Jack Ma on how Amazon and Alibaba differ | CNBC International

Executive Chairman of the Alibaba Group Jack Ma discusses his business model with Andrew Ross Sorkin at Davos.
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[@ejoshcoron]

Very impressed with his English, very good accent for native Chinese

[@ayanbarman]

ejoshcoron he was English professor

[@waNErBOY]

no he wasnt

[@sandyblaze007]

Yeah but who told you english language accent matters?

[@ayanbarman]

When did i say anything about English accent ?

[@user-vz7ns1dn5g]

Jack ma teach himself English

[@LaCajunWash]

What I took from this interview: Amazon is putting the small mom n pops stores out of business like Walmart ... and Alibaba is helping them...

[@missionpupa]

Chris yup. Jack has always been a public servant.

[@xXJeReMiAhXx99]

wrong

[@amitayalama5745]

Alibaba is helping middlemen which results in more prices on items for consumers whereas Amazon is killing them.

[@Leto2ndAtreides]

Both ecosystems create tons of jobs, but likely drive inefficient producers out of business due to superior competition. When you have powerful tools like these platforms, there is work that needed to be done, that is being done by them, and that makes it easier for you to add value in other areas. But you can't just continue on as before. You're not going to do the things that a giant does well, very well yourself. Amazon makes it easier for sellers to not have to think about many problems, and ultimately Alibaba does the same, but with a more decentralized model in all areas. Whereas, if Amazon sees a large inconvenience for customers, it tries to put small teams on solving the problems and making progress, itself. I'm sure Alibaba has found other ways to encourage progress in those areas - and there are pros and cons, to both approaches.

[@Leto2ndAtreides]

@@amitayalama5745 Alibaba is B2B. Nevertheless, competition is strong in the ecosystem.

[@makoto_0]

This guy proves collaboration among people can compete the big player.

[@brightliu681]

You are right

[@Leto2ndAtreides]

They're not competing with Amazon. They're not even in the same business. And it's more that "with the help of big players, many smaller players can have more success" Which is also true of Amazon.

[@ziggyplay]

sure, the only problem is considering 600million packages in 3 days is something to be proud of, it is a shame now a days with the environment and social situation.

[@milankhand7132]

He is Jack Ma , not an average "This guy"

[@minzhang8036]

Dendy Priambodo so wrong. Alibaba can only succeed based on a market like china - over population, cheap labor, totalitarian government, and obedient people.

[@brijeshmandavi6795]

This guy is super focused

[@ivanaraujo6425]

Brijesh Mandavi yeah you can tell

[@proman5975]

It is the only way to be sucessful

[@ufo717212]

Since the Moment Mr. Ma opened his mouth, wisdom had burst into the air and surrounded the audience like butterflies.

[@russram210]

😍😍😍

[@udokanzelu577]

very true

[@luckyahad]

See his debate with musk

[@boujarmouneismail]

He is a great person no one can deny it

[@willhoward2724]

You have to be joking. This guy is an idiot. Watch his interview with Elon Musk

[@billygoodman2777]

He sounds a lot more in his element here than his interview with Musk.

[@farhann270]

fuq u

[@billygoodman2777]

@@farhann270 Qump. Is what I say to you sir.

[@AstolfoBestWaifu1]

That's because he is a genius in his own way. After the talk with musk I watched a lot of videos. He talks very well, and his train of though is usually very interesting. His attitude towards life is also quite amusing. All in all one can see why he became as successful. The problem is, he has no idea about A.I. or technology in general. So if he has to talk about it, obviously he will fail. Perhaps the biggest mistake, was that he was very confident in speaking about something he didn't know much about.

[@happybear3706]

I was like if I was a doctor and someone was a carpenter and we had a meeting, I can make them look like idiots too. That interview was funny but ma and musk were just having fun and plus ma admitted he wasn’t an expert. However, unlike the retards that talked shit about ma I say hey, where is your billion dollar business.

[@nanoguy-ob2tb]

@Herry Gerry Elon Musk and Jack both have great leadership. But Alibaba’s success or Neuralink cannot be 100% credited by the ceos. Credit the employees who actually work

[@SportZFan4L1fe]

Alibaba = EVERYONE SUCCEEDS TOGETHER. Amazon = MONOPOLY

[@studritaf207]

Amazon= real business Alibaba= Stealing business

[@studritaf207]

Alibaba just copy Ebay ideal instead they sold fake products. Alibaba is just like most of China business. Never invent or create anything, they try to steal or copy from other.

[@saraaaaa9803]

Forget it why hate when you clearly havent done anything as amazing as both.

[@alexlee2276]

Jack Ma is not a genius, nor a crook, but a genius crook. First, everyone must understand that in China there is no real private enterprise which can reach Fortune 500 without Chinese Communist Government (CCG)’s control behind it. What worse is that the control is often not exercised by government but by top level corrupted government officials and their family members. There is no secret that several most powerful CCG officials and their family members are the top shadow shareholders of Alibaba. Second, those top level government officials have used Alibaba to laundry hundreds of billions embezzled monies out of China, mostly through now CCG controlled Hong Kong and into Western countries, particularly the U.S. Third, Alibaba has no new technology nor innovation but just a cheap copy of Ebay and Amazon. CCG has not only used Alibaba to stop foreign businesses such as Ebay and Amazon entering into Chinese market, but also given Alibaba monopoly in Chinese market, upon which Ma/Alibaba’s successful myth is really about. For example, receiving deposits and paying interest are the financial and banking industries monopolied by the government, and many individuals and entrepreneurs have been imprisoned or even punished with death penalty because of raising capitals among friends and local people. Ma/Alibaba is the only non-state-run and non-banking business capable of receiving deposits and paying interest in China. Ma gave numerous speeches all over the world about how he became one of the richest persons in the world and how to become successful and so on, but none of what he said was true. Ma simply is the smiling face of the most evil dictatorship regime in human history, the CCG, which imprisoned Liu Xiaobo, the Chinese Nobel Peace Prize laureate till his death on July 13, 2017 - something that even Adolf Hitler was not dare to do. Mostly importantly, in return for CCG’s favor, Ma has shamelessly promoted for CCG the dictatorship ideology and publicly supported CCG’s Tiananmen Square massacre in 1989 using tanks and machine guns against its own peaceful people! Ma is a new phenomena challenging the conscience of every one of us in this fast-changing world - do we still respect universal human values as our first priority, or money is everything and we should do whatsoever we can to get money, power, and fame, like Jack Ma?

[@Leto2ndAtreides]

No, Amazon is also mainly a marketplace for countless producers to sell their products. The main difference is that Alibaba is mainly B2B, and sells more wholesale stuff, and Amazon is mainly direct to consumer. So Amazon puts more direct effort into improving experience for the consumer, itself.

[@user-wu8cd6mz8c]

Alibaba like youtube amazone like netflix sometimes you need both

[@fritzpierre6322]

😀😀😀

[@loveormoney786]

But KZbin has much lower leverage as the they leverage content provided not bought. Great analogy but Netflix is even still a sharer as well as they pay others for content. Problem with Amazon will be same as Netflix when business realize they aren’t making the profit as they should. Much like Disney+/Hulu/Peacock/HBO Max strong companies will have their own digital strategies. You can’t compete with Amazon by continuing to sell on their site because they will kill you and compete with you but rather to take away your product entirely and have your own digital strategy!

[@aguerogonzalo6476]

What I really felt and learned from his words is that Amazon improved delivery time by themselves through their own technology, while Alibaba empowered smaller companies to improve themselves in terms of services to a similar functionality to those of Amazon. This gave me an impression that Amazon is someone who does the job all alone, and Alibaba as someone who is a leader who knows how to guide, and help others in order to achieve a goal.

[@chandumudunuru]

That's precisely the difference between Asian and western mindset.

[@ranojap5010]

from thousands years back western world want to achieve or expand their influences by conquer or colonized the country but china want to gains their influences by collaboration with other countries like right with africa they build infrastructures, not by getting war to control them...so on & so forth

[@NurlailahManoga]

True

[@Daswars777]

Says a lot about the US, doesnt it. Control and kill in everything they do!

[@axa3687]

@@ranojap5010 It's the same thing called "neo-colonialism". USA does the same thing with open trading, while pointing a gun at everyone's head to trade. China points a gun at uyghurs, Taiwan, HK, India, and Africa.

[@wasimshaikh1665]

You see the difference between Western business model and Chinese business model. Amazon has put smaller traders out of businesses on other hand Alibaba has created opportunities for smaller traders, even in remote parts of India.

[@sourendranarayanroy5239]

Etwebble West builds castles in the air

[@swaathikakarla5123]

@Etwebble You guys actually destroyed the world. Biggest polluters, looters and wasters of our time.

[@meinpizza8144]

Swaathi K polluter you mean china?

[@ajdaniel8128]

You Americans don't even have a proper Public Transport System or Airport or anything

[@saraaaaa9803]

@@swaathikakarla5123 have you done anything for the world ? Woah you're mouth is full with pollution

[@harishganesan3418]

Very rare to see people who want others to succeed with them hats off jack ma one day I wish I would meet you in person ....

[@steamsteam6607]

It's not rare where do you live?

[@Leto2ndAtreides]

Almost all real business is offering a better experience or more value to others. Some people just don't like others being more successful than them and find ways to think badly about them. Nevertheless, you are always part of an ecosystem, and you have to add - usually make others successful. An average store even, creates a channel for creating success for all the people who build products. You're never alone.

[@jojon44444]

@@steamsteam6607 yes it definitely rare

[@jaldeepupadhyay4646]

Jeff is bussinessman while jack ma is entrepreneur! 🔥

[@sachchidanand563]

🤔🤔

[@ltpa152]

That is a very good philosophy with good argument. I love the idea of empowering the people who sell the products instead of owning the product like Amazon. Alibaba is a win win for both party.

[@Leto2ndAtreides]

Amazon is mostly other people selling products. Amazon just simplifies a lot of it. You send your products to Amazon's warehouses, and then Amazon takes care of offering 2 day shipping (or less) as possible. It's just that Amazon tries to improve more parts of the experience directly. Amazon also takes more responsibility when someone has a bad experience. Like, one time, I had $400 worth of products stolen because the delivery guy left it in front of the door. And the Amazon rep I called (not for a refund, just to try to get the last item in that batch sent to another location that might be safer), decided to refund the entire $400. Now that might not always happen, but in comparison, that's not something Alibaba would likely do. They offer other approaches for being sure of a better experience, of course.

[@libanovic1755]

If you look at chinas deals with other countries its always a win win situation something the americans didnt learn from

[@ziggyplay]

being proud of 600 million packages in 3 days is a good philosophy?? It only becomes good when comparing with Bezos, who has a horrible philosophy.

[@gam2752]

Called communism

[@farhanrahman27]

Such a humble, dedicated and composed guy. Big Salute to you Sir Jack Ma. Proud to be an Asian

[@johnwick860]

Jack Ma is not only a genius, he is a great leader who encourages small business grow

[@noufalaboobaker517]

I never thought of Alibaba and Jack ma with so much respect as I do now.. a true leader with a sense of what the common man goes through in life..

[@youtubeshadowbannedme]

@Dark of the knight let's see you debate Elon Musk...oh wait

[@gdx3phos434]

Dark of the knight I think you should give Jack Ma the respect that he deserves because he’s proving that anyone, even dumb people can become rich and influential. In other words, you should be grateful that he proves that even someone like you can probably become a rich business owner.

[@jfc8681]

*Alibaba giving power to the people , Amazon: Taking power from the people*

[@superstar4336]

J FC so true

[@ds15ful]

Western vs Eastern mindset

[@badarulislam7256]

Completly agreed!

[@saraaaaa9803]

Its not even about amazon or alibaba, i am asian but i think you guys just wanted to hate on everything that got something to do with the west. The jealousy is real.

[@ArunKumar-vu8ct]

How is amazon taking power from people? Enlighten me :/

[@danielkerby3834]

I respect this man as much as Elon Musk

[@jmg9509]

Daniel Kerby I was thinking the same

[@vincentzhou1111]

Manush Shah your last sentence makes no grammatical sense. Wtf are you saying?

[@carson3191]

I respected him until he joined the communist party

[@harold868]

Vincent Zhou he’s saying, knowing Musk’s unconventional attitude, mindset and leadership style, he will either be successful (turning Tesla into a 500 billion company) or fuck up the whole company and bankrupt it

[@hnktan]

@@harold868 i know but Just remember Steve Jobs created apple for money But this project helped to advance humanity and technology, elon musk is not different he do every thing for mony

[@arvindyadav6767]

Jack ma is the future of e- commerce rest all companies are gone

[@user-cl5er3ol9n]

Market analysis of the Asia-Pacific region (16 November 2018) Asia-Pacific stock indices ended the week mostly in positive territory, despite the fact that on Friday, US officials announced their intention to increase import duties…e-fin.top

[@willhoward2724]

HA!! Amazon is taking over the world my friend....

[@Krying]

Interviewer and interviewee is at different level

[@axelschroeder6657]

Jack Ma points out the win -win aspect of his business model. That is the same philosophy with the Chinese Belt and Road (new silk road) plan, win - win for entire countries and their economies. I think this is much better than the "its my way or the highway" approach that we so much in this world.

[@zobenny8290]

Axel Schroeder totally agree with you ：）

[@axelschroeder6657]

@@zobenny8290 Thank you, 谢谢, best regards, Axel Schroeder

[@mariontinio8667]

Nope, the Belt and Road is China's way to control the world.

[@jamesfowler6306]

If you think China is building all these roads and rail systems out of the goodness if their hearts you are very naive. I live in Cambodia and I see first hand what is happening. Firstly, these are not free gifts, they are multi billion dollar loans, and when these small countries can't repay the debt, guess what, China negotiates 99 year leases. Two military bases under construction in Cambodia, one in Thailand. Whole economies being directed from Beijing. In a few years time it'll be all done bar raising the flag. The Chinese republics of Cambodia, Myanmar, Laos and Thailand are not far away

[@hunttyp5845]

@@jamesfowler6306 when have you ever seen a Chinese flag outside of China? China has been doing business with the whole world for decades. And which country has became another china? Your shithole third world trash country should be wiped out from earth.

[@jianqiliao2506]

Amazon is like a empire, and Alababa's philosophy is like a ecosystem.

[@ArunKumar-vu8ct]

What is the point of repeating what he said ?

[@alinurshow1930]

@@ArunKumar-vu8ct ahahha you best bro

[@benjaminmunyoki8044]

and an ecosystem means user friendly

[@gam2752]

Communism.

[@gajendrakc813]

Love how he has made the word 'technology' his own calling it 'techknowledge'

[@kingsingh6613]

Man behind jack ma is taking little sleep naps 😂😂

[@MrAtaguas]

Most people might not catch it (sarcasm) ... but this might be the most potent low key diss to Bezos ... "Our model is to empower others ... they are like an empire" ... making it seem like Amazon is a Oligopoly ... but Alibaba is a small business which is "for the common man/woman" lol

[@ufo717212]

The Amazon model has been adopted by China's JD, the major domestic rival of Alibaba. Jack Ma's model is more similar to ebay, but with much better management and regulations. Moreover Alibaba was created as a B2B website and they're still the leading B2B platform in the world today. That allows them more flexibility or margins of error when running B2C and C2C.

[@benjaminmunyoki8044]

Jack's experience and competency is always manifested in his speech; to say experience is the best teacher.

[@zaheerahmed5383]

We have patience.....We will empower small business...... JACK MA is such a great motivator whenever he answers questions.

[@imz01]

there's a big reason why Jack ma is a very lovely person. he talks about providing humans jobs rather than replacing them with machines and many other good stuff which is super beneficial and he's a multi billionaire too.... great inspiration

[@mdyaseensharif2015]

What an amazing reply. That truly made me fan of you

[@dannyguzmanjr1744]

Love Jack Ma. Amazing Entrepreneur & guy

[@priyankajain9948]

Lot of love and respect for this man..

[@foxsports99]

These CNBC international series are terrific

[@TheSudhanshu1982]

100% respect - Jack Ma.

[@Ar938]

People: He’s not intelligent because of his talk w Musk. Jack Ma: *$41 billion net worth*

[@happybear3706]

Ppl got nothing better to do than be a bunch of nobodies behind a computer screen. Btw in that interview, jack ma and Elon musk were having fun and ma admitted that wasn’t his area of expertise.

[@jasoutloud]

Even Einstein would look stupid if you ask him about nail polish. Jack Ma is a smart businessman. That's it. You can't ask him about rocket science, AI, Quantum physics and expect him to give you an intellectual answer.

[@MrRaps2]

Oh, boy. I wish money was sign of intelligence. The world would be a better place.

[@lang8097]

@@MrRaps2 it is, you're just looking at a very small sample size. I assume you mean entertainers who are not intelligent but talented?

[@BiswasRakeeb]

I love your great philosophy Jack Ma. Love from Bangladesh

[@pennskyre]

Wow, I am amazed with his zen demeanor.

[@Benga-Eno]

Wow. Absolutely inspiring, amazing.

[@siphumelelemaqanda8687]

The respect I have for this man.

[@gjinro743]

Good man. Already watched this a number of times, very inspiring.

[@astrofic3345]

🤣🤣 Nice dude. I suggest you to watch his latest interview with Elon Musk. 🤣🤣

[@Red487239]

Still can't take him seriously after his talk with Musk

[@brianmujica5140]

Thank God I'm not the only one

[@MartinezVM]

He is not an engineer, and this talk is about something he knows. He was wrong about what the talked at the AI conference, he is still a human and can make mistakes; but you cannot give a general opinion of him because what happened a couple days ago, and you only bash him because internet says so.

[@ashwins1506]

@@MartinezVM Completely agreed.

[@brianmujica5140]

@@MartinezVM No one is bashing him lol, it's just that for some of us it was the first time seeing Jack Ma debating . They say the first impression of someone is really important so that's why is hard to take him seriously after that. I know he is an intelligent man. We are all on the same page about him being a human and being able to make mistakes so don't bring that up.

[@altairibn-laahad6887]

He said nothing wrong in his talk with Elon Musí tho. Computers will never be same as humans and are always going to be controlled by at least one human being.

[@GeorgeLee]

First time to hear him. Brilliant !

[@felixcsao4184]

Is that Toby from the HR department at the back?

[@katrinbaser9389]

I am the English teacher and I really like his English, super!!!!

[@shahriramir2350]

Love it. U inspired us sir jack maa

[@jamesduff6937]

As soon as this guy opens his mouth you know he is a clever cookie. I really enjoyed your speech. Thank you.

[@sasidharan4460]

I really love Jackma !

[@jedumalagan6632]

Love China and Jack Ma from Phils. ❤🇨🇳🇵🇭

[@dostonashurov7704]

Jack Ma is a philosopher. His words motivate young people and his ideas solve complaints!

[@munnamonk7608]

Jack Ma is my inspiration

[@varivavariva6045]

Very inspirational. He has a really good point --- there isn't just one correct model that fits every country and every market in this global world

[@youngflamemp3]

Damn this man is just awesome

[@samvedadavangere6749]

Best motivator in the world. Youngsters must follow him.

[@kicocol]

A couple months ago, I stop buying at Amazon and start buying at Aliexpress and some things in Alibaba. Delivery time is longer but shipping costs are lower, there is plenty of different products and interaction with suppliers is nice. At Amazon I buy only American books.

[@dannisv]

Have you seen work conditions for Amazon employees? You made the RIGHT decision!

[@ethanrai2871]

very good conversation.....!!

[@betho121]

I really admire you Sir. I like your way of thinking ..👌💯

[@mikedayokane6964]

Having lived in China for 5years I can tell you that their delivery system is light years ahead with taobao or just in general with food etc. Plus its Usually done on an ebike

[@fernfournier2772]

I love this men the way he thing

[@herakets3259]

3:46 I was about as surprised as she was. Shocking revelation all around.

[@PokePersonPower]

What a great speaker

[@sainathbelkar]

Love your vision jack ma

[@darko6666]

Amazon be like: *lets get this horizontal integration bread*

[@davidgogoi6699]

Did anyone notice Vijay Shekhar Sharma?

[@abualexmathew3887]

David Gogoi Jack ma is to Vijay Shkhar, Masayoshi is to Jack Ma

[@brandongrady7732]

I like him he is really smart

[@Babumoshai..]

I Like how he said *we* remind me of Soviet anthem

[@haniewan6519]

So great person for human being to ficiletat everyone on planet Earth

[@gorafix3192]

Amazon is Walmart on the internet. Alibaba and Ebay are a different way to do e-commerce (I prefer the latter btw).

[@nicolashrv]

You mean Aliexpress........Alibaba is a B2B platform where companies learn about other companies and services. I would say eBay is a piece of garbage compared to Aliexpress. eBay is in the dark ages compared to them.......they now improved their logistics to a level in which you can receive updates of your orders on your phone, you learn when the mail arrives your country, when it arrives the delivery office, and when the mail is out for delivery. They protect the buyer as long the seller in equal shares, and their resolution service is 100 times faster than eBay, which has NO CUSTOMER support at all and you can screw yourself if there is a problem. Aliexpress also charges 10% to the seller, while eBay is now in around 17% plus taxes, so you end up spending up to 30% of your sales when you include Paypal.

[@Nitinsinghsiwan]

Who on Alibaba competes with IBM or Microsoft?

[@sakibsocial]

I respect this man as much as myself

[@yamatube2574]

I learned a new world "technolog"

[@antoniodossantos5960]

Jack Ma...brilliant, humble ...great 🌎

[@loveemaaron]

Jack Ma seems like an incredible man, never mind is business achievements

[@user-pj7zj6wz1l]

Amazon only has about 10% of the stuff that Alibaba does. Alibaba is the ultimate shopping destination.

[@user-sl6ou3qb9l]

You don't shop at alibaba Alibaba is for manufacturers and suppliers to make business with other companies and sellers You cannot buy at alibaba unless you got hundreds of dollars to spend on large amounts of a single product You mean AliExpress

[@may.b.tomorrow]

@@user-sl6ou3qb9l alibaba is the name of the company, they own many other businesses. However when we are talking about them we refer to them as alibaba. like taobao 淘宝 which is a platform made by alibaba, which dominates china and made amazon to forget about doing business seriously in china. They don't use aliexpress in china. And Taobao is freaking huge. You can buy almost anything. Supermarket goods, Fresh food, Clothes, Electronics, Cars, Airplane, even small things like plastic tubes etc

[@duneeda1234]

What a guy , I bought when he started , 100 percent satisfaction . Ireland .

[@pomax8347]

Love u jack ma ❤️🧡💛💚💙💜♥️

[@calinescualexandru554]

Jack Ma is so deep and his words are full of wisdom.

[@alliswell9554]

awesome man.

[@joramsy4996]

I like his spirit

[@Neurosatis]

Very intersting.

[@Sagricon]

What a smart opening statement.

[@Janeforya]

i respect Jack MA so much. seems like i have been seeing the world through this guy. He is the real leader.

[@zone2478]

Amazon have products that don't shipped in my place... Whereas every ali express product shipped.... That what i like more about ali express

[@abbiewhitehead1661]

so good

[@lifethrownoutofthewindow]

i made a mistake to watch Jack Ma for the first time with musk. Now in all of his videos i find a meme

[@mEtAlMaNiAc787]

lol that guy in the background!

[@omkarsurve1973]

The guy in the back seems too happy with jack ma answers

[@aatone4530]

Lmao thanks

[@migdolmielies]

What a great man!!!!

[@GoldenArtsOnline]

This is the guy who made a video clip with the best martial artists in the history of cinema, Jet lee, Donnie Yen, and I think Jackie Chan was in it to right? Not sure. But he made a short "movie" about him being a Martial Arts Master beating up the best Martial Arts movie stars and in the end it was all a daydream. It was his dream of being included in one movie with the best of the best and that dream was made into a movie creating somewhat a paradox of itself. Smart guy.

[@combinedstudy6427]

Removing monopoly and empire of business of few people and ensuring unity in diversity and healthy competition. Hatts off you Sir.

[@mayheart1268]

He spoke real good

[@Blubbha]

'be patient" vs. "Its always day one"

[@Twactdaddy]

INTERESTING

[@honestabe5153]

Well said

[@iceybrice]

Kid in the back was sweating Alibaba so hard

[@Surbhit7]

Only respect for Jack Ma. Nothing else.

[@stargazeronesixseven]

🙏 If only Alibaba can improved the Safety & Quality of the merchandises they're selling , Alibaba would be unbeatable! 🕯

[@mamadoualimousow9001]

Chinese in my country guinea West Africa own every chains they work in any business they start . Big up Jack ma

[@joshuarowe8410]

Yeah ultimately these are just words and all these people in the KZbin comments soak it up. Alibaba group still makes shitloads of money and has lots and lots of assets.

[@prosperajayagroup6480]

Empowering other small businesses, this Chinese man is behaving like a good Christian, become blessing for others. Well done Jack!

[@khangkor868]

wow!

[@bandungseksi8560]

Hey guys please all people who comment negative on China or Alibaba or Jack ma please note that in USA we know a man who called wolf of wall street or we know his name is jordan bellford, which there is no people like Jordan bellford in china but there is people like him in other country too like Indonesia note that