J24 2024 Midwinters Race 1, Heavy air racing 30 gusting to 40 knots with onboard crew discussion.

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Sail Dallas

Sail Dallas

Күн бұрын

2024 J24 midwinters at Davis Island Yacht Club race 1. We had a rough start but we climbed our way to 11th in 30 knots gusting to 40 knots. After this race, the race committee decided to abandon for the day due to the conditions. We hit a top speed of 11.8 knots and were planning on most of the downwind legs.
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Broach at 27:20
Near collision 46:34
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Пікірлер: 114
@DavidSteffensen
@DavidSteffensen 10 ай бұрын
Great to see a crew, who have worked together for some time, simply getting on with it. A pleasure to watch.
@SailDallasRacing
@SailDallasRacing 10 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@jacksparrow-yd4ei
@jacksparrow-yd4ei 10 ай бұрын
Brings back some great memories of my own J24 days.
@steveerickson715
@steveerickson715 10 ай бұрын
Nice - thanks for sharing. Reminds me of some good ole days on my old boat - 1772
@peterabild1123
@peterabild1123 10 ай бұрын
Love this video. Reminds me of good old days
@SailDallasRacing
@SailDallasRacing 10 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@dp5475
@dp5475 10 ай бұрын
Good stuff! Looked like a great race. Although you left us in suspense at the end there.
@SailDallasRacing
@SailDallasRacing 10 ай бұрын
Ha we ended up getting it down no problem.
@PhilipCatley
@PhilipCatley 10 ай бұрын
Fantastic video Thankyou.
@pauldavidbell
@pauldavidbell 10 ай бұрын
That was a pretty amazing set at 21:30!!! Super smooth recovery at 22:55, I would've been toast! Looks like your number was up at 27:20, but everyone kept their wits about them (like you had done that before), got weight to the high side, sheets out, vang off, and prepped for douse - almost like a TEAM!!! Great job team BadMoon!!!
@18thhoursailing
@18thhoursailing 10 ай бұрын
Glad you had a hitch to get there
@SailDallasRacing
@SailDallasRacing 10 ай бұрын
Thank you We have practice our broaches at the 2022 worlds at Ccyc. I figured out if you put it in 4k you can actually see the speed on the prostart
@pauldavidbell
@pauldavidbell 10 ай бұрын
@@SailDallasRacing In 4K I still can't see the ProStart - that weird looking guy with the decent haircut, cool shades, and professional sailing gloves keeps getting in the way on the downwind runs - but 4K does reveal that the foredeck is smoking hot, wow!!! Some lucky guy better have her locked down!
@ThomasKeffer
@ThomasKeffer 6 ай бұрын
Keep the vang on, but let the pole forward. It was the spinnaker that was powering the boat through the leeward broach.
@ronjenkins4257
@ronjenkins4257 2 ай бұрын
Tough conditions. Well sailed. Great work by the sheet trimmer on the chute.
@thomasstegmann4502
@thomasstegmann4502 10 ай бұрын
Great video - demonstrating the joy of racing! Thanks from Germany...
@SailDallasRacing
@SailDallasRacing 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@georgemorris9971
@georgemorris9971 10 ай бұрын
Excellent crew work.
@SailDallasRacing
@SailDallasRacing 10 ай бұрын
Thank you very much!
@ericmackenzie123
@ericmackenzie123 10 ай бұрын
Got my blood pumping for the old days. Thanks!
@SailDallasRacing
@SailDallasRacing 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching!
@limosalimosa
@limosalimosa 10 ай бұрын
Fantastic, thanks for uploading this!
@SailDallasRacing
@SailDallasRacing 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching!
@PatrickHoodDaniel
@PatrickHoodDaniel 9 ай бұрын
28:26 looked like a heave-to. Nice white knuckle sailing. I sail out at Davis Island quite a bit, not racing. Love it out there.
@18thhoursailing
@18thhoursailing 10 ай бұрын
Pretty amazing crew work surving that mess. Great video
@SailDallasRacing
@SailDallasRacing 10 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@jonathanshore5768
@jonathanshore5768 10 ай бұрын
Great work on the down winds the tank comander did a good job what maybe was a touch too much I love his enthusiasm but keeping it simple is the key. Less is more at time.
@SailDallasRacing
@SailDallasRacing 10 ай бұрын
Very true thanks for the feedback
@jonathanshore5768
@jonathanshore5768 10 ай бұрын
That was the problem with us on American Magic not too many chiefs in the kitchen keep it simple so it can be concise for the back of the boat but honestly your down wind has legs. Get that up wind sheeting and get right and not being too conservative on the start and ya got a too 5 there in makings or better mate keep on keeping on
@jonathanshore5768
@jonathanshore5768 10 ай бұрын
Sailing with bill shore and glen Darden a quitter boat is fast happy boat though I enjoyed his enthusiasm a less is more approach would be better
@alfonsomorenopastor9388
@alfonsomorenopastor9388 10 ай бұрын
Enhorabuena, gran trabajo en equipo. Fasssstttttt!!!!!!!
@johngilmour6850
@johngilmour6850 10 ай бұрын
I hate it when I lose the tiller! (27:15). You did a good job of recovering.
@SailDallasRacing
@SailDallasRacing 10 ай бұрын
That was the final nail in the coffin!
@timford6114
@timford6114 10 ай бұрын
Great vid! And yeah, some good ole days on 4201
@ItaewonYachtClub
@ItaewonYachtClub 10 ай бұрын
AWESOME
@SailDallasRacing
@SailDallasRacing 10 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@SailingTeamTallyHo
@SailingTeamTallyHo 10 ай бұрын
Good work on the downwinds! A few broaches around you and almost some death rolls but you kept it going until the head stay wrap. From j24 fleet #1 up in wayzata…we have lots of conditions like this at the time of the j24 NAs this fall..c’mon up!
@SailDallasRacing
@SailDallasRacing 10 ай бұрын
We might you need to come to worlds in Seattle.
@martygingras8683
@martygingras8683 10 ай бұрын
Super fun. Snorting on the final run. You guys have done that before!
@SailDallasRacing
@SailDallasRacing 10 ай бұрын
Thank you we have once or twice
@rbr123
@rbr123 4 ай бұрын
Excelente boat. Congratulations.
@SailingMarieholmIF
@SailingMarieholmIF 10 ай бұрын
Great weather!
@SailDallasRacing
@SailDallasRacing 10 ай бұрын
Yes it was!
@rjensen256
@rjensen256 8 ай бұрын
Awesome work by that bow person.
@SailDallasRacing
@SailDallasRacing 7 ай бұрын
She’s bad ass😎
@jacksparrow-yd4ei
@jacksparrow-yd4ei 10 ай бұрын
Great teamwork. You guys have obviously been sailing together for some time. Impressive kite work. conditions dont appear to be as strong as what is suggested in the title although enough to provide some great sailing.😢
@SailDallasRacing
@SailDallasRacing 10 ай бұрын
Thank you I just take the forecast from what it says online!
@oldshad65
@oldshad65 10 ай бұрын
"Rooster tailing". Well run boat
@SailDallasRacing
@SailDallasRacing 10 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@brunobeckers4702
@brunobeckers4702 10 ай бұрын
Great video. Positive: - A very capable crew with good spinacker settings. - Good communication between skipper and crew. - Good recovery from Chinese jibe. Room for improvement: - Main sail trimming is simply not good. - Outhaul is not tight enough, the sail is far too full to beat in these conditions. You have problems to sail the same height as the competition. - Instead of tightening the main sheet, you pull-up the traveler which is a major trimming error in these windy conditions. - You loosen the main far too often for no apparent reason ( fluffing) when beating. Many times, the boat barey has sufficient heeling. - Manoeuvre announcements can be improved. - You count down a manoeuvre like "3...2..." but then you stop. It should be followed by "...1...TACK!" So the crew knows EXACTLY when to tack. - Same with commands like "we need to jibe" and then you suddenly jibe !? - Euh...where are these 35 to 40knots ??? ;-)
@SailDallasRacing
@SailDallasRacing 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for the feedback!
@dogwapofthebarnowlbakery3655
@dogwapofthebarnowlbakery3655 10 ай бұрын
Sporty out there! Nice recovery after the Chinese.
@18thhoursailing
@18thhoursailing 10 ай бұрын
You have the longest KZbin handle ever. I am impressed
@SailDallasRacing
@SailDallasRacing 10 ай бұрын
Thank you we have practiced that recovery a few times if you know what I mean.
@aroy1563
@aroy1563 10 ай бұрын
Nice video, but looks like 20 knots max. Certainly not 30-40.
@SailDallasRacing
@SailDallasRacing 10 ай бұрын
I can send you the forecast from that day
@LanceRyley
@LanceRyley 10 ай бұрын
Nice broach recovery - no panic and well done. You probably already know this but when you get a wrap like that around the forestay, if you gybe, it will unwrap. Please don't ask how I know :) Great video, hope the rest of your seres went well.
@SailDallasRacing
@SailDallasRacing 10 ай бұрын
I didn’t know that but it makes sense thank you and thank you for watching.
@nikitabykov9586
@nikitabykov9586 10 ай бұрын
The last downwind was satisfying to watch. You should have shown how you managed to untangle the spinaker wrap around the forestay)))
@SailDallasRacing
@SailDallasRacing 10 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@Alicechun
@Alicechun 6 ай бұрын
good sailing,nice teamwork but no way for 40 knots :)
@randallbates8891
@randallbates8891 17 күн бұрын
Ye Ha! my hats off to you racers. I'd be heavily reefed down IF I was caught out. I'd never knowingly sail in those conditions, especially on a lake. Ocean, heave to and drift given sea room. No such luxury on a land bound lake.
@petesteel
@petesteel 10 ай бұрын
30 gust 40 Knts?!? You mean km/h!
@SailDallasRacing
@SailDallasRacing 10 ай бұрын
No I mean knots! Crazy day
@petesteel
@petesteel 10 ай бұрын
never ever…but most important: you’ve had fun!
@levio1463
@levio1463 10 ай бұрын
How did you end up getting the spin un-wrapped there at the end? I have wrapped my spin and it resulted in me getting towed back to the harbor with the spin still up shredding its self against the rig. Now I always hoist the jib before a spin drop, even at the end of races.
@SailDallasRacing
@SailDallasRacing 10 ай бұрын
In this case we had to lower the halyard and the trimmer went up and untwisted it. It luckily wasn’t wrapped too bad. It took him a minute to do it. I would recommend gathering the foot of the sail before dropping the halyard.
@levio1463
@levio1463 10 ай бұрын
⁠@@SailDallasRacingmine was wrapped so tight we couldn’t even move the jib halyard. But yeah, if you have both corners controlled your pretty safe, but sometimes things just get fluky.
@SailDallasRacing
@SailDallasRacing 10 ай бұрын
@@levio1463agreed I personally have had to cut one lucky it was a old one.
@yanncalderwood4900
@yanncalderwood4900 4 ай бұрын
nice video. I was wondering why your twings and spinnaker sheet and guy are running on the inside of the lifeline rather than outside?
@TroyWical0
@TroyWical0 5 ай бұрын
On those downwind legs why were you occasionally pulling on the main? Really enjoyed the video!
@SailDallasRacing
@SailDallasRacing 5 ай бұрын
“Pumping” we were trying to initiate a surf of waves
@TroyWical0
@TroyWical0 5 ай бұрын
@@SailDallasRacing Ah, right on.
@roanjovitaro9013
@roanjovitaro9013 10 ай бұрын
😊great 😊✌👍
@SailDallasRacing
@SailDallasRacing 10 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@Gunny_
@Gunny_ 3 ай бұрын
When going downwind, what is the person looking backwards communicating with up 1, down 1?
@ruthwillcox5502
@ruthwillcox5502 9 ай бұрын
Love this video. Thanks for sharing! Why do you pump the main when you’re running?
@speedyjoejag9853
@speedyjoejag9853 10 ай бұрын
Could use a little boom vang on the downwind legs and some Cunningham going up
@SailDallasRacing
@SailDallasRacing 10 ай бұрын
I definitely agree!
@huisbrand
@huisbrand 10 ай бұрын
Are Dallas knots (wind speed) different from normal knots elsewhere?
@SailDallasRacing
@SailDallasRacing 10 ай бұрын
@@huisbrand1.15 mph
@fcj242373
@fcj242373 10 ай бұрын
How about some traveler down going upwind…
@fcj242373
@fcj242373 10 ай бұрын
@@huisbrand Right. That was not 35-40. 18-22ish it looks to me.
@dutchflats
@dutchflats 3 ай бұрын
I probably would've had the luff of the main tighter in those wind conditions....halyard and or Cunningham.
@sossmoss20
@sossmoss20 Ай бұрын
Geez, why did they wait so long to tack over for the line? Starting a country mile behind….love to see the race but wow.
@terencetwentyman-jones8861
@terencetwentyman-jones8861 8 ай бұрын
Was it the plan to start after everyone else?
@SailDallasRacing
@SailDallasRacing 8 ай бұрын
Kinda we wanted to be on the boat side and tack out early it ended up paying
@dirkjansen3440
@dirkjansen3440 7 ай бұрын
Do you use your compass for wind shifts?
@SailDallasRacing
@SailDallasRacing 7 ай бұрын
We have a Compass for the heading but Our tactician keeps track of the numbers in his head.
@CaptainRon1913
@CaptainRon1913 4 ай бұрын
No foreguy?
@SailDallasRacing
@SailDallasRacing 4 ай бұрын
Have one added now
@notme2620
@notme2620 7 ай бұрын
30 knots maybe over stated here, but great sailing under these condition.
@davex5424
@davex5424 10 ай бұрын
Start. He crossed the starting line in last place
@SailDallasRacing
@SailDallasRacing 10 ай бұрын
I agree poor start but taking out early payed.
@GaryParkin-u5l
@GaryParkin-u5l 10 ай бұрын
Classic case of helm trying to do too much........costing you loads man
@SailDallasRacing
@SailDallasRacing 10 ай бұрын
Can you elaborate more please. Are you talking about too much tiller movement? I’m not quite sure what you mean.
@svcyclops
@svcyclops 10 ай бұрын
When trimming the main you might want to change the path of your hand. You go from block to your backside. Try going to your ear. You will get a lot more trim for each pull.
@SailDallasRacing
@SailDallasRacing 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for the tip I agree get more sheet per pull.
@fixento
@fixento 15 күн бұрын
I've been racing sailboat for over 60 years, mostly on Lake Erie racing R Class sailboat, Rboats. There is no way this boat could carry a chute and full main if the wind was 30 gusting to 40 knot winds during this video. The water is flat in this video so the committee must have called the race before the wind hit. Why are you trimning the main and being on the helm? Nice jib, but why is the guy block move forward to double as a foreguy, the pool is skying. A downhaul or foreguy on the spinnaker pole would keep that pole horizontal making life a lot easier on the trimmer and boat faster.
@AlohaRaceTeam
@AlohaRaceTeam 10 ай бұрын
Very late start
@SailDallasRacing
@SailDallasRacing 10 ай бұрын
Agreed a little rusty.
@DaveMills-zp4ee
@DaveMills-zp4ee 5 ай бұрын
Respectfully. Not sure why you would put your crew and boat through some pretty gnatly conditions and not at least try for a competitive start.
@davex5424
@davex5424 10 ай бұрын
It appears he is on the wrong side of the course.
@elcid749
@elcid749 10 ай бұрын
Kts = knots
@davex5424
@davex5424 10 ай бұрын
He tacks way to early. 10.40.
@johnrawlins3071
@johnrawlins3071 Ай бұрын
Poor boat handling avoid collisions at all costs!
@davex5424
@davex5424 10 ай бұрын
He fouls the first mark.
@SailDallasRacing
@SailDallasRacing 10 ай бұрын
Which mark are you referring to?
@paulkircher9542
@paulkircher9542 6 ай бұрын
15 20 sec late for the start and passed a ton of holes on on port on the right 10% of the line? Terrible start, worse tactics at start
@MrNeonerl
@MrNeonerl 9 ай бұрын
life vests are overrated
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