Jack Dempsey and Rocky Marciano on the Phantom Punch

[@jedcampett7328]

Jack Dempsey and Rocky Marciano on the same set at the same time.. very impressive! Two great fighters in two different eras..two very hard hitting fighters. Two of the very best ever!

[@Bobby.D.1776]

Why so impressive? Bcz they're two little white guys that would be smashed in seconds today?

[@littlezachary8963]

Rocky was a highly intelligent sportsman who could eloquently discuss his chosen sport. I have seen many interviews with Rocky and he is always gracious in his comments. A true hero of sport.

[@clintmullins8670]

I very much was impressed about his breaking down of the Moves In and Out from a Fighter's POV

[@nawfsidereviews6029]

This was a treat I've never heard Jack Dempsey's voice.

[@gheffz]

Yeah!!

[@lt7082]

Great archive film.

[@jogman262]

His voice was even tough.

[@breakneck777]

@M Soccer is only played by cowards affraid to get hit

[@jonathanhanser5914]

@M GTFOOH!...who cares...this is a boxing post ...bunny hop over to some soccer clip.

[@zoomonkeydotcom2005]

Marciano has the coolest, vintage speaking pattern/voice I’ve ever heard . He’s so classic and what a fighter !!!

[@ThatRandomBeatle]

that’s the kind of accent you only hear from og locals everyone over 40 in the area sounds just like him still

[@timcarr6401]

@@ThatRandomBeatle That's reassuring. I would like to think that not only that accent, but the articulate manner is still current.

[@timcarr6401]

Everyone expressed themselves so well with no cursing or bragging.

[@MosquitoValentineNH]

OG Boston accent

[@michaelmooney7341]

Sad he died something.ugh. could have made millions as a sports color commentator.. maybe even acting..

[@rj6683]

Jack Dempsey a true gentleman, "if you can't say anything good don't say anything at all."

[@JohnS-il1dr]

And that philosophy is more true today

[@joeaverage7743]

The voice of my mother

[@sasazivanovic777]

Yeah.. true Class.

[@TheLemon333]

@@JohnS-il1dr Because there are 4 billion more people?

[@onlythewise1]

why how do we learn if we don't learn the negative, the bridge is out so i wont say it

[@AlStone2]

Seriously Dempsey looks like he could knock a guy out with a stern look

[@billthestinker]

Two scumbags in NYC tried to mug Dempsey when he was in his middle 60’s as he exited a taxi, they quickly found out why he was called The Manassa Mauler.

[@tomharrington7985]

he is the toughest sob of all time.

[@n.w.owhoknowstheshadowknow58]

Al Stone he looks how he ought ha, mean

[@kaseywinbornery5258]

@@billthestinker lol I would pay to see that honestly

[@j.l.4054]

@@billthestinker he was actually 75 when that happened - even more impressive! Imagine having that kind of dynamite in your fists for your entire life...

[@freqeist]

Marciano died 4 ys after this interview, he as 45 Dempsey on the other hand had a long life and died 1983 aged 87 geat gentlemen

[@jhrockgod]

neil brown Weird how Dempsey looked 87 years old in this clip isn't it.

[@hedgehog1965uk]

Yeah, this must have been filmed just before Dempsey's 70th birthday (24 June '65), which was about a month after the "Ali/Liston II" fight (25 May '65).

[@berlin695]

What do you mean? Was Dempsey a gentleman only because he died at 87 yr?

[@jlove0311]

Dempsey was anything but a gentleman...

[@swansonz3534]

@@jlove0311 sure he was

[@fmruksf6614]

Marciano(the brockton blockbuster)and Dempsey(avenging angel of death) on the same show.Both Legends R.I.P.

[@borisnatashabaddonoff6919]

Jack Dempsey Was From Manasseh Colorado And They Called Him The Manasseh Mauler Because He Would Literally Maul A Man The Way A Pissed Off Bear Who Had His Nuts Caught In A Steel Trap Would Maul A Man.

[@SunTzuMedia]

2 of the best to ever do it come from my hometown of Brockton mass. Rocky and Hagler! 💪💯💪

[@williamfrawley1175]

@@borisnatashabaddonoff6919 HA I was just about to say that.

[@DW-nb2zc]

@@borisnatashabaddonoff6919 Right.That nickname I've heard of, don't know where he got the “Avenging Angel of Death"🤔

[@KorithStoneheart]

Dempsey was known as the Manassa Mauler

[@samnewton62]

I have the sudden urge to go smoke some Prince Albert tobacco.

[@tinaspringer651]

All I can think about now is log rolling. Funny though I never knew it was a sport.

[@tmcge3325]

me too!!!!!!!!

[@OnyxXThePunch]

I know right

[@peglegnoid6139]

Let Prince Albert out of the can.

[@mauricegarvey4631]

Hey, the proof is in the puffing

[@jogman262]

Man, a Dempsey-Marciano fight would have been something.

[@mdmcdd1117]

+Mark S Yes sir!!!!!!! Rocky knocks him out though.

[@jogman262]

+Christopher David D. I think Rocky eventually wears him down too. You can put Frazier up against Dempsey or Marciano, and it would be great also. Same with Tyson and those three. All "in your face" kind of fighters.

[@jmi0112]

Watch Marciano then watch any Tyson fight up until 1988 and tell me what you see.

[@shotgunshawzy]

+Mark S wud never hapn too much respect killas recognize killas

[@mdmcdd1117]

***** Yes sir.

[@robertmacleod7587]

jack Dempsey is scarry even at that age

[@rayjr62]

He was one of the nicest, most generous people you could ever meet. But if you crossed him, watch out.

[@raffaballzz]

@aaron pryor he fought black fighters, just not as champion due to the times

[@chuckweiny1546]

Wuts funny to me is, not only looks scary, but fighters even when they're old would be an absolute terror for a young guy on a street corner. I think it is just ingrained in their bodies.

[@shanghunter7697]

@@chuckweiny1546 This is indeed true, i come from a long line of family pugilists. My great g.f. was a prize fighter,(1870's to 1890's) my grandfather (1920 to 1937) was a triple golden gloves champion and also my one uncle from 1935 to 1944). He was the toughest man ive ever seen, he even entered the Korean war at a very old age back then. He was 79 yrs old (considered heavyweight at 225 most of his life), i was 22 yrs old and at the V.F.W. one night to visit him and my aunt when i came into town. He was in the bathroom when i walked in, i was talking to my great aunt and these 3 iron workers started giving her a very hard time (she was elderly and the bartender). I tried being nice to them and told them she was my aunt and to please show her respect. Uncle Robert came out of the bathroom and was also kind to them, told them this is my sister you're speaking to like that. They cussed at him and in the matter of LESS than 3 seconds these 3 fellas were knocked out cold viciously !! Never in my life will i ever forget that moment and how fast, powerful and accurate. The 3 men spent a while in our local small town hospital, broken orbital bones, broken jaws, missing teeth. My point is yes, we certainly do know how to keep that power and instinct as long as we are alive. It's natural and never leaves one.

[@navysealsliedtheyneverburi430]

@@shanghunter7697 I have seen the exact same narrative in other places on the internet. Coincidence? Doubt it because we know who invented the internet and who controls it. Not to mention the ubiquitous govt troll who post comments while pretending to be a civilian.

[@benreilly5935]

It’s mad that Jack Dempsey at this age didn’t show any signs of slurred speech or brain damage considering how aggressive his style of fighting was

[@coachingconfidant2785]

it seems to be that those that fight on the offensive end up taking less damage than those that fight on the defensive like Ali,

[@Aqua.man045]

@@coachingconfidant2785 Genetics play a factor as well some just have a harder skull

[@coachingconfidant2785]

@@Aqua.man045 skull thickness doesnt matter really. Its more about the head withstanding movement

[@gregquinn7817]

He went basically his whole life without any signs of pugilistic dementia or tbi or cte. He only had some problems his last year or so after a major stroke, which at 88 probably had nothing to do with boxing

[@jonathanmitchell8752]

He moved his head a lot and smaller gloves back then.

[@B.Wayne88]

"If you can't say something good why say anything at all" Thanks for the reminder Jack🙏👍

[@gregmottola8539]

"Those funny moves that he makes..." Ah, Rock, you crack me up sometimes.

[@tubewatcher38]

Clay/Ali's moves were considered very unorthodox at that time.

[@paultaylor7624]

Marciano always sounded jealous of Muhammed ali and always had little digs at him at every opportunity

[@thatlonelygiraffeinc.6989]

@@tubewatcher38 still are today, in fact they're so refined, and odd, that they can be used in other martial arts, see the ufcs dominick cruz.

[@l.e.d.3775]

@@thatlonelygiraffeinc.6989 Also Anderson Silva

[@ackas2561]

@@paultaylor7624 marciano didnt like the lip, rocky was a man who did his talking in the ring, as most did back then, but clay had a big mouth and people didnt like that , including the rock...

[@MrDrmillgram]

Mentally Dempsey and Marciano both seem well. Amazing considering the punches they absorbed through long careers and their age.

[@heffejaywey7871]

Fr. Duffy Fighting 69th and fighting very close so as to negate max power from the opponent

[@cocotimbo]

Fr. Duffy Fighting 69th Well Marciano was the worst defensive fighter I ever saw. He was champ without beating anybody worth considering or in their prime.

[@raymondphillips7107]

cocotimbo it's hard to be defensive when you are always on the offensive! Rocky beat everyone he faced,it's was out of his control that the better fighters were on their way out at the time.

[@cocotimbo]

Raymond Phillips It's true. I do agree it's not his fault. I don't really agree when casual fans claim he's one of the best fighter ever or even the best just because he's undefeated. How many time we read here in KZbin "Marciano would beat Ali or Foreman or any of today heavyweight". Let's be real! The man was so small, so light, he had no head movement, no footwork AT ALL! Watch his fights please. He seems a lighter Chuvalo. A cruiserweight in today's division. Could he beat any 240 6.4 or 6.5 ft. fighter of the '90s or '00s? Even Ali, who would jab him him to death, Holmes the envious, Frazier with relentless stamina would beat him in 4 or 5 rounds. The man was standing still all the fight long. One little step at the time. Archie Moore knocked him down! Think what Foreman would do to Marciano or Bowe, Lewis. Joshua, Klitchko, etc. Bah...

[@raymondphillips7107]

cocotimbo his size shouldn't Diminish his legacy. The man never lost,was one of the hardest punchers of all time,rated by some experts as one of the best chins of all time...and NOBODY trained like him! Is rocky the best of all time?,maybe not. But you don't take away his abilities and the fact that he never lost.

[@steveeagel1917]

I met Dempsey at his restaurant in NYC, I was 22 at the time,I reached out to shake his hand and I quickly realized I made a very big mistake, his hand was like an iron vice.I thought to myself I better not cry ,god this man was a piece of steel even as an old man.I wouldn't bet against Dempsey if him and the Rock ever fought.

[@leetaylor7179]

Depmsey and Marciano ! Im lost for words ! RIP Legends.

[@Justin_is_Gross]

It’s crazy to think that all four of these legendary fighters existed at the same time. Sure mike was born in 1966 but all four were still alive at that time and it’s just a great thing to know and it’s mind blowing

[@jakemitchell1671]

Mike?

[@Mjolbaggar]

Amazing how good shape Dempsey was in at this age.

[@luisbohorquez7096]

Mjolbaggar They say that Dempsey knocked out two would be muggers that tried to assault him when he was well into his eighties

[@leagueofotters2774]

@@luisbohorquez7096 I believe he was 115 when that happened.

[@markasmaclean420]

Mjolbaggar that Dempsey roll seriously hoped him avoid head trauma. He was still talking so clearly

[@navysealsliedtheyneverburi430]

@The Ian Lev Experience Sure it did

[@gheffz]

And a smoker!

[@drumsport]

One of the most impressive photos of a boxer I've ever seen was Dempsey as a 14-year old. He was already very physically mature with large biceps and forearms. That photo was reputed to be immediately prior to Jack jumping a train and embarking on his boxing career. RIP Champ.

[@VICTOR947017]

When Jack Dempsy was a Youngs fighter his nick name was Blackie, he was working in a Coal mine and fighting for money ever night and got a lot of beating to start with, thats why be build up his physical and mental hardness to stay alive and i Think that his style was brutal like was rased to be by his invirement in the specific time, and when he older he got humle about the way to express his opinion about others like in this intervjun about the phantompunch. Wath they told is the truth and by champions of the sport of gentlemen, Boxing. The rest is speculations. Have heard about this punsch sens i was born and i think like Dempsy in the way he talked, let it be untold but expekted. Sonny Liston had a nick name Ali gave him it was the big ugly bear Ali gave him self to be the greatest champions of the all. He had opinions and had to be in prison in hos best years in hos Harriet

[@buddhaparadox]

Where can I find this photo?

[@chucknchar]

What a classy gentleman is Jack Dempsey

[@rayjr62]

Always was...until the day he died. Both him and Gene Tunney were the consummate gentlemen.

[@ptorres9420]

If you have nothing but good to say. Then why say anything at all. What a great two sentences, that for one eliminates drama that is so prevalent in society today, it seems normal. Jack Demsey is a class act that spoke with his fist and heart.

[@jamesordwayultralightpilot]

You can really see where Tyson got his inspiration from. Today Tyson shows a lot of class and you can't wonder where it comes from having idolized Dempsey from day 1.

[@docsmithdc]

Agreed

[@johnre1514]

@@ptorres9420 alot of todays athletes should take that advice.

[@bogdonbogdonovic5381]

God this is the first time I’ve seen a old man Dempsey interview and I am just really impressed that this man could speak so well! Especially with how they fought back then.

[@jonathanhanser5914]

Dempsey never took a beating...didn’t really fight after long count fight of 27

[@leftie75]

There is a stigma fighters are dumb. I'm not a huge fan of fighting but every heavyweight champion I've heard speak is intelligent.

[@JRobbySh]

Dempsey did not fight after his time. No fool he. Same with Marciano. Demsey and Marciano were at bottom, two street brawlers. Marciano, was an exceptional footballer and Baseball. Took up boxing in the army

[@nicholasroberts7891]

Its because they didnt destroy their minds with steroids

[@ltyler01]

I always liked Dempsey. Dude was a beast. Great and exciting champion.

[@lancesteel1475]

I am glad the ads are still in it.

[@DHILRAJ]

I can't believe I've never seen this. This is pure gold. This is rare and unique treasure. I'm glad I can hear these greats speak so openly. So different to our boxers of today. These guys have class, etiquette and finesse. What a pleasure to watch.

[@pilsnrimgaard2507]

Rocky for some reason reminds so much of Lou Costello of Abbot and Costello fame.

[@mbaddah]

lol bingo you hit the nail on the head

[@mdmcdd1117]

+Pils Nrimgaard Dempsey should have slapped him and said "Who is on first!" lmao!

[@robertguthrie1943]

Yes, I thought I was the only one who noted the similarities of Marciano and Costello. For years I thought that. I heard that Costello fought in a boxing match or two prior to his famed comedy career.

[@KF-wc4uw]

They are both Italian

[@cartert2]

I thought the same thing...lol

[@johnquest8115]

Rocky Marciano- Undefeated Heavyweight Champion of All Time ! He died Undefeated ! Still holding the belt !

[@tubewatcher38]

He had to give up the belt when he retired.

[@johnquest8115]

Thats true but he did not Lose it.

[@tubewatcher38]

***** He fought & defeated all the top heavyweights of his era; & he didn't want to fight Louis either.

[@19SantaMariaValley13]

tubewatcher38 but he did he cried in the locker room apologizing to Louis after

[@tubewatcher38]

BestInTheWorld 92 Yes.

[@heathstjohn6775]

" Prince Albert tobacco " knocked-out more than any of them.

[@jimmyneptune9337]

HAHAHA YA FAHKIN RIGHT A'DID SULLY

[@sachinadhikari6606]

😆😆😆😄😄 brother in America is still cegerate ads bcz in our country it,s not happened

[@freddiereagan6705]

Hell yeah

[@leafyutube]

I don't think Howard Cosell was ever young.

[@TheRepublicOfTheRif]

haha

[@yjkhjghftf]

LOL. This is pre-toup.

[@MyVeryHappyDay]

He needs his rug badly.

[@shahzaman1037]

But was is the best interviever of his time

[@fsrsaa]

Agree! 😂 My dad met him on the golf course one time. He said he was an arrogant asshole. 😂🤣

[@wibbletthewobblet9558]

Love Jack Dempsey's street smarts from his upbringing. He knew something was up and knew he was better off saying nothing and not even seeing it.

[@thomashardcastle7231]

TV clips like this are like gold dust. Thanks for uploading.

[@JABARDELLI]

Liston was coming into Ali when an Ali short but sneak right hand caught him flush on the jaw. As Dempsey said, you can’t tell the impact of a punch until you are on the receiving end of it. Suffice it to say, however, the force of the Ali right hand, on impact with Liston’s jaw, lifted Liston’s advancing left foot off the canvas several inches. Down he went and confusion reigned thereafter. After Liston got up, Walcott allowed the fight to continue until Nat Fleischer intervened and told Walcott that Liston had been counted out. However, the count should not have been started until Ali retreated to a neutral corner, which he didn’t do, and Walcott should never been overruled especially by Nat Fleischer who had no capacity to render any decision as he only was the editor of Ring Magazine. The fight should have continued after Liston arose and punches were being exchanged until Fleischer’s unlawful intervention.

[@souldesire5932]

oh goodness..it's so clearly a dive and a thrown fight..there's an overwhelming amount of evidence..just how sonny was punching and things he was doing during the fight..both fights were fixed

[@souldesire5932]

@Vegan Higler It's super funny people think that punch just pummeled someone like Liston..That they can't see it was acting and set up..Liston literally looked like he was missing his punches on purpose, making them seem realistic to not accidentally knock Ali out..The acting when he got up on his knee and went back down was pretty funny..bad acting too, but he tried..It's incredible the Ali fans that really think he beat him fairly. Even the first fight some suspect wasn't honest, in addition to really serious injuries he had and tried to change the fight date..but they said he'd lose his title if so.

[@souldesire5932]

@Vegan Higler yeah that's the word..But I also heard his wife said something that wasn't true, she made it to seem that way about receiving a certain percentage from Ali's fights..This is why, which is totally strange, I think he was pushing Ali's fights on the microphone interview after the fight happened..Totally weird and makes sense..And when liston found out these proceeds weren't true, he threatened and got killed..someone was writing about it in detail, seems to fit in some ways, but I have no idea..All I know is that Ali converted to Islam the very year before and was their main spokesperson..of course they want him champ and will do anything needed to promote what they're pushing..

[@c.galindo9639]

Liston at that time didn’t want to become champion anymore as he was not given any positive recognition nor seen as a good man in the public eye. Mainly due to his past and mob ties. He obviously dug himself in a hole where he had to lose and he didn’t even care at that point. Once a man willing to take on the world to someone broken and down trodden to the point where things seemed hopeless for him. An obvious dive from someone as great as Liston ever was

[@viccolantonio1691]

@@souldesire5932 there was one fight liston had with Cleveland williams. Cleveland hit liston on.the nose with devastating power and Liston didnt flinched. Yes the Ali punched did hit Liston but it wasnt the same impact of clevelands punch. In the first fight Liston took a severe beating from Ali. My take on this is Liston didnt want to get another beating from Ali he just found a way out of the fight

[@riddleofgailrussell1663]

I have a old "The Ring "boxing magazine from 1965. Jersey Joe said " Phantom Punch Hell." I saw him hit Sonny with that short right hand on the chin. "Ali gets better each time you see him".He has speed in his hands and feet like a welterweight. He hits like a heavyweight. Puts his punches together better than any heavyweight champion I've ever seen." "The best heavyweight of them all". "Could beat Dempsey , Louis, Marciano with no trouble. Even me". "Ali is too big and punches too fast"!

[@elvicare35]

Awesome stuff!!!!!!!!

[@devilface97]

All joe had to do was count.

[@DW-nb2zc]

No one's saying it didn't land but for anyone to believe that punch was all that didn't even see it.That AND the count.Liston was fine enough.Early stoppage.Liston just didn't want to get beat up again,which he would have

[@speakreality1134]

the phantom punch has the power to fell down who have been hit on that angle. on an hd slowmo we can see the ripple on ali chest after the punch that signify power and that was amplified by liston missing going forward the most vulnerable state a boxer can be caught in. like what happened with pac marquez fight.

[@skeletorlikespotatoes7846]

Absolutely lies 😅

[@rickbailey189]

To see both of these BOXING LEGENDS in a sit down interview is pure gold. What an exclusive interview this is. Great stuff. 👍👍

[@tommytolo8025]

Jack and Rocky in their prime anyone? OH MY GOD!!!!!

[@valentinelove2654]

OMG! That would be WW3 and WW4 combined!

[@eddiesid1149]

Jack

[@Romamb]

In my heaven...I'll get to watch them at their prime fight that fight.

[@thatlonelygiraffeinc.6989]

@Carolina to the Caribbean ehh, gene tunny wasn't the fastest, but he dominated dempsey twice. Hard to say who'd preavail between marciano or dempsey. i will say this, both had an iron jaw, but dempsey was much more elusive, however rocky hit waaay harder. I'd say potentially, dempsey would cut rocky to ribbons and it would be a doctor stoppage

[@franklinkelly9722]

Dempsey. Based on his speed, reach and experience. Not to mention, his granite jaw and knockout power in both hands. I believe it would have ended in a decision for Dempsey; or stoppage due to Marciano's tendency to cut. But....it would have been a brawl for sure ! 👍

[@bonnerwf]

Rocky and Dempsey have some tough faces on them.

[@15r52]

@M this soccer weirdo again 🤦‍♂️

[@MonarchPoolPlaster]

@M there aren't even 240 countries on Earth

[@fvgc454ss]

@M lawn ferries

[@B.E.Long.63]

ROCKY WAS A REAL FIGHTER HONEST MAN, KNEW WHAT HE COULD DO AND WHAT HE COULDN'T...

[@jlmain5777]

Jack Dempsey was such a big star in his time (1920’s) that he had the first “million dollar” gate. Amazing fighter from the Golden Age of Sports.

[@vincentfisher1603]

This is one cool time capsule. All of these guys are now legends.

[@michaelbarlow6610]

Interesting that as smart and well-spoken as Howard Cosell was during his life, he used a non-word or non-term "knocker-outer" in reference to Muhammad Ali (or Cassius Clay as Ali was known back then) when he said that Ali was not known as a one-punch knockout fighter. The term Cosell should have used is, of course, "knockout fighter" in that Ali in his boxing career was never a one-punch knockout fighter.

[@finnmacmanus5723]

@@michaelbarlow6610 interesting that slang and non-formal speaking has always existed and wasn’t invented recently

[@SG-tv5jy]

Interesting how it seems that Jack from the way he replied in this interview may have known something about a fix. As a boxing legend, no doubt he had many inside contacts in the business who could provided this information. It's almost like he didn't watch it in protest knowing Liston would take the fall, but he couldn't come out and say anything for obvious health reasons.

[@diontatabor9849]

Bingo

[@Thor-Orion]

I love how Rocky and Jack (the actual fighters on the panel) are giving reasons why it could potentially be a legitimate finish, even though they both personally feel like it wasn’t.

[@jamestodd1104]

Dempsey and Marciano are the two hardest men to ever lace up the gloves.

[@paganmaestro]

"He was moving side to side with those funny moves that he makes..." Marciano had a hard time dealing with Ali.

[@phaultypmm]

the unseen punch is the one that gets you.

[@mdmcdd1117]

+Phaulty Very true!

[@solidcake3401]

lol internet boxing coach

[@gheffz]

Ha! Good point!

[@TheBatugan77]

@@meldedara1553 If it looks like bullshit... Smells like bullshit... Acts like bullshit... It's bullshit.

[@marymartin165]

Exactly. Also: it was the first round. Liston was not warmed up yet.

[@MrEdium]

I am Amazed at the fact that on this panel are 2 of the most Aggressive Fighters in The History of Boxing. Two Greats : Jack Dempsey & Rocky Marciano !!! Wow...

[@Igbon5]

Liston's head was moving up and left when the punch landed, doubling the force. It wasn't ridden or slipped. Ali showed over and over just how good he was at effective punches while moving backward or sideways or both. Most of the shots against Foreman were from going back or leaning back. No one else could do this.

[@c.galindo9639]

Quit riding on him. It was a dive nothing special just what it was. Liston had a lot of mob ties depending on how he performed in the ring

[@chuckweiny1546]

Ali said it best. Ali, did Liston take a dive? "They all take a dive to a certain extent." I agree, to a point, yes. I've seen fighters go down from being hurt, I've seen fighters take a knee. I've seen fighters who could've gotten up, but they had enough. I'm not, nor will I ever take a piss on a man who was in a professional ring, but I can see where Ali was coming from. Marciano was very contrdictary against Ali when he defended his own knockdown by Moore. A short punch he fell into. Look at the punch in slow motion. You know who absolutely idolized and was mesmorized by Ali? Bruce Lee. He, as a 130 pound man generated unreal power from a few inches away. Most of the so called critics don't even know where the power of a punch begins at. It begins where the feet touch the ground. Try standing on ice and throw a hard left hook, your momentum will throw you.

[@worstcaseofcrabsever5510]

YES! That's why Iron Mike's legs are so huge!

[@speed1070]

Well said.

[@EwFatppl]

@@worstcaseofcrabsever5510 whys deontay wilder punch powerful? why joe louis hit so hard why joe walcot hit hard?

[@EwFatppl]

theres legs is not big and giant

[@utkarsh2746]

@@EwFatppl Weight transfer. Wilders best punches are the ones he skips into, up close or standing and trading in the pocket his punches don't have any of the effect that a George Foreman or Mike Tyson had.

[@janski1982]

You can tell how good these legends were, just hear them speak. You can´t hear their speech slurr at all.

[@franklinkelly9722]

I believe Dempsey, Louis and Marciano, were the greatest prizefighters of all time. And I believe Dempsey in his prime was the absolute best of the three. 👍

[@getsmart3701]

Rocky was such a gentleman and great champion. I always have time and respect for his opinion.

[@getredytagetredy]

Dempsey was a class act.

[@mikebudzinski3879]

And he was the best ever, speed ,power stamina, great chin, Rocky ,Jack Johnson Joe Louis and Ali all would have been stopped by Dempsey

[@bucketmouth7667]

+mike BUDZINSKI Really? How do you figure that? He had more losses than Marciano and Louis put together. I loved him, but he had a lot of draws, as well.

[@mistermex187]

Bucketmouth Marciano had zero losses nice try lol

[@bucketmouth7667]

+Jorge G Why are you directing your comment to me? Can you read?

[@mdmcdd1117]

mike BUDZINSKI pass what you're smoking.

[@tyronemcelhennon8594]

If I could go back in time for one occasion, this studio would be under consideration. Dempsey - Marciano - Cosell. The stories... Magic

[@carlreed6186]

I was at Fort Bragg when the USA team boxed against Ireland in an exhibition and Howard Cosell was the broadcaster. I had a seat just a few rows behind him.

[@thesunnysheepguy]

I miss Howard Cosell. One of the very best.

[@carlreed6186]

They took a poll Howard won both the most loved and the most hated broadcaster. You either loved him of hated him.

[@somewhere6]

I like Dempsey's demeanor in this clip. He had seen so much over the years and had been involved in so much that he could smell when something was not on the up-and-up. At the same time, he was not about to grandstand on it. He just made it clear what he believed and left it at that. There was no point in making too big a deal of it as he had no dog in that fight or that controversy.

[@jerrycooney4551]

Thank you, Prince Albert, for sponsoring logrolling. This is the sport and family-fun activity 5 or 6 of us still want to see.

[@WacoBurning]

Whether or not the match was fixed, all I can say is the proof is in the Puffing! What a great commercial...

[@WacoBurning]

oops pudding!

[@nitemoovs]

I was certain Rocky was going to ask..."Who's on second?"

[@kennethdodd5924]

The Brockton Blockbuster and the Manassa Mauler. Nothing phantom about their punches.

[@elvicare35]

Talk about "phantom", I'm not sure of Dempsey's opponent's, but Marciano's???

[@tubewatcher38]

@@elvicare35 He beat the best fighters of that time.

[@fitzgeraldanthony9333]

@@elvicare35 His opponents were mediocre. Take the time to carefully go over their records and see who they fought and who they lost to. The ages of his most notable opponents were on average past 36 years of age with three of them having fought almost a decade before they faced Marciano. Two of them started out at middleweight and later became legendary light heavyweight champions while the other was an aging journeyman who was 37 years of age with over 70 fights on his ledger. Neither of these men weighed 212 pounds. They were small men who weighed in excess of 188-195 at best. Im referring to Archie Moore, Ezzard Charles and Jersey Joe Walcott. All three had significant mileage on them by the time They fought Marciano and yet he STILL had considerable difficulty with them even in their advanced years. As for Dempsey he's vastly overrated. Take a look at his opponents when he became champion and then look at how he was thoroughly outboxed by a superior ring technician in Gene Tunney not once but twice. Finally and most importantly Dempsey avoided black fighters like the plague. He went out of his way to avoid them. Louis, Ali, Holmes, Lennox Lewis, The Klitschko Brothers fought everyone, drawing no color line because they were not afraid to take on the best. Dempsey would not. After Jack Johnson a large portion of bigoted white America did not want to see a black fighter as champion since it challenged their false superiority image. Dempsey gladly obliged and ducked every single capable black contender in order to not get exposed before and after he became champion.

[@yentamoon1808]

@@fitzgeraldanthony9333 so the wizard jersey joe Walcott, the same one who gave joe louis a boxing lesson 2 SEPERATE TIMES is a bum? He floored louis twice in the first fight and was thoroughly robbed so hard louis tried to leave and only lost the second cuz joe scored a knockout in the 11th. Mind you this is the same Walcott who beat the much younger ezzard charles. Speaking of which, What about the sweet scientist ezzard charles? They were only 3 YEARS APART IT WAS A FAIR FIGHT AND MARCIANO BEAT HIM TWICE, what about harry kid mathews who racked up 90 yes 90 WINS, SO HES A BUM TOO?! what about don cockell, GUESS HES A BUM TOO HUH? What about archie fucking moore, the old mongoose and knockout king, SO HES MEDIOCRE?! You say none of these people ever passed 212 YET MARCIANO WAS OUT WEIGHED BY LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT ARCHIE MOORE! God you casuals know nothing

[@karlhughes1224]

This is just people speculating.. read Sonny Liston's version of this at the tribunal..its in Ferdie Pacheco's book.. ..he said he got knocked down by a fast punch but was not hurt..he did not get to his feet because the referee Joe Walcott lost control and had not sent Ali to a neutral corner and picked up the count as he should have done...Ali was still dancing around.. Liston said he was afraid Ali would hit him as he was getting up because Liston thought Ali was crazy..so Liston stayed down... The referee Jersey Joe Walcott was not a pro referee and was out of his depth.. Technically, Ali could have been disqualified for not going to a neutral corner after the knock down and Liston could have regained the title while lying on the canvas..that's how bizarre this incident was. From then on professional referees were appointed not ex world champions..

[@dennbb]

I don't think Nat Fleischer had any business interfering. Liston was down longer than 10 seconds but then so was Gene Tunney. No count was started Walcott was the ref and it was his call. Liston beat the count. I think he was going to get beaten by Ali anyway.

[@Nickcat5]

dennbb You're right about Fleischer; With all due respect to being the editor of Ring Magazine, He was an official nothing for this fight. Walcott shouldn't have listened to him.

[@Nuvendil]

dennbb Yeah, under the rules of this official fight the count could be suspended completely until Ali went to the corner, allowing Liston to lay on the canvas all he liked. Still, that's what you call some good mind games to have an ex-con scared of you :P

[@nonyobussiness3440]

It’s rumored Ali walked outside Sunny’s window at night talking to himself shadow Boxing saying Liston ain’t shit. Liston thought Ali was actually insane.

[@procioneintubato]

eduar ed this guy, as you call him, is sonny liston himself and that’s what he’s declared at the time. I’d take his word over a nobody’s on KZbin

[@LS-ki9ft]

Dempsey vs Ali (Clay) or Dempsey vs Marciano, Marciano vs Ali (Clay). Wow, that would have been fun to watch!

[@rickiovine2170]

What a panel. Dempsey and Marciano on the stage together being interviewed by Cosell. I am not sure why Dempsey was there because he clearly was not going to offer an opinion either way, but it provided a historic gathering, nonetheless.

[@rock4086]

"When he (Liston) got up he certainly wasn't unconscious", well d'uh!

[@jayceh]

With all due respect, no one had ever seen the likes of Mohammed Ali, and no one since. The way he shifted his weight around so quickly, the way he swung and planted his backfoot, dropping the weight to the front all while Liston was diving his head into Ali's glove. It was a hard shot.

[@colecampbell1906]

nah, that was a thrown fight clear as day. Not saying Ali couldn't have beaten him or he even knew about it, but there's no way Liston seriously went down from that shot.

[@davidmccann9811]

That was a thrown fight. No disrespect to Ali, but Liston was acting.....badly.

[@rich8381]

Dude the entire world knows Liston threw the fight for betting and debt purposes. Ali was standing over top of him and yelling for him to get up because he knew it to. As you heard Dempsey say, he knew going into the fight something was up.

[@RudyT2DU]

jesus! People were saying even then that it was "the end of boxing". Thats crazy for that time

[@jeffwarren6906]

Geez , I hope film historians who manage archives never let anything happen to this piece of film . Two absolute legends on stage together , from two different eras . Thanks Christofides , I just saw two of the biggest names in boxing history in the same interview , and like him or not , Howard Cosell was a legend announcer in his own time .

[@rjt4020]

Love seeing these old clips of the greats.

[@tubewatcher38]

Dempsey & Marciano - total class.

[@maryflickinger2458]

Cha cha

[@maryflickinger2458]

Cancel

[@reg5381]

muhammed ali didn't think the ko was real.ali was yelling to liston "get up".

[@johndowns3839]

Thats true. And in the corner he can be seen yelling "He laid down!" I think the Honorable Elijah Muhammad's minions put the fear of God in Sonny.

[@idurisu930]

I think Sonny really wanted to get out of there and was really tired. Especially because of the said hot lights.

[@HERES_JAWNiE]

@@johndowns3839 this is dumb. Liston didn't see the punch and got KO'd. Ali knocked out a couple other people with the same right hand moving backwards

[@devilface97]

@@HERES_JAWNiE liston was clearly not ko'd. If ali wanted him up he should have danced into a neutral corner. The only conspiracy is why jersey joe was ref in such an important fight.

[@HERES_JAWNiE]

@@devilface97 "obviously not". Dude stop. He got clipped coming in and didn't see it.

[@Riskmangler]

Thumbs up if you came here for the Prince Albert commercial.

[@Room-uc5se]

Riskmangler absolutely legend

[@hedgehog1965uk]

And who was disappointed that it wasn't a cock ring?

[@saeedrahi]

Riskmangler I don’t know if it’s still available. I saved the video to find out. 🤔

[@loumencken9644]

This is a historically important video. Because it shows Howard Cosell without his toupee.

[@zorgath420]

It's always The punch you don't see coming that does the most damage

[@joelweisberg]

I’m still grieving the untimely death in a plane crash of my childhood hero, Rocky Marciano.

[@JRobbySh]

Like Audie Murphy and at about the same age. Murphy a truly lethal guy. Despite his small size he had lightning reflexes

[@turnupthesun81]

Imagine telling someone in 2021 “I’m gonna smoke some Prince Albert.”

[@angrygrizzly7125]

Dempsey And Marciano-Two Of The Top 5 Ever!😁👍

[@Bronco_Billy_Jack_Hills]

Rocky Marciano has a cult like following from delusional fanatics similar to Jim Cushman, Stout Krout, Scott Williams, Angry Grizzly and Mike Whitney etc. They actually think Rocky's some kinda Indestructible Hulk like character. Jim describes Rocky as if he were Hercules himself and killed all 49 of his opponents in the ring.

[@waltermorris3593]

Alli was asked to compare Mariano to Frazier and Alli stated Marciano hit harder

[@philarevolutionarywarriorp8295]

Walter Morris how would he know?

[@rhysoneill7399]

@@philarevolutionarywarriorp8295 didn't Marciano and Ali get together for the computer fight? I watched an Ali interview where he said even though rocky pulled his punches they still hurt or something to that extent.

[@philarevolutionarywarriorp8295]

rhys oneill- possibly. I wasnt aware of that. I think his hatred for Fraizer had something to do with his comment either way though. I personally think Dempsey and Tyson probably hit harder than both of them anyway

[@matepavic6929]

@@philarevolutionarywarriorp8295 Dude, Ali never hated Frazier.

[@philarevolutionarywarriorp8295]

@@matepavic6929 Says who some Ali groupie? I'm from philly. Know the Fraizers. Ali treated him with such disrespect it was disgusting. He definitely hated Joe for a period of years. Fact

[@kyletitterton]

The Prince Albert log rolling advert was wonderful.

[@adamhicks304]

" a knocker-outer"

[@dammionpeaks2209]

Lol...Old school term.

[@IrishMick115]

Marciano vs Dempsey, now that would be a hell of a fight

[@lordhumongous4272]

they are both dead

[@darkgable85]

@@lordhumongous4272 no shit

[@jayyoudeeee9096]

Boxing is filled with a lot of “what if” questions haha

[@bobbywise2313]

Both in their prime it would have been. Most people seem to favor Rocky but I would pick Dempsey myself. He was faster on his feet and I think actually hit harder.

[@douglaslett7504]

Some times fighters will surprise you George foreman claims one of the hardest punchers he fought was Gerry Cooney. Very surprising considering who he fought !

[@kelvinkloud]

dempsey had quite a presence, even at his age here. old school, non bs. Isnt this around the time period he beat up a thug in the streets who was trying to mug him? ....You can hear that clipped to the point cadence in his voice that came out of the still wild west mining camp era he rose out of. true amer legend.

[@rodneythomas1001]

And he still haven't fought anybody. Oh yes, he fought. Grandpaw when he he was Old and over the hill!!! Still the Great Pretender!

[@rickrick5041]

@@j.l.4054 Dempsey fought 2 muggers at once in his 70's

[@j.l.4054]

@@rickrick5041 yep I'm aware - one of my favorite stories about any sports figure I bring it up all the time. I think according to his book he was 75 at the time and 2 young thugs tried to rob him while he was getting in or out of a cab.

[@rickrick5041]

@@j.l.4054 2 left hooks and they were on the sidewalk!

[@JRobbySh]

Can you imagine being a miner who dared challenge this young kid, and then.....

[@GJSTK50]

Rocky Marciano looks and speaks like Robert De Niro... When I see Rocky here in this interview, I remember watching Robert De Niro in Raging Bull - with all his make-up... Incredible similarities...

[@owenhunt]

Dinaric-Italian hybrids are masculine as heck. If you've ever seen Bobby De Niro's Dad, then you know what a scary man looks like. In fact, when you compare Ali to the other greatest of all time; Tyson, Maricano, Lewis, Klitschko, he inures the pretty boy as result.

[@metamorphosis67]

He looked like Jack La Motta, not Marciano, watch some old La Motta videos. La Motta fits the East Coast Italian stereotype better than Marciano. And the East-Coast, working-class Italian stereotype is not that hard to portray, especially by a guy who's half Italian himself. Joe Pesci did an even better job than De Niro in that film and he didn't have to gain 50 pounds and lose it in the process.

[@owenhunt]

metamorphosis67 Who cares? His Dad could have played a Don on the basis of those terrifying jawbones alone!

[@michaelunderwood6319]

+metamorphosis67 DeNiro's mother was Jewish.

[@GenosGlory]

owenhunt De Niro isn't really Italian though. He is Albanian Arberesh. They left Albania to Italy after Ottoman Empire occupied Albania. De Vito is too. Called Itaians by Nationality but not really by blood.

[@joeblows4694]

' the proof is in the puffing '😂 classic. Marciano looks like Fred flinstone in that toupe

[@JohnDoe-xx8pe]

Golden historic footage. thanks for sharing this

[@inhibited44]

Wow. what an indictment about the actual fight according to Dempsey.

[@domamania]

@ Nick Edwards, Marciano was far from raciest. He gave so much money to the hospitals to take care of Joe Louis the brown bomber and him and ali were talking about how to destroy the idea of being raciest in America. Marciano had no problem with Ali's color, he just had a problem with ali the person not the color....

[@qaisjan123]

he called him cassius clay where his name was Muhammad Ali. typical racist. is it OK for me to call u a dog rather than ur name?. of-course not.

[@LJMJR1]

enlighten09 Rocky an Ali....sat on the floor in a hotel room in Florida during the filming of their computer fight match up and guess what they were discussing.......how the two of them together in a joint venture could possibly do something to help with race relations......perhaps a series of town hall meetings......they were throwing around ideas......they became great friends unfortunately "The Rock" would pass shortly thereafter so we're only left with the "what ifs".....what coulda been......I'd say that they woulda made a pretty good one.....two punch.......

[@domamania]

Louis J. Marciano hello Mr Marciano, Me and my wife when we went to our honey moon, we visited Brockton Mass and we went to your old family home right at the corner of James Edgar Play ground where your Brothers plaque was put and the entrance of the park also we went to see Charlie Tartaglia in his caffee / restaurant and me my wife and him talked for hours about your brother and you whole family. Your brother is the greatest off all times. Plus where your Dad God Bless his soul was from Abruzzi where my dad comes from not even 2 hours from that same location back in Italia. I thank you , Peter and the rest of the family to keep Rocco aka Rocky's legacy alive..

[@louisj.marciano2562]

enlighten09 Although not a prototypical, classic boxing body, let me assure you that along with heart and determination my uncles body was an asset, not in the classic sense however his strong legs were the foundation of his power, the was he was able to bob and weave from a couch making himself a seemingly small target so that his opponents were punching down at him, he turned what is usually a negative having a short reach into a positive because of his unusual ability to derive leverage and his short arms were an asset with regards to in fighting, he could generate great power from punches that traveled little more than inches.....like a sports car that can go 0-60 in mere seconds......yeah Mike his body was the genesis for his success. His body never failed him.....it supported his stamina, it was the chin that never failed him.....I share the genes and know the benefits.......don't under estimate the chassis that went along with the heart and strong mental composition......it was the complete package that made him so difficult to reckon with.

[@domamania]

No it's Ali the one who was raciest. He purposely went to Islam to give him protection from the war draft give him victories and Ali was the guy who was always like a toungue on a sore tooth going back on the Soave issue over and over again just to get him elf attention

[@JoeMama-vj8es]

Dempsey and Marciano in the same room! Awesome!

[@VimaKsper6286]

I dont think the punch was hard, i think it was accurate, if you take a really fast punch on the chin, the brain shakes and theres no pain and no force, but your legs stop working. I do think that it was an accurate counter punch.

[@olive6405]

I'd love to have asked Dempsey if he'd wished that Walcott had refered his second bout with Tunney.

[@crazyboysince1998]

That smoking advert was wild hahaha

[@DarkBlitz]

Both great gentlemen and outstanding boxers who put up outstanding battles and show a great deal of respect and kindness in and outside the ring. If only Jack Dempsey went back to the neutral corner in time when he fought Gene Tunney in ‘The Long Count’. This brings a lot of imagination as to what further amazing boxing matches Jack would have showcased as well as the brutal, hard chin, smart boxer, Rocky Marciano. If only Rocky had not have been killed in those sad and honestly tragic circumstances... it would have been great to see these two boxers in the ring again in their primes. I think there is one thing we can all agree on though; They both would’ve demolished everyone in their paths and to even dream of both Jack and Rocky in a bout together, brings a lot of tension to my mind. Overall, two great gentlemen with I would’ve only loved to have met in person.

[@garthvader8868]

The punches you don't see are the ones that knock you out. Ali threw that right cross many times in his career && it has proven to be an effective technique to his style. He'd lean back with his arms down and slip a right cross underneath the opponent's left jab as it retracted. He called it the anchor punch.

[@goodbyspam]

Rocky posited that the punch to the chin could 'confuse' Liston and it occurs to me that even if Ali's punch had a short throw there would have been the advantage provided by leverage, with Liston's spinal cord being the fulcrum. (Like when you can jack up a car with a jack you apply force to point furthest from the fulcrum). This made it 'easy' for the minimal force to disrupt Liston's neurosystem to the point that he was 'confused' and went down. Furthermore, it would have so much easier to stage this (if that was the intent ) with one convincing punch rather than this ambiguous punch. I would be interested to know if it mainly those who have never boxed and never felt a head blow who think this was rigged.

[@randy5897]

Post like these are why I love youtube , thanks for posting

[@carolinecorman9788]

Man do I miss Howard Cosell.

[@dougtaylor2803]

+Caroline Corman "Muhammad Ali..the pugnacious, prognosticator of pugilism, par excellence."

[@ikediamond]

Rest in piss

[@smoothALOE]

When you watch a video like this, you realize that sports analysis has been a serious profession for so much longer than we sometimes realize. Excellent stuff!… wow, the commercial spots, too!!!

[@kaptainkush4351]

I love how they had stand-up ashtrays in the studio! 🤣🤣

[@jerrylanglois7892]

Liston took a dive. He knew he was completely outclassed and took the money and ran.

[@bigdennis3845]

I feel thats what happen. Sunny was Completely out classed and he had no thirst to go any further in yhis fight..

[@matepavic6929]

Proof?

[@jerrylanglois7892]

@@matepavic6929 It can't be proved either way... just a matter of speculation.

[@matepavic6929]

@@jerrylanglois7892 Sure, but look at it this way - Liston was injured in both fights, a lot older than Ali, who was fastest heavyweight ever. And who got luck on his side.

[@jerrylanglois7892]

@@matepavic6929 Prove it.

[@engine2truck6]

Jack Dempsey! smartest and classiest man on the panel!

[@QuantumGamingUploads]

He really was pure class and logic

[@davidbehman4836]

I’m glad you left the ad in.

[@magoo9767]

As Rocky grew older he looked more and more like actor William Bendix.

[@freddiereagan6705]

True

[@walterpalmer2749]

Liston took the count and made an easy payday. Ali never "one punched" anyone is an astute observation.

[@navysealsliedtheyneverburi430]

+10

[@Philotheist777]

Sure

[@newman7151]

i believe he fell because of the punch, but didnt want to stand up again.

[@ronbonora7872]

@@newman7151 it was a mafia fix!

[@Jimmy_Widders_Hunt]

@@ronbonora7872 and Liston collected?

[@hk-4738]

Thanks to this video, I am now putting away my boxing gloves for good and instead investing all my time and effort into becoming the greatest log-rolling champion the world has ever seen!

[@benkeel2966]

Marciano died in a plane crash shortly after this.