be-the run time it should be, the format, the ratio, the pacing, the number of characters, the media. Costner shits on all those rules & that’s why people are hating on the movie. But it’s actually a damn good movie. I saw it twice in the theatre. 2nd viewing was even better. The cinematography is beautiful, that walk uphill between Costner & Jamie C. Bower will be a CLASSIC. People will regret not seeing this in the theatre.

[@gregoryjenkins8645]

🫡 Indeed. 🫸🏿🫷

[@maryabbott8344]

I agree with you about the movie! I loved it both times I saw it. Never seen such a great movie ….. why do people choose not to go see it?

[@BobbyFett3994]

@@maryabbott8344 “Horizon” is a great film. Costner is a threat to today’s Hollywood. “Bow down to us. Preach this agenda or else…” He’s everything today’s Hollywood and emo critics currently dislike: wealthy, white guy, finances his own film, not politically correct, not LGBTQ.

[@dancahill9585]

I think the hate came from the nature of it being part 1 of 4 where there were a lot of story lines, that probably pay off in the future, but really didn't pay off in Episode 1. It makes for a long (3 Hours) and unfocused movie. I suspect it would have made a better miniseries than movie. I'm not surprised it didn't do well at the box office due to bad word of mouth. To me it's a movie I'd rather watch after all 4 parts are out. I'll probably skip all other parts until every part is out. If they are going to make a 12 hour movie, I'll wait until they release a 12 hour movie.

[@nidhibr]

That Breaking Bad/ Saul cut 🤌

[@TheGreyPilgrim28]

Part 2 no longer comes out in August.

[@mikeadams8027]

Yep. Not enough box office for first one.

[@blaheedsimmons2226]

are you fuccin serious 😂

[@Reginald_Harrison]

The box office was abysmal. I have to think a good portion of the people who saw Chapter 1 aren’t going to pay to see Chapter 2, including myself. I thought it was garbage.

[@paulelroy6650]

@@Reginald_Harrison why did you find it garbage?

[@cesarc.4230]

At the end of back to the future 2 they showed clips of back to tge future part 3.

[@Maximusdecismusmeridus]

I agree with Bill, and really hope the rest of the franchise gets to see the light of day.

[@ToddSauve]

Part two is already shot and part three started shooting in May. So it is hard to imagine all four parts won't get made. Costner will make a ton of money from streaming part one, so rest easy bro.

[@BetaBuxDelux]

It was a great movie. Of course, I was in a theater where I could have a couple beers whilst I watch it. I felt all sides were portrayed fairly so I can’t wait to see how it unfolds.

[@frankparrish7887]

Another thing Bill Burr and I have in common! Fastest 3 hrs. I ever spent in a theater!

[@MrJayehawk]

I watched it and it was good. But I like westerns and don't mind long movies. The problem is hoping that people would want to go watch a 3-hr movie in theatres in the summer, in addition to going in aware that it's not the complete story and more would be coming later. It's unlikely that a mass audience would be interested in that, not in this Tik-Tok attention-span era we currently live in. I understand the love of movie-making and wanting it to be seen on the big screen, but I'm sure more people would take to it as a multi-part mini-series on a streaming platform.

[@jadedaces]

It’s unfortunate, but you’re not wrong. I’m wondering where it’ll land between classic status “How the West was Won” & cult like “Once Upon a Time in the West.” Despite the attention spans of a majority of the America’s modern audience, I, personally, am looking forward to every installment after seeing the first. I love this genre.

[@BobbyFett3994]

I think “Horizon” Chapter 1 should have been released in the first week of fall. Then, release Chapter 2 just before Thanksgiving.

[@frederickrobinson7006]

Horizon was a Great film. Can't wait for the others to hit. And by the way, OLD DADS was hilarious!

[@Super_tramp142]

It really should have been a tv series. An episode for each set of characters in the movie. Impossible to follow coherently. I love a western and I love costner’s body of work but unless chapter 2 pulls it out of the bag then I’m afraid I still think Dances with Wolves is his best work.

[@ToddSauve]

Put you brain in gear and decide you are going to actually think when you go to see a movie like this. If you can't follow it coherently you are just saying that so you can belly-ache. Anyone with an IQ over 80 can follow this movie easily.

[@stephengrigg5988]

1:40 Yoooooo😂😂 10/10 edit

[@timebandit1266]

Its a beautiful shot movie and intriguing story. Cant wait for part 2 and 3.

[@janeth3139]

As a female I’m probably a unicorn, but I really liked it and I hope they can get the money together to finish all the parts and release it in theaters. I’ll be happy if they can even finish it for streaming. I just want to see how it ends.

[@Stefano.C]

Henry was an intense movie, saw it recently on tubi

[@isuriadireja91]

In agreement w my man, Bill..!! While it might not be the most exciting, ground breaking movie today, Horizon 1 really does bring back the majesty and coolness of the westwern genre while still give us worts and all...and move the genre forward.

[@Armoroffelix]

I live in Saint George and yes it looks like that here

[@mitrooper]

Multichannel Video DVD... 1,000's To Choose From!!!

[@UltimaPowers]

The editing here is top notch.

[@IzzySoDope]

@@UltimaPowers it flickered at the beginning 😒 new software 😅

[@TEMINIX]

No. Around 1:32 he left a clip in from the video store clip that plays next. Bad editing actually.

[@UltimaPowers]

@@TEMINIX Well that invalidates the other 99.9% of the video then.

[@seanmac9578]

It actually is a good movie.

[@selinakyle2368]

It should be a tv series

[@stephengrigg5988]

​@@selinakyle2368it's called "chapter 1". I assume they're going to do more

[@bobsandwich3431]

Nah it sucks

[@Reginald_Harrison]

As a fan of westerns, I thought it sucked. Too many characters with zero character development. Too many storylines with barely a thread tying them all together.

[@bpal7006]

Thank you. I guess we look for the opinions we want to hear. Because on imdb user reviews, it’s up snd down. But it’s my kind of movie. I like Costner.(Dances will wolves was so good I went t and bought the book as a youth. And reading books was FAR down my list of things. And that understating it). But I haven’t watched Yellowstone(probably won’t at this point). I hope this is good. I’m kind of sad it didn’t kill at the box office as it looks epic. Thanks for quick approval of it. It high on my list.

[@powertrip1050]

awesome....looking forward to Horizon....and you almost said "c***s" properly - very, very good for a yank!

[@joecamel1079]

You got me at gunfights and tities that's what us 80s kids grew up on 💯👍

[@toochangz]

Going to see it tomorrow

[@generalconsensus2518]

Old dads was fucking great.

[@alanledzep1967]

Thank you Izzy 🙏

[@-C.S.R]

Way too many characters! It's three hours of them pretty much introducing everyone and you get very little of their story. The horrible editing doesn't do any justice because it leaves large chunks out, so all of a sudden your months ahead in the timeline and you don't even know how you got there. Horizon does have potential if it was a miniseries and each episode could dive more into the characters and and their backstory so you could actually care about them. C-

[@ToddSauve]

Come off it! What do you want from a 12 hour movie? It is an epic production! If you can't handle that then you should have noticed that part one is actually three hours long, and so are the next three parts. Go watch the newest Marvel piece of baloney where you can put your mind in park and not have to think.

[@nicolasgasquoine]

4:10 he almost said liberals instead of critics, or to describe the critics 😂 I think he’s doing a nice job promoting/hyping up the movie. He brings up a good point about giving a movie a chance and not always believing the hype.

[@andystegall7407]

The amount of tiptoeing Bill is doing in this review is rather sad. He's afraid to say anything controversial these days

[@ABlackMan9]

Love Burr but let’s be honest…Old Dads was a bad movie lol Not everything that’s anti-woke is good (in fact it in itself is actually becoming annoying). And K Costner has a tendency to make boring ass movies that should be exciting. For example, dances with wolves and Field of Dreams 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@GuineaPigEveryday]

My dad watched this and hated it, first hour great, exciting, well-paced, good stakes, then devolving into this schmaltzy cartoonish sentimental bs. And i have to agree, it has sitcom levels of overly comedic moments between characters and really dragging its feet with every scene, padding the story out so much that nothing of importance happens much of the time, did we really need soldiers stealing a bed or glaring at a naked women or this laughably silly blonde-haired villain chatting away at Costner’s character. I liked it a lot better when it focused on the town that got attacked and them trying to rebuild, also the scenes with the Native Americans were really good, also great attention to detail and care put into the backgrounds of every shot. Can’t fault Costner on the production quality. But the direction and writing, is really dragging it down, it really is a shame becuz everyone is doing their best clearly making this movie and Costner is turning it into his vanity project

[@dwaynecole6636]

I agree. Great movie. Unfortunately, it didn't do well at the box office. I guess since it's not from a comic book.

[@GreyCrowe]

Its like a Marvel movie for western lovers. Romanticizes all the evils of Manifest Desitny and leaves the historically realistic details light af. Dances With Wolves was much more honest.

[@thomashowardmd247]

Loved it. Great movie. Can't wait to see all four. Bill Burr is right about criticism being agenda driven and this is why we can't have nice things anymore.

[@wjk0624]

What? Is this a parody? I love Costner and westerns and went opening night and this will be up with the worst movies ever made. It’s a mess.

[@hob976]

Loved this movie... but I don't think the second movie is still gonna be in theaters.

[@ponya3.66]

Kevin Cozner, phD

[@SCharlesDennicon]

Aaaaah, Bill, the American comedian who wasn't aware of Once Upon a Time in the West's existence until he reached like fifty... sure, let's talk about "classics".

[@colinglen4505]

That movie is too slow and deathly dull at times; also, Jason Robards was totally miscast as an outlaw gang leader. He came across more like a benevolent old uncle. However, there was some good music and Claudia Cardinale looked gorgous.

[@skillet9141]

Great ending… as usual. 😄

[@dannyjoebrown4611]

Burr nails it, again.

[@richardbertrand2770]

You are right, it took a little while ot get going but after the first hr, it really took off

[@joeodonnell921]

Well you heard the man get your arses off the firesticks out the house and go support the second movie in the cinema!! 🤠

[@cnh1710]

"I know that, mister man"

[@xburk]

It was awful wtf

[@Flyguy9]

@5:30 😂 fucking hilarious

[@shrekwes8119]

The movie abruptly cuts into a trailer/montage out of now where with no warning, to the point it seems like it’s the final scene of the film and not a preview. Ending shot of the movie is a zoom in on a characters face we have never seen before

[@Redclxxd]

That ending was truly awful. An extended trailer spoiling things in part 2. The film deserved to bomb and get cancelled tbh

[@shrekwes8119]

@@Redclxxd they are reinventing movies

[@rickg8015]

Kevin should hire Billy Baggins to promote this more for Chapter 2..

[@rickg8015]

FWIW, The guys at Film Threat (YT channel) loved this western..

[@georgecisneros5281]

Horizon: Zero Audience😆

[@reddeserted13]

It's good. I enjoyed it.

[@frasermaguire]

Old dads is one of my favourite movies in the last 10yrs

[@lambknot]

Nicely done

[@KellyG9879]

Great movie

[@joeydavis9951]

Yo Izzy Appreciate you Bill the homie

[@vvblues]

I saw it this past weekend. Great movie. Long, but good.

[@triangleman2k6]

The media has been going hard at this movie. Variety is just putting out hit pieces

[@colddirtybastard]

You clowns and your conspiracies

[@stevensatanson]

Ended the video perfectly, kudos

[@Pokucollector]

My dad couldn't watch it lol. He was upset that the apache attack at night was so dark he couldn't see any of the attack. That's the point of realism. They attacked at night for that advantage. Also he didn't like how kostner wasn't in it much and gave up. I'm stoked for part 2

[@gjpotter]

The editing and pacing of Horizon is disjointed. It abruptly jumps from story to story leaving out key plot details. After just about every scene the viewer is left trying to make sense of what they just watched and how it relates to the overall plot.

[@ToddSauve]

Well then put on your thinking cap and expend a little effort when it comes to seeing the movies.

[@stephenmerriman1701]

i loved it also .

[@johnochiltree1170]

Should’ve cut to Waterworld! Movie is amazing

[@theshogunstein6475]

I saw it twice!

[@jonathanradnidge3368]

Never seen Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer but I just rather Ed being young and having a movie on vhs I watched repeatedly and one of the trailers on it was Henry and it used to scare the shit out of me. It was back when trailers looked dark and gritty and you had that guy doing the voiceovers sounding like he had glass in his throat

[@stephannelson8780]

Amazing movie

[@Rhemaboy54]

Great movie.

[@terrymaguire7647]

Genocide and Titties in the same sentence was a new one for me. I bet i would love this movie as well Bill. You are a very different type of movie critic which I appreciate.

[@katlap3101]

I loved it too

[@CynsCorner]

Part 2 isn't coming out in August anymore because of how poorly part 1 performed. I saw this last week and was disappointed in it overall. 😞

[@LukeLovesRose]

Its a great movie. Its the first chapter of a bigger story

[@bigsam653]

Movie would have been a lot better if he told one story at a time. The editing was plain messy. I think it was well acted and was engaging but I think the decision to tell 3 stories at the same time and not get anywhere close to finishing them was a bad move. They should have just left out the Luke Wilson part until part 2 because why are we being introduced to new characters 3/4 into the movie?

[@jaywylde]

Bill, you are absolutely correct, great movie!

[@RabbiSteve1]

I loved this movie. And feel bad that Chapter 2 has been pulled. I hope he gets to release the whole thing somehow

[@ToddSauve]

Part two will come out once he figures part one has made enough money and the critics go get a life.

[@Robert-fx3ng]

Netflix is going to invest and show the rest of the storyline. They (Netflix) is suggesting it be turned into a series like Yellowstone.

[@jodi2847]

Part 2 is delayed, sorry Bill. Bad box office.

[@ToddSauve]

So what? Go enjoy it anyway.

[@hyroot]

I loved it. I took the ending as a nod to the Back to the Future 3 trailer at the end of Back to the Future 2. Also nice on The Critic reference

[@trendyblendsicecream2775]

couldnt agree more, and a real shame that these people wield such influence still. Horizon felt it was like Lonesome Dove (one of the great western mini series) but for cinema. The part one of lonesome was a lot of set up, same with this movie, but still was great. I think the difference is this starts with separate stories that will end up integrating where as lonesome was kind of the opposite, hope all 4movies gets made, will love to be able to watch marathon some day.

[@deplorabledave1048]

Good. Not great. looking forward to part 2 and part 3. But Taylor Sheridan still rules. The narrative alone in 1883 is POETIC and epic.

[@jonathanulaszek492]

Omg, whomever made this....assuming not AI.....wow. Well done. 👍

[@adamhayes2528]

Don't want to ruin the movie....3 hr long ACT 1 and SETUP...nothing to ruin billy boi

[@keithpatrick156]

I was in when it was announced (Costner...epic...Western), and even after reading bad reviews. I love it - it's genuinely moving and beautiful (every shot is filmed that way), and I wasn't bored - I was expecting (and wanting) an epic Western, and that's what I got.

[@chrisjohnstone2392]

Critics hate it....not a Hollywood DEI movie....so its gonna be great 👌👌👌👌

[@adp023]

Nah bruh, other than a couple good action set pieces, it was pretty bad. The tone between characters felt like a Roland Emmerich movie. It had a very 90's tone. Also, none of the characters felt authentic. 1883 TV mini-series was actually better.

[@cp-ul4bz]

Pre-ordered this on bluray.

[@Sirlagalot378]

If anyone can Costner can; Dances with Wolves was nothing short of a masterpiece, so much so Avatar essentially used the premise... very well. From what's been shown Horizon looks great and I can't wait to see what John Hillcoat does with Blood Meridian- here's to a Western renaissance folks! 📯🍻

[@djinnee1792]

Old Dads is almost a guy's guy movie. The three Dads were all afraid of their wives. What old guy movie features leads that are afraid of women? Even Bill's movie folded on the empowerment over stupid toxic masculinity, making it one of those movies against the Horizon type man. They didn't need to be aggressive or combative, but being able to express themselves to their wives or have a normal conversation with a woman who isn't a topless dancer would have better for the guy's guy image.

[@nickdial8528]

Excellent film. Acting: 10 Score: 10 Cinematography: 10 Costumes:10 Historical accuracy:10 This is the type of film Hollywood used to make. Costner spares no expense on quality, and it tells a gritty non sugar coated reality of how brutal and hard the frontier life truly was for everyone involve. I see plenty of people clearly with an agenda, especially, hit peace articles trying to tear this movie down because they don't like the fact it betrays native Americans in any sort of negative light, despite the fact of the film show's brutality on all sides and it simply doesn't water down the facts or the truth...the wild West frontier was unbelievably barbaric and full of struggle and constant death, and this movie gives a modern, fresh look at that reality without compromising on the facts because of political correctness, or any of this garbage we're so used to, today. I'm a big history buff, and I've researched a mass amount of history as it interests me greatly. This movie, is one of the most accurate betrayals I can think of that shows the barbarity that took place that often isn't depicted realistically in a lot of movies. The only one that comes to mind I can think of is the massacre in Last of the Mohicans, where a film did an excellent job showing just how brutal the frontier can be, but make no mistake of this film, it's truly a good representation of the hardships. The film doesn't try to wag its finger at the audience or preach to them or any of that other crap, coming out of Hollywood. It is a good old school saga. It's something that should be produced more these days instead of this constant preachy garbage that audiences are tired of with having things shoved down their throats. This was an excellent film and most people have actually watched the movie liked it. The movie held my family's interests and we were surprised when three hours was up. When you can watch a three hour movie and the ending comes before you realize it, that speaks volumes about the quality of the storytelling and have a hold your interests..I've sat through plenty of three hour movies and wondered how much longer it was going to be. The fact that the so called critics are coming out in force to try to tear the film down even before it was released should tell you something. As consumers, we should be thankful that there's still people like Costner out there willing to spend their own money to try to produce something of quality for our viewing pleasure, instead of this nastiness, I see from people that have an illogical hatred toward the man and therefore spew nonsense about his project.