J. Krishnamurti - Saanen 1977 - Public Discussion 5 - Relationship and intelligence

[@VicSC]

I've seen maybe every video up to 1981 and I'm really impressed at how much was covered in this dialogue. Many connections were made. In the end, K makes an excellent summary.

[@nitinrodge]

Beautiful talk Ks voice does sound beautiful to ear 😍

[@DrSnBajaj]

Difference between Krishnamurti's talk and any other speaker...one can hear others without attention and with Krishnji one can't under stand a word if one is not attentive totally 😊

[@katiamoura3396]

Essa palestra foi tudo...muito esclarecedor, sem palavras...

[@zeph9751]

Every time listening to him requires one to go deep and see if one is gone far or just acts as a mediocre. If not, we may remain in delusion that perhpas one day, time will bring about the transformation in us.

[@KevIn-x1x9z]

Hey, i see you commenting on every video of him. I thought, maybe its nice to have someone to discuss the topics of life with regarding krishnamurti's views? Im 21 and i am on the path for a bit of time. Let me know

[@hyperbigmonkey]

Spesial❤

[@herewego009]

What is our relationship- 22:18 Are we related at all to anything - 25:11

[@robertopuccianti8498]

🌻🙏💥

[@Bhagavi108]

5:39 polski poeta Edward Stachura. Znał francuski bo jego rodzice byli polskimi emigrantami w Paryżu. Zdolny poeta, ale miał ambicie tak samo wielkie jak EGO. To ostatecznie go przerosło. To właśnie widać i słychać w tym materiale. Ostatecznie zraził do siebie całe otoczenie. Próbował "ukarać" wielbicieli jego talentu rzucając się pod pociąg, ale w efekcie stracił palce u rąk, na kilka miesięcy przed kolejnym samobójstwem. Ostatecznie przeświadczenie o własnej wielkości doprowadziło do samobójstwa we własnym mieszkaniu. Najpierw próbował nożem podciąć żyły, ale to mu nie wyszło. Zatem zdecydował się na powieszenie, co ostatecznie, po wielu wysiłkach było skuteczne. Wygrało EGO, poległa samoświadomość i cały ten mit o wielkości Stachury.

[@eeo.e]

To, co w tekście oznaczono jako 'unaudible' kryje całkiem sensowne i dosyć chyba dla Krishnamurtiego i słuchaczy - niewygodne pytanie. Bywa tak, kiedy bierze się udział z postawą odważną i niezależną - zadaje się pytania tam, gdzie powstaje wątpliwość bez względu na to, czy reszta wybiera wiarę bezkrytyczną.

[@cheri238]

❤

[@preethikrao]

🙏🙏

[@eeo.e]

~ 6:00 What is described as 'unadible' seems to be (for Krishnamurti and audience) unconvinient question; unapropriate for a believer/follower but reasonable for independent mind.

[@seekersfinders8801]

Love k

[@sanciadavidson8263]

How do you not register at a psychological level? Help me to understand.

[@Human-nm9lx]

Dear friend, Don't ask help from anyone not even the speaker, use the speaker as mirror to look inside yourself. I mean to say that you look the words where they are pointing don't hold on to his words as we do usually in daily life... Ask question from yourself and stay with the question do not try to find an answer if you try, then motive will dictate you. You may have to ask thoroughly multiple questions from yourself... If you don't get answer instantly leave it as it is. It may flower itself by the time. 😊

[@OhLook10bucks10]

Feel your feet touching the ground. Go into the pure feeling and see if there's a difference between the feeling and the one observing it. I think what he means by psychological is the sense of you who's feeling the feeling. The sense of you who's feeling the sensation is another sensation. IDK maybe this doesn't help but consider it anyway

[@OhLook10bucks10]

It really all depends on what you mean by psychological

[@violetafarcas2852]

The brain is mechanical. Time only exists on the outside, it has no place psychologically. Everything the brain registers is always old, never new. Like a loop between past experiences and future scenarios. The sense of self we all have is a psychological invention. We have the illusion that "I" and "myself" are 2 separate entities - there's a psychological split, fragmentation as K calls it. For example, I hear people saying "I hate myself". When they believe this and never question it, they go through all sorts of psychological distress, which in turn manifests on the outside in their relationships. How can I hate myself, when both of these entities are created by the mind? Asking the right questions, learning the art of questioning, seeing (or having insight into) this whole psychological structure (that is invented by the brain to make sense of the world) is necessary to break free of the illusion of the self, the mind constructs (illusions), and...the rest is up to you, as this is something that cannot be learned FROM someone else. I'm not doing justice to K with this summary, and I recommend to listen to his dialogues in the series "the transformation of man". That'll make it more easy to understand 🙂