Mandela Catalogue Vol. 4

The mandela catalogue is back with it's biggest chapter so far
Original Video: • The Mandela Catalogue ...
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Edited By: / pixl_pit

[@angelfl5189]

Sean saying "is that a mandela?" has the same energy as "chris is that a weed?!"

[@hellhound2393]

Or the anime meme with the guy looking at a butterfly asking "Is this a Butterfly?"

[@notyarrs]

No it's a reference to a running joke playing Minecraft where he would say: "is that a MINECRAFT???" When looking at anything at all in the game.

[@hollow9414]

Meghan is that a police? I'm calling the weed!

[@SwizzleDrizzl]

@@hollow9414 420 whatcha smokin?

[@porygon7463]

is that a minecraft

[@BalletTapJazz]

Him reading “Awaken my son” as being someone’s name killed me

[@_PrincessMaggot]

Lmao, I cracked up at that too “Uh... Avakin..?”

[@crimsonfox8496]

bro my eyes must be terrible because i read awaken as Aivoken

[@ash-fb3tc]

@@crimsonfox8496 sameeeee

[@j_dizzle03]

i literally thought it said avaiken too then saw it was awaken at the last second

[@ShieldYoung]

I'm having a Deja Vu with your comment and

[@ALMOSTNKKD]

The fact that the Adam we thought we knew is actually an Alternate that is trying to reject the false Gabriel's plan is such a wild plot twist

[@maxypooooooo]

wait what

[@ALMOSTNKKD]

@@maxypooooooo When the Alternate that took Adam at the end has the monologue, he says when Adam looks in the mirror he sees the monsters from his bedroom all those years ago. When he brings up baby Adam, he speaks about him like he's not talking to the present Adam. Then just as he's cut off by woman, he was about to tell him that he's "Not the real you."

[@Flamme-Sanabi]

And the pieces were there too!

[@peptobismol6140]

So adam was an alternate the whole time in vol 2? Im confused

[@ALMOSTNKKD]

@@peptobismol6140 He's been an Alternate his entire life. But while he's lived as a human, it seems that when he is of free will, he opposes the will of Gabriel and wants to stop him.

[@omgtatercat]

Thatcher isn't dead, but there is an alternate of him, stalking him. Thatcher feels immeasurable guilt because he knowingly abandoned Weaver in a house where an alternate was, so he's probably just holed himself up at home, drowning in guilt. Thatcher called for backup when he fled. Looks like the alternate that is copying him called it off, truly leaving Weaver to die. The alternates were originally coming in through the TVs, so that's why Dave still having one is a big deal. 6 is an alternate Adam released into the world as a child; 6 on the TV was called Stanley, who told children how to "imagine friends" into reality. Adam was abducted by the alternate and, when Adam's mother found he was gone, she hung herself.

[@ivyagamet4045]

Very beautilfully put together. I appreciate it!👏

[@stephaniecruz9818]

You are missing some things- The Adam we know is an alternate who replaced the real Adam. He was put there by the intruder (the Stanley guy/ hood guy/6) but Adam doesnt remember he is an alternate. Being an alternat is why he says bad things to Evelyn/ is oddly emotionless about Jonah/ doesnt have friends / is so interested in following them Thatcher and Dave hadnt been killed yet because they were actually helping the alternates by the video editing stuff. What i find super cool is that Dave's friend / Gabriel was actually IN CHURCHES disseminating that type of retoric and we didnt even know he was actually working so closely in his plan.

[@GB_Rishad]

wait why did she hung herself ?

[@stephaniecruz9818]

@@GB_Rishad i think she saw the doc report and figured it out her baby was gone and that adam was an alternate, that's why it shows a woman reading the doctor's report Edit nope sorry That's evelyn Idk lol

[@BreadedSpace]

I thought Thatcher was hiding from the alternate

[@benvel3392]

A clue-in for Jack: Adam is the protagonist of Mandela Catalogue Vol. 2. He was the one who went into basement for the "cat alternate". He is the one who's mother did "suici*e" at the sight of her lost infant. He let the "friend" from the TV in. He was the one who saw the intruder in his home. Thatcher is the protagonist of Mandela Catalogue Vol. 333. He was the one who got-got by the CGI alternate. Presumed dead by police because their alternate was found.

[@SilverYPheonix]

He needs a lot more clues but this definitely helps.

[@hubdweller9969]

He doesn't care enough to actually try and understand the story. He's just reacting to this because he knows it will get him views. He doesn't give a care about what's actually going on. Watch, when Vol. 666 or Vol. Finale or whatever comes out, all the time he's not being scared will be him saying stuff like "Wait, what's happening? Who are you? None of this makes sense, awe geez the writing was so much better back in Vol. 2..."

[@christinem5238]

@@hubdweller9969 i mean tbf jack does play hundreds of games hes obviously not going to remember everything esp where the episodes are spaced out by months, plus hes not gonna spend a few hours rewatching mandela catalogue stuff before recording a vid for a new episode 😭 its almost as if its a content creators job to upload videos for views

[@bisexualdisasterlol]

@@hubdweller9969 I mean, there's not many views to get honestly. It's been 11 hours since posting and it's only at 300k+. It seems like a lot, but considering his average video gets 1M+ or sometimes more, this one isn't doing that well. I've seen videos he's posted within the hour get more views. If he wanted a lot of views, he would probably play a recent release popular game. Also, it's understandable for him not to remember the lore. He has ADHD, and I know from personal experience it causes memory issues. Especially in the event of, like he said, long gaps between something. When I go back to watch something, I have to start from the beginning because I forget what happened. Plus, he's really busy and it's that hectic holiday season. It doesn't mean he doesn't care or he's greedy, it just means he's pretty normal.

[@vidushigupta3929]

@@bisexualdisasterlol true

[@lotiumm]

The Mandela Catalogue series makes me terrified in my own home even in the light of day.

[@ttalannn]

lol same bro, i lose sleep over this.

[@katja1521]

@@ttalannn it's currently 3:42 am... Fuck :)

[@slendrio]

Either have balls of steel or Im devoid of fear because I watched it at 3 o clock at night

[@simondowns9436]

@@slendrio If you have gotten scared before, it’s the ‘BALLS OF STEEL’ choice. Btw, 3 AM? BOI GOT BALLS OF TITANIUM

[@lozlullaby7947]

@@slendrio I’m watching it at 4am coz I’ve waited 2 weeks coz I’m such a pussy lmaooo. I’ve neither balls of steel nor bravery I’m just stupid 😂

[@chongwong7473]

"Aivaken my son" -Jacksepticeye,2022

[@ladywithpinkglasses]

Sean can't read italics, confirmed

[@laurmaer]

I lost it 😂

[@CherryFizzAnimations]

Indeed

[@SimonPetrikov12]

Why does this translate to, "I woke up my son"

[@thesauceguy1809]

Dovah-Kiin

[@kay-dc8495]

Lets take a moment to congratulate Jack for raising 10 Million for charity

[@rtx_galaxix]

Dont forget the people who donated aswell

[@CraffleZ]

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[@unduloid]

@@rtx_galaxix Who are those? Name a few!

[@AWD_2006]

@YeaMan page*

[@ultiswild]

@@yeaman9844 cool, but idc

[@X-SPONGED]

2:37 Jack reading "Awaken my son" as "Avakin, my son" has the same vibe as xqc reading "I am a man of fortune" as "Jam a man of fortune"

[@Ruvaakjun]

Thatcher is 100% a My Chemical Romance fan. I remember those days, and he does indeed talk exactly like how the Emo kids at my school did. Man. 2009 was a crazy year.

[@sophiethompson2762]

he makes genuinely good music 😭

[@Ruvaakjun]

@@amya8563 I was referring to the LT.

[@schrydr]

@@sophiethompson2762 fr

[@Lillllllyyyyyy]

He's also actually a music artist on tour rn and is also really good

[@visasha]

he has a serious case of shawn milke voice

[@leafyr0kr]

For me, the best part was Jonah Marshall's memorial video, where he's seen speaking with his alternate (which he thought were voices in his head) next to the car where he died. The alternate slowly morphing into him (in Vol. 333 we learned that they can do that, instead of killing the person and then transforming into them), repeating the same phrases he said a while earlier, and Jonah going "GET OUT OF MY HEAD". Top notch content, top notch horror. Also, fuck that closet creep.

[@Byrdffv]

Actually im pretty sure that part was from adam

[@originalpikso]

adam was the one saying get out of my head

[@TheOtherWhiteNerd]

I was thinking it was Jonah saying, “GET OUT OF MY HOU-“.

[@LoreCatan]

@@Byrdffv No?? That was so clearly Jonah, the alternate was taunting him the exact same way in vol. 333, he just didn't die immediately like we thought.

[@purpleiris6043]

do what to that closet creep? 🤨

[@fathergoodkush3116]

Him not knowing who Throne Baker (Thatcher A.K.A Teenage Disaster) is made the music joke so much funnier bc he actually does make emo music

[@saraily2778]

I WAS LOOKING FOR THIS COMMENT IS THAT ACTUALLY HIM??

[@saraily2778]

holy shit i just looked it up IT IS i thought they just looked really similar GOOD LORD

[@kingqiwi8252]

Man i just thought the look-alike

[@luisgamboa1935]

@@saraily2778 YESSURRR 💯💯💯

[@r3uvsgaming]

The problem with Thorne Baker is that he's supposed to play an ex police officer who is middle aged, yet Baker himself looks like an emo dude in his early 20s

[@oren1305]

I love the little lore details that get sprinkled throughout the series. Alternates being unable to respond accurately to emotional stimuli is one of the ways to spot one if the physical characteristics don't give it away, and Adam is described as having just that issue in this episode.

[@Idontknowyou05]

I love how the best combat with alternates is just don't be afraid, which for those who have read or know the Bible, angels always began with "Be not afraid" it so amazing how Alex inputs these amazing things, and that's exactly what Thatcher does in the closet scene, he is still, non-reactive, quiet, and most important not afraid of the closet alternate.

[@NovumDoesObservation]

That is an excellent detail that I feel is often missed. The alternates aren't JUST killing people; They are making people kill themselves. He knows they want to toy with him, not just kill him, so he just endures their presence like an extremely creepy housemate.

[@kobrakuddles568]

It also goes back to the original episode with Jonah and Adam. Adam walks into the room with the alternate and, although he encounters it, he escapes alive and unharmed as he was unafraid and sought it out. Jonah, who feared for his life, ran, but didn’t anticipate that the alternate would still be able to attack him because of the technology he had with him, and he ended up dying.

[@royearle1673]

I think it's funny that one of the aliases the alternate is going by is "Stanley". Like, "6" is cryptic, "The intruder" is intimidating and then there's "Stanley", which sounds like the name of your neighbour asking to borrow your lawnmower.

[@cheese__cake]

or the name of a character who is in an office apartment

[@bucketofsunshine6366]

The name of a guy who pushes buttons all day for a living and is content with that life.

[@nicolasreveco3748]

and then the narrator goes "And then, stanley went into the room into the room into the room into the room into the room into the room in-

[@MxMcGeeky]

Alternates are more like Shapeshifters/Doppelgängers than something that possesses people. Just because you see an alternate of someone doesn’t mean the person the alternate is imitating is dead/gone

[@hubdweller9969]

Don't bother man, he doesn't care about anything but the views.

[@MxMcGeeky]

@@hubdweller9969 Wow, what an untrue and pointless comment. Thanks. I don’t know what’s got you so upset, but damn.

[@starshinenylene]

@@hubdweller9969 Why are you so mad, my dude?

[@LaCr0ix4139]

@@hubdweller9969terrible take considering he just raised 10 mil for charity

[@amalgamation3679]

@@hubdweller9969wtf

[@TomatoSauceGaming626]

21:29 This has the same energy as seeing a spider disappear after you run to grab a shoe. Just pure panic at the idea of something wandering around your house that you don't want there.

[@Savetherection]

To true

[@MrLeFluffy1]

30:42 OHHHHH THAT CHANGES A LOT OKAY For anyone who didn't catch exactly what was happening, that was Adam saying (I'm on mobile so I can't replay and type, so forgive me for not being 100% accurate): "I never said it was stupid! I didn't say that! This computer, it's messing with my words!" Earlier, we saw what message Adam is referring to. Adam calls this entire thing about making a video to honor Jonah "stupid" over online chat with Eveline. In fact, Adam has been upsettingly uncaring about the entire situation with Jonah. Apparently Jonah was his best friend (or, well, Adam was Jonah's best friend), and Adam seems to just not care at all that Jonah died. In fact, it's implied that Adam and Jonah were out getting footage when something happened, and Adam just... made his way back to the car and left without Jonah or getting help. So Adam didn't just lose his friend, he was there when it happened, but seemingly doesn't care _at all_ and is annoyed that Eveline is upset and making him at least put something together to tell their viewers he's gone. But then we get this. Adam is very upset, and he's screaming at his computer, _"I never said it was stupid, stop messing with my words!"_ Adam _never said it was stupid,_ and he's very upset about that specific part of the distortion. This means Adam _doesn't think making a video for Jonah is stupid._ Also, not only is whatever is in Jonah's computer sending its own messages to those Jonah's trying to talk to, we can hear it _audibly_ mimicking Jonah's voice, and beginning to mix and match his words into different orders. We know some types of anomalies can mimic people in different ways, be it in voice or appearance (they're not always perfect, ie the very distorted form of Thatcher we saw). We also know anomalies can traverse through things like screens and mirrors. It seems an anomaly is inhabiting Adam's computer, and is in the process of learning to mimic him. But this is _huge,_ because it means that we don't know what was actually Adam or not. The voice we hear is Adam very obviously caring about this whole thing with Jonah, and whatever entity that's fucking with him changing the information other people receive. And because it's voice mimicking, that means even the phone call with Eveline where Adam was cruel and uncaring could possibly have been the result of the entity mimicking and distorting Adam's words, and not what Adam was actually saying. Hell, even Adam deleting Jonah's contact might not have actually been Adam's choice. A lot of the video up to this point is characterizing Adam as a _massive_ piece of shit. But these few seconds right here tell you that we don't actually know _anything_ about Adam, because everything we have seen and heard might not have even _been_ Adam at all. I just love when so much story telling is done without outright saying so. Adam was never described as uncaring, but his actions stick out as shockingly cold, and frequent enough for the viewer to begin to characterize him, to expect a certain level of disgusting apathy, which is _very_ strong characterization. And then, in a few seconds, without ever saying it outright, it tells us we have no fucking clue what's real in regards to Adam, that our very strong foundation of who Adam is is build on quicksand, that _nothing_ we think we know, we can claim to know. Which also sets up that subconscious alarm, and sets a precedent for the _entire thing_ - again, in mere seconds of audio - that the things we see can be lies without us knowing. If Adam's apathy wasn't even real, how do we know anything else we've seen is the full picture? How do we _actually know_ anything about what's happening? Before that audio, you'd say Adam thought the video project was stupid. But we didn't _know_ that. It wasn't _truth._ Which leaves you with the only thing you _can_ know for certain: _something is very, very wrong, and people are dying because of it._ This has been such a huge theme in the Mandela Catalogue, and it's done _so fucking beautifully._ You fear what you don't know, and the Mandela Catalogue has mastered making sure that all you _can_ know is that nothing, nowhere, and no-one is safe from a danger beyond comprehension. All you can know is _fear._ Edit* They're alternates, not anomalies. Whoops!

[@Cloudy_Berry79]

Just one small detail that should be changed. It was Sarah Heathcliff who requested the memorial video. Not Evelyn.

[@avy244]

Also isnt that directly connected to where 2 guys where in a haunted house and one did go downstairs because of the cat sounds and other just drove away?

[@Scarde0]

Wasn't Adam the one who stayed and was left behind by Jonah?

[@SachaiTV12]

@@Scarde0 i think the alternate who was making the cat noises actually took control of adam and went outside of the house and back to his house or smt and jonah died because of the car stopping on the side of the road in vol.2. jonah probably died because an alternate killed him or smt idk cuz he screamed at the end inside of his car. maybe the alternate killed him through the car radio or dashcam idk i might not be correct

[@iselfdestrukt7338]

Wow...that is fucking terrifying😨

[@immute]

Jack was actually right on the money with Thatcher. Irl, he does actually make music kinda like that haha.

[@immute]

Calling him a 2009 emo is also funny, because I think that's actually the year this takes place in lol

[@ashikjaman1940]

@@immute Lore accurate costuming

[@immute]

@YeaMan do you have a clue what you're even talking about?

[@ashikjaman1940]

@@immute it's a bot

[@purrpixelvevo]

it’s really cool seeing thorne get recognition like this

[@Judgement_Kazzy]

One of these days, Alex is actually going to put a loud jumpscare in one of these and simultaneously kill his entire audience of heart attacks. Edit: I fucking know. 50 other people have told me.

[@astralguardoriginal]

💀

[@neraslight4997]

Good.

[@nakulaman]

Yep. The whole series will just build up to one collosal jumpscare at the end

[@anirudhashok3332]

@@neraslight4997 l o l

[@Youonyouon]

@@nakulaman oh my god that sounds awesome

[@jackofclubs6229]

Father O’ Brien and Gabriel being voiced by a guy called “It’s a me Wario” is hilarious.

[@DogSippingRootbeer]

WA ITSA ME WARIO

[@hat7475]

LMAOP NO WAY

[@AMadMage]

I love the use of 3D animation for this. 3D models of faces can often be uncanny when trying to resemble human faces, but they use this to their advantage really well.

[@imireton4766]

fr, the final reveal of stanely aka the intruder had the perfect look in my opinion

[@aspiebirdgrrrl6546]

20:56 The worst thing is that it's said that alternates can't physically harm you but can just be there in the corner of your room and you can't really do anything about it, it's just horrifying for me to think about Edit: This aged.

[@kebabit707]

that csn be both a good and a bad thing if you know they cant physically hurt you, you may feel safer sleeping you only get M.A.D if you dont want to hear what they tell you, but if you're interested in figuring it all out, im pretty sure that means you arent affected

[@donecoin33]

I imagine if you act like a total lunatic yourself and not fear them they quite frankly can’t do much, if anything to you

[@robertcortez4956]

On the one hand, they can’t do anything to hurt you but on the other hand, you can’t hurt them if you’re both sitting there.

[@LiaMakesContentWow]

If they can't hurt me I'd just insult them when I bother paying attention to them and ignore them most of the time

[@MichaeljM9402]

I’d just get used to it honestly

[@ashenblood]

I'd like to see Jack's reaction when he realizes it was "awaken" not "avaken" lol

[@CinaGD]

Just gonna say I love your username

[@ashenblood]

@@CinaGD ah thanks man, I like yours too

[@lolmeister9764]

Lord, MatPat's gonna have a hecking field day with this one

[@Mr.BananaManYT]

@YeaMan nothing to do with the vid? and who tf are you "lol".

[@Diversity_Squad]

Field day? No a VACATION!

[@Jeretyto]

@@Mr.BananaManYT its a spam bot, just ignore them

[@Mowmauf]

Matpat did the first 20 minutes already I’m just waiting for the next 20 minutes

[@kordz_uwu]

My thoughts exactly!

[@stardust4526]

he should do a really long stream where he watches everything in order, it'd probably help him with the lore. Also it'd be interesting to see him connect the dots and stuff

[@nankhanz6807]

Fr

[@certifiedhacker8422]

I think its will be too long

[@dkdk12400]

​@@certifiedhacker8422bruh

[@BradenChristensen]

@@certifiedhacker8422livestreams are supposed to be long

[@shaun7772]

"The spirit created the skies above and the water below" *Jacksepticeye arises from the depths of the ocean* "Oh yeah look at those reflections baby!" This should become both biblical lore and Jacksepticeye Lore. Somebody add it to the bible and Jack's origin story.

[@honilock577]

Jack is the Tom Bombadil of Bible lore. He was there before the Spirit created everything just so he could comment on the reflections

[@sorcikator993]

@@honilock577 I accept this as real life canon

[@Ajinic]

And thus the sky and water were created. And Disciple Jack said unto the heavens, "sick reflection god" And it was good -Boss:1:1

[@imireton4766]

my theory about Adam, is that he is indeed an alternate, and the intruder aka Stanley replaced the original Adam as a child in the intruder alert video. the intruder in this volume says "do you remember my touch? (talking to the fake Adam) I cradled him in my arms my sweet boy (referring now to the original Adam) I took him away" this could mean that the intruder had stolen the original Adam through through the tv and killed him, (the "do you remember my touch" part could be referring to him snapping his neck or something), made an alternate of him and replaced the original. this is why he doesn't really know he's an alternate as he was raised and grew up as if he was a normal human, but would also explain why he seems so obsessed with the alternates and is not frightened but intrigued by them. this may also explain why he did not respond to any of the stress assessment videos. also if the report said that him not responding to the video could be due to a recent phenomenon in young children, that could mean that more and more people could be similar to Adam: alternates that don't know they are alternates. Adam could also be a sleeper alternate of some sorts, acting as a normal human but will be "awoken" in a sense to then fulfill his purpose as some important alternate or "the Mandela prophet" as the end of the video referred to him as. this could be the reason why phrases similar to something like "wake up" or "wake up Adam" or "open you eyes" are echoed through the series. i got my main theory idea from wendigoon so shoutout to him :)

[@Drunken_Monke]

My personal theory is that he might be turning into a new kind of alternate. The first alternate to start out completely human and slowly corrupt and control a host body. These things have a reason to abduct people and as they slowly wise up to the alternates games they will have to change it up to continue to grab more people.

[@ic0nic707]

It’s definitely an odd plot line, but this seems like where it’s going.

[@imireton4766]

@@Drunken_Monke Yeah i think based on how many alternates seem to focus on him makes him seem important and unique

[@Drunken_Monke]

@@imireton4766 not just him either. There must be a reason they are just watching Thatcher instead of just offing him already. I'm pretty sure those 2 are the main focus of the story, both hell bent on getting and understanding footage of the alters for wildly different reasons.

[@magecraftgamer6166]

Maybe he's not an alternative but an agent against them he is to the intruder as the alternates are to The false shepard who pretends to be the angel gabriel knowing their fear gives him power so the intruder made sure Adam has no fear

[@VIXHIX]

Sarah: " Let's go Ghost Hunting! " Sarah (Again): "Oh hell naw bruh. "

[@crolithebard4964]

Jack being funny is awesome, but something he missed because of the edge humor is that the pile of files in 18:22 are ALL missing person reports. Every last one of them is a missing person, and the numbers he didn’t recognize are Mandela’s population (which is dropping by the thousands). Alex Kister’s work is awesome, and I would love to have seen Jacks reaction to that realization 😎

[@LivenUp7]

So Adam and Jonah were from Mandela 2(I believe). Jonah left Adam at the house and was killed by an alternate on the side of the road. This claims that Adam walked until he found the car, left Jonah's body on the side of the road, drove home, and COMPLETELY fucking phoned it in for Jonah's death and memorial. Jonah, his best friend. I suggest watching Wendigoon's stuff on these, I think he's pretty much got it down pat. Especially since Mandela 4 drops so much info and lore and connections. Also Thatcher's cop partner, Weaver, died in the Mandela 3. Then the alternate turned into an exact copy of Thatcher in front of him and it fucked him up

[@oofskiiyt4660]

Exactly what I was thinking, however I think an alternate is impersonating Adam mainly due to the computer scene where we can see him removing Jonah’s contact, it would make sense to do that if you felt no remorse for Jonah, it also already makes sense that the same alternate killed them both because in Jonah’s death scene the alternate talks about him leaving Adam to die.

[@Corzappy]

I thought Jonah was the guy that went into the basement and watched the TV and died and Adam was his friend who left. Unless I'm remembering it wrong, but I feel like capturing paranormal activity was pretty central to that episode and that lines up with what I'm seeing in this episode.

[@SimonPetrikov12]

I still don't believe Jonah is dead. He did not make a death sound and more so his body is never seen. Maybe he was "swallowed by a whale" for now

[@scarigamez]

@@oofskiiyt4660 remember what the intruder says. "I took him away...you're not the real you." He took Adam when he was a child, and was replaced by an Alternate who forgot what he is

[@literalchaos6379]

so fuckin creepy bro

[@TheAdvertisement]

Dude I can't believe I was tricked by the alter for like half the video. Such a genius decision to make Adam out to be careless about Jonah's death, to both pin us and Sarah against him, when in reality what was being sent to her wasn't from him at all. God this series is so good at manipulating the audience. Edit: Omg and I just realized, the intro literally sets this up! The Man, Adam, staring down at the woman, Eve. Sarah's scared and disturbed by how Adam reacts to Jonah's death, but just like how Adam meets the devil in the intro, it's because the devil/alternates are messing with what Adam's saying!

[@FranciumBoron]

I remember at the climax of the story when the hero said "It's Mandelin' time." *_Endless chills._*

[@toenailmuncher0772]

Then they mandel-ed all over people

[@JustMardus]

Thatcher says "It's Mandelin' Time" and the Alternate responds with "Ayo thats my line"

[@FranciumBoron]

@@JustMardus *_The plot enthickenates!_*

[@mr.context3872]

Also when the intruder said “it’s wall time” and absolutely went in the walls, truly a Shepard moment

[@AlexxKister]

❤️❤️❤️

[@PrincessTwilightdash]

Ooooooo

[@diegamer2325]

YOO

[@diegamer2325]

IT'S YOU

[@diegamer2325]

ALEX

[@diegamer2325]

alex your videos are very based and spooky

[@figbloppa7183]

Something that it seems like not everyone noticed is that, when fake thatcher is talking he knew the police’s way of talking, saying: this is lieutenant thatcher, call off all units.

[@bleumoon__]

I CANNOT get over the scene of the person in the closet. That shit was beyond creepy D: I love it and hate it at the same time. Also I love that these videos never have jumpscares. I applaud anything that can be scary without loud sounds and jumps.

[@peachibread1983]

They definitely aren't in your closet right now

[@bleumoon__]

@@peachibread1983 Jokes on you, I don't have a closet >:D

[@peachibread1983]

@@bleumoon__ damn, defeated by home planning

[@KingOfCannibals]

Me too! I usually use the little scroll to skip past any extra spooks but right before the closet scene i missed i had a bowl of ceneral in my hand. The moment they popped up i yelped and threw cereal EVERYWHERE! At least my dog enjoyed some lol (it was non-chocolate cereal dw)

[@Chris_W]

I really love the analogue horror trope of scares being when the sound cuts out. It's so much more unsettling

[@tonybippitykaye]

If you want a deep dive into the lore of these videos, I highly recommend watching Wendigoon’s analysis on them! He’s very chill and laid back while also adding in his own theories as to what’s going on.

[@luciferschoice]

As an artist - thank you for speaking out against AI Art. This problem needs to be spoken out against more openly.

[@logandarnell8946]

Ai art isnt the problem fool

[@LiaMakesContentWow]

As an artist - The problem is not the AI art, It's how people use AI art.

[@luciferschoice]

@@LiaMakesContentWow Yes. More or less how the art was scraped (copyright and stuff).

[@logandarnell8946]

@@luciferschoice you say this but do you actually know which programs just use images indiscriminately without permission? do you actually have facts to back the "they all steal art" claim beyond a bunch of bored twitter mongers looking for something to be outraged about repeating it over and over. they certainly exist and art does get "stolen" (used without permission, the validity of the word stolen is kinda bunk in my opinion, its digital) but most of the big mainline AI image generators are at least kind of reputable. some can be fed source material by users which would cause art to make its way into the system without permission, but in a large way its just too vague and overreaching of an argument to hold any weight.

[@luciferschoice]

​@@logandarnell8946 Ah, another one of those butthurt AI-Fans- I see. Because the "fodder" for your machine is not happy and is speaking out about it. Don't try to normalize it. This discussion is not only on "Twitter" - Twitter is just the help to spread information faster. I'll try, to explain, but english is not my native language. You can find this debate on a lot of sites. Trainingdata had to be fed, otherwise Ai could not replicate/generate anything. It needs something to learn. Many of my friends and artists around the globe have found their whole art gallerys have been scraped and can be found in the Laion Database. It even recreates the watermarks of us artists. As links will most likely get deleted, here are the things you can take a look into. • Kotaku - AI Creating 'Art' Is An Ethical And Copyright Nightmare • The Verge - ArtStation is hiding images protesting AI art on the platform • ArsTechnica - Artist finds private medical record photos in popular AI training data set • NYTimes - The Alt-Right Manipulated my Comic. Then AI claimed it. • The Verge - AI art tools Stable Diffusion and Midjourney targeted with copyright lawsuit • The Verge - Getty Images sues AI art generator Stable Diffusion in the US for copyright infringement •Also take a look into "magnificoheritage" on Instagram

[@youngproductions4152]

Nothing was more frustrating than putting in a tape to watch and realizing someone didn't rewind it after they were done.

[@reni9k612]

I got yelled at so many times that I always remembered at one point 😂

[@paigebond4010]

it was me. i always forgot to rewind 😭😭

[@THECHRISAL3X]

Oh man! I forgot all about that haha. We would use that time to do something else or make popcorn and you go back into the room and ask whoever is watching with you “did it finish yet?”

[@CharlesMeyer-le7bk]

Is it just me or dose Jacks audio commentary during the whole thing makes me feel so much better?

[@candy2325]

I agree. I’m watching this in the middle of the night and I’m regretting it lol

[@Mcglocklin.]

Yes a lot better I don’t think I could sit through the whole video alone lmao

[@reni9k612]

100% agree!

[@zivens.2407]

That is exactly why I'm here watching. I couldn't watch this on my own tbh

[@Buzzingafan]

The face in the correspondence part says,"a thriving society of followers of the true savior,a mess of tangled limbs danced around my bedroom,i held my breath and waited for it to stop,i was too scared."and then it just glitches out

[@kaboomrang7909]

thank you good sir

[@Buzzingafan]

@@kaboomrang7909 of course!

[@Haitee]

the "look at those reflections baby" TOOK ME OUT SO BADLY 😂😂😂

[@thecosmicradiation]

The guy who plays Adam (edit: Thatcher) does a pretty good job to be honest. Like the weird emo dialogue was a lot, but the part where he read his "letter" was pretty well acted.

[@cslack813]

yeah that emotional crying bit was great

[@chilipeper0895]

That was Thatcher bruh….

[@thecosmicradiation]

@@chilipeper0895 You're right, have edited it

[@lylanotherday1383]

Yeah I was really pleasantly surprised by how little cringe I felt during the crying bit.

[@HabitualThinker]

@@thecosmicradiation why did you write “edit: thatcher” instead of replacing Adam with thatcher

[@cannonbult0666]

The flowers that seemingly cover up the screen when adam walks through the door in the memorial video he sent to sarah is him censoring jonahs corpes that was killed by the alternate that adam encounters in the house.

[@nrg6245]

The shots and the black and white aesthetic are hands down one of the best horror content I’ve seen before. It truly is a work of art.

[@ZeWackithMan]

Dude when the face said "Do your part in uploading your face to make a better society" or something like that, I think Sean nailed it with the whole AI thing.

[@KimNguyen-pj9dq]

So people most likely d!e when they encounter an alternate, they whisper overwhelming knowledge to the victim, make them go mad, and k!ll themselves, and that causes the alternate chance to replace them. But if you look back at the video called " metaphysical awareness disorder " (M.A.D), You will know that there's a small percentage that survives it and Thatcher is one of them, so now we have alternate Thatcher and real Thatcher coexisting because he didn't get affected by M.A.D and still alive.

[@alexiotron]

great explanation, replying to boost

[@henyo5409]

yeah this is very well put. booooost

[@aurorapowell8891]

If you want a good analysis of the Mandela catalogue, Wendigoon has multiple really good videos breaking it down and hypothesizing on what’s happening.

[@LivenUp7]

Agreed, and he did a livestream of Mandela 4 on Wendigang. Most if it is laughing at the idea of Adam getting Jonah killed then phoning it in 🤣🤣

[@nman551]

@@LivenUp7 that was amazing

[@jfye4453]

@@LivenUp7he had the same reaction I did when it showed the alternate in thatchers closet. He didn’t see it at first and than u take a closer look and BAM it hits u in the face

[@endergames6446]

Adam: "there is *nothing* that can scare us away!" Alternates: "and I took that personally"

[@kerfumpel1263]

THE TALKING IN BOTH OF MY INDIVIDUAL EARS MADE MY SOUL ESCAPE MY BODY

[@cara_lina]

FRRR I HATED THAT SHIT

[@yeahok8259]

At around minute 40 I actually yelled out loud because as the sky was going dark for Dave, my lava lamp suddenly shifted the lighting in my room and I deadass thought that devil was here for me bruh

[@Pigeon_Oj]

The reason I like to watch Jack reacting to these videos rather than watching the original is because honestly I don’t like feeling uneasy. However I deeply enjoy horror plots/lore/theory’s and Jack provides a nice middle group, where I can experience the interesting themes provided while Jack keeps things light bringing viewers “up for air” every now and again. ☺️❤️

[@havacarrasco8715]

I feel the same, it's like having someone to be scared with

[@JustMardus]

Yeah alex's stuff is something I am not watching by myself even in a lit room, im subscribed to him and liked the videos but I am not watching that stuff alone, thank you very much.

[@Eli-pi4eh]

Wendigoon watched this one live for the first time as well and explains it all which makes it less creepy imo

[@GB_Rishad]

sammmmmmmmmmme bro it feels like he keeping me company

[@lilith_and_chill]

I was getting so into this and then my dog barked and I nearly shat myself while simultaneously had a heart attack

[@GooglyBeast]

I very rarely comment on videos but for this, I want to suggest and hope Jack checks out The Smile Tapes if he hasn't already. Very eerie and definitely right up Jacks alley!

[@QueenSoniaLover]

THIS SOME ONE GET THIS NOTICED 😤😤😤 P.S congrats on the 100 likes I HAD TO PUT IT TO 100! IT WAS ON 99

[@koolcatcole]

Really glad to hear Jack say something about AI art since it’s such an important subject, he explained it well.

[@mr.stuffdoer8483]

He really didn’t, the AI isn’t copying anything and putting public images into its “brain” isn’t stealing shit. The images are PUBLIC. Once an artist makes them available people can do whatever they want with it so long as it doesn’t break copyright. And the AI isn’t storing those images, it’s taking the data assigned to them and making new ones based off that. It’s also a very small minority that’s using this tech for personal profit that’s causing all people who use to get a bad rep.

[@emstink]

@@mr.stuffdoer8483 AI machines do not know what is copyrighted and what is not. Yes, people can do whatever they want with public images as long as they adhere to copyright. The issue is that people can sneakily feed copyrighted images into AI, the AI knows no better. I've already seen plenty of examples of people feeding other people's copyrighted art into AI machines to make very similar images based on that. As a result, other people accidentally generate very similar images and are accused of violating copyright. Yes, it's a few people doing it, but those few people are literally poisoning the well.

[@heathenised]

@@mr.stuffdoer8483 too bad that copyright still falls under most artworks also... absolutely not? if someone shares their art with the public doesn't fucking mean you can do whatever you want with it??? by that logic i could actually take the monalisa and just spray paint on it what i want, since you know... da vinci shared it with the world 🤪

[@tsuakiyama9996]

@@mr.stuffdoer8483 according to copyright law, for works made by artists and authors, the copyright remains with the artist unless the rights are signed over.

[@mr.stuffdoer8483]

@@heathenised You can take a digital copy of the Mona Lisa, print it out, and spray paint it. Anything aside from messing with the original copy which you can’t do with a digital file, kinda figured that would be clear. Also if you want copyright to heavily protect artists say goodbye to all fanart in existence

[@lizluke2686]

Highly recommend watching Wendigoon's theory video on the Mandela catalogue if you have time! He hasn't put out a new one for vol 4 yet, but I think he does a really great job explaining the events and the timelines of the earlier videos and really does his research well.

[@geekfreak315]

Dude I literally just commented the same thing, I'm glad someone else here watches his analysis videos. They're bloody awesome.

[@tonybippitykaye]

As silly as it may sound hearing him say that stuff, I believe Thatcher truly believes in what he’s saying. He left his partner, Ruth, to die, survived the events at the end of Volume 3 by shooting at the alternate, helplessly watched the population of his town basically crumble to oblivion over the course of years, and is basically being tormented by nightmares and ideas of a second, distorted, and malevolent version of him still being out there. He’s been in hiding and isolated for years at this point, alone with his thoughts and guilt, trying his best to fight a war he can’t win. So even if what he’s saying sounds like a “my chemical romance” stan, its definitely far from unjustifiable.

[@rachelynette]

I was thinking that Adam sounded like Sykkuno throughout the entire dialouge, so glad Sean commented on it so I knew I wasn't going crazy 😂

[@boifixed]

the hands in the hallway were pretty scary until i thought about how people had to film them flailing their hands

[@sawychuck9797]

Me, trying to enjoy the 3D audio: Jack: IS THAT A MANDELA

[@mattterra9303]

3d audio?

[@KnightSlasher]

The biblical speech at the beginning along with Jack in the corner proves that he is essentially Jesus looking down at all of us

[@jhfle26]

that face was creepy as shii

[@delhyde2]

Also still really like this reference to biblical figures- using them as a metaphor for the internet and communication networks. Moses, Mary, Gabriel- they "connected" people, traveled distances to connect with people, spread a message; just like TVs, networks, videos, the internet. They were the alternates early TVs, spreading the alternate's influence and tapping peoples' fear. Very creative.

[@Skythatgathersscreams]

I feel as if the references to biblical figures can be both metaphorical like you said but I believe that it's literal. Since we know the fake Gabriel was the first alternate whose to say the other biblical stories shown here were not apart of this

[@Quinnnlly]

Jumped out on my skin. Was looking at my second monitor when the voice in my right ear came on and scared the shit out of me. Literally turned around thinking someone was in the room with me then it moved to the other ear. Holy crap

[@icehd2412]

If you watch Wendigoons video explaining all of the Mandela lore you’ll piece together a super in-depth crazy story when this video watching it none of it makes sense it’s insane when you have someone piece together the whole series for you and you can actually see every little thing you were blind too before I highly recommend watching his video on it this lore In this world is horrifying and just wow it’s super good watch it

[@hkplays4914]

Hey jack, some stuff you missed and some insights. Thatcher was the cop from thr previous episode and he left ruth behind and his in his home for years. Adam was in the duo from a previous episode wherewere investigating a ladies house. It is now theorized that adam was always a alternate and that the real adam was taken by the intruder. There is a bunch of other things that you missed so i would recommend if you got the time, i would do a quick run down of the previous episode.

[@PaperMage76]

I never tire of this dude's support for artists--a while back he made his distaste for plagiarism/reposting of fanart known, in a more recent video his distaste for NFTs/crypto, and in this one he all but says AI & the way people use it is plagiarism. Exceedingly grateful for such a big name to acknowledge the faults in these fads when too many other celebs are so quick to jump on them as if they were the future of art/technology.

[@alperceken2876]

Mandela catalogue has progressively gotten less and less scary, it just feels like a documentary now.

[@afrochicken8016]

If anything this makes it more scary, almost like it’s becoming more realistic. (just me tho)

[@pokepaar3696]

And longer and longer

[@A1000-b9s]

I disagree, specially if you follow the story carefully

[@pumpkincat3291]

really admire jack for speaking out against ai/art theft and connecting that to this theme. awesome as always jack/sean hehe

[@maxbaxter2003]

Did anyone else notice at 7:45 that she said "don't forget to bring your paintbrushes" but the captions say "don't be AFRAID to bring your paintbrushes"

[@RathiSweet2475]

Is it bad the moment I read Awaken my Son I immediately thought of Wamuu and heard the Pillar Men theme in my head

[@hidden_animator522]

Ayayayiiiiiii

[@sheez7734]

Now i can imagine the pillarmen suplexing an alternate

[@Shythalia]

Dave Lee started as a joke character to promote Alex' first plushie and he decided to make him & his business canon.

[@rayvenkoi7319]

This reminds me of how people will donate DNA to ancestry sites. I heard a lawyer say they would never do that, because some of those companies don’t have a strict limit on what they can use your DNA for.. a scary thought.. haha but another great video. Thanks!

[@EggshellentYolk]

Something I found very interesting is Jack’s reaction to Adam’s 3 pictures at the end because, well, he DOES look like Stanley, just a little bit less alterlike. It made me think about Stanley’s monologue a little more, how parental he sounds in it, seemingly more reminding and explaining rather than seeming malicious, and then it hit me, Lynn & Jude are the original Adam’s parents. Stanley created Murray, as he calls him (probably bc current Adam is not actually Adam) so Stanley seems to be like his parent, or thinks of himself that way

[@pogstache]

Murray is Adams last name

[@Priceluked]

They played the recording of the last castrato on the radio the other day and it instantly reminded me of the existence of this.

[@thelaughingrouge]

I love analog horror and this series has been amazing. Also I can't believe Jack raised *10 MILLION* this year, way to go my dude!

[@ZeddiLeppi]

Hey Jack, while I definitely do recommend looking back at the previous mandela catalogue entries, I also HIGHLY recommend checking out Wendigoon's videos on this series. He does a damn good job of taking everything, explaining it, and putting it all into a cohesive timeline. Plus, he's probably out of anyone, other than Alex himself and maybe some other people working on the the series, in the know on some inside information than most people have on the series. So you get some serious (non spoiler) insight that you might not pick up on otherwise.

[@blahahbly11]

New sub here, this was the best suspense/horror film I’ve seen in a long time. I’ve been saying for years that horror films in the past decade or so have really declined, but this, this is immaculate.

[@MrCRAZY-nn1wf]

the mandela catalog has to be one of the best youtube horror series. no stupid jump scares, just very uncomfortable confusion. it feels as though we shouldn’t know what it means, like we shouldn’t even be watching it.

[@NoNameEst1992]

I thought Jack was trolling when he misread "Awaken, my son" 😂😂😂😂

[@MisterMoodyHere]

“emo xqc” is the most accurate description of thatcher ive ever heard

[@rocksreviewsreactions337]

That wasn't just any old movie at 24:14, Jack, that was Sherlock Holmes! The originals with Basil Rathbone and Nigel Bruce! And if I'm not mistaken, that might have been the Spider Woman episode. 😆

[@leaf7567]

I was born 2000 but we had vhs's for quite a while, especially at my grandmas place. She still has them and they always bring back so many memories

[@noisyjay8894]

I was born 2004, 18 now. I used a VHS when I was 7-12. The movies I favored and first watched with the VHS was Old Yeller and Patch Adams. Amazing movies.

[@theViperNL]

Wish Jack did a separate series for Walten Files as well (he did one in scariest video's if I recall correctly)

[@tootifruiti0626]

Yeah, he did episodes one and two in the 7th scariest videos on the internet

[@HavingCrumpets]

yeah, no... walten files gotta be so overrated by now

[@winterchill365]

Alex did outstanding work making Volume 4! Compared to the previous volumes, this one seems to be more focused on explaining what is going on, even though there is a lot that is still uncovered or unknown. So far, we now know that Adam Murray is an alternate and have learned more about this "6" entity that is causing all this. I can't wait for The Mandela Catalogue Vol. 5!

[@Redhotjilliepeppers]

Text: "Awaken, my son" Jack: "AVAKEN? my son"

[@Ex_Caseus_Fortis]

As soon as Adam started talking I thought how he sounded like Sykkuno. Glad to know I wasn't alone.

[@littlegreen3339]

Speakong of VHS, i remember the commercial that said "YOU WOULDNT STEAL A CAR"

[@haleandguu]

OH MY GOD i was born 96 and i remember those !!!!! you wouldnt pirate a car xD

[@abos9811]

“Adams voice is kinda cool ngl” *two minutes later* “ADAM IS NOT COOL ABORT ABORT”

[@creatureboi2811]

" dude, Alex, you need to *chill* " fucking killed me lmfao

[@depresseddog]

Face studio 2 seems like a great idea for a interactive game like project people could use , to kind of like themselves get immersed in the Mandela cataloge universe even more like some previous games/playable stuff did before-

[@bossrazorback731]

Sean I love your content so much! It has gotten me through really hard times like depression and your witty jokes always manage to make me smile. Thank you Sean. Keep being you.

[@lukasaoo88]

I was born in 2004 and used vhs for a good bit of my early life and still have vhs of all the star wars films

[@zatoudragisyrene]

I just want to say, you’re my role model, Jack. I never commented on your videos but for the last five years, I’ve been watching almost every one of your videos, every day. You’ve made such a positive impact on my life, you’ve taught me to always stay calm, have fun, and never let my anger get to me. I thank you. You’re the best content creator anyone could ask for ^^

[@MarionettePuppetMaster]

Alex Kister has always made a lot of unique stuff, and vol 4 of the Mandela Catalogue series is absolutely incredibly well made, especially with the live action segments, the visuals, and of course the spookiness. Also, congratulations for raising 10 Million for your Thankmas Charity event Jack

[@GrumpyF0X]

A channel named Wendigoon gives a great breakdown of the whole Mandela series and even has interviews with Alex. I *HIGHLY* recommend giving him a watch to get a better understanding and, if you're like me, a better appreciation for the story in this series.

[@classic2963]

Jack having some kind of role in Mandela Catalogue would be cool af, considering he already showed he got good acting and voice acting skills. Edit: 💀

[@CraffleZ]

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[@friendlygiant1507]

Man doesn't even pick up 1/5th of the story. Not even that Adam is a fckn alternate, which was made incredibly obvious. Him being in their would genuinely screw up the feel of the entire series.

[@SpencerHansen2025]

@@friendlygiant1507 chill bruh 😭

[@friendlygiant1507]

@@SpencerHansen2025 No

[@RealSenpai]

@@friendlygiant1507 bro has a hatred for Sean

[@prettymorgan224]

If you're confused about the lore, Wendigoon has a very comprehensive timeline/theory

[@richardfoshee3244]

"Throw a shoe at it" AS HE'S LITERALLY WEARING SHOES IN BED, HE'S THE DEMON WE SHOULD BE SCARED OF

[@captaincaptain2674]

I grew up in the 2000s and VHS was still standard. I grew up using tape recorders and VHS all the same. Lots more people know how to use them than you might expect.