Jaden Ivey has EARNED Your RESPECT Detroit Pistons Fans

[@cadecrusader]

Don’t worry, I am not one of stupid fans that wanted Jaden Ivey traded. They don’t have the eye test or know the context of the Pistons situation. Ivey has so much talent and is the second star next to Cade Cunningham. It’s worth being a fan even when the team struggles or takes steps to be better. I’m happy to see the process and pieces coming together.

[@pheralanpathfinder4897]

I had Ivey ranked 2nd in The draft behind Banch. Cher had an astrix due to injury risk. I wouldn't have been angry about picking Javari over Ivey because I'm a defense first fan.

[@gordonsteuart8620]

You nailed it!!.......I have never wavered! Jayden Ivey is special, a keeper, a great basketball player, and he and Cade have arrived!! The kid is only 22 and will only get better! His work ethic, improved play, clutch gene (two game winners), belief in self, etc. He is the goods. One more year and they will be top 3 best backcourt in the NBA.

[@therockneverstops8261]

@@gordonsteuart8620 I definitely believe so.

[@senitastillwell5040]

It’s a joy to watch him grow😃❤️🙌🏾 !! Love your livestreams too👌🏾!

[@therockneverstops8261]

@@senitastillwell5040 I’ll do more for sure, they’re fun!

[@unclesam6972]

Jaden Ivey may be unpredictable or “inconsistent” in his young career but he’s going to give you FULL effort every minute, every night ! 💯

[@therockneverstops8261]

@@unclesam6972 I think once he learns how to pace himself he will learn to read the game when to assert himself vs take what the defense is giving. That’s likely Year 4.

[@unclesam6972]

@ yup and if that pull up jumper/floater can fall sky is the limit

[@bigatya]

Absolutely my brother , tell these people..enjoy the ride !!

[@therockneverstops8261]

@@bigatya It makes the ups that much sweeter. Like a good marriage, the hard times only accentuate the enjoyment of accomplishing goals together.

[@onfuntaparker7106]

You 💯 percent correct I'm 54 been a pistons die hard fan from Maryland since 1987 been through it all ups and down never jump on another team soon season over its it for me over straight pistons fan 4 life 💯

[@04billups90]

Imagine this kid on a team like Utah he would be averaging 21-22 a game

[@chrischarles4110]

That 4 point play was beautiful!! 2 game winners with in a few weeks!! He’s blessed right now and bringing that attitude and unapologetic faith first mentality can only benefit the entire organization. I’m tired of arguing with these people over JIs value and the player he truly is. Appreciate the player because y’all really watching a future perineal all star, all NBA player in his early development.

[@therockneverstops8261]

@@chrischarles4110 Yeah, I appreciate Ivey’s talent and hard work that is showing. I am also applauding the organization for sitting him instead of playing through knee pain so he could get back right and play at a high level. The faith stuff is always funny to me because on one side I appreciate gratitude for being blessed with an opportunity and at the same time I think there is a distinguishment between what we do out of our reflection of God vs God making sure you have good basketball games, 😅 like I’m pretty sure Jesus isn’t pausing from global warming and being like “oh shoot, what time do the Pistons play again?” 🤣

[@Shaw_Cardboard_Treasures]

I've never given up on Ivey. Been a fan since Isiah and Tripuka.

[@normanmckee5959]

You broke it down like a shot gun boom, boom. boom. They don’t know anything about Adrian Dantley and the Micro Wave colliding heads while dive for a loose ball. It put them out of the game when they had Boston on the ropes. We were suppose to beat them that year but that incident completely changed the momentum. They don’t know anything about Zeke throwing an errand pass under the Celtics basket which Bird intercepted and pass the ball to D.J for a lay up and series winner when the Pistons had the game won. These are growing pains that everyone must experience regardless of your profession. It is these growing pains that build character, mental toughness, and intestinal fortitude. If you can see it or understand it, it is a testimony that you don’t have it. Rock on brother and ignore those fair weather fans that have a backbone of a jellyfish. They don’t understand Deeetroit Basketball!

[@therockneverstops8261]

@@normanmckee5959 Well said.

[@kingdomthinker9794]

I've been rocking with this team (DETROIT PISTONS) since they lost in game 5 of the 1984 first-round series against the New York Knicks.

[@WarrenF19]

Damn, those 1st 5 minutes sounded like some sh... that I would've said, lol!! Dudes can't dribble with either hand and wanna talk down on these pros 😂😂😂 Edit: you ain't gotta be over 50 to remember the bad boys (I'm 49, lol), and we don't need to chat or type with one finger, but yeah, enjoy the ride young fellas... we older fans have seen WAY WORSE!!

[@therockneverstops8261]

@@WarrenF19 Waaaaaaay worse!

[@classic76]

48-year-old here. I'm from the Bird steals the ball and passes off to DJ era. CRUSHED. Cities like Detroit, that are not destination cities, you GOTTA go the homegrown route. Maybe pick up a few odds and ends from another market, but you gotta be patient. Folks want to trade for so-called stars instead nurturing the talent that's already here. Let them build a culture and ride or die together mentality.

[@pheralanpathfinder4897]

True but you also have to be willing to trade Dantley for Aguirre. Stackhouse for Rip was another controversial deal

[@classic76]

@pheralanpathfinder4897 I get it, but you make those moves when you're on the cusp of another level. Rip Hamilton was a pleasant surprise, but the signing of Sheed is what kicked it up a notch. Folks were hollering trade Cade his 2nd year amd trying ship Ivey out as well before we saw any kind of growth. Just tired of trading away potential for players well past their prime.

[@kingdomthinker9794]

Your opening statement is 🔥. I cannot stand fair weather fans. Love your channel by the way bro. 👍

[@therockneverstops8261]

@@kingdomthinker9794 Thanks, I appreciate it.

[@ShahanNolan]

Looking for content, not scolding, too many podcast are posting bb information, I never wanted IV gone and I still want him a pistons, let this pie cook and chill out and watch the team turn into a team worth cheering for.

[@bigatya]

Without a doubt, just like the Detroit Lions winning ways !! Enjoying the moment !!

[@ramen-3ats]

Like I said, instant gratification rules nowadays. Instant noodles. Can't wait for the beef to stew. lol. Many wanted to trade the young players last year, because they failed to see that Monty was the main culprit.

[@pheralanpathfinder4897]

The fans who wanted to trade Hates early were right. The fans who wanted to trade Duren last year will be proven right. But Ivey is living up to my expectations as a star scorer with passing skills.

[@ramen-3ats]

@pheralanpathfinder4897 hayes isn't part of the conversation because he was untradeable by default

[@therockneverstops8261]

@@pheralanpathfinder4897 Ironically, Killian Hayes is exactly what fans have been clamoring for that this team needs. A high IQ facilitating guard that can defend on the perimeter, LOL

[@pheralanpathfinder4897]

@@therockneverstops8261 I kept defending Killian's potential as an elite passer with good defense. He just never became the scorer we needed. Even if he was just a 36% three point shooter he would have a clear role in the rotation.

[@therockneverstops8261]

@ I think so too. Players in the right role look great. They just asked Killian to be what Cade is and he just isn’t.

[@hiphophistory2218]

Over 50? I'm 40...I became a fan ofthe Pistons during that Bad Boys era. I'm so tired of our fan base giving up players before they have a chance to get anywhere near their potential.

[@WeezyD313]

Yessir!!!!!!!

[@Loganody]

Preach!

[@Hilltop238]

Yeah he got me that's his second buzzer beater! I always said he's very good I just wonder what they are going too have too pay him vs bringing in a perennial all star vet. I like the way Ivey hustle man and wow he's a peculiar talent I don't have a player comp for him

[@therockneverstops8261]

@@Hilltop238 Yeah, there’s never a true player comparison but the closest to him are players that have had great careers. Having the combination of shooting range and freakish speed and vertical pop is a great recipe for stardom.

[@Rizzymsn01]

Ku hate all the young guys, he be ready to give up

[@therockneverstops8261]

@@Rizzymsn01 FACTS 🤣

[@WeezyD313]

It’s an uphill battle.

[@Megahustla313rd]

Yup, I have been a Pistons fan since the Junkyard Dog Jerome Williams days 😂

[@therockneverstops8261]

@@Megahustla313rd OKAY Jerome Williams!

[@robbiecoffie5624]

I’ve ALWAYS been a Ivey guy!

[@michaelpatterson8389]

I was a kid driving to the hole screaming Lindsay as in Lindsay hunter I'm a die hard an these are good times enjoy em

[@KevinWilliams-ci1sh]

Tell on them, Bruh! I go back to the Eric Money Dayz!❤

[@SavantMade]

I have no problem with my guy Ivey, I just want us to get rid of Tobias knees 😂😂🤣🤣😭😭

[@senitastillwell5040]

😂

[@therockneverstops8261]

@@SavantMade 🤣🤣 What’s ironic is Tobias is actually a positive on the court with others because he does a lot of other things really well. If his jump shot was dropping we would be in love with his signing.

[@williamwesley679]

Ivy critics that can’t average ten points on their 40 and up Church league should be silenced lol #PistonFan since Kelley Tripucka

[@detroitfamous7668]

"Make men jump again"

[@therockneverstops8261]

@@detroitfamous7668 🤣

[@jeromepassmore7625]

I was 9 and 10 when the Bad Boy Pistons won back to back. These new basketball fans don't care or want to hear it.

[@therockneverstops8261]

@@jeromepassmore7625 Nope!

[@LeeSohlden]

From the Bing days. Our starting unit makes no sense - specifically THJ being part of it. Looking at 2 man unit data, Duren - Hardaway is minus 12 net rating. Hardaway is very negative with each pairing from the starting unit, the minus 12 with Duren being the worst. Duren has played 700 minutes - 500 of those with THJ in, who is our worst defender. THJ, also is one of our worst in terms of PER, at 9. Duren has a 17 PER, he is not the problem. We have two players, Holland and Thompson, with low PER's, but who play defense well. Besides THJ, Fontecchio should quit playing, a PER of 10, no defense. People pick on Harris - but his 13 PER is not that bad, while his net ratings from two man pairings look fine - if you filter out the minutes where THJ is also out there. Harris and THJ have over 600 minutes together, by the way - at a net rating of minus 9. Look at Harris - Duren - minus 4.5 net rating in 543 minutes. But, filtering out the time where THJ is also out there with them, Harris - Duren is well positive. (apologies, this requires some math - Duren - Harris must be well positive, when playing without THJ, since the THJ - Harris pairing is minus 9, covering the great majority of Harris' minutes, while THJ - Duren is minus 12, covering the great majority of Duren's minutes. Harris has 900 minutes total this season.)

[@therockneverstops8261]

@@LeeSohlden I have been a resounding no for THJ since the trade. Quentin Grimes does so much more as a utility guard like Donte DiVencenzo, they defend, rebound, play-make, facilitate, competitive, high IQ, physical junk yard dog types. This team would have won at least 2-3 more games had he been there instead of THJ adding those elements to this roster.

[@ndnghostkeeper7216]

We have so many flip flop fans i hate it. They don’t understand you can’t skip steps

[@pheralanpathfinder4897]

True. But you also don't need to create bad contracts or give away good young vets like Grimes

[@therockneverstops8261]

@@pheralanpathfinder4897 Grimes and Wiseman were certainly missteps. A healthy Wiseman instead of Paul Reed would be huge and Grimes instead of THJ would have equaled at least 2-3 more wins in those close games where you needed far more than a shooter. Ironically, they would both be perfect offseason acquisition candidates because they address real holes in this roster.

[@CaptainKneegrowMan]

I mean….. if you’re going to lose on purpose for 5 years just to stack up on 18 and 19 yr olds, then you have to be patient enough to develop these dudes until they’re 24- 25 years old otherwise, what was the point of all of that bullsht tanking?

[@therockneverstops8261]

@@CaptainKneegrowMan What’s crazy, every year we see this team, is teams with veterans and no great individual talent are good enough to compete for a playoff spot (Brooklyn Nets). They simply don’t stand a chance to win a Championship, normally, unless they have an All-Time great defense.

[@michaelpatterson8389]

Nah I'm a og I been here since the microwave came

[@therockneverstops8261]

@@michaelpatterson8389 Ehhh!!! Respect ✊🏾

[@OnellHayes]

We should still trade him while we can get something for him or are you going to pay him...?

[@therockneverstops8261]

@@OnellHayes Trade him for who? Yes, I am 100% going to pay the 22yr old freak athlete who can shoot, finish, playmake, has clutch genes, great teammate, clear commitment to the city and team, and is one of the longest tenured players on the team. Do you foresee Ivey not continuing to get better? Not have an all-star level ceiling? Not looking like a legitimate second option?

[@OnellHayes]

@therockneverstops8261 I'm not saying he's weak but people don't trade for people unless they have potential . So I'd trade him and Tobias for a star and a pick

[@OnellHayes]

Couple names that may be tired of their situation: Jamal Murray, Brandon Ingram, Zach Levine