Why Did Phoenix Wright Become a Hobo?

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Jack's Melancholy

Jack's Melancholy

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@Ganmorg
@Ganmorg 3 жыл бұрын
Turns out that's just how he dresses when he's off the job. His feelings are probably really hurt by us calling him a hobo all the time
@abysswalker2594
@abysswalker2594 3 жыл бұрын
True
@tenkuken7168
@tenkuken7168 3 жыл бұрын
he has that dad clothes design
@masterspark9880
@masterspark9880 3 жыл бұрын
Isn’t that how normal people dress
@Tssnake
@Tssnake 3 жыл бұрын
Mark The Spark that’s how I dress
@Sansibit
@Sansibit 3 жыл бұрын
Bruh meee
@wrendraws2361
@wrendraws2361 3 жыл бұрын
'disbarred for forging evidence'? WHAT? AND VON KARMA GOT OFF WITH A _PENALTY??????_ damn.
@circularsquare4764
@circularsquare4764 3 жыл бұрын
If you play Investigations 2 you kinda understand why he gets away with just a penalty
@Kayalter
@Kayalter 3 жыл бұрын
@@circularsquare4764''In his defense, capcom never localized it and you need to get the japanese version and patch it to even play or learn japanese and play the japanese version''
@circularsquare4764
@circularsquare4764 3 жыл бұрын
@@Kayalter Yeah I understand,I'm not blaming him for not knowing or anything ,if that's what it seems like I'm doing.
@Kayalter
@Kayalter 3 жыл бұрын
@@circularsquare4764 I was being sarcastic hence the quotations, its ok nothing happened and your answer is legit since in the 3rd case it is rather explained in great detail what happened on that trail and how he got off with only a penalty{It doesn't show how it went down in court but it shows how it was set to happen and why}
@circularsquare4764
@circularsquare4764 3 жыл бұрын
@@Kayalter oh ok,my bad.
@Reoko77
@Reoko77 3 жыл бұрын
His disbarrement also show his darker personality too. It showed he can hold a grudge, use people and put others in bad positions, regardless of how they feel or the consequences. How Edgeworth went down a dark path, so did pheonix.
@Shindenize
@Shindenize 3 жыл бұрын
Yes that's correct. Avoiding some spoilers, he actually did some "questionable" things in the game as Hobo Phoenix that would otherwise borderline illegal. And all he has to go for as a defense is he is a disbarred attorney so he is technically allowed to do such things. But the brilliant thing about it is all the things Phoenix did is for everyone to show that the current judicial system they use is flawed and must be amended, thus the creation of the Jury System.
@honkaiimpact7075
@honkaiimpact7075 3 жыл бұрын
@Dark AA 5-6 are by different authors so take note.
@YukeWeiss
@YukeWeiss 3 жыл бұрын
@Dark You should play Great Ace Attorney. They didn't waste the potential but channeled it elsewhere
@grosebud4721
@grosebud4721 3 жыл бұрын
Which is why they’re perfect for each other LMAOOOO
@DuelaDent52
@DuelaDent52 3 жыл бұрын
Which kind of ticked me off. He was Phoenix Wright the same way that was supposed to be Luke Skywalker in The Last Jedi.
@thepresidentjulius3820
@thepresidentjulius3820 3 жыл бұрын
When phoenix was disbarred i almost cried,it felt so personal see phoenix in that state was hard and unfair,but even with that i still like him for the rest of the game,i personally like the route they went trough with nick making him a hobo-mentor for apollo
@JacksMelancholy
@JacksMelancholy 3 жыл бұрын
I can relate to how you felt so much, ha ha.
@sabonnzm7193
@sabonnzm7193 3 жыл бұрын
Also, PHOENIX IS A FATHER
@justcomments
@justcomments 3 жыл бұрын
I played Apollo Justice before Phoenix Wright, so it only dawned on me afterward what a big deal it was
@hitkid2456
@hitkid2456 3 жыл бұрын
@@justcomments It really shows just what the difference is between the two sides in Japan
@zdelrod829
@zdelrod829 3 жыл бұрын
I mean he had to pass the torch along eventually
@Slenderquil
@Slenderquil 3 жыл бұрын
One thing that I love about the papa hat is that, if I'm remembering correctly, the emma pin isn't just for show. It also has a hidden camera that Phoenix uses to gather evidence
@backerson5576
@backerson5576 3 жыл бұрын
interesting
@priyanshugoel3030
@priyanshugoel3030 3 жыл бұрын
Omoshiroi.
@ChrisTian-sd5yq
@ChrisTian-sd5yq 2 жыл бұрын
just play the final case of Apollo Justice
@Slenderquil
@Slenderquil 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisTian-sd5yq I did, I just forgot if i was right about the specifics of it
@kurokame9667
@kurokame9667 2 жыл бұрын
@@priyanshugoel3030 面白い
@Da1X_Builds
@Da1X_Builds 3 жыл бұрын
I just realized that hobo Phoenix is basically how I dress on a daily basis and I feel pretty good about myself now.
@JacksMelancholy
@JacksMelancholy 3 жыл бұрын
Likewise.
@xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx
@xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx 3 жыл бұрын
Did you also get the Lawyering Course as well?
@schizophrenic_rambler
@schizophrenic_rambler 2 жыл бұрын
Hobo gang
@squidy09
@squidy09 10 ай бұрын
real
@clownworld3382
@clownworld3382 3 жыл бұрын
Apollo got the Gohan Treatment, Phoenix gave him the spotlight only to take it back just like Goku did. What a cruel fate
@JacksMelancholy
@JacksMelancholy 3 жыл бұрын
Cruel is an understatement, especially the ride that Spirit of Justice takes Apollo on there after.
@everythingisfine8635
@everythingisfine8635 3 жыл бұрын
@Dante Cavalier because he is nowhere near as developed as Phoenix that’s why he’s worse but with more games he can be more developed
@misttermd6299
@misttermd6299 3 жыл бұрын
@@everythingisfine8635 He has 3 games (his own, Dual Destinies and Spirit of Justice) and in every single game they add MORE backstory to him. I swear in the next game they are gonna make him Wright's blood son just because.
@ThyFloorestFloor
@ThyFloorestFloor 3 жыл бұрын
@@misttermd6299 Not actually, apollo´s most important mistery is still unsolved and it is his relation with Ladynoir and Trucy since it hasn't been concluded.
@misttermd6299
@misttermd6299 3 жыл бұрын
@@ThyFloorestFloor yet another backstory for the next game
@Angel-nz8wt
@Angel-nz8wt 3 жыл бұрын
People are freaking out about how Phoenix is a hobo, but the thing is: this is probably what he wears during his investigation.
@TallTapper
@TallTapper 3 жыл бұрын
Ema moment
@areaxisthegurkha
@areaxisthegurkha 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure he wears his suit and tie until he gets disbarred. That is if the anime is canon.
@starsaber100
@starsaber100 Жыл бұрын
​@@areaxisthegurkhaif there's gonna be a Season 3 They probably Start with Phoenix and the Skye sister case, before baton Passing Apollo I was wondering why the Anime left that out despite being an Add On to the first Game
@valentds
@valentds 8 ай бұрын
@@starsaber100 that case was still on the first game timeline
@clearlynotryan
@clearlynotryan 4 ай бұрын
@@starsaber100Nah, Case 5 should be a movie.
@kapzom7399
@kapzom7399 4 жыл бұрын
I remember after playing turnabout trump, I couldn't play any more for at least 3 days because I was so heartbroken, lol
@JacksMelancholy
@JacksMelancholy 3 жыл бұрын
I can totally understand how you’d feel that way. Especially considering I had a very similar reaction.
@БогданКрименюк
@БогданКрименюк 3 жыл бұрын
That's rough buddy
@smeshnoy8538
@smeshnoy8538 3 жыл бұрын
@@БогданКрименюк Добрый вечер. (Или день, в зависимости от твоей темы Ютуба))0))
@БогданКрименюк
@БогданКрименюк 3 жыл бұрын
@@smeshnoy8538 Добрый ! Как у вас дела ?
@smeshnoy8538
@smeshnoy8538 3 жыл бұрын
@@БогданКрименюк Нормально! У вас как?
@Istiden1
@Istiden1 4 жыл бұрын
I think I would have liked it more if Wright stayed as a mentor only to Apollo in dual destinies and forward.
@JacksMelancholy
@JacksMelancholy 4 жыл бұрын
While it’s not surprising they didn’t double down on it being ‘Apollo’s story from there on out,’ I’m also intrigued to see how things could have played out if Phoenix did maintain that role.
@ΑΡΙΣΤΟΤΕΛΗΣΛΑΧΑΝΟΠΟΥΛΟΣ
@ΑΡΙΣΤΟΤΕΛΗΣΛΑΧΑΝΟΠΟΥΛΟΣ 4 жыл бұрын
Same here
@sabonnzm7193
@sabonnzm7193 3 жыл бұрын
Same. Two protagonists are enough
@dauw4564
@dauw4564 3 жыл бұрын
eh athena is fun
@Zonefire15
@Zonefire15 3 жыл бұрын
But then subsequent games wouldn't have the franchise name anymore
@thewatcher3326
@thewatcher3326 3 жыл бұрын
just imagine if Pheonix was actually guilty of the murder
@HouseMDLover69
@HouseMDLover69 3 жыл бұрын
That would be kinda cool
@Kayalter
@Kayalter 3 жыл бұрын
Ngl that would be funny
@kokobean5921
@kokobean5921 3 жыл бұрын
Oh my God...
@rainbowcat3143
@rainbowcat3143 3 жыл бұрын
Heh heh- c r a p-
@zerostudios4050
@zerostudios4050 3 жыл бұрын
He was a smooth criminal
@HazbinCovenWitch
@HazbinCovenWitch 3 жыл бұрын
_"When someone reach's their lowest point, they are capable of the greatest change."_ *-Uncle Iroh*
@suckerman7gm
@suckerman7gm 3 жыл бұрын
Um... Didn't Aang say that to Korra at LoK's S1 finale?
@alishaanimations3058
@alishaanimations3058 3 жыл бұрын
HAH FR
@HazbinCovenWitch
@HazbinCovenWitch 3 жыл бұрын
@@suckerman7gm No, Iroh did i'm pretty sure.
@nope5157
@nope5157 2 жыл бұрын
Wasn't it Aang?
@CallMeN0m117
@CallMeN0m117 4 ай бұрын
YES,, YYEEAAAAAAAAAAA-
@0vrconfident
@0vrconfident 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, my main qualm with phoenix's arc is this: why become a hobo and amateur pianist? He was originally an art major, why not just make him pursue that path again? His main purpose for becoming an attorney had already been fulfilled, he should've gone back to his original dream
@grosebud4721
@grosebud4721 3 жыл бұрын
I think once he saved the people he cared about, he realized he actually wanted to do it for the rest of his life. Yes he wanted to help his friends that inspired him when he was young, but part of that inspiration was to continue saving those who “have no one on their side/ can’t defend themselves” so as long as he is still doing that I feel like he has not fulfilled his goal. And maybe he just liked it more than he thought he would or it became even more important to him.
@Zoe-hb2oj
@Zoe-hb2oj 3 жыл бұрын
Right! Why not go back to theatre?? Wasn't that his original passion, to become a Shakespeare Actor?
@calliejackie8685
@calliejackie8685 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe that's what he did, but he finished that dream and is now trying somethinf else...?
@notimeforcreativenamesjust3034
@notimeforcreativenamesjust3034 2 жыл бұрын
@@Zoe-hb2oj that's just another way of saying homeless
@lunarisita26
@lunarisita26 Жыл бұрын
Because i'm pretty sure he had reasons to work there, the amount of shady people he was able to contact with through his poker career...
@sideshowkrill
@sideshowkrill 3 жыл бұрын
Its very interesting to see the previous protagonist go through such a negative character arc. I personally love Hobo Phoenix and I hate the 3DS games for ditching the idea. They had so much room for potential to develop him as a leader and mentor rather than somewhat regressing his progression as a character. I wish we got AJ 2 instead of DD
@JacksMelancholy
@JacksMelancholy 3 жыл бұрын
I agree that there was so much squandered potential in Apollo Justice. Capcom should have committed to one idea because now it feels like several characters haven’t had the time they need to be fleshed out, especially Athena. Thank you for your comment.
@shinysparce3708
@shinysparce3708 3 жыл бұрын
I liked dual destinies, and I completely understand where you’re coming from, but I feel like the only thing that really hurt dual destinies was Apollo getting that crazy backstory we didn’t need. Although Hobo Phoenix was an awesome character, it makes sense that after proving he didn’t forge the evidence he gets his badge back, it’s what makes the finale of AJAA so awesome, we’re seeing phoenix’s plan to get his badge back come to fruition. And I think he’s still a really good mentor in the newer games, and although I see where you’re coming from with Athena, I generally disagree. Athenas backstory in Dual Destinies was one of the best in the series, and now that Apollo’s gone after SOJ, I feel like the series is going to focus on her a little bit more with the seventh game.
@axeoseilez3207
@axeoseilez3207 3 жыл бұрын
DD was a better direction imo apollo added nothing and left no impact whatsoever in his first game. So they needed athena for him to play off of. He felt very one dimensional and that backstory in DD helped a little to make him more human. Although that stupid chords of steel joke should have died with the first game.
@shinysparce3708
@shinysparce3708 3 жыл бұрын
@@axeoseilez3207 I- excuse me? Apollo only seems to be one dimensional because he was built to be a new character. He was designed to be the opposite of Phoenix, Phoenix comes off as a badass, but in reality is a total klutz, Apollo comes off as an idiot who doesn’t know what he’s doing, but in reality is more capable and calm than Phoenix ever was or is, that’s why he does chords of steel, to enforce the idea that he comes off as a idiot. The reason he had no backstory is because he didn’t need one, it doesn’t matter what happens in his past, what matters is what he is now. He doesn’t need a backstory to be human, not every human has a backstory. I enjoyed Apollo before Like I said before, I adore DD, but I also think that Apollo’s backstory really hindered the game and dragged it down. Apollo didn’t need Athena to play off of, because he had Trucy, who in my opinion is a better partner character. I don’t mind the addition of Athena, but they should have focused the game on her, since her and Blackquills story was so well thought out. Apollo didn’t need the backstory with clay, it was unnecessary, and forced, and not even well written.
@shinysparce3708
@shinysparce3708 3 жыл бұрын
What I’m trying to argue is that every ace attorney game is a masterpiece, and no one will ever be able to tell me there is a single ace attorney game that is more bad then it is good.
@GIRru11
@GIRru11 2 жыл бұрын
What I love the most about Apollo Justice, is the fact that it shows how smart Phoenix truly is when he isn't forced to follow the law. Whenever we play as him, we see him panicking a lot because he is limited ti only doing things as long as he is allowed to. I mean some prosecutors in the series literally abuse the judge but are somehow allowed to get away with it, but Phoenix always gets extremely harsh punishments for smaller things. But here, he doesn't have to follow any rules, especially since those rules resulted in him losing his badge when he was tricked, and could allow the real culprit to get away scott free due to those rules
@eggi4443
@eggi4443 7 ай бұрын
That's what I despise about his arc. Franziska for example is free to abuse everyone in court with her whip (Larry and Phoenix losing consciousness) and it's played off as a gag. the inconsistency is really annoying
@penixtrite6709
@penixtrite6709 4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad people have taken a more positive stance on AJ, its characters and what it's done these days Almost everyone inluding myself used to really dislike it and called it "the worst in the series" for trying something new but the thing that makes it great is that it put in the effort to be a new saga while still retaining the core of Ace Attorney and expanding on those ideas and messages from the trilogy sometimes in a more jaded way. Phoenix included. I love this jaded take on him and it offered him a place in this new saga that he otherwise would've had no place in, i love how he's characterized and you can tell that he's still Phoenix Wright at his core even before you hear his monologues when his cool facade starts to crack and all we see is a broken man who's willing to go through any length to reach the truth and do the right thing and yet he views himself as undeserving of serving under the law because of those actions and he taunts Apollo into punching him. Phoenix isn't the best "mentor" figure to Apollo, his appproach to teaching him is different from Mia's and he's intentionally vague and coy, which of course annoys Apollo and he at times uses Apollo to his own advantage. But that's his way of teaching Apollo to see this new age of the law for what it is and for Apollo to do things on his own without much help from anyone. Apollo doesn't get *saved* aside from the 2nd case and he has to prove his own case (with a bit of assistance) I definitely wish that DD onwards continued with AJ's plot points and had a similar tone (and maybe be written by Takumi too but he was likely busy making GT and PLvsPW at the time) DD onwards having this dumb rule of not spoiling previous games and continuing its plot points just hindered the series more and made it feel more disconnected. I wish Phoenix's return to law and his optimistic output was done more gradually since it feels incredibly jarring and he feels like he regressed and even more incompetent than when he was a rookie. I rambled a lot but AJ good :) And i really loved this video and i could feel your passion for the series, its characters and how it impacted you and i can even relate to it. This definitely is quite the comeback video! I hope you can talk about AA more in the future!
@JacksMelancholy
@JacksMelancholy 3 жыл бұрын
Couldn’t agree more. At the time, it was easy to feel slighted by the series for taking a character a lot of people loved and throwing them down to their lowest point. But in retrospect, it only built Phoenix’s character even more, making him an intricate and intriguing individual.
@shinysparce3708
@shinysparce3708 3 жыл бұрын
Apollo Justice is my favorite game from the franchise, even though it only has three cases. (Turnabout Serenade? Never heard of it.) I love Hobo Phoenix, I love Trucy, and I love pre-edgy Apollo, although post edgy apollo isn’t bad either.
@tantris2876
@tantris2876 3 жыл бұрын
Note before the comment: I liked all of them except for PW:AA and MEI:AA. I probably didn’t like PW:AA that much because I always have to look on the tutorial instead of just watching it normally like the other games. Well here’s my list of the Ace Attorney games that I played/watched 1. MEI:AA-PP (Aka the fan-translation) 2. AJ:SoJ 3. TD (Triple Destinies) 4. AJ+PW:AA 5. PW:AA (I’m on the first trial part on RFtA) 6. MEI:AA
@ryanm8529
@ryanm8529 3 жыл бұрын
That's not why I dislike Apollo Justice. I don't like it being of the cases. Case 1 is a good opening case with twists and turns, I like it. No problem there. Case 2, the Investigations are extremely boring in this case, Mr Graduate Panties guy was just annoying, no redeeming qualities. Villan feather girl was ok, not the best. 2.5/5 case. Turnabout Serenade is godawful, probably worst in the series. Let's review this CGI disaster a million times and make you hate the music! Blind 14year old shoots that gun without a dislocated shoulder, drags a grown man to the stage, but yeah of COURSE HE WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT COULD GO THOUGH A VENT THAT HE COULDN'T SEE!! Even Thallasa saw Pompador Police Guy and told the court. Then there's the smuggling stuff Idc about. Terrible case 0.1/5 Case 4 is messy, very messy. I don't want to go into it really, but ok. I think if the Phoenix stuff was case 4 and the main stuff was Case 5. Going to Phoenix's last trial was actually really cool. Going though that simulation to talk to people was weird. Like did that actually happen in the pass or idk. First trial is like 20 minutes long, and almost nothing of note. The simulation and the actual Apollo trial are competing for time and Phoenix is winning. They really should of had those as separate cases. 3/5
@SamtheBravesFan
@SamtheBravesFan 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly it might be one of my favorite games in the series. The aesthetic is great, the plots and characterization are solid and it's a big bonus to hit you in the nostalgic feels with original Ace Attorney music and sprites in the flashback case.
@Gabowsk
@Gabowsk 3 жыл бұрын
"Phoenix Wright had truly become the embodiment of an Ace Attorney by the end of that trilogy. A shining example of how to strive to be a beacon of truth and justice. To only do what's right." **Laughs in collecting evidence illegally**
@JacksMelancholy
@JacksMelancholy 3 жыл бұрын
It was so tragic how they massacred my boy like that.
@gewinnersieger
@gewinnersieger 3 жыл бұрын
@@JacksMelancholy I’m pretty sure OP means that in the trilogy, Phoenix collected evidence illegally, especially in Rise From The Ashes
@DuelaDent52
@DuelaDent52 3 жыл бұрын
Bridge to the Turnabout: Phoenix finally steps out of Mia’s shadow while still keeping the spark alive and faces the future with hope in heart. Apollo Justice: A few months later, he lost his job, all his friends either left or he turned them away, everything sucks forever.
@Zoe-hb2oj
@Zoe-hb2oj 3 жыл бұрын
@@DuelaDent52 Dual Destinies: Yay Edgeworth became a Chief Prosecutor and helped me get my badge back, now I can forget everything that I suffered through and become the same, dorky protagonist I was!! That's why I dislike Dual Destinies as a sequel to Apollo Justice. Standing alone? Pretty good imo. Sequel to Apollo Justice? You completely tore Phoenix's character apart.
@eggi4443
@eggi4443 7 ай бұрын
​@@Zoe-hb2oj AJ is the culprit here, not DD
@AlphaSpectre84
@AlphaSpectre84 3 жыл бұрын
I misread this as "why did Phoenix Wright become a himbo" Just shows where my minds at...
@Shindenize
@Shindenize 3 жыл бұрын
Well, Phoenix, before being a lawyer, was a massive himbo.
@JacksMelancholy
@JacksMelancholy 3 жыл бұрын
Can’t blame you.
@ellagage1256
@ellagage1256 3 жыл бұрын
"Wait Phoenix is a himbo?" "Always has been" 🔫
@12hoursTheReal
@12hoursTheReal 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been reading this as the title for months, and didn’t realize I was reading it wrong until you pointed it out
@aikikaname6508
@aikikaname6508 3 жыл бұрын
What do you mean become?
@StomeAura
@StomeAura 3 жыл бұрын
Phoenix: Trucy! Thanks to you giving me forged evidence, I lost my badge! Trucy: I want to join your new agency Phoenix: understandable, have a nice day
@michaelar9954
@michaelar9954 3 жыл бұрын
to be fair trucy did mention that she was given the evidence and told to give it to phoenix, so I think phoenix knew that it wasn't her fault
@suckerman7gm
@suckerman7gm 3 жыл бұрын
I mean, Trucy was 8 years old, and she likely thought anything given to her daddy's lawyer could let him win the case. She wouldn't know that.
@grosebud4721
@grosebud4721 3 жыл бұрын
@@suckerman7gm agreed. Trucy is my baby and I will not have this slander on her innocent adorable name.
@fohb7291
@fohb7291 2 жыл бұрын
she was child + trucy is his daughter
@tarotsushima3332
@tarotsushima3332 Жыл бұрын
If you were eight years old with your only living relative on trial and someone gives you something that they say is gonna help them be found innocent, wouldn't you do it?
@jas8288
@jas8288 3 жыл бұрын
hobo-mentor-father phoenix is the best thing that ever happened to this series... its strange, seeing him grow up. we see college feenie in t&t, rookie lawyer phoenix, dorky but confident lawyer,, jaded phoenix, and my favourite: fatherly phoenix. his relationship with trucy and apollo, and his love for them is so clear... that part where he said trucy was his light... it made me tear up
@Rattman_4126
@Rattman_4126 2 жыл бұрын
The thing I really like about Phoenix in AJ is that even tho Phoenix became a bleak copy of himself, he NEVER gave up. And then he cornered *that spoiler guy* with falsified evidence and Apollo after trial caught him on it he responded simply with: "Well, I'm not a lawyer anymore." But damn, this move was good! Noone else, except Apollo and *spoiler guy* could tell that this evidence was fake, but *spoiler guy* couldn't said it loud, because it was another way of proving his guilt. At the same time it was a message from Phoenix to him, like "I know you the one who did this to me, here's your own medicine." And THEN, later you learn that ALL SEVEN YEARS Phoenix was collecting evidence and connecting dots together for this moment.
@notme8652
@notme8652 3 жыл бұрын
*Phoenix tries a new Fashion Style* Everyone: Omg he is a hobo now😭😭😭
@lucianaxd4337
@lucianaxd4337 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah right? I was wondering why they called him a hobo, if I understand that he has a place to live and also adopted trucy (and yes, I have not played apollo justice yet)
@t.h.9944
@t.h.9944 3 жыл бұрын
I can’t be the only person that thinks that hobo Phoenix Wright looks hot this way. Like the scruff is super attractive with the smug attitude. The confidence is *chef’s kiss*. Him playing cards and having the status of being never being beaten is super cool, although he’s only unbeaten cause of Trucy but still. Plus he still our cute Phoenix Wright at the end.
@weirdcat8373
@weirdcat8373 3 жыл бұрын
He has bedroom eyes ffs. Of course he's hot. Capcom knew what they were doing.
@abandonpride1589
@abandonpride1589 3 жыл бұрын
@@weirdcat8373 this isn't even a bruh moment what in the unholy
@weirdcat8373
@weirdcat8373 3 жыл бұрын
@@abandonpride1589 Oh shut up. Just look at him. He's hot. No arguments. Not even as a joke.
@abandonpride1589
@abandonpride1589 3 жыл бұрын
@@weirdcat8373 This is why we can't have nice things
@weirdcat8373
@weirdcat8373 3 жыл бұрын
@@abandonpride1589 Oh go dry up.
@ju2tunknown
@ju2tunknown 3 жыл бұрын
Me: hears the P4 intro Also me: Is this the Wright video?
@2K4Studio
@2K4Studio 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe you should've Apollo-gize for that Payneful pun
@SuperBuscaminas
@SuperBuscaminas 3 жыл бұрын
Something is not Wright.
@susamogus8331
@susamogus8331 3 жыл бұрын
@@2K4Studio OK that's stretching it a bit too far, maybe a miles
@xero9ravity150
@xero9ravity150 3 жыл бұрын
y'all need to stop XD
@susamogus8331
@susamogus8331 3 жыл бұрын
@@xero9ravity150 O Kay. If you insist, Karma is gonna catch up with us anyway for all these Badd puns
@bubblewrap8823
@bubblewrap8823 3 жыл бұрын
Huh, perhaps it was just how young I was at the time, but I never even saw a problem with Phoenix’s story, other than that it made me sad because a tragedy happened to a beloved character.
@thomoclock
@thomoclock 3 жыл бұрын
Phoenix was definitely an important character to me growing up. I spent a lot of my childhood lurking around the Court-Records forums, making fan art, playing fan-cases, and even trying to make my own lol. He was definitely written to be a relatable character, him being your clumsy average guy that eventually, through hard work and a bit of luck, becomes a legend of his own making. Equally though, I think Phoenix going through rough patches in life was something that was important to see as well. I think it was interesting how they knocked him down in Apollo Justice, but preserved his integrity by making him wiser and turning him into a mentor figure. There were so many ways they could've done him dirty here -- make him evil, make him insane, etc. -- but to me I feel like this progression made sense. Stepping into the mentor role was really the next logical thing for him. This was my favorite version of Phoenix. Experienced, wise, but humbled. It made him feel more rounded as a human to me. A nice reminder that life isn't always happy. Of course, I always expected Phoenix to bounce and get his badge back, and I hoped this would be the case for the next game, but I didn't expect them to do it off-screen. I felt robbed watching the trailer for Dual Destinies for the first time. Much less for Apollo, but more for Phoenix's character progression. He did a full 180, and in between games too. We didn't even get to see it. He's just back, goofy as ever, as if nothing ever happened. I think it would've been much more interesting if Phoenix got his badge back within the course of the game, maybe as the last case, would've been a great empowering moment. And I think that bringing back Phoenix the way they had in Dual Destinies jeopardized the chance of fleshing out the new protagonists of the game by taking away the spotlight. Instead, they had to shoehorn in a new sob story for Apollo every time he made an appearance. Dead mom but-secretly-isn't backstory. Dead best friend backstory. Dead father backstory. And then the _other_ other protagonist has an actual dead mom. I feel like having to juggle around 3 protagonists hurt the series, given that each game is still only limited to 5 episodes, and the writing suffered for it. So yeah. My feelings about Wright is complicated. Kinda wish they could retcon the past 2 games
@JacksMelancholy
@JacksMelancholy 3 жыл бұрын
I agree that following Phoenix on his journey back to being a defense attorney would have been fantastic. Not many stories explore a character's fall from grace as well as Apollo Justice did.
@omegatone4557
@omegatone4557 2 жыл бұрын
okay we get it, phoenix is one for your favorite MC’s
@xollefi7418
@xollefi7418 3 жыл бұрын
the personal anecdote at the beginning was adorable. i got into ace attorney at a young age, and the characters have still stuck with me ever since. i used to think phoenix in the first game was a cool, mature old man, and now i'm nearly his age.
@JacksMelancholy
@JacksMelancholy 3 жыл бұрын
Likewise. It’s surreal to think how much time has passed and how much of a profound impact this series had on me. Glad I’m not alone, ha ha.
@ivanbackfromthecardshop8093
@ivanbackfromthecardshop8093 4 жыл бұрын
It's been a while and my memory isn't great so it's quite possible my opinion changed but I remember liking him. In concept it's really cool. I wish he had a game or two more in this position though. Not only could that help out with the apollo and athena problem giving a bit more time without him in the spotlight but imagine how much of a god tier moment it could be for Phoenix to come back to the court and save the day after multiple games instead of just popping up imdeatly in the tutorial of the very next game while not even being that absent in the prior one.
@AnalogNoise
@AnalogNoise 3 жыл бұрын
I'm treating AJ as the darkest game in the main series, not only because of the case details but also the soundtrack.
@yunaneomi
@yunaneomi 3 жыл бұрын
even though dd was the only one with the M rating
@AnalogNoise
@AnalogNoise 3 жыл бұрын
@@yunaneomi the M rating was probably issued because of (case 5 spoilers) athena taking her mother apart
@valarmis
@valarmis 3 жыл бұрын
One note to make it a little darker, none of the defendants are fully innocent, phoenix offered illegal evidence (the card) and used Trucy to cheat at poker, Wocky was an active gang member (who was in a really dark situation, I actually turnabout corner I don't understand the hate), Machi was a smuggler, and Vera was a forger
@mr.shkrimtar2870
@mr.shkrimtar2870 3 жыл бұрын
also the artstyle was drastically changed and felt like you were in a different universe from the OG ace attorney
@PlushyKid
@PlushyKid 4 жыл бұрын
I love the ace attorney games! Glad to see that the community is still thriving
@JacksMelancholy
@JacksMelancholy 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your support. 🎶 Let’s hope this is a good year for Ace Attorney.
@zhengwenyu1587
@zhengwenyu1587 3 жыл бұрын
With Apollo Justice being my first game and then onto the Trilogy, it felt like I was playing an epic prequel, seeing the rise of a veteran before the fall
@sesilliasandra2820
@sesilliasandra2820 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to see hobo-Phoenix in the anime! And if the Capcom do make it, don't forget about the amazing music and the cheesy-ness!
@suckerman7gm
@suckerman7gm 3 жыл бұрын
I just hope if there will be a Season 3 of Ace Attorney anime, I just want Apollo Justice's arc to be covered. (Possibly the first game and maybe Dual Destinies)
@MildeAmasoj
@MildeAmasoj 4 жыл бұрын
Apollo Justice is one of my favorite games. I love Phoenix, and I love how he changed because of what happened in those 7 years. What I really didn’t like is that they introduced Athena just one game after Apollo. They didn’t give Apollo the time to shine. Dual Destinies is my least favorite game in the franchise, but Capcom once again redeemed itself in my eyes with Spirit of Justice, which kind of managed to balance having three main characters. Fans will never stop asking for old favorites to appear, so I wonder how that’s gonna work in the future, given there’s so many characters now.
@JacksMelancholy
@JacksMelancholy 3 жыл бұрын
You make an excellent point. It was a little demeaning to set Apollo up as the new series protagonist just to sideline him in Dual Destinies. That’s a topic I’d like to discuss in depth and perhaps I will someday.
@x-rax716
@x-rax716 3 жыл бұрын
Spirit of justice didn't balance. They nerfed Athena and Phoenix HARD and gave Apollo crazy plot armour.
@lenarratorsocietyofsuperio2731
@lenarratorsocietyofsuperio2731 3 жыл бұрын
@@x-rax716 Lmao Athena only have one case as a lead defense in each game
@blaze41
@blaze41 3 жыл бұрын
@@lenarratorsocietyofsuperio2731 not to mention athena didnt even have an investigation phase in soj
@xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx
@xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx 3 жыл бұрын
@@blaze41 I think the reason why Athena can't do investigations is because Blackquill is already the witness she needed. All that she has to do is to use the evidence presented by the prosecution against them at the courthouse. She is merely just a stand-in for the agency at the America because of Apollo is being busy watching over Trucy in her Magic Show, Phoenix is still busy defending Maya in Khura'in as usual, and also Athena not knowing the case she's handling because of it being so foreign doesn't help her in the slightest.
@Bearman851
@Bearman851 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly this just makes me want Phoenix in Smash Bros. more.
@JacksMelancholy
@JacksMelancholy 3 жыл бұрын
One of the only characters I'd have a heart attack over, for sure.
@misterwj9352
@misterwj9352 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, if ya like there’s marvel vs capcom 3 till they add him in smash.
@deneshwdolie4691
@deneshwdolie4691 2 жыл бұрын
Is he gonna do his "OBJECTION" to everybody?
@shinysparce3708
@shinysparce3708 3 жыл бұрын
Hobo Phoenix is my favorite character in the franchise. Hobo Phoenix SPECIFICALLY. He’s such a badass. (Not that he’s not a badass before but you know what I mean) Hobo Phoenix cemented Phoenix as my favorite character in video game history.
@PixelStun
@PixelStun 4 жыл бұрын
Great video as always! Completely can relate to the childish antics of shouting "objection" in school. AJAA characterisation of wright definitely rubbed me the wrong way at first, but I can understand that's just his character growth throughout the lows of the 7 years.
@JacksMelancholy
@JacksMelancholy 4 жыл бұрын
Much obliged. Glad I wasn’t the only one. (//∇//)
@azurneon
@azurneon 3 жыл бұрын
I say OBJECTION! everytime at school as well!
@Heidijackward
@Heidijackward 3 жыл бұрын
Miles is proven to submit false evidence His boss:aw your okay Phoenix Wright:submit one bit false evidence probably by accident The law:YOU ARE FIRED AND YOHR WORK PLACE IS SHUT DOWN FOR GOOD QND YOUR NAME IS RUIND AND WILL NEVER WORK AS A DEFENCE IS OVER FOR EVER
@dready8192
@dready8192 4 жыл бұрын
Damn, i love this VIdeo so much. I didn't go through the series in order - basically went from 1-3 then 5-6 and subsequently went back and played 4. Which i strangely enjoyed more, than i hoped for. I've seen your last video on Apollo Justice and became concerned myself. But having seen what Phoenix and Apollo went through in 5-6, the forth entry felt kind of like a prequel well-deserved.
@JacksMelancholy
@JacksMelancholy 4 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate your comment, thank you. Subsequent entries in the series did make me feel less depressed about Phoenix’s situation in the fourth game.
@edenlambaco5721
@edenlambaco5721 3 жыл бұрын
Omg same!!!
@kokobean5921
@kokobean5921 3 жыл бұрын
During the flashback of that case, it was so hard to get through, I teared up and had to pause it I don’t know how many times because I knew it was coming. As sad as it is, it’s true. Bad things do happen to good people, that’s just the way life is. And I also love how Phoenix matured through those seven years. I don’t think I would have it any other way, it can’t be happily ever after, because life isn’t always happily ever after.
@moosesues8887
@moosesues8887 3 жыл бұрын
Bruh we ain’t supposed to exist lmao
@lordpumpkinhead265
@lordpumpkinhead265 3 жыл бұрын
@@moosesues8887 The hell does this have to do with what he said?
@fohb7291
@fohb7291 2 жыл бұрын
Well im pretty sure phoenix Wright was still happy after he stopped being a lawer and he is not even an actual hobo either
@akoisha
@akoisha 2 жыл бұрын
It's just so personal to me I was in such shock and disbelief I unironically through the stages of grief.
@egzystencja.1755
@egzystencja.1755 3 жыл бұрын
miles: *used forged evidence and knew about it* judge: i sleep wright: *used forged evidence and didn't know bout that* judge: real shit
@alishaanimations3058
@alishaanimations3058 3 жыл бұрын
Miles hasn’t forged 😩
@DN_123
@DN_123 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine if hobo Phoenix confronted with Godot?
@hydratedgraph2486
@hydratedgraph2486 3 жыл бұрын
Godot's probably executed by that time.
@HankJWimbIeton
@HankJWimbIeton 3 жыл бұрын
@@hydratedgraph2486 so is godot in hell or heaven?
@nevergonnagiveyouup1853
@nevergonnagiveyouup1853 3 жыл бұрын
@@hydratedgraph2486 i think he's not executed i think a sentence would suit him
@suckerman7gm
@suckerman7gm 3 жыл бұрын
@im not dead i just don't do stuff He would be surprised to see what happened to Phoenix, because Godot respected him by the end, after seeing Mia was living on through him. If Godot was alive by any chance, I hope he would've at least supported Phoenix morally.
@suckerman7gm
@suckerman7gm 3 жыл бұрын
@Dark Funny thing you mentioned her: When she first talked to Phoenix, she said give it three years and then see where you are. It took 3 years exactly from that speech until his disbarment.
@SamE-mh4ki
@SamE-mh4ki 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with what you said completely! I think that a lot of how calm and collected Phoenix seems when playing as Apollo is indeed Apollo idolizing him. Surely, this lawyer that he’s been looking up to for years seems godlike to him. (Also we can’t see Phoenix’s panicky internal dialogue)
@demy1393
@demy1393 3 жыл бұрын
This. If we don't know what he's thinking, we're left with what he lets us see
@Zoe-hb2oj
@Zoe-hb2oj 3 жыл бұрын
It's pretty much the same with every protagonist lmao. When we see Edgeworth/Phoenix/Apollo with the other's POV without internal monologue, they seem like they figured the whole thing out,super smug. But when we play as them, they get 10x dumber.
@star-crossedallies3667
@star-crossedallies3667 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like Apollo didn’t really get his own game. The Apollo justice ace attorney, it did follow the story of Apollo sure but it was mostly figuring out what happened 7 years ago. And we even play as pheonix once, I’m either waiting a game that’s more about Apollo, or at least a dlc or something from the upcoming 2021 game.
@qwertylerqw3
@qwertylerqw3 3 жыл бұрын
Me too! The ending of SoJ sets it up perfectly as well. The next installment could fluidly be centered around AJ.
@elementalgabe7860
@elementalgabe7860 2 жыл бұрын
I love ace attorney, it has inspired me to go to law school once I finish college so I can become a prosecutor. I am starting an internship at a law firm in a few weeks and I’m so glad I found this game. Wish me luck everyone!
@BatteryChargingMaster
@BatteryChargingMaster 2 жыл бұрын
Wish ya luck
@kiddi3104
@kiddi3104 8 ай бұрын
When you become a prosecutor please don't let a Parrot get a cross examination
@Salalazai
@Salalazai Ай бұрын
How's it going now man?
@ghk128
@ghk128 3 жыл бұрын
Hobo Phoenix and Apollo are the biggest hotties in this series, and even knowing all the plotholes, I love revisiting AA4 because of the darker tone and cast of characters. Like AA4-1 is one of the best cases in the series and it's a tutorial! And the music omg Sorry I'm just going to hang out in my corner as AA4's only superfan
@JacksMelancholy
@JacksMelancholy 3 жыл бұрын
It's certainly impressive how it turns a tutorial case into one of the most interesting in the game.
@melaniebryn2553
@melaniebryn2553 3 жыл бұрын
What you described from your earlier days of falling in love with the series sounds so much like what I’ve been going through over the past year. The difference is that one might say I’m a little too old for such “childish” hyperfixations (just turned 31), but I’ve never in my life been so completely taken with a fandom like this one. You had your blue suits and your beanie; I’ve got my pink “Feenie” sweatshirt, plus 6 other AA-themed t-shirts, and various other memorabilia. It influenced your decision to move to Japan; I’m considering law school. It’s just nice to stumble across someone who “gets” it. As for the rest of the video, I love Phoenix’s transformation between AA3 and AA4. I think it adds a certain amount of gravitas to his character arc - like you said, life doesn’t always go so perfectly. But Phoenix reacts as many a complex human would, becoming just a bit rough & jaded around the edges, but at the same time growing and learning, and deep down still retaining his core beliefs in pursuing the truth and that justice will ultimately prevail. And then, even though it wasn’t handled perfectly (as I commented on your other video), it makes his his triumphant return in Dual Destinies all the more rewarding. Ugh, these characters are just so well-written!
@JacksMelancholy
@JacksMelancholy 3 жыл бұрын
It’s never too late to love something, especially a series as inspirational as the Ace Attorney series. (・∀・) If it moves you to pursue a goal in your life, don’t be ashamed to go ahead.
@ikwenmusic
@ikwenmusic 5 ай бұрын
3:45 he now stands here as your client, accused of *M U H D U H*
@Zettai_gema
@Zettai_gema 6 күн бұрын
Hahahaha
@chevgage6210
@chevgage6210 3 жыл бұрын
In order for fans to even give Apollo a chance at the time, Phoenix had to be in there. I also feel Phoenix top tier trolling the poor kid while helping to build him up is also a reflection of the attitude of the fans towards him before ultimately warming up to him, which was genius. If you removed Phoenix from the entire story and only had brand new characters? I feel this game would have tanked. Setting a good transition and allowing loyal fans to Phoenix to adjust and accept these transitions paved the way for Capcom to be able to do more with the series - such as the Chronicle games we're about to get Switch ports of. C:
@JacksMelancholy
@JacksMelancholy 3 жыл бұрын
In retrospect, it does seem like Phoenix’s inclusion was a way to help transition to Apollo, however I feel the execution alienated a lot of long time AA fans after the journey Phoenix went on.
@kallum39
@kallum39 3 жыл бұрын
8:00 THAT PERSONA 4 MUSIC KICKED IN SO WELL
@Jev_the_fluorescent_shrimp
@Jev_the_fluorescent_shrimp Жыл бұрын
Depression era Phoenix was interesting, but i was infinitely glad he managed to go back to being a lawyer and to his old self in DD and SoJ. I don't agree that it "nullifies his development". It's just natural healing process, that's all. He deserves to be back
@charliecox2452
@charliecox2452 3 жыл бұрын
I'm happy to know that I wasn't the only one who made his own version of the Phoenix's hat hahahaha
@DinoBoy4544
@DinoBoy4544 2 жыл бұрын
"Why Did Phoenix Wright Become a Hobo?" Von Karma, just Von Karma.
@Emakka_notebook
@Emakka_notebook 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that you made his own hat 😭 I loved that so much
@JacksMelancholy
@JacksMelancholy 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you did; some people would call it an unhealthy obsession with a fictional lawyer, ha ha.
@silvergrace8702
@silvergrace8702 3 жыл бұрын
The opinions which you began with in the beginning of this video and the impact that the trilogy had on you was relatable to an extreme. I have been trying to express my love for the game and convincing more and more people to get in the franchise because the scripts, characters and the music is so good that it should deserve more and more recognition even if it's two decades old. The evolution of Phoenix in the span of 7 years felt reasonable to me, and I accepted what was given to me almost immediately because I could feel the emotional trauma which disbarment would have caused to Phoenix. I find myself agreeing to your opinions on that matter as well. Great video, I totally enjoyed watching it.
@JacksMelancholy
@JacksMelancholy 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you kindly. I'm glad I'm not the only one who felt a strong connection to Phoenix's story.
@NotTheWheel
@NotTheWheel 2 жыл бұрын
Your closing statement reminds me of myself so I hope you remain impassioned forever. This was a great video :)
@JacksMelancholy
@JacksMelancholy 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot, I really appreciate your support. (╹◡╹)
@UFORelaxo
@UFORelaxo 3 жыл бұрын
To be honest I was taken back by what they did to Phoenix, but it was a really good idea. And even though Apollo didn’t get a true sequel I still consider Spirit of Justice the Apollo sequel.
@bforbrave833
@bforbrave833 Жыл бұрын
i hit the thumbs up button after all those photos you posted in the beginning because you seem like a true fan and that's awesome to me. love the custom hobonick beanie you made hahaha
@JacksMelancholy
@JacksMelancholy Жыл бұрын
Aww, thanks a million. ( ・∇・)
@CoolCarGuy
@CoolCarGuy 4 жыл бұрын
I do really enjoy Phoenix's characterization in Apollo Justice as well, but there has always been one thing that irks me about the "why" as the game follows Phoenix up from Trials and Tribulations that I feel I'm the only person who has that perspective and I feel I'm missing something. Game 3 makes a clear contrast between Phoenix and Godot of one who fought on from adversity to take on the mantle and the other who ran away after tragedy struck and hid behind himself and a layer of arrogance and excuses for his own sorrow. At the end of the game, Phoenix proves Godot wrong and Mia and Godot essentially encourage Phoenix to continue being a harbinger of truth and justice to those in need that Phoenix has grown into that position over the games. But then AJ comes along and Phoenix basically does a similar situation as Godot: running away from his role after hitting a road bump. Yes he was "disbarred" but lawyers have gotten away with lying, fabricating, and murder and didn't get as harsh as being disbarred for one fabricated evidence Phoenix had no involvement in. It characterizes that Phoenix toyed with the dark side and lost but he didn't and he didn't try and fight back like he usually does, instead conceding in losing his badge and taking care of Trucy. DD makes it worse because he has no trouble getting his badge back and still somehow has the power to rig a whole court system despite his "disbarment" Maybe he wanted to take on that fatherly, more laid back lifestyle but again he is abandoning his pride and joy. I feel there is just too much in-between time from Game 3 and Game 4 that this doesn't seem like a logical transition considering he lost his badge only months after Bridge to the Turnabout only presumably to establish that time shift or grown up Trucy. I must be missing something but I feel there is just gaps in the transition that, while personality wise still retains Phoenix as Phoenix but much more mature, but timeline and moral-wise feels contradictory to the ending of AA3. Turnabouting the original trilogy still needs some kind of connection. But I feel I'm missing some kind of connection or something because I feel I'm the only one with this issue with AJ. Maybe it's just I really enjoy the og trilogy and its charm despite my enjoyment for the spinoffs and sequals? I have no idea
@JacksMelancholy
@JacksMelancholy 3 жыл бұрын
You’re not the only person who feels that way. The difference in character is abrupt, rightfully shocking anyway playing the series in chronological order. It was an unfortunate side effect of insisting Phoenix be in the game. There’s not a doubt in my mind that there was room to flesh out events surrounding all the characters involved.
@shinysparce3708
@shinysparce3708 3 жыл бұрын
Here are my thoughts on this: You say Phoenix ran away after this mishap and didn’t fight back, I completely disagree. This entire game is nothing but Phoenix fighting back, it’s just hard to see when you aren’t in his shoes. Case one, he gets kristoph in jail, more out of opportunity than anything, but we know later he knows Kristoph was the one who forged evidence, and replaying the first case with this knowledge makes the dialogue between Phoenix and Kristoph have entirely different meaning. The second case, Phoenix doesn’t seem to have much impact on the case, but we know later he’s actually training Apollo’s ability, so that he’ll be ready for the final case. The third case, is, well, bad, but we also know that while we’re solving the murder, Phoenix is collecting evidence from the present, talking to Valant and Brushel, etc etc. and, hopefully obviously, in the fourth case, all his planning for the last seven years all comes to a single point, and we watch how his plan unfolds and he gets his badge back. Phoenix is constantly fighting back, he just pretends he’s given up.
@bandicootsmwcentral2950
@bandicootsmwcentral2950 3 жыл бұрын
My biggest issue with Apollo Justice is the time gap too, I felt that 7 years was way too much of a time skip. I think that if it had been only 2 or 3 years skiped yet the same plot was kept the player wouldve had been even more surprised at his transformation. Like what the heck, what happened to him in only 2 years? in 7 years lots of thing can happen to change us in 2 years not so much so I think it would have been much more impactiful.
@shinysparce3708
@shinysparce3708 3 жыл бұрын
@@bandicootsmwcentral2950 again, I completely disagree. Because we know Phoenix doesn’t run away from his problems, as was shown in trials and tribulations, we realize that Phoenix went seven years without being able to solve whatever problem lost him his badge, so what could be so terrible that made him go seven years trying to get it back?
@nooralamgir3703
@nooralamgir3703 3 жыл бұрын
I feel the same.
@oshonejustice9199
@oshonejustice9199 3 жыл бұрын
Kristoph after reading the title : " Coughs, Coughs ".
@thecabbageman1
@thecabbageman1 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I am in a peculiar position regarding this matter. You see, Apollo Justice was my first game so I had no prior attachement to Phoenix. Which is a double edged sword because on the one hand, it allows me to see this more clearly without the bias of a fan who spent 3 games getting to know Phoenix and relating to him. I can approach it logically, not emotionally. At the same time, a different kind of bias may exist, one which I favor Hobo Phoenix over the classic one because he was my first Phoenix Either way though. I think it was brilliant writing. Not only because it fits Apollo Justice's main theme, the conflict between identity and what others see you as, but also because he feels like a natural conclusion. Someone as naive as Phoenix who always sees the good in others, was bound to be tricked by someone else in the cruel world of law he became a part. Someone self serving. And he needed to be hardened. Which is what his disbarement did His personality is also clever. Because as you pointed out it is a mix of a facade and Phoenix's sarcastic inner thoughts becoming externalized Either way we look at it though, I think we can all agree that dual destinies putting him on front and shitting on AJ's story was a mistake
@yoursonisold8743
@yoursonisold8743 10 ай бұрын
I love how hobo has just become a fashion style by now. After all Phoenix is neither homeless nor jobless across those 7 years. I And yet people stll wiithout hesitation call him a hobo. It's great.
@L0rdOfThePies
@L0rdOfThePies 3 жыл бұрын
Hm, I've only gotten to the second case and I actually really love apollo! He's not like phoenix, really goofy and socially awkward and I think I like him because he's so relatable and if I was in his situation I'd be fucking terrified too! Imagine youre on your first official trial and then your defendant accuses your mentor of being the murderer and they have a whole ass feud you got dragged into for no reason other than phoenix wanted you to be his defense attorney
@JacksMelancholy
@JacksMelancholy 3 жыл бұрын
Apollo is cool and he comes into his own even more in subsequent entries.
@littlemisshero5447
@littlemisshero5447 2 жыл бұрын
I just got into the Ace Attorney games and I’m so upset they took such a bright future away from Phoenix ; did Phoenix know the evidence was forged? I am really happy to see a more confident Phoenix and something I love about him is that no matter what happens he always tries to stay happy and hopeful.
@naolocked
@naolocked 3 жыл бұрын
I finished the first 3 games, but I couldn’t play Apollo Justice because I was scared… I knew Nick was gonna show up in the game but he seemed so different that it’s gonna break the image of him that I loved. But after watching this video I think I wanna give it a try! Thank u :D
@kitkatmuffin
@kitkatmuffin 3 жыл бұрын
For a second I forgot I clicked on an Ace Attorney video and was fully ready to hear some Persona 4 analysis after that intro
@RelixKnight
@RelixKnight 3 жыл бұрын
"Dingy Bar" **zooms in on payne**
@anxhelovucinaj1576
@anxhelovucinaj1576 4 жыл бұрын
The legend is back
@killamassager5748
@killamassager5748 3 жыл бұрын
It really does break my heart seeing him no longer a attorney but at least we see him again
@JacksMelancholy
@JacksMelancholy 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty much how I felt playing the game for the first time. Took me a while to get over. Future games certainly helped.
@killamassager5748
@killamassager5748 3 жыл бұрын
@@JacksMelancholy I just figure this out but I think he become a defense attorney again somewhere in one of the cases
@KufLMAO
@KufLMAO Жыл бұрын
“At least that’s what the dialogue box says” The dialogue box: ? ? ?
@johntuffly1788
@johntuffly1788 2 жыл бұрын
I can't wait for the new season of Better call Pheonix
@jujucc8154
@jujucc8154 3 жыл бұрын
My ringtone is the steel samurai theme, my sister's ringtone is The Guitar's Serenade.
@ThePrimeMinisterOfTheBlock
@ThePrimeMinisterOfTheBlock 2 жыл бұрын
He lost his mind when he found out how Maya manipulated him into helping her usurp the position of Master
@fiestofelix4455
@fiestofelix4455 2 жыл бұрын
In my case I've first played Apollo Justice , then the Ace Attorney trilogy... What a mind blowing ride it was...
@nicoloenricorimoldi7425
@nicoloenricorimoldi7425 2 жыл бұрын
I know it’s controversial, but I love this version of the character. Trials and Tribulations was the ending for Phoenix’s story in the trilogy, so if he were to return in a sequel it would be necessary to give him a new role to take as a character. Even if Phoenix’s inclusion was forced by outside agents, Takumi pulled it off excellently by putting him in a different context, showing us the changes that his disbarment brought him (while adding to his moral ambiguity) and his relationships with the new cast. He works amazingly as a father to Trucy (showing a side of him we only saw a glimpse of through Pearl) and he has an interesting and a bit rocky mentor-student relationship with Apollo. Some of the moments we get to see in the final case of the game are some of the most poignant his character has ever went through, and they confirm that the Phoenix we know and love is still there under all the mystery. I also enjoy how much wiser and mature he has gotten with time, and how he has to deal with challenges that aren’t related to court proceedings or defending a client. This is the lesson the sequels to this game forgot when bringing back the character, and they ended up having to contrive situations to make Phoenix feel threatened.
@Outshinedsg
@Outshinedsg 3 жыл бұрын
Oh, one other thing that bothered me about Apollo Justice: where were Phoenix's friends at after Phoenix got disbarred and his life fell apart for while? It's been a while since I played the game so I could be mistaken, but I believe Maya and Edgeworth are almost entirely absent from the plot, when it seems like they would absolutely have something to say one way or another about Phoenix's new life direction. I'm sure there's a canonical reason for it now but it felt like a major shortcoming in the plot.
@JacksMelancholy
@JacksMelancholy 3 жыл бұрын
It’s a little crazy that no one was there for him. Something Dual Destinies tried to rectify a little by suggesting Edgeworth was the one who brought Phoenix back into the legal world.
@CT-Irodion
@CT-Irodion 2 жыл бұрын
FCKING YES! I’ve been saying that for ages! Why did it take so long for Phoenix’s friends to appear a game and two later? Why not just a quick mention of where they are? Phoenix gets disbarred but we get no reaction from his friends. How does Miles feel about the person who defended him and inspired him to follow his father’s dream of defending people? What about Mia who taught him to be a lawyer? What about Maya and Pearl who were like younger sisters Phoenix never had? Larry? Franziska? Iris? How would she feel the person she thought she betrayed for years only for him to forgive her was taken away of his job and became a father? Why was this so hard to include? It didn’t have to be a lot. Just something!
@Son-Goku1227
@Son-Goku1227 8 ай бұрын
NO WAY THE INTRO WAS PERSONA 4 BRO! I LOVE THAT GAME!!!
@razdahooman
@razdahooman Жыл бұрын
When I first played Apollo Justice, I loved the new Phoenix. I knew that he had changed and was curious to see how. I realized very quickly that he was putting on a show when I saw his smug smile sprite because it's just such a Wright thing to do.
@EmaSkyesWife
@EmaSkyesWife 5 ай бұрын
i was so livid when i found out he got disbarred for presenting forged evidence because DIDN'T EDGEWORTH DO THE SAME SHIT?
@JacksMelancholy
@JacksMelancholy 5 ай бұрын
@@EmaSkyesWife That he did, ha ha.
@AwkwardBunny0522
@AwkwardBunny0522 2 ай бұрын
"Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney" became my passion in mid 2024. I discovered the series and became obsessed with the characters and stories..."
@Shawno625
@Shawno625 3 жыл бұрын
Well at least phoenix learns to play hot cross buns on piano
@alioda_
@alioda_ 4 жыл бұрын
I loved Phoenix's story in Apollo Justice, it just felt like something that Shu Takumi would do you know. For me, Phoenix and Apollo are like Goku and Gohan from Dragon Ball Z. Akira Toriyama wanted in the past to end Goku's story so that he could focus on Gohan's future as protector of the earth, he had so many ideas about it but the fans never liked that idea. And since then Goku became a character that is just here for the money, a character that is just here to please fans. I feel the same thing with Phoenix here. Shu wanted to focus on a new character but the fans and Capcom were like " Nope. Phoenix should always be the main protagonist " So here we are today, with Shu who left the main character story to focus for the past few years on DGS1&2, games that are not intended to the entire world but with a story that is worth the title of game of the year. But the thing is that, the main story game just doesn't feel the same now. Different writers, different directors, different way of using character like Phoenix and Apollo.
@JacksMelancholy
@JacksMelancholy 4 жыл бұрын
That’s an excellent comparison, plus I couldn’t agree more that Capcom insisting Phoenix be included has only restricted the series. Different writers using the same characters can work well in fiction, however in a lot of ways, Phoenix Wright IS Shu Takumi.
@chbuki
@chbuki 2 жыл бұрын
I *LOVE* the Apollo Justice entry. It’s so jam packed with lore and “Dark Phoenix” was never a problem for me, because we see throughout and by the end of the game that he’s still good old Nick. Just on a mission to try and fix the broken system. I love Apollo. I love Trucy. I love the whole Troupe Gramarye story. 😂😂
@racersolid9443
@racersolid9443 3 жыл бұрын
Its always weird playing him in dual destinies as a lawyer,Phoenix in aj is a chill calculated man with a plan and has many cards under his sleeves, but in dd he nearly become his old self, and it doesnt feel like the case is under control when he take over the case,its Chaos All over again(which is fine).
@TheLightSaga
@TheLightSaga 4 жыл бұрын
Who else wants the last 3 phoenix weight games remastered on Switch?
@mega289
@mega289 3 жыл бұрын
Me, oh my god. Me.
@iambread2914
@iambread2914 3 жыл бұрын
am I the only one who wants it 2D remastered?
@skulorao4143
@skulorao4143 3 жыл бұрын
@@iambread2914 That’d be very difficult to do with all the investigation scenes in DD and SoJ but the idea is nevertheless cool
@lordironhidex
@lordironhidex 3 жыл бұрын
I'd buy it ASAP
@Concerned_Custodian
@Concerned_Custodian 3 жыл бұрын
I had autoplay on and when Pursing My True Self got cut off I was very upset
@lukehaywood-jennings1344
@lukehaywood-jennings1344 4 жыл бұрын
Guess who's back... back again 😎
@torri776
@torri776 3 жыл бұрын
TheStoryteller stopped making Ace Attorney videos (his last Ace Attorney video was made around half a year ago) to focus on The Boondocks and its' politics. I'm still subscribed to him, but now that I've found a consistent source of content for my favorite video game franchise of all time, I'm happy to have subscribed to you, Jack. Thank you for coming back.
@JacksMelancholy
@JacksMelancholy 3 жыл бұрын
I love Telly’s videos too; I’m sure he’ll make more about Ace Attorney in the future. ( ・∇・) I’m ridiculously flattered by your comment and can’t wait to share my thoughts on other aspects of the Ace Attorney series in the future. Thanks a million for your support. ✨
@AriesHolmes
@AriesHolmes 3 жыл бұрын
I relate to this video so much, I am profoundly affected by the ace attorney series that almost went into law school, so when the apollo justice came out, I felt exactly the way you did (I am so glad i finally found someone saying so) at first I didnt want to have anything to do with the game, and didnt play it for days but I wanted to know what happened to Phoenix so I did eventually play it. Suffice to say I still have mixed feelings about that game and their decision to make Phoenix into a Hobo even now
@JacksMelancholy
@JacksMelancholy 3 жыл бұрын
It seems to be a sentiment shared by many fans. Glad Phoenix came out on top, in the end.
@echoesman3439
@echoesman3439 3 жыл бұрын
Me, who did not know of the existence of Ace Attorney til a year ago and just stumbled into this video somehow: Wow this is interesting.
@2ori1012
@2ori1012 4 жыл бұрын
Love your vids, and know the feeling about passion that you talked about :) your kind of videos are rare and every ace attorney discussion video is blessed Thank you :)
@JacksMelancholy
@JacksMelancholy 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a million; all the comments have been so wholesome and I can’t thank you guys enough. I’m happy that others share the same passion I have for Ace Attorney.
@foolishkovane
@foolishkovane 3 жыл бұрын
Oh man, the quality of this video actually made me think this was a channel with 1 million subs or more. Really nice job!
@JacksMelancholy
@JacksMelancholy 3 жыл бұрын
That’s ridiculously kind of you to say, thanks a million. ✨ I don’t think I deserve even half the viewership this video’s received, but really, I appreciate the compliment.
@nemtudom5074
@nemtudom5074 2 жыл бұрын
I just want to say that i have never played the ace attorney games, watched the anime, or read the manga, but in my humble and independant opinion, there's a very good reason why all the videos that appear out of nowhere, include him, whereas basically nothing gets recommended without him I think he is the embodiment of Ace Attorney,
@kaoru288
@kaoru288 3 жыл бұрын
When Dual Destinies trailer was released and i saw Apollo donning some bandages and a coat, i thought hed do the hobo phoenix route and i was so stoked, after playing it for the first time years ago i was a bit disappointed it didnt entirely turn out that way
@Докторпарадокс
@Докторпарадокс 3 жыл бұрын
I actually liked Hobo Phoenix because noone is safe from accidents plus he became a scheming genius out for revenge While too jarring in contrast to trilogy Phoenix it was very refreshing for him to stop being a clown everyone disrespected and grow a pair to truly hammer home that he IS ACE ATTORNEY who was unjustly wronged and is ready to do anything to get justice for himself including forgery he was like: "I was already punished for forgery might as well use it to my advantage" I also loved how Phoenix became kind of the foil to Damon Gant who also forged evidence and used people with the difference that Phoenix does it to get justice served while Gant served his own ego My problem is actually future games in the series which straight up disregard everything that happened in AJ Phoenix again was a bluffing clown who was constantly mocked and made fun off which was awful When DD was out I grabbed it thinking: "Oh yeah what will prosecutors do against such a mature attorney who is not only as good as before if not more but on top of that can manipulate events and everyone around him to get the results and confessions he wants" But no they just brought back trilogy Phoenix but dumber who was mocked and made fun off again which was awful and they also added ANOTHER CHARACTER BEFORE THEY FINISHED DEVELOPING APOLLO AND IGNORED JURY SYSTEM COMPLETELY it was as if they wanted a soft reboot of the series and decided to sell original trilogy again while ignoring absolutely everything that happened in AJ
@fohb7291
@fohb7291 2 жыл бұрын
Why does everyone call him a hobo? He isn't homeless. If he was there would be no way he could have adobted trucy
@grafcharming5030
@grafcharming5030 3 жыл бұрын
Dude what is this video? 😃😃😃 Like 0:18 I felt it in my soul when you said that you had steel Samurai as your ringtone 😂 Me too, but the pitiful self recorded version from my ds to phone 😂 Just so iconic 👍 This video was amazing, your thoughts and feelings about this topic where well presented and I could follow them super easy and I agree on so many of them. I was shocked when I played the game the first time and saw Phoenix as a hobo but the part when you said he, because of all the things he had gone through is the true comeback king 👑 I screamed out of excitement Ngl 😆 7:53 I think the reason Phoenix is so loved is that he is a fundamentally charming and compassionate character. His sense of humor the way that he cares about people and his ambitions are just so inherently likeable that Apollo as Nice as he is just had a hard time standing up to the main character we all got to love in the original triology. And Phoenix also has the potential to bring out the the best in the people around him or change them in a unique way. Don’t get me wrong Apollo is a fine character in his own right. I enjoyed playing him and to compare them is difficult because they needed to be different to work. But yeah I don’t know Phoenix just has a special place in my heart and influenced me a lot when I grew up playing the games 😊 I love this series so dearly 🥰 You got yourself a new subscriber 😎👍
@JacksMelancholy
@JacksMelancholy 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a million for your comment, I’m glad I’m not the only one who tried to rock that ringtone, ha ha. You’re right. Phoenix is admirably compassionate and I think that’s something we’d all like to try and be a little more as an ideal version of ourselves.
@memedealer8851
@memedealer8851 Жыл бұрын
I really REALLY want this to be in the anime. and see this animated
@cheukyinglau8011
@cheukyinglau8011 Жыл бұрын
Me too!!!
@godot4898
@godot4898 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad Wright can protect the people he loves.
@JacksMelancholy
@JacksMelancholy 3 жыл бұрын
*sips coffee* You and me both.
@3toYT
@3toYT 4 жыл бұрын
This is an awesome video! How the heck are you not more famous?
@JacksMelancholy
@JacksMelancholy 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the sweet comment. Because I’m actually a talentless hobo myself.
@BM-13_KATYUSHA
@BM-13_KATYUSHA 2 жыл бұрын
Me, an ace attorney fan committing murder to go to court and meet Phoenix.
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