J.S. Bach - BWV 245 Johannes-Passion - Chorus "Herr, unser Herrscher" (Synthesized)

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Well, this took a while. I started transcribing the score in April 2021, but after a fast start I could not progress into finding the right sounds to convey the (to me) incredibly ominous atmosphere.
The dissonant oboes, the cry of the choir, Bach really set up some show for the folks who came to church on Good Friday to listen to the history of the Passion.
You really long for some light at the end, perhaps a major chord to end it all, and I seriously thought about a Picardy third, but decided against: it ends in minor: it's a prelude to a tragic story.
0:00 Introduction
1:05 Choir (Herr, unser Herrscher)
1:51 Episode 1
2:14 Finale
3:14 Episode 2 (Zeig uns durch deine Passion)
3:50 Episode 3 (verherrlicht worden bist)
5:14 Introduction (da capo)
6:12 Choir (Herr, unser Herrscher)
6:58 Episode 1
7:20 Finale

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@dennislovinfosse6293 Жыл бұрын

I don't understand why there aren't more views of this incredible synthesized realization.

@OrzoMondo Жыл бұрын

Thank you! Perhaps half the views are mine - I like to listen to it when I'm driving. And I find plenty of defects :/

@JcFiscus42 Жыл бұрын

@@OrzoMondo you’ve got a new subscriber with me! I agree with this comment: an incredible realization.

@OrzoMondo Жыл бұрын

@@JcFiscus42 Thank you so much!

@JcFiscus42 Жыл бұрын

@@OrzoMondo it must be difficult to design a synthesized transcription, there’s just so many dynamics to consider for each note…

@Stichting_NoFap Жыл бұрын

Your comment wasn't posted that long after the upload and the channel doesn't have much subs yet, so it will grow with time. In any case the views and subs deserves a high count, I'm also one of them.

@ShrimpBarbarian 4 ай бұрын

Sublime. Bach's music is truly eternal.

@OrzoMondo 4 ай бұрын

Thank you!!

@dansaber4427 3 ай бұрын

@@OrzoMondodu aber Daniel teleman?

@OrzoMondo 3 ай бұрын

@@dansaber4427 Es gibt so viel schöne Musik da draußen, dass es schwierig ist, sich für etwas zu entscheiden :) Ich möchte viel mehr Händel und Vivaldi machen, aber auch Telemann!

@dennislovinfosse6293 Жыл бұрын

Mr. Orzo Mondo, I've listened to this (I think) about 30 times now and I've never tired of it. As I've commented elsewhere in your uploads, the thing I like most about your work is the control you have to bring our clarity of all the parts. It's very difficult to do this in a live performance (and one of the reasons to use small forces in those contexts, IMHO). But of particular interest in this movement is the bass line. Oddly enough it often gets buried and for having such a prominent part I find that really odd, yet, there it is. The insistence of the ostinato in your realization is, for me, a revelation. It's like fate: it just doesn't go away. The drumming away, the brief trip through the circle of fifths (or the "turning motive" transferred to the bass) , then the return of the relentless drumming on one note comes off so dramatically and stunningly in your realization. It's almost as if the whole piece is about the ostinato. Instruments alone are relatively clear as to their parts. Same with singers a cappella. But when the two forces are combined there's an inherent acoustic problem, especially in Bach, IMHO.. Bach's textures are so complex at times with so much layering and counterpoint that I wonder if Bach himself ever really heard all the notes he wrote because of acoustics of the churches, ability of his performers and the amount of rehearsal time, etc.. We'll never know. But we are lucky to have someone like you who can bring it all off with clarity. We all know the words, but we all may have never heard all the notes.

@OrzoMondo Жыл бұрын

> it's like fate: it just doesn't go away Can't agree more with you, there is something incredibly compelling, no, more, bone chilling, about the openings of St Matthews and St John. This is a story everyone knows, a story that is not going to end well, yet it has to happen, and it has to happen with all the amount of suffering that is prescribed. In both the openings Bach prepares the audience for what is to come, but while St Matthew's is somber yet compassionate, St John's is just cruel. Both intros are in a minor tonality, both are quite dramatic, but St Matthew's has that beautiful "O Lamm Gottes, unschuldig" chorale embedded smack in the middle, which sort of helps releasing the tension. St John's is just relentless, and at the end, when you want it so bad to end it with a Picardy third, please, please, end in major, give us some light... No. St Matthew's, after all the drama, ends in major :)

@scottashe984 Ай бұрын

If he didn't hear it all with his own ears he heard it in his head at least. He may have positioned his performers in a way in which he did hear them all. He was a true genius after all. I put nothing past him. His shadow is long.

@dennislovinfosse6293 Жыл бұрын

Enjoyed this very much. Thank you! The thing that attracts me to electronic realizations of acoustic music, especially the music of Bach which can get so complex --as in the current example--is that in acoustic performances details are easily lost and can actually almost defeat the very medium it was written for. Bach pushes the limits of music in all aspects at one time or another in his life's work. He pushes tonality to its limits, he pushes counterpoint to its limits, and so on...I was trained as an organist and even though one has four voices to deal with most of the time, the instrument can present them with clarity (which I suspect is ne of the reasons Bach loved the instrument--clarity because every note counts. There's no "filler notes"). But then one has the room the instrument is in which can turn the whole matter muddy. This is solved by electronic media. But then electronic media has to somehow account for the human heart. So that's where, IMHO, one has a challenge. As final observation, I might add that a lot that, however, is written into the notes. Bach said, "I play the notes, but it is God that writes the music."

@OrzoMondo Жыл бұрын

So true - not only you can make each note stand out by using well separate waveforms, you can also double up ideas or themes that you like, especially if they are in the background.

@dennislovinfosse6293 Жыл бұрын

@@OrzoMondo BTW, I especially like that you brought out the bass line. It's a heartbeat and gives the essential gravitas to the movement. And, oddly enough, that effect so often is not really heard in acoustic performance. Don't understand why. Anyway, thanks for that!

@seb4462 5 ай бұрын

Great arrangement of an eternal masterpiece! It's kind of comfortably haunting, like CyberBaroque.

@OrzoMondo 5 ай бұрын

CyberBaroque indeed!

@grahamcaldecott Жыл бұрын

This is superb, you've created pillars of sound and bass line that perfectly underpins, rock bass guitarists would love this. First time I heard this made think of Koyaniskatsi (time out of joint) A film maker looking for something depicting our troubled times would find it hard to find something better. Ominous indeed.

@OrzoMondo Жыл бұрын

Well, thank you! This piece has always been deeply unsettling for me. The more I worked on it the more I realised that a lot of the unease comes from the pedal bass. I think I might have gone a bit overboard with the predominant bass, but I'm glad you liked it.

@dennislovinfosse6293 Жыл бұрын

I've listened to this now many times and my appreciation has turned to a love for it--your realization of it, that is. I think you've accomplished some real "drive" to the piece, especially in the later aection(s). That's an accomplishment! I have never heard all the parts so clearly in a live performance as I can hear in yours. Sometimes I think Bach was writing just for God because it so often seems too much for humans to perform and grasp at once, especially when there are so many parts. There are indications (hints) here and there in research about Bach that this is likely his intention.

@OrzoMondo Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much sir! And I agree, using synthesizers you can really bring up melodic lines that are rarely heard in recordings, unless you know exactly what to listen for.

@andreasisenberg8700 Жыл бұрын

Your arrangement not already is truly "igniting" and sparkling with life, it also reminds me again that this piece is one of J. S. Bach's most spectacular compositions. Again, this is music I consider highly suited for dancing, in a disco of my kind. I am inclined to say: if you really love J.S. Bach, you love him in all forms and shapes - as long as it's well done and with good musical taste. Which is the case here. Ah, one thing I almost fergot: there is one piece of music I consider related on a deeper level and I suppose this might come as a surprise for many: "Bitches brew" by Miles Davis. There is the same huge constant fertile metamorphosis of life in the making, the same powerful pulsation. That's what I am hearing here: not death or sadness but the overwhelming power of life. And all this springs to my mind while I am listening to your version. I guess you fulfilled your task! 🙂

@OrzoMondo Жыл бұрын

Thank you @andreas, interesting you mention bitches brew. Miles is another master I consider of the highest order. When I bought that album I must have been about 14-15. Everyone was raving about it, and I just could not make myself like it. It took several years of listening to Miles' own musical journey, starting from when he was playing with Charlie Parker, through the Birth of the Cool and to Kind of Blue to finally understand where he was going with that. Miles is quite inaccessible at times, but once you start unraveling it the depth of his musical genius is awe striking. Funny thing about Bach is that he manages to do all that without ever being inaccessible.

@andreasisenberg8700 Жыл бұрын

@@OrzoMondo Nice to know you also have a diversified musical taste. I fergot to mention which specific piece on "Bitches brew" I was talking about: "Pharao's dance". That's the one.

@DSZI.ShyHunterBB Жыл бұрын

This really sounds incredible, good luck on those projects of yours. Your commitment always helps to inspire me to keep working on some projects of my own. Hope you are well, and as always, Have a nice day!

@OrzoMondo Жыл бұрын

Thank you sir! Much appreciated! Do keep working, there's a special satisfaction in finishing projects, and this from someone who regularly abandons things he starts :)

@PsykoFlo1 Жыл бұрын

Beautiful work, thank you ! This is the synthesized gem I was looking for, that allows our minds to better grasp the details of Bach's genius. This is also the best graphic rendition of music I have seen so far. Merci !

@OrzoMondo Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for listening!

@scottashe984 2 ай бұрын

Bach on synth has been doing wonders for my guitar playing. I've always been a fan on classical with traditional instrumentation but the voicings of synth transcriptions translates to my guitar wired brain in a crystallized way. Thank you again. Music is my life and soul. This means a lot to me.

@OrzoMondo 2 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for your beautiful comment. I would say that even though I am not a musician and my major professional interests are elsewhere, music is my life and soul too.

@scottashe984 Ай бұрын

@@OrzoMondoYour personal and professional life move to a rhythm regardless of your ability to perform music. That you have such an appreciation for the power of music makes us brothers in this life. Thanks again. Keep up the stellar work on this hobby.