Runescape Doesn't Need Nostalgia

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Today, we talk about the role that "Nostalgia" has played throughout Old School Runescape's existence - and discuss reasons behind this 20-year old MMO's true success.
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[@J1mmy]

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[@TheTundraTerror]

You can really taste the monkey slave labour!

[@jamesclear3657]

I want video of Runscape vs Minecraft because nostalgia and new idears are similar brackets with RuneScape for someone who would spend hours on both they both are a game that safes lives every day.

[@roxaskinghearts]

Final fantasy xiv has more quality content then grind the next 9 years away

[@TheKingQazbatt]

great add btw

[@n0steeze]

Ratatouille is a dish, Remy is a rat.

[@SoupRS]

The greatest community no question

[@Kermatrix]

[@jessejames7116]

Bro, it's so true. We have about 20 years of community content guiding us in this direction. I think back to people like tehnoobshow, skychi, elvemage, and even runeshark. And now we have evolved with people like you, settled, mammal, jimmy, and so many others. As far as content creation community goes, old school runescape is the best in all of gaming, MAYBE second to only minecraft if im being generous.

[@muffin8786]

Yeah besides all of the homophobia it wouldn’t be terrible

[@nadadisson]

When is Zezima playing in the games

[@rytisramanauskas9206]

@@muffin8786 Homophile itself is terrible and satanic, please leave.

[@aero_spaced6977]

Nostalgia might be the reason why most people start to play, but it for sure is not the reason we stick around.

[@CLmXCriminal]

This

[@JohnFromAccounting]

Nostalgia didn't matter in 2006. People played because it was a good game. It's still the only MMO that truly works on mobile.

[@leflyxdvd]

thats why im really very on and off on osrs, i dont care for rs3 but from time to time i care to play some osrs for nostalgia sake really

[@0TheFinal]

​@@JohnFromAccountingstart playing again maybe from the start of mobile

[@jjw6961]

This is spot on. Nostalgia is 100% a factor in luring a non-insignificant number of players in, but the gameplay is what gets you hooked.

[@3-dogs]

i cant lie, the only reason i came back to runescape was for a hit of nostalgia, but thats not why i stayed. i ended up falling in love with this games ability to put me in a flow state and just let me exist peacefully, the fact that every breakthrough feels so potent but also reveals more challenges behind it. And most importantly, the game always provides ways of playing which matches the level of energy i can afford to give it. if im too tired to go bossing, i can just chop trees and chat people, if im feeling froggy i can go solo a boss or get wrecked in PvP. the game is always willing to meet me where i am, and thats a mechanic which is VERY specific to runescape.

[@Spearra]

That quip on a flow state perfectly explains how I got hooked again! 😂 I start with one task and then it leads to another one, then another one!

[@hbommer7794]

Same here ,Facts reminds me of being 12 years old . and getting disconnected from the internet when the house phone was ringing lol

[@BillSchrader]

So basically nostalgia?

[@SparcMac]

RuneScape is forever!

[@marcischlanger6848]

If YOU say it, it's true

[@mookematics323]

Love ya timmy boy

[@HobbesPC]

Very well said.

[@circa2388]

bum

[@Grriabear]

?????

[@AlienFoodage]

Oh boy, I'm feeling warm inside. What a video, what a community, what a game.

[@vsauce6997]

I was sooo happy when I saw your series mentioned in the video! Keep up the great work man, cheers!

[@Sam-mk6sw]

well deserved m8

[@ad990ooo2]

Make sure to check this demons series out

[@val_923]

hugely deserved ❤

[@Muhzzy]

You’re awesome dude! I love your unguided series.

[@bernardthequagsire2373]

hearing " you never quit you only take breaks" after just coming back after 2 years and continuing my ironman grind hit hard

[@TrashPanda1]

same brother, I've burnt myself out more consistently on ironman but its also the most fun I've had with the game

[@wacksparrow88]

Have fun king

[@Eric-xf4cj]

I swore I was done after my account got hacked and all my expensive gear was sold (~1.5billion gp worth). Took me like 5 months but I just resubscribed and am excited for the rebuild. A whole bunch of new content to explore as well!

[@griffin5215]

I played leagues first time playing osrs since 2014, I haven’t played since but I’ll probably play the next leagues I liked it a lot had the feel of playing osrs with a fraction of the grinding

[@TastyLifeRS]

That outro was COLD Jimmyboy

[@BLANK-oq6qe]

And 👌

[@DumassesDutch]

Bro facts, that was a tough one😂😮‍💨

[@BirnieMac1]

I love how much of that montage is Jim calling out his mates, especially settled Its beautiful especially following straight into the section about your love of the community and their creativity Like By Release is such a unique series especially when factoring in the banger tracks you’ve written for some of them And so many others are doing similarly creative things too

[@Gooorg]

Ah yes, another video to send my friends who don’t play RS.

[@iamsuchaloser69]

literally posted it in a discord of people who make fun of me for playing osrs in 2024 lmao

[@eon6274]

it's me, a friend who doesn't play RS here to watch more long videos about things I don't understand

[@GooTheMighty]

Word up

[@NucklesVault]

They still won't play 😂

[@dallastautu5369]

That would be a cool j1mmy video. How to get your friends to play who have never tried the game before (or why we cannot get them to play)

[@Skillspecs]

9:50 Hey I know that guy!

[@andycat4174]

youre the fkn goat skilly hope u keep up the upload streak u have been on ❤

[@Sir0fficerNasty]

Oh yeah, that's torvesta!

[@fakhriasyraf1]

also at 9:36 mr specs

[@michaelhill693]

Aren’t you busy getting PK’d by Torvesta to be commenting ;) Love your content man!

[@SolarixOnYT]

73rd like 😂

[@dellenaf]

Killing cows in lumby is the healing childhood nostalgia I needed to come back. Learning cox and staying up til 4-5am with the boys in disc is going to be the nostalgic feeling that brings me back to the best time of my life, with the lifelong friends I made here, in 10 years time. It is definitely, definitely the community.

[@Vesskel]

"1 HP LOCKED, JAGEX YOU IN ON THIS?!?" *pan the camera to the Jagex logo shaking in a corner*

[@fullparagon7468]

"Ask WoW players, they're right here." So damn true. And honestly, yeah, I think OSRS has the potential to outlive WoW for one simple reason: I can play this medieval clicking sim on my phone. That's just huge.

[@colinfederici4328]

Not only are you able to play parts of it, you can literally do everything on mobile that can be done on a PC. There are 500 invo solo TOA runs done, blorva and so many other insane things. AND they are pushing out great improvements to the UI that make the content more and more intuitive.

[@gorilla30100]

He forgot about the other 7 million subbed to WoW at the moment but I'm glad he was able to show half the RS fanbase in a single clip

[@itsOZone]

​@@gorilla30100and osrs has over 1 million active subs.

[@AngRyGohan]

While that may be the simplest reason, there is one other although more complicated one: As Jimmy puts it, OSRS's potential to varied content with snowflakes is something no other MMO could hope to replicate. If i was watching WoW, ffxiv, gw2 or whatever else videos, you bet im only going to watch a single person, at most 2 ( probably for lore ) because there is not a lot of uniqueness you can do with those games.

[@NomadicalNomad]

@@gorilla30100 Take away the bots and you've got 12 people on WoW still

[@AntVenom]

Man, I remember saying something in 2008 to Regicidal that I’ve never forgotten. That, at that time, we were in the golden age of Runescape content creation. That it wasn’t gonna get any better. And for well over a decade, I thought about how true that statement was. That 2008 was the golden age. That it did all go downhill from there. I’m so happy that statement is no longer true. Even though I don’t sink as much time into the game as I used to, the amount of content and excitement I’ve seen and felt with this game over just the past few years has really made me feel that we’re in a golden age right now. And I hope that golden age doesn’t end any time soon.

[@jessejames7116]

It's cool seeing your perspective on this, i know you've been around for a long time and you have a unique angle, being a creator. I really think that now is the true golden age, and i don't see it slowing down or stopping any time soon. Here's to another 10+ years of awesome runescape content :)

[@arimabz]

yeah these past few years definitely feels like the golden age of osrs content. so many unique and exciting ideas for series, videos, etc. and viewership is actually crazy

[@CaptnBeeBop]

08? More like 05-06. Pre GE was the golden age

[@AntVenom]

@@CaptnBeeBop i meant for content creation. Not the game itself. We all know it began to go downhill after the wilderness ditch was added :p

[@mugoloo]

I think people forget that RS content made up a good chunk of original era YT too. It's foundational.

[@Sabagastache]

As a former WOW player, can confirm. Nice to have a game that doesn't reset your gear every few months.

[@vimalkarthik3461]

I've never played WoW at all, does that happen??

[@Muistone]

@@vimalkarthik3461its a basic system in most common mmorpg games i guess. Everytime a new content patch hits, your gear gets replaced by better items. And everytime a new expansion is out, the old content comes irrelevant and basically nobody does it anymore. Imagine that world of warcraft has like 10 expansions now and basically only the newest one is played..

[@I_hunt_lolis]

Nostalgia is the only reason why I started leveling RS from 0 again and is the only reason why I still log in sometimes. I barely touch new any content If RS came out today looking as it is and I would have not played it as a kid there's no chance I would even try it.

[@BillSchrader]

This guy gets it.

[@Some_Awe]

YOUR SMILE "they're right here" is so so good. hahahahaha

[@YetiGaming]

To be fair, Asmon doesn't know what he's talking about in literally any given circumstance

[@tyguy3876]

Asmon is a goldfish

[@YetiGaming]

@@tyguy3876 that's offensive to goldfish lmao

[@TheFTPchannel]

Factual hes an idiot spewing grade school bs

[@enneric3843]

if you disagree with him in his twitch chat, he will just perm ban you cause only his opinion is valid according to him. Were living in his world I guess

[@YoyMcFroy]

He just loves to comment on games he has no experience with. It was funny the 1 time he tried osrs he ignored his entire chat and did leagues.

[@NoobsofFredo]

That ending was beautiful, on just so many levels. Your closing line hit so incredibly hard. "Want to know what WoW players think about all this? Well, why don't you ask them? They're right here."

[@TheGuyACE]

8:13 - 9:48

[@somnixu]

I'm 14. I play old school runescape. I wasnt even alive in 2007. Its just a good game.

[@HayesHandywork]

Holy shit I’m old now.

[@aaronsound]

try ff14 man good game

[@joshuaearl175]

What a time to be alive it was

[@JohnnyPartainJr]

Bro hell yeah keep playing it's a great game but I do have to tell you when it was in its prime it was a different animal. You couldn't go anywhere on the map without finding someone who would stop and chat with you. Not much bots, the map was full of people just having fun instead of grinding all day b

[@barraged999]

Holy shit 14 year olds were born in 2010

[@erenlapucet398]

An easy way to dispel the myth that osrs players play for nostalgia is to ask them what is some of the best content in the game, whether quests, pvm content, minigames etc. The answers people will give you will be heavily dominated by OSRS unique content. The game in 2007 was a great base to build an mmo off of, but it was ultimately the OSRS team that made it the success it is today, not nostalgia.

[@mrmcjeff385]

nahh surely most people will say the original dagannoth kings/kalphite queen endgame ;) crazy that even god wars wasn't in osrs when it first came out

[@tater3234]

players like the nostalgic feel and look, but don't neccessarily want only content that existed in the past, the want the game they fell in love with to keep that feeling. for instance, kourend is bad and feels weird and transplanted. Varlamore is amazing and feels like it belongs.

[@blazen123]

​@@tater3234i disagree about kourend but it certainly is far too large for little value or reason

[@itsOZone]

​@@blazen123it's way better now but yeah still some areas that need tweaked.

[@TheEstafista]

Those who say that 2007 osrs rocked didin't played then servers opened. It sucked! Here's just a FEW reason why it did: 1. Pathfinding was horrendous! If you clicked on a mini man to run somewhere your character would run back and fourth few times untill he actually started moving towards your cursor. 2. Run energy toggle was in settings. 3. Energy pots were something no one used and stamina potions didin't exist. 4. End game weapon was a whip. That was best in slot weapon for end game. 5. Training any skill was extremly slow. 6. G E didin't existed. So getting quest items was a pain. 7. Game didin't have enough content so most popular training spots were always full (experiments, stone crabs etc). 8. Herbs were called "Grimy herb" so you never knew what you are bringing back to the bank if you didin't had way to clean them. 9. Auto chat didint existed as ingame feature so you needed to download auto-talker (added risk as getting scamed. 10. Plugins didin't existed. 11. Runelite didin't existed. 12. Barrows armor was BIS in slot so after getting barrows armor you had nothink to work towards to. 13. Getting any recourses was a pain because traiding sucked and spots for expensive recourses were always filled. 14. There was ALOT more scams and lures because traiding doesn't had a warning and luring was possible in way more locations. 15. No new content was on the way so nothink to look foward to. I could go on and on. But for me a simple fact abaut path-finding, never having run energy, game felt extremly SLOW. And not in a good way. So yeah. Those who say that they liked 2007 better then what it is now clearly didin't played it.

[@thatsjohnnyt6480]

From the amazing ad down to the witty takes. bro I have been a have for a while now, great video. Thanks for being an OSRS content creator dude.

[@Corphish_]

This video was pure gold. I love all the recent uploads so thank you

[@MAGunboxing]

As a WoW player who started a new OSRS ironman last month, why you gotta call me out like that?

[@AsheOfAx]

Hell yeah, brother! Welcome!

[@securityfolk]

Welcome, brother.

[@bararobberbaron859]

Welcome and good luck! Don't forget to lock in your choice when you reach 1000 total level ^^

[@Kaizoku-o_PirateKing]

One of us, one of us!

[@fekajase]

i bet you play because of noStaLgiA

[@val_923]

9:07 unguided mention!!! lets go!!!

[@OmniNKay]

I had the same reaction, and Unguided's appeal is a great support for Jimmy's argument. The series isn't nostalgic; rather it allows me to experience RS's story in ways I want to, but either can't anymore or choose not to in order to balance other goals. Same with ByRelease, how it adds dimensions to the story by engaging with it so entertainingly.

[@JackdawWatcher]

Yes, let’s go!!!

[@homiga1]

​@@OmniNKayI could never get into reading dialogues in-game but that's a me thing, so having unguided give me a full rundown of what's happening and why has massively expanded my runescape knowledge without having played in the last year

[@Lyfe]

Fantastic video, totally agree that I can't wait to see where this game will be in the many years to come. That montage was awesome.

[@AureliusX]

You make really great videos Jimmy. seriously. the pacing, comedy, aesthetics, even the ads are entertaining. Looking forward to seeing your channel continue pumping out great content!

[@GregBroDudeMan]

It’s funny that anyone could think nostalgia is powerful enough to make me put thousands of hours into this game while getting bored of every other game after 10 hours. It’s just a great game with a great community and there’s nothing else like it. Great video Jimmy!

[@thebigbucktheory5488]

I think it is definitely what brings people back not what keeps them

[@cvilleftw]

Greg what’s ur osrs name?

[@PBDNR]

nostalgia makes me play fate 2 for a few hours when I'm drunk. RuneScape is definitely something else

[@grimdeathkid]

Yeh nostalgia is why I boot up wow every 3 years, level a guy to 30 like I did when I was 12 and then quit for 3 more years. Runecape I actually play though.

[@CoryRayGordonMusic]

It has a great community, but the blatant botting just disencentivises "the grind".

[@PureSpam]

Banger, that closing note too. 🤝

[@circa2388]

u bum

[@joppie1288]

Its been a while since I chuckled at a youtube video like I did at the rant that you had outlaying all the crazyness, thank you for that!

[@candidatemoves8617]

Come for the nostalgia feel, stay for the content.

[@LifeAfterRS]

accurate

[@Deanout]

"Just ask World of Warcraft players" was hilarious. This was sick, completely agree. The reason I keep coming back to the game is because I know it's going to respect me with the updates. The smallest QoL updates will have me praising the developers (Rune Pouch presets!)

[@eon6274]

Honestly one of the things that kept me going back to wow was the process of leveling in an old zone and coasting along slowly. Building a connection with your character and getting stronger. But then I don't care about it after leveling. The leveling itself and exploration on a new slate is what grips me. I was REALLY disappointed when I recently came back to try dragonflight and found out because of the way they've structured the game and the new class, you're unable to make a low level evoker and slowly go through the old zones. I wanted to level in a classic way out in the world, but you can't do that. Starts at level 60 so you can only go forward to the new zones. Dangit Blizz. I wanted to take my little dragon out to felwood or thousand needles. I wanted to have no mounts, only my wings to fly me. I wanted to be weak and grow up in the wilderness without dungeon finder speedruns. Wish they didn't treat the vanilla zones like an afterthought to be forgotten.

[@SpurdoMaltese]

Fucking lol Wow devs Giving a shit anymore Lol

[@oanab8205]

Im one of those WoW players that comes back to rs every year. Started on osrs about 5 years ago, went to rs3 for the graphics.. This year i went to osrs and started an ironman. Im mostly mewb on osrs, but wiki saves me, 3 weeks in, still loving it😁

[@TheArcticNetwork]

@@oanab8205 Hell yeah man im a fairly new ironman too im about to start going into midgame ironman territory with some combat grinds and song of the elvers almost completed :D

[@usa_bruce4295]

Bro that burn left me screaming. Oh damn!

[@PapaCreenis]

Banger vid and didn't skip the ad because Jimmy cosplayed as cook's guild chef.

[@PapaCreenis]

Also Jak and Daxter HD collection is pretty based

[@seldomseenkid7381]

Bro took cooks assistant and made an ad out of it, genius

[@blothehunder]

same

[@CGJournalist]

What a great video. Your delivery is so comical but understated. You're not loud or over the top and it feels like you're a true fan yourself.

[@andyhollatz5901]

your basically my game informer magazine i used to get as a kid ty j1mmy

[@Fenrirs_Rose]

its really funny hearing ppl say that nostalgia is the only reason this game is successful when ive sunk hundreds of hours into it in the past few months after starting to play and i never once even heard about it as a kid, goated game fr

[@Ihileath]

Yeah, I only started playing late last year, and it’s absolutely not because I played a tiny amount as a teenager or anything - only places I remembered were rimmington and the GE, and even then only barely since I played a few years after 2007. I’m not nostalgic, I’m just playing because it’s fuckin fun and the goals to set yourself are great. Also my partner & friends play and it’s fun talking about progress with em, wouldn’t have started without that.

[@RebornKingz]

As someone who has played this game in the past and present day and still hasn't maxed yet... the reason I only come back to it is because it's a game I feel like I can easily come back to and pick up right where I left off and not feel like I've been left behind. Something most WoW players like Asmongold would never understand. Osrs also to me is multiple games rolled into one which is another huge factor into why I think people still play it. It's a game where the journey is literally whatever you decide it to be. I haven't played seriously in 3 years almost and the game still feels the exact same since I left it.

[@lm-Wilhelm]

It's not the ONLY reason, but players like you are the minority. That's not me being a bigoted ego it's just the truth. 80%+ of us were here before 2010. Also, welcome.

[@KeCzajkowski]

as someone who never played OSRS as a kid and just started playing last year as an adult OSRS is legit just a well designed MMO

[@sarcobarco9562]

that sequence beginning from 8:00 just puts a big dumb smile on my face man. what a history, what a community. I love it.

[@SkyGrizzzley]

It's like RS2 took a pause and continued with OSRS. The weekly updates my friends and I look forward to every week truly has made this game amazing alongside the wonderful one of a kind community.

[@SuperRookie117]

9:24 That Soup cameo came out of nowhere XD

[@aidankidwiler3083]

OSRS requires exactly as much attention as you want to give it. Whether you want to click once every 90 seconds while you mindlessly scroll through youtube shorts or dry scoop some preworkout, blast hardstyle and game your heart out OSRS has got you.

[@jasperdigennaro4512]

I am 20 years old, I did not play RuneScape before osrs (I was literally three) but the game stands on its own, I put in 4000 hours on my uim because it’s fun, engaging and rewarding. People play for a week because of nostalgia, they play for years because the game is special

[@2398ud]

Amazing video J1mmy! loved the montage bit especially :D

[@cancerino666]

Never played RS when I was little. Started playing OSRC as my first Jagex game a year ago and have been loving it.

[@XSnakeguyX]

Same, started playing march of last year, got a 2k total main now and just made a gim with some friends, no nostalgia in it for me the game is just good

[@christopherpeart731]

Yep, never touched it until December last year so nostalgia doesn't really work for me and I'm hopelessly addicted

[@TexasGreed]

Its cool to know the game still attracts new players. Ive been playing this game on and off since 2005 and still love it. Although i still miss the 2005-2007 era the most. Pre GE runescape was truly something special.

[@Cypheruous]

Came back to relive the experience of runescape, but I stayed for all the new ones I never got to have when I was a kid. I love exploring all the aspects of the game that used to be out of my reach.

[@mdccxxvii]

Love this Jim. The sequence with Ironmen, area-locked, etc. was incredible

[@slamduncan1392]

Just started playing runescape for the first time 3 months ago, and I'm the embodiment of this video. I Used to play a shit ton of wow, really enjoyed classic vanilla rerelease for its simplicity and that feeling of grinding out an item that you know will treat you well for many months to come (shoutout sgc!). But as time went on the culture/feel of the game begins to blur. The raid locking you out of that item you really want, the limited gold grind for your character depending on class and professions, the endless levelling of characters you don't really *want* to play but would be good for your speed/parse runs or for another topical gold farm, keeping those characters "up to date". When I look at my characters I leveled and the items I've acquired or grinded for in WoW, it feels like they are all on a timer. Whether that be newer ilvl dwarfing it in the next season/raid or level bracket increasing, the perceived impermanence of the things I invested time into eventually degrading leaves an annoying taste in my mouth. People like to isolate games as a binary "this game is bad because of this or this game is objectively good because of this" but in reality, there is so much more that goes on in our brains and daily lives that *make* each game. One outside factor to take into account is if you are between jobs, in school, or simply just find yourself having a lot of free time, runescape's market of progress storage is miles better than WoW. For a lot of grindy WoW players, it feels like there is a huge rat race at the beginning of each large content release that if you can't commit to in that point in time can make the climb to the top feel that much harder. Don't get me wrong, the difference in time spent is likely marginal depending on how you play the game but simply the perceiving of the game in a more "all in" attitude does not help the burn out and eventual restarting of the cycle. I don't know when I will burn out of playing OSRS. I'm about to be 1800 total and have definitely been learning and playing enough to be conducive to burning out, but I can't really ever predict when its going to happen. All of that being said, to tie up my thoughts regarding this video, I know two things to be true. I'm not playing OSRS for nostalgia, and whenever I do stop playing OSRS, I will be back.

[@philaturers]

I am a proof that you don't need any nostalgia attached to this game to become a big fan of it. I started in 2015-2016 and created so many different accounts since then. The game is just that good. And the community is unique.

[@tylerjacobson4300]

That goblin taking damage sound is for real one of the most nostalgic noises.

[@Slevender]

crazy good video, the edit on minute 9 was amazing

[@nosclock1446]

your one of the few people i actually watch the youtubers special made ads i really enjoy your bits talking about food or the ag1 ones there funny and entertaining

[@TheIndirectgaming]

RuneScape early game is nostalgic but once you start unlocking stuff and getting drops you become addicted to what it is today.

[@bararobberbaron859]

^ THIS! "grinding" woodcutting to unlock the rune axe feels nostalgic but once you've got an Infernal axe you are absolutely not being nostalgic, you're just grinding Woodcutting ;) Though I do have to admit, my mining is 85 out of nostalgia, because I always hated the skill but desired that stat all the way back in 2004, so now I have it. I don't mine rune with it but hey, I could.

[@LifeAfterRS]

well said

[@3chromedomed]

the unguided cut away caught me offguard. That guy is insane. I cant wait from him to do mep2 without a guide.

[@JackdawWatcher]

My favourite OSRS series along with GG

[@kyleemery3329]

@@JackdawWatcher me too!

[@RobHedley]

Nostalgia definitely got me to make an OSRS account, but creators like you give me the drive to come back to it time and time again.

[@ericpeterson2960]

I liked the video. Ya put so much work into just the thumb. Well done

[@Juju_Miner]

Nostalgia gets you to log in. The gameplay is what gets you to stay.

[@GodsAmongMortals]

Hearing born to do this will always be my hype song , so gas.

[@lm-Wilhelm]

Exactly, it's still a fair part of it, no one's saying it's the only reason we're here

[@Caio22011]

Yes, which is literally the reason the game exists We came to this game because of nostalgia 100%

[@itsOZone]

There's a decent chunk of hardcore players now that never played B4 osrs. Even big names like settled started in osrs

[@AntiJovian]

I literally just went through this. A week ago I wanted to check out that old game me and my friends used to play in public libraries. Instead I dove deep into training and I'm calculating optimal exp/profit while preparing for Dragon Slayer. Probably gonna by membership by the end of the month once I hit around 40 on all skills.

[@DelPlays]

As a World of Warcraft player since 2004.. I can confirm. I started Runescape years before WoW.. And I continued Runescape years after I quit WoW permanently. WoW was just a temporary stop next to the Runescape journey

[@INTs]

i'm not a WoW player, but doesnt WoW have more content? or is that just not true?

[@Overcrox]

@@INTs WoW has tried a few things, but not nearly to the extent that OSRS has, and the overall WoW classic progression has been more of a rerun than a restart. I imagine they're a little more hesitant to completely fork the classic and retail experiences by using classic as a new blank slate the way OSRS has, and Blizzard's also had a lot of issues in recent times that I'm sure are really diminishing their development resources, and that's aside from the fact that Blizzard has multiple other games to actively maintain. WoW classic has definitely done well but it seems like it's not high enough on their priority list for them to give it the sort of attention Jagex has given OSRS, considering all the momentum they have to keep rolling in their other products (retail WoW, Overwatch, Hearthstone, Diablo, Starcraft, etc). Honestly, I bet if they did commit to taking classic WoW down a different path more wholeheartedly (fleshing out the base classic experience rather than just going through the expansion reruns) it might work out, but they're splitting themselves pretty thin at the moment between base classic, what is currently Cataclysm classic, retail WoW, and Season of Discovery classic. SoD seems like they might be dipping their toes into the idea of expanding classic proper, but we'll see.

[@99range92def]

@@INTs Wow constantly makes old expansions irrelevent while osrs does not, osrs has way more content than wow.

[@MyNameIsSalo]

@@INTs isnt wow just spam raiding the same dungeon over and over again? Like what do you mean content? Sure there's heaps of content you CAN do, but no one does it. Everyone is funneled towards a few select activities. In OSRS, no such mechanic exists. Every boss or skilling method or item or pvm activity has a purpose, nothing is made irrelevant by new better updates. WoW has a lot of content and 99% of it is dead. OSRS may have less content (idk exactly) but most of it is very alive. This is further exaggerated by game modes like ironman, leagues, collection logs etc like even minigames that give absolutely 0 reward still have a small community behind it because people want to do it for the collection log slots. There is always a reason for someone to interact with something ingame, and as a player you always feel overwhelemed with choices as to which content you want to tackle next.

[@INTs]

@@MyNameIsSalo Did I not say "I am not not a WoW player?" just going off the shit i heard from friends who have ever only played WoW lol

[@DaSnicklefritz]

Hopefully I dont make this too long, but it definitely isn't nostalgia still holding the reins. I joined your chat channel after being a solo casual player for years and finally being social in an mmo (wild, I know) has opened the game up so damn much for me. I finally got my fire cape, god capes, Im finishing grandmaster quests, all while being cheered on by your absolutely incredible fanbase. All this to say, you, J1mmy, have done more for my osrs experience than a nostalgia tickle ever did. Thank you homie, for everything.

[@adriank7576]

First time seeing any of your content. That was a very well made and put together video. I really enjoyed it. Well done.

[@ding0s212]

I think that out of everything, what's keeping Old School RuneScape afloat is our ability to communicate with the developers. What if they put out updates and then went total silence when half the game was broken and unplayable? No, instead when an update drops mod goblin is on Reddit, answering a hundred questions, addressing concerns, raising issues with the team, and getting stuff done. Hotfixes are made within hours of updates, and what isn't fixed immediately is communicated to be fixed soon(tm), and usually is. Also, polls! I know we joke about everything passing in polls, but I think part of that is the new process. An update is proposed and feedback is actually taken from the community, changed until it's in a good place, and then polled for final approval. Oftentimes it's obvious a proposal in its current form is just wrong, and it's either scrapped or reworked entirely. It's not a perfect system by any means, but dang it, it's really cool that they do that.

[@Hollow_Tim]

Yeah, it would be even more cool if they actually stuck to polling and didn’t sneak in changes no one asked for like censorship without polling.

[@Overcrox]

Very true. So much of what goes wrong in the digital space (not just games, but websites and apps too) is developers pushing "great new updates" that conflict with or outright break what already works about the game or platform. For a really boring and grown-up example, Quickbooks (a billing program) pushed out a terrible new update in the past few months that's wreaking havoc on everyone who relied on it. If they were willing to just admit the update sucks and roll it back, things would be fine, but tech updates are so often approached now with a no-communication, no-takebacks attitude and it's really infuriating and exhausting. It's never quite that serious with games, but I think the same philosophy applies. If you change things without warning and without any willingness to admit you were wrong, your userbase will resent it. But if you ask them what they want, let them try things out and work together to find the best path forward, you can avoid stagnation without breaking things that already work.

[@lm-Wilhelm]

If J1mmy had his way he'd scrap polls lol

[@whatsoup]

nostalgia is what inspired me to download and play OSRS for a day back in 2014, the game itself is what inspired me to sink another 6000 hours into it over the course of the next 10 years

[@jord_2wYT]

Dude those really long render distance shots are so cool

[@CatanBlack]

I love the questlines in this game and want so many more of them. Quests are so slow to release so i'll take a year break and come back to like 3-5 of them.

[@Blackobluna]

I actually got so hyped, I might have to log back in

[@OrigamiSlice]

Do it

[@GodsAmongMortals]

Dew it

[@AfflictionMadness]

"Just ask Wolrd Of Warcraft players, they're right here" Lmao

[@vexx168]

Honestly. The Ad bit for hello fresh. Was hilarious. Thanks for making the time to make an ad I didn’t just skip through. Keep it up jim!

[@TheReiindeer]

I never played or even heard of RuneScape pre-eoc. I tried RuneScape 3 like 4 or 5 years ago because I was a kid looking for free games, tried it and got bored pretty quickly. Fast forward 2022, my friend convinced me to give oldschool a try and I did because I had nothing better to do. Here I am today with nearly base 70s, starting a new group hc with my friends just for the fun of it, and my passion for oldschool RuneScape isn’t dwindling one bit. I love this game because of how it is.

[@idontevengame1]

Runescape will always have some layer of nostalgia considering a lot of people started playing in elementary school. The thing is, no one even knew how to actually play the game back then. The main reason people continue to play is because its a genuinely fun game

[@IainDoherty51]

It's also got a crazy high skillcap when you start looking at the PvM and PvP sides of things. Where the playerbase has reached the point where there's stuff that respects and rewards precision... and yet they've also figured out how to go the opposite way and minimise the amount required for most of the content 😂

[@spyarchnemesis3871]

​@@IainDoherty51 Not true. It may seem high, but if you compare with to strategy games or fighting games, the skill gap is minimal. The reason you don't see that many "pros" is because reaching end game content is a big time commitment, it easily takes you more than 100 hours. Biggest limiting factors in osrs is the RNG and the 0.6s tick system.

[@IainDoherty51]

@@spyarchnemesis3871 It's still a lot higher than most of the other MMOs, which are what you compare it with. Fighting, Strategy and such games tend to have some crazy levels of skill tied to getting good at them and rely on a lot of learning the mechanics, but they're also a totally different style to OSRS. OSRS on the other hand is often a lot less forgiving at the high ends of the challenge for things like Combat Achievements, which is something that doesn't show up as much outside of PvP in other MMOs

[@johnnygongy]

How is RNG skill?? Gotta think before replying my dude. Plus osrs is a left click game. Any fps game pretty much beats it since you have to aim your shots instead of left clicking on top of something.

[@IainDoherty51]

@@johnnygongy ... You pretty clearly haven't seen the bullshit nonsense where the top end players are doing sequences where they need to make multiple clicks within a 0.6s period, and stack effects with different timings, all while responding to what their target is doing and making zero errors across 20-30 minutes of gameplay. Sure a lot of it is fairly easy by comparison, but the top end challenges are nuts when people start optimising them

[@rorykeefe8954]

9:38 “No shoes, we’re feet locked.” has to be the GREATEST quote relating to OSRS I’ve ever heard. Not personally a foot kinda guy, but that concept to me is just that funny. Like, why even?

[@migjordanpayawal7856]

Someone has to do it now

[@rorykeefe8954]

@@migjordanpayawal7856 sounds like a job a godly content creator (J1mmy) would do / go for

[@mdccxxvii]

​@@migjordanpayawal7856I think it's been done. Pretty sure every idea he mentioned has already been a series by someone

[@waylandli24]

The sequence of Jim losing his shit as he goes through all the different challenges you can do has got to be one of my favorite J1mmy video sequences, and that's including the time Gary Gilbert got high by lighting fires in a f2p server

[@knightyknight2]

Old School nostalgia is what made me come back, the dev team and future vision for the game is what made me stay.

[@Bryan_K_27435]

8:09 This is the best part. The sheer madness of snowballing into more and more and more limitations

[@AsheOfAx]

And I love how there’s so many out there that even in that flurry he can’t name them all! I wonder how long a list of all the snowflake accounts out there would be

[@bararobberbaron859]

@@AsheOfAx How granular do you want to get too? Got the monk (skiller that also trains prayer), no def, only def, one skill at a time, one level at a time, ultRNG (Using RNG to roll what skill you train next, for how long, where and in what method), collection log focused, bronzeman, all the different alt options, twins, triplets. The list really is endless, these are just the ones I can think of that I didn't see Jimmy mention.

[@KairosGaming]

"Feet Locked" 😂

[@wutgussy]

What is kairos doing here??

[@aarondingman]

Only J1mmy puts out a 15 minute "I disagree video" where i stop whatever im doing, watch the whole thing, and log back on OSRS right after 😂 Such a cohesive and well thought out video. Can see your passion for the game and community shine through. Keep doing you!

[@MyNameIsSalo]

log back on after? I'm playing while watching, cant lose the xp

[@keylegacy1106]

I wasn't ready for that ending 😂 Great video man. You highlight a lot of things that I think people overlook about osrs and got me feeling proud of our community and all the ingenuity within it

[@CARAMELLDANSENDESU]

That mic drop at the end was so clever and well placed

[@BillSchrader]

Rivetting…

[@C6Z06J]

14:09 the scrub back right with DHL and Gaurdian boots. Thats me! excited to be a part of a J1mmy video!!

[@user-nb3db3gu5u]

The ad segment was genuinely funny enough to make me watch the entirety of it despite the fact its probably the 100th time I've seen a Hello Fresh advertisement.

[@ericwashenko1385]

Hellll yeah. Got to be a part of the screenshot at the end.

[@civilservant9528]

We returned for the nostalgia, we stayed for the new / polished content

[@Zayzed]

Unique accounts are what makes this game. The freedom that you get for creating one is second to none and no other MMO will come close to this game and communities ability to do so. (totally unbiased take btw)

[@stretchymc5126]

its almost an oxymoron but its true, restricted unique accounts can provide so much freedom and a breath of fresh air to the game if its getting stale for you playing a generic main or ironman

[@CptKorn]

Even just being a proxy (me watching your videos because I dont have time to do it myself) to restricted accounts is extremely entertaining

[@lonnie6954]

​@@stretchymc5126I'm a pretty bad player but I love making new HCs to try and get further than my last. My regular iron (died safepotting fire giants) is actually further along than my main, mostly because it forced me to interact with more of the game.

[@cheddyh4032]

disagree, I think ticks make this game. The tick system is just the most goated way to do mmo combat imo

[@blitzan2363]

Cant wait untill you upload again bro, big fan of the boss locked series!

[@Fightclub710]

Your by release series pushed me to play osrs, and i got my quest cape last night. Thanks for the push, turns out that was all i needed.

[@Leleleleleleleleleo]

You're the GOAT, J1mmy. I honestly cried a little bit watching this. Thank you

[@namesaresohard]

"No shoes, we're feetlocked" 🥵

[@Godzilla1282]

I played Runescape back in 2003, came back in 2008, added in WoW right as Wrath of the Lich King was about to release but kept up with RS until shortly after the Squeal of Fortune came out. I ended up being a raid leader in a Top 10 US guild in WoW and stayed with that until Warlords of Draenor so about 6 years or so. I came back to OSRS. Stopped for another 2 years, and now I'm back and have been since really my Master's degree schooling in 2017. There was 1 year break for WotLK private server, but Ican't imagine fully leaving OSRS. It's so good. No other game has kept me coming back over and over like it does.

[@MadMalMan]

Wrath of the Lich King was peak WOW, although cracks were showing.

[@Mnsooney]

That video ending is a chefs kiss moment. Excellent work.

[@JetrinLee]

We really had a renaissance of OSRS over these few years and it always keeps me connected to the community even after all these 10+ years

[@mdaz23]

"You think you do, but you don't" I feel aged perfectly well and a big difference between Classic and OSRS is this whole video. Classic is Nostalgia and that's passed for Classic. Blizzard received 2 million new subs when Classic came out. No one plays Eras, Cata Classic is at it's lowest point in player base, but still has more players than SoD and Hardcore. Over 4 different versions of Classic and it still has lost around 90% of the original player base, meanwhile OSRS has doubled. I am glad that those who are sticking with it have the version of the game they want to play available to them, but to the vast majority of people "You think you do, but you don't".

[@Lewtable]

In fairness I think Classic's population was largely bloated by tourists, it had massive media attention, even becoming the no.1 most watched game on twitch during the original 2019 release and for the month or two that followed. I do think J Allen Brack's statement was mostly true though, but I personally feel like a lot of people didn't necessarily disagree with the statement itself, just that he worded it as poorly and condescendingly as possible without straight up insulting people.

[@cattysplat]

@@Lewtable That Cata classic exists kind of justifies Brack's statement. Cata is literally Retail lite, it is not Classic at all. Yet here we are.

[@sideshowirl6779]

I'm so embarrassed that I can name EVERY content creator shown by their character

[@CptKorn]

You shouldn't be, it's a testament to how good of a sandbox osrs is thats there so much good content to be madr.

[@yoga9161]

Then do it. Name every single one.

[@1august12]

Oh so you like runescape? Name every character.

[@davidk6656]

Such a well-done video. Pretty much sums up the thoughts of so many who have or still play the game.

[@ethanfisher5414]

The cheekiness behind that ending. Absolutely SUBLIME J1M

[@jones877]

I had nostalgia when i logged back into osrs in 2018. I heard the music walking around f2p. But then i went into members and got a quest cape, then an achievement cape, then started pvming. I unlocked everything i never did as a f2p kid and still play.

[@JonTheGamerGuru]

There isn’t a 3 hour long video essay about why this game is amazing for no reason

[@tappajaav]

Absolutely agree with you. Back when OSRS launched in 2013, I felt nostalgia upon seeing the classic login screen and hearing the music. And maybe the first few times I did something I hadn't seen or done in the game for years. After that, it was just for the sake of enjoying the experience(all the meanings of it). Lovely entertainment, mr jimmy. I haven't seen many of your videos, but the quality is consistently very high, and they're always a treat. I also made a very rare exception and viewed the whole ad segment, because I found the mix of deadpan delivery, sarcasm and genuine advertising hilarious.

[@Zihark_]

14:03 The absolute burn 🔥😂😂😂😂 You genuinely just made my day.

[@ajap19]

As a WoW player, I started playing OSRS 1month ago. Yes its the best MMO-RPG experience, yes its stand alone game, yes I play ironman and I wont quit, just take break.

[@GodsAmongMortals]

Glad to have ya

[@davellii6309]

OSRS Players never quit, they take breaks :) Have fun bro, say goodbye to your dopamine receptors because they will absolutely be fried

[@imeffinrad]

that ending went hard

[@Confit688]

I came back to RuneScape for that sense of nostalgia back in lockdown, and its the updates that get done weekly that keeps me here!! Bravo on such a good video