J.S. Bach - BWV 60 "O Ewigkeit, du Donnerwort" (1723)

[@JJJRRRJJJ]

6:37 I usually sleep through the Recitativo sections, but this one is so insanely cute that it’s one of my favorite moments of any Bach cantata. The way it resolves itself is so simple and immaculate.

[@emilianoturazzi]

the recitativo sections ar often the mosti interesting ones... that's not true in all ages, but often they are full of invention. Try to listen to Purcell's recitativi in Dido and Aeneas, or to Monteverdi's operas (where the recitativo is often mixed with aria and/or arioso)

[@karlakor]

How could I have forgotten this cantata? Upon hearing the opening chorus, I suddenly realized I knew this piece and had always loved it. Somehow it had gotten lost in my memory until I heard it again here. I am delighted to have found it again.

[@user-gr5hi4um2u]

Didn't expect Bach in this channel but still very good

[@danal81]

Михаил how is what you expected relevant for this music at all?

[@user-gr5hi4um2u]

@@danal81 bro. Chill. I love Bach. If he decides to continue uploading Bach forever, that's perfectly fine. I just said I didn't expected it. Sheesh.

[@danal81]

Михаил “but still”

[@user-gr5hi4um2u]

@@danal81 don't take it out of context please

[@danal81]

Михаил that’s precisely the context.

[@aramkhachaturian8043]

Now these are the types of beats I chill to

[@kimas8084]

haahah 1750s beats

[@smuecke]

My favorite recording of one of my favorite cantatas - amazing, thank you so much! BTW to add some background: The Alto voice is named _Furcht_ (fear) and the Tenor _Hoffnung_ (hope), so this aria is basically an inner dialogue.

[@neilwalsh3977]

To me, these pieces are basically personal extensions of Bach's own prayer

[@neilwalsh3977]

In other words, I think he prayed in sound

[@dorotheewagner3399]

Great 👍 this does so good in these bad times 💪Thank you very much with greetings from Berlin ☮

[@valtergilenardi2639]

Bach Forever ! Bach is Divine and is Number One. I am a Bach toxic. Since 1992. My age is 55 years 😊❤

[@nicperlari]

Bach in this Channel wow!

[@MadMusicologist]

Thank you for this one. This cantata might well be seen as outstanding - not only for the chorale at the end. This kind of using two different texts simultaneously is a concept much more familiar with 20th century music. Btw. the opening made me look again "am I really listening to Bach here?", and knowing you are going to listen to a work about death, would you seriously expect such a serene mood? Almost sounds like Mozart in the opening measures. Outstanding.

[@herrickinman9303]

You will find many examples of dual texts in the music of Bach and his contemporaries. It was a feature of the opera in Bach's time. A sophisticated listener in Bach's time would have recognized his frequent uses of operatic devices in his church music. This cantata is in the form of a dialogue between Fear (alto) and Hope (tenor). You seemed to have missed that. The notion that this is a cantata about death is naive and simplistic. The theme of the cantata is not death. The theme is the hope of salvation.

[@EmanuelGaldr]

The beginning of Sibelius' 2nd Symphony came to my mind during the opening bars.

[@jackdomanski6758]

I heard that, too.

[@timotheuspeter734]

Same here!

[@neilwalsh3977]

Fascinating comparison - Sibelius does elemental well also

[@harryk6807]

Hey that’s the chorale from Berg’s violin concerto!

[@kentandmerran1032]

Yes Yes it is - I've waiting for over 30 years to find this chorale after studying the Berg in 1987 - and here it is!!! Complete with Berg like chord progressions and cadences. I never truly believed Berg left it alone. I always thought that he would have substantially altered it. But no it is 'fairly' true to what is heard in his violin concerto. Bucket list stuff - but then I am in COVID lockdown so it doesn't take much to get me excited at the moment!!!

[@RyanPower]

Foreshadowed the new video!

[@xejhiuj]

And it's the one from the end of "Ich wandte mich und sah an alles Unrecht.." by Zimmermann.

[@rydersilas6543]

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[@neilwalsh3977]

I love the Berg Concerto

[@domenicodogani3350]

Questa è la vera eternità in musica. Sublime.

[@sing-yat]

Wow the crunchy chromaticism in the Recitativo is so amazing

[@markiangooley]

The Bach expert Whittaker wrote that he once almost ignored recits in Bach’s cantatas but, because of things like chromaticism that Bach included to make them more interesting, grew to treasure them.

[@herrickinman9303]

The passage you refer on the word _martert_ ("tortures") uses augmented chords, not crunchy chromaticism.

[@scriabinismydog2439]

Unexpected, but lovely

[@Tamadehenzhan]

danke

[@MustachioMan17]

That's a ballsy opening for a choral!

[@neilwalsh3977]

That's another of Bach's great strengths - that Germanic oomph!

[@Baton793]

Bach cantatas

[@Nooticus]

^^^^^^ All day!!!

[@ghitanadhamou5369]

German text O Ewigkeit, du Donnerwort, O Schwert, das durch die Seele bohrt, O Anfang sonder End O Ewigkeit, Zeit ohne Zeit, Ich weiß vor großer Traurigkeit Nicht, wo ich mich hinwende. Mein ganz erschrocknes Herze bebt Daß mir die Zung am Gaumen klebt.

[@lucpraslan]

The oboe d'amore: it worked on me! 💓💞💕

[@filmscorefreak]

That's a wild and beautiful chorale. I went back to 15:32 several times.

[@ghitanadhamou5369]

German text English translation O Ewigkeit, du Donnerwort, O eternity, you word of thunder, O Schwert, das durch die Seele bohrt, o sword, that bores through the soul, O Anfang sonder Ende! o beginning without end! O Ewigkeit, Zeit ohne Zeit, O eternity, timeless time, Ich weiß vor großer Traurigkeit I know not, before such great sorrow, Nicht, wo ich mich hinwende. where to turn. Mein ganz erschrocknes Herze bebt

[@Nooticus]

Crazy chorale!!

[@RicardoMora-n1u]

Gracias por publicar la hermosa música de nuestro maestro Bach, solo a DIOS la gloria, escuchando sus cantatas intimo más fácilmente con mi SEÑOR JESUCRISTO, DIOS LOS BENDIGA. Amén.❤❤❤

[@iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiivy]

If I'm not mistaken (correct me if I am), there are two halves to this cantata. Do you have any plans of uploading the other one?

[@Cmaj7]

I think you're thinking of his BWV 20, of the same name. That one has 2 parts

[@iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiivy]

@@Cmaj7 Oh yeah, I didn't pay attention to the "BWV 60." I was talking about BWV 20.

[@markiangooley]

Cmaj7 yes. Saw and heard the opening bars and realized, “oh it’s not BWV 20,” which I know better. But thanks for this.

[@OlegSutyrin]

What are the stacked numbers above bass stave?

[@the_number_e]

Олег Omican Сутырин Figured bass, denotes the harmony to play above the note

[@Mezzotenor]

I.e., if there's a 4 and a 2, it's likely a dominant-7th chord in the third inversion; if 6 and 3, it's a triad in first inversion; or if there's an incremental change between one or two pairs of numbers, it can be the resolution of a suspension. Plus signs, flats, and sharps mean accidentals. If there are no figures, the either the chord is in root position or the bass note is a passing tone. But I'm just saying the basic things; it's more complicated than I can explain here.

[@gspaulsson]

@@Mezzotenor without getting into theory, it indicates the intervals to be played above the bass. E.g. if the bass note is G, 5 3 would indicate the chord G-B-D, G major in root position, and 6 4 2 would indicate the chord G-A-C-E, an A-minor 7th in 3rd inversion. But there are shorthand notations. Since root position chords are the most common, the figures would usually be left out, so G with no numbers would mean G-B-D, or if it was a dominant 7th in root position, it would just be notated 7, the remaining notes 3 and 5 being implied. G could also represent the first inversion of an Eb 7th, G-Eb-Bb-Db, fully notated as 6 5 3, but usually just 6 5, or the second inversion of C7, G-C-E-Bb, fully 6 4 3 but usually just 4 3, and the third inversion just 4 2. G could also be the first inversion of an E minor chord, intervals 6 3, but usually just 6, or it could be the second inversion of a C major chord, G-C-E, notated 6 4, which would not be abbreviated since it has voice-leading implications. The point of figured bass, though, is just to tell the performer what notes to play to fill in the harmony, without theoretical complications. Chords outside the normal scheme of triads, 7ths, 9ths etc, would have chromatically altered notes, indicated by accidentals: e.g. the diminished 7th on G would be notated 5b 3b

[@MichelSchallenberg]

The recording is a semi tone lower than written, isn't it?

[@RedstoneManiac13]

Yep! Baroque Tuning.

[@lesliedavis6081]

Yeah and it KILLS trying to do an orchestration assignment for it 🤦🏾‍♀️

[@sshawnuff]

Just a headsup for a typo: It should be "genug", not "genung" in the lyrics

[@Cmaj7]

sshawnuff I don’t think it’s a typo. Genung is a dated form of genug. They also are singing genung

[@sshawnuff]

@@Cmaj7 Yes, I beg your pardon, you are right: woerterbuchnetz.de/cgi-bin/WBNetz/wbgui_py?sigle=DWB&lemma=genung As I native speaker of german, I didn't know this. Thank you!

[@FABIOA.V.P]

300 Years Old Today

[@dako2117]

14:43

[@SPscorevideos]

Cmaj7 uploading Bach → :) Cmaj using Neue Bach-Ausgabe engraving with modern clefs → :(

[@korhonenmikko]

The Neue Bach-Ausgabe is like the platonic ideal of beautifully engraved music in my opinion.

[@SPscorevideos]

@@korhonenmikko Well, I'm not denying that this is very fine engraving... I'm just really fond of the old clef of the Bach-Gesellschaft Ausgabe. ;)

[@XinhaoZheng]

@@korhonenmikko No!! Durand engraving is the best!

[@XinhaoZheng]

I wish I could have my works engraved by hand

[@michael18276]

Sounds somewhat like "Mamma mia"

[@Liskafm352]

Credits to performers would be great 😕

[@daniellennon9993]

They are in the description...

[@PointyTailofSatan]

I doubt this was really written by Bach. The harmony and development of the opening aria sounds like something written by a 2nd year choral music student. And if the date is right, Bach would have been almost 40 when he composed this. Maybe Krebs wrote it.

[@christianwouters6764]

That is well possible. I don't know of any other work by JS Bach with those repeated 16th notes. And there is a certain clumsiness in the part writing one would not expect.

[@remifasolla5324]

@@christianwouters6764 I completely agree with you on the repeated 16th notes.

[@lesliedavis6081]

It got Bach’s counterpoint all over it, especially in the final vocal Es Is Genung.

[@PointyTailofSatan]

@@lesliedavis6081 Actually even that I find strangely simplistic. The bass continuo just duplicates the bass singing. And there is a ton of simple parallel motion in the other voices. If Bach did write this, he probably sketched it, and had a student complete it.

[@herrickinman9303]

@@PointyTailofSatan You're revealing your ignorance of Baroque continuo practice.

[@lingnguyen2623]

Nice instrumental but the language is a bit too harsh at times.

[@herrickinman9303]

You seem to think Bach composed the text as well as the music? The text comes from the following sources: Johann Rist (Mvt. 1); Franz Joachim Burmeister (Mvt. 5); Anon (Mvts. 2-4); Genesis 49: 18 (Mvt. 1); Revelation 14: 13 (Mvt. 4) Bach composed cantatas for the Leipzig liturgy, not for the concert hall. The text in the Leipzig church cantatas consisted of Bible passages, of passages from chorales that were well-known in the Leipzig churches, and of a type of church poetry that was popular in the Lutheran liturgy in Bach's time.

[@sabiner9315]

Was eins sdunnpfiffs ich darf das analaysiwr und checke nicht Was Bach von mir will

[@berndmensing8707]

Von Ihnen will er garnix. Der kann gut ohne Ihren "Dunnpfiff"

[@kegelchen32]

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