J-10A VIGOROUS DRAGON is HERE! FIRST impressions & Is it GREAT or is it bad? - War Thunder

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[@christopherchartier3017]

The JF-17’s flight model is absolutely busted

[@hanrenfighterjet]

it is? I thought gaijinbooies was only nerfing the J10A to keep iot in the F15's BR?

[@a_random_viewer_7169]

It's ridiculous lol it out turns an F5-F20, has good missiles, and it can do post stall maneuvers and crazy moves most planes in this game can only do if you have separated engine controls like in the F14 or su27

[@error_unkn0wn]

This plane *could do in test drive* a fucking 360* out if nowhere and lose 1000 km/h wort of speed in a matter of 2 seconds. The airframe was busted as hell *saying it could because they already fixed the flight model

[@a_random_viewer_7169]

@@error_unkn0wn airframe isn't fixed for me lol, I can do 360s at mach 1.15 and still save it from the stall and power glide like a paper plane

[@omgcannon896]

The fact is that expected Pakistan air force, other counties just let it eat dust in the hanger. It's the jet that you may take off, but no guarantee how you will land.😂

[@thatoneguy1741]

Thought it was getting 20k HMD range, along with the 29 SMT and Su27 😢

[@actualsize123]

It did get one, it’s just labeled wrong.

[@brandonbao7097]

@@actualsize123 What do you mean? They made a mistake?

[@actualsize123]

@@brandonbao7097 it’s a typo. You can lock things up to 20km away it just says it maxes out at 10.

[@bowenc2367]

J10a has great nose authority been playing the shit out of it

[@_allien_9731]

Launch Pl-12 in less than 20km and + 1 mach.. impact chance would increase to 80-90 percent

[@frosty8183]

So they added irccm to the pl5e?

[@Not_Octopus]

Yes

[@itsericzhou]

gatewidth like r73

[@CruLisP]

​@@itsericzhou which is BS

[@itsericzhou]

@@CruLisP yeah it should have the seeker of the irl ty-90 which is similar to the aim9x. This would be be completely overpowered especially if the Russian, European, and American counterparts weren’t added

[@AbyssViber1028]

Down a Jf-17 and F-16C with the Persian Tomcat my first game of the update. Haven’t gotten to dogfight a j-10 yet😢

[@AvonSabre]

15 seconds ago and no views? he really fell off

[@zoega0850]

😅

[@lingchenzeng5745]

day 0 of asking him to pronounce "radar" correctly 😂

[@ScottishSquirrel_]

@@lingchenzeng5745 It's called an accent, he is Brazilian

[@lingchenzeng5745]

@@ScottishSquirrel_ Dude, i know, he is right half of the time and half of the time I have to wonder what exactly was he referring to lmao

[@TomTom-rs2zz]

You forgot about radar height.... Finally added

[@jayklink851]

I'm not thrilled about the radar altimeter. I hope people don't revert to the pre-fox 3 era. 80% of teams would fly low, go left, turn around, meet for suicide furball. Many did that style of gameplay get old. Plus, IRL, active radar homing missiles weren't effected by multi-pathing. I see a lot more people flying on the deck again; Not healthy for overall gameplay.

[@AZ-dj1ni]

​@@jayklink851yeah, is better this new meta, takeoff, fire all Fox3, RTB and repeat

[@jayklink851]

@@AZ-dj1ni There is only a couple bozos per team that do that, and they only hit new players, or people fixated on bombing bases.

[@TomTom-rs2zz]

@@jayklink851 im glad becouse i wont anymore in cloudy weather crash to mountain it should be in game long time ago.... i never liked licking ground gameplay

[@user-hp5ob8yv9y]

Why no lavi

[@mcdonnelldouglasfa-18c49]

Too bad the PL-8 wasn’t given IRCCM :(

[@ScottishSquirrel_]

Scary Temu Eurofighter

[@mich421]

But it has few countermeasures

[@bombcat5517]

​@@mich421 theyre single pops though

[@jg14gerhard_bar]

@@mich421 they're also Large CM so FAR more effective.

[@willsimpson3783]

Scary for the pilot 😂

[@ScottishSquirrel_]

@@willsimpson3783 Child Labor Jet goes hard

[@EGGYBRETH]

EGG

[@Palpatine_e_sua_geminha]

EGG

[@nik4091]

EGG

[@JonathanOfir-fs8oe]

J10( lavi from temu) but not the lavi Fu wt

[@Ghooost____733]

"The worst top teir in WT"

[@aliosha.47007]

i AM first hello matawg.

[@ScottishSquirrel_]

actually you are third

[@Zimmy_yegor]

Why no real eurofighter 😭😭😭

[@brendensmithmusic278]

Eurofighter has better flight model by a mile compared to everything currently released. When it is itll probably make germany the meta

[@user45g-4c5rf]

@@brendensmithmusic278 If the Rafale comes out at the same time and Gaijin respects reality, it will be France... Irl the Rafale is better in dogfight than the Typhoon.

[@Zimmy_yegor]

@@brendensmithmusic278 who knows if they will add realistic flight mode for eurofighter, they didn’t for quite a few jets including my favourite the su27sm, but hopefully they add realistic flight model for eurofighter

[@blackamber2012]

@@brendensmithmusic278I think typhoon is not that different, recently Pakistan J10C beat Qatar typhoon in both bvr and dogfight.

[@willsimpson3783]

​@@blackamber2012oh wow

[@maxdavidyermolaev4164]

now add the Lavi to israel

[@zeitgeistx5239]

But then they’d say it’s Temu Eurofighter or worse.

[@JonathanOfir-fs8oe]

​@@zeitgeistx5239but the j10 is basically a temu lavi and anyone when says the lavi is copy of the Rafael or eurofighter is an idiot

[@janusz4156]

Typhoon and Rafale is a better than J-10.

[@eugeniuszwt159]

do you see them in the game

[@_YouTube-User_]

That's why they will be added later

[@bombcat5517]

you reek of cope

[@user45g-4c5rf]

Widely... Even the Gripen is better but here is Gaijin doing shit again to give much too boosted flight performance.

[@andrean2247]

Yeah, but that both not better than j11BG /J16

[@willsimpson3783]

Even Defyn said the PL12 isnt anything apecial. At all. This plane is just a wish version of the eurofighter. Amazing how the rip off comes before the original. China just copies other nations but changes the bare minimum to call it their own. The JF-17 is just a weird hybrid of the f5 and f16.

[@MeritocraticPaty]

pure projection. it's almost a direct technology transfer. The US has bet $400 million on the Lavi program, and the Defense Department is set to purchase Israeli-made Lavi aircraft for its US fighter jets. Of course, Boeing and Lockheed-Martin have spent a lot of money to thwart the program, because US aerospace companies don't want foreign countries to undercut the Defense Department, even if they are allies. This lobbying reduced funding for Lavi, and the Israeli government later ended its support, which seriously damaged Israel's aerospace industry, especially the approximately 25% of Israeli aerospace engineers working on the Lavi program. Many of the unemployed engineers who were fired from the Lavi program have "consulted" with China to develop the J-10.

[@guto6690]

china is simply more based

[@阳古月]

then why dont you copy j20?🤥

[@Bamiyanbigasf]

Why try to design something new when you can copy designs that are actually proven to work and fit them with your own internals

[@user45g-4c5rf]

He's much too strong at low speeds... This thing must be nerfed and fast otherwise what will it look like on fighters like the Typhoon or the Rafale?? Will it be UFO ?? Because irl the J-10 is clearly worse than these 2. Fortunately the PL12 are not too strong because otherwise he would have become the best in all areas.

[@somerandomguy1475]

The j10A only has worse electronic their menuverbilty are very similar

[@blackamber2012]

Not really, I think recently Pakistan J10C beat Qatar typhoon in both bvr and dogfight..

[@willsimpson3783]

​@@blackamber2012 Case maybe of being the pilot and not the plane?

[@willsimpson3783]

Maybe its a case of "its the pilot not the plane" ​@blackamber2012

[@hulilupteri.]

why would it be "clearly worse"... ?

[@MrStrafeMan]

Soo many targets bc gaijin is stupid and cant make the 6v6 and 12v12 for normal matches... Its an option, but you didnt really get not even 1...