i never thought that i would see my teacher brad on youtube. hope you can put more videos
@jkj14594 жыл бұрын
WOW
@KrazyKajun6027 жыл бұрын
Great video, do you have any info on best methods of how to properly brace a hip roof either to a interior wall or on the ceiling joist?
@buildingreno7 жыл бұрын
WAYNE DESHOTEL blocking between the ceiling joist.
@MexSider3 жыл бұрын
HARD AT THIS MOMENT, Im building my garage, hip roof and dont know those cuts, I wish a had a class in High skool to learn this, Now it's hard to understand what Im doing...Thnks for this video...I will make it, not professional, but for my own home its ok...
@buildingreno2 жыл бұрын
You can do it!
@jeremyfoster69425 ай бұрын
Why not use the jack side cut angle table on the framing square?
@PaulWW369 жыл бұрын
Easiest video I've found to explain this for me, but for Gods sake sack Travis from camera duty :)
@YoshevElazarMikael5 жыл бұрын
Good stuff sir, if you divide the spacing between rafters by cos degree of the roof you will find the same difference in length. eg. 16"/cos36.87 = 20"
@timbarry50804 жыл бұрын
When you are on site laying out rafters do you use any sort of stop on your square or make a jig for repeating marks? Thank you for the great video.
@gregmackinnon80984 жыл бұрын
Unit of line length!!???
@timbarry50804 жыл бұрын
Greg MacKinnon I'm sorry. I don't get your point
@ivanzelic67134 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thanks for sharing your knowledge! Just small remark if you have 2x8 hip rafter,I don't think that half of 45 degree angle is not inch and sixteenth.Thanks!
@waynefraser61226 жыл бұрын
very informative video , how would you convert all dims to metric to use a metric roofing Square ? there is almost no info available on metric roofing Squares
@buildingreno6 жыл бұрын
Wayne Fraser the metric square is called the Frederickson square I believe. It has a rafter table just like the imperial square. I'm pretty sure the unit of run is 400mm.
@saeefan7 жыл бұрын
very informative, thank you. I am building a room with hip roof using steel structure. Does the same rule apply as using timber? Also, the strength of steel is much higher than wood, do I need to consider different size for HIP rafters, and Ridge? I can not find anywhere a guide for the spacing of the common rafters Is there a rule to follow? thank you.
@MrLgmurphysr6 жыл бұрын
A Saeefan geometry doesn't care what material you use.
@HBSuccess10 жыл бұрын
Good Tutorial ! This is splitting hairs perhaps, but "half the thickness of the hip at 45 degrees" also does not work if you have a multiple -pitch roof. (9/12 in one direction, 12/12 in the other for example), because the hip is no longer 45 degrees to the plates. The difference isn't much on a 2x hip or valley - most framers I know don't even bother to recalc it. However - when you get into timber rafters and etc - now that difference goes from being 1/16" to being 5/16" or something - it's enough to make for a sloppy fit or an off-center cob-job.
@MrLgmurphysr6 жыл бұрын
Tioga Fretworks when you work with big expensive timbers you calculate every piece individually. Unless you've got bags full of money just laying around the jobsite.
@tahitinui201010 жыл бұрын
How critical is a Hip Jack to the structure of a roof? I have a few where the exposed ends are compromised by termite damage. 2 of them are compromised to 3" from the stucco, a couple other ones from 1/3 to 2/3 of the extremities to the stucco. Estimators have different ways of fixing the damage from bondoing, sistering or opening the roof so a new hip jack can be attached to the hip rafter by sliding a new piece from the outside in since there is very little clearance from the attic to do this from the inside. Those who are proposing bondo patches and sistering swear it will not jeoperdize the structure of the roof. Some seem to think they are dealing with a rafter tail rather than a hip jack. My search on the internet tells me that they are different however I have not yet found a site or a video that shows how to fix or replace a hip jack. What would be your best advice to fix the problem I have and conserve the structural integrity of the roof?
@buildingreno9 жыл бұрын
tahitinui2010 You can sister them up. Bondo patches won't offer any strength. Will you be able to make a connection at the hip? The longer the jack the more it does to support the sheathing and roofing. I hope that helps. Wow!!!! likely not cause this is a year old! Sorry!
@MrLgmurphysr6 жыл бұрын
If the rafters are still full bearing and the damage doesn't go into the seat cut you can just repair it any way you can get nails to hold.
@togodbetheglory97255 жыл бұрын
I m building a 14x16 gazebo with a hip roof I want to leave a 2t overhang do you know what's my rafters length should be ? Please
@buildingreno5 жыл бұрын
Oh a gazebo! Nice! Use whatever rise you wish but use 13" for the run of the hips.
@davidjacobs85585 жыл бұрын
people usually use longer than necessary rafters, and cut them after all the rafters are installed, to the correct length. ie, avoid doing calculation.
@dennishala12722 жыл бұрын
Tell me how to shorten the hip rafter if it's lvl. Like it's not always an inch and a sixteenth
@buildingreno2 жыл бұрын
Whatever half of the 45 degree thickness is. Draw a 45 on the top of the LVL...measure it.... half of that is the shortening. Easy as pie.
@roccovitiello70317 жыл бұрын
Good demo
@wilsonthairunjoroge12262 жыл бұрын
waoh wonderful
@adrianojames58284 жыл бұрын
more James Taylor !
@raganhayes49242 жыл бұрын
how do you figure out the half of the hip stock angle? I know you said 1 1/16 inch. how do you figure that?
@buildingreno2 жыл бұрын
Draw a line at 45 degrees across the top of a 1.5" piece of lumber. You will see that it is 2 1/8" long. So half of that is 1 1/16".
@raganhayes49242 жыл бұрын
@@buildingreno Thanks
@arnulfochele36 жыл бұрын
thank for for share your information with us .question how can figure out the overhang with framing squere?
@antonii222zelaya34 жыл бұрын
Arnulfo i can teach you if you want te enseño si quietes
@carnivourousfasting7 жыл бұрын
is there any chance you can do a full metric tutorial
@robertoinvests3 жыл бұрын
good
@sergiomiranda2118 жыл бұрын
good video
@juniusrosario30894 жыл бұрын
Lvls are an 1and 3/4 " where I'm from
@carlosj.gonzalez26487 жыл бұрын
any videos on how to calculate hip tails
@cmac2326 жыл бұрын
you just step it off the distance of the overhang.
@MrLgmurphysr6 жыл бұрын
Carlos J. Gonzalez if you absolutely have to calculate tails, remember it's a triangle, just like the rafters.
@antonii222zelaya34 жыл бұрын
If the overhang is 12 in just do 12 inch run and the pitch and press hip and that's it
@Jay-tk7ib7 жыл бұрын
I guess no one uses their framing square anymore to find side cut angles. If you mark the side cut angle, and make your side line mark, then shorten from that line (not the squared line) and mark the 2nd (actual) cut line. Then all you need do, after layout, is set your saw bevel and cut. I suppose your method is another way to achieve the same result, and that's fine, but I wonder why the square method is not being taught anymore. Those side angles are stamped on the framing square for a reason.
@AliBinSun5 жыл бұрын
I never ever heard any one explain the side cuts on the framing square. Any resources you could lead me to explain further information please?
@Jay-tk7ib5 жыл бұрын
@@AliBinSun On the 5th line of your square, it says "side cut of jacks." Follow that 5th line over to the inch number of your slope (9 for a 9/12). Under the 9, in the 5th line, it says 9 5/8. Put gauges on the tongue of your square on 9 5/8, and the blade of your square on the 12. After squaring a line across the top of your board, and marking the center, place the blade of your square on top of board using the 9 5/8" and 12" where it intersects the center mark of board. Mark this angle, on the 12" side, and then mark your plumb line down the side of board from the end of this line. shorten it, and make new plumb line, then at top just mark the angle across the top again. Set your saw bevel to 45 degrees and cut. For hip or valley, you mark these lines in both directions, but those angles will be different than for jacks. It's all stamped into your square. This is given this way because the compound angles will be a little different, depending on your slope. Doing it as in the video above is okay, but it's using a 45 degree for every side cut angle, when they're not all 45. This way will give you a little better fit.
@Jay-tk7ib5 жыл бұрын
Note: You can mark this side cut angle on a board (with framing square), then take a bevel square and set it on that angle and lock it. Now you can use this instead of having to use the big framing square. You really don't have to do this but one time. You can use common length difference for the rest, going from long point, down to your plumb line. You'll have to measure from long point of the one you laid out and cut. Then measure that distance down the next one, and subtract the common length difference, if you're going down hill.
@jeremyfoster69425 ай бұрын
I use the framing square side cut angle table, the reason many don't is not knowing how to read it off the square, AND it's always greater than 45° that a skillsaw can cut, even more so the steeper the pitch, so they get lazy and lop it off at 45 , if you cut it by hand or use a mitre saw its perfect every time. Note on this video there was no closeup of the bevel against the hip, the pitch looked pretty steep, so I'm guessing it wasn't quite as sweet a joint as he'd have you believe 😂
@Jay-tk7ib5 ай бұрын
@@jeremyfoster6942 Yes. I said above to cut the angle at 45 degrees, but using a miter saw is more accurate if you need an angle greater than 45. 45-degree angles will work, but you get a better fit with the side-cut method.
@JasveerSingh-bx6nv9 жыл бұрын
Ok
@jkj14594 жыл бұрын
GREAT VIDEO BUT MY PROBLEM DEALING WITH FOOT/INCH MEASUREMENT OMG
@dogf4ther5 жыл бұрын
Man I can't get this inches stuff metric so much easier
@buildingreno5 жыл бұрын
Yep.
@YoshevElazarMikael5 жыл бұрын
1 inch = 25 mm
@dogf4ther5 жыл бұрын
@@YoshevElazarMikael 25.4 then they start with 8th of inch and when they get really down to detail the say 1000s of an inch which is metric. 3 mm or 4 mm so much easier to adjust up a rule when explaining something. 1/8 about 3 mil then you go to 11/64s for 4mm just really hard work. I like being accurate. Love the videos but i can't get my head round this stuff saying about an 1/8 th of an inch so 3 mm or 3.5 mm
@dennishala12722 жыл бұрын
Could u do a valley rafter layout
@buildingreno2 жыл бұрын
Same as a hip. Just one cheek cut at the bottom...no hip drop required.
@tommoyer9805 жыл бұрын
Where's this 15" coming from?
@hudsonsoul11212 жыл бұрын
Jack pitched length which equates to a foot overhang
@adammoore7207 Жыл бұрын
9²+12²=15²
@MrJCDean6 жыл бұрын
What is 4 units? What is a unit?
@buildingreno6 жыл бұрын
MrJCDean a unit of run is 12" a unit of rise is how many inches up the roof will climb every foot it moves in. A unit of line length is the hyp. of a unit of run/rise.
@MrJCDean6 жыл бұрын
Got it, Thank You
@MrLgmurphysr6 жыл бұрын
MrJCDean like I said previously ... Too many words.
@dennishala4872 жыл бұрын
Could u do valley rafters please?
@buildingreno2 жыл бұрын
Valleys are the same as hips. But, no hip drop required. Also shorten the tail like a hip but make only a single cheek cut at the bottom.
@dennishala4872 жыл бұрын
@@buildingreno I would love for u to make a video
@thebluecrayon1757 жыл бұрын
Sup
@triniguy88 Жыл бұрын
Here because of a Casey Neistat comment
@cd55616 жыл бұрын
Should of used a handsaw or jigsaw to finish off the birdsmouth.
@buildingreno6 жыл бұрын
Just a demo. I agree we don't over cut unless we are using over sized rafters.
@MrLgmurphysr6 жыл бұрын
C D hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. The first time you do that on a pro jobsite you're history.
@tonyroberts83505 жыл бұрын
Jigsaw?
@omarsegovia68034 жыл бұрын
Traduction spanish, please fron Argentina
@adrianojames58284 жыл бұрын
puedo ayudarte Omar , preguntas?
@johnweyant10884 жыл бұрын
You make that way to complicated. The easiest way to come up with the length of the first jack rafter is, assemble the roof with all the commons in place and the hips in place. Straighten the hips by bracing them to the ceiling joists. At the top of the last common rafter that is a 16” on center rafter, hook your tape measure on it and mark the hip where your longest jack will be placed. Put a framing square against the common at the side of the ridge and mark that common. Just measure from the end of that rafter and that is the measurement that would be subtracted from a common and there’s the longest jack.
@buildingreno3 жыл бұрын
oh ya! that seems way easier! hahahahahaha!! Calculate and cut it all safe on the ground and pass up the parts. Much faster. Much Safer. Thank you for a good laugh!! I enjoy when everyone has a great sense of humor! BTW : too complicated. Not, "to complicated". Grammar counts!
@majesticvillasphuket.71903 жыл бұрын
A lot easier to use a speed square, use the hip and valley marks.
@buildingreno3 жыл бұрын
Both squares are great tools!
@daverobinson938110 жыл бұрын
wat
@880life.77 жыл бұрын
always leave the tails long!!!!
@buildingreno7 жыл бұрын
Cut the tails on the ground. it's faster and safer.
@MrLgmurphysr6 жыл бұрын
If you can build plumb and square walls you don't have to leave anything long. What a marroooon. (Quoting Bugs Bunny)
@panoramaentrosaoluiscosta93344 жыл бұрын
Oi
@ronaldwalters47155 жыл бұрын
mk
@alangoodwin19666 жыл бұрын
You weakened that jack rafter by over cutting your birds mouth.
@MrLgmurphysr6 жыл бұрын
Wolfbyte World no he didn't.
@joelethalcruz44178 жыл бұрын
but that takes too long...when u r on the field
@ioanalbu66894 жыл бұрын
Cai Derasa
@matthewstevenson30023 жыл бұрын
Why don't you just use metric it's so less complicated to work out lengths/angles using TAN COS SIN
@buildingreno2 жыл бұрын
Yep. Trig will work as well. Using "slope" for the entire roof is in the end faster and know through North America as the standard for roofs