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[@CourtneyMiller-ui8xp]

😳He's not a franchise quarterback that's the thing joy This dude is overrated He is not better than the 49ers quarterback. He's a game manager If he hasn't developed now he's never going to😳😳😳 Did joy play any sports This game is so political That sports media boy, they got a bunch of people.That don't know what they're talking about up there

[@CourtneyMiller-ui8xp]

He is not better than Blake Bortles He is a taller blake bortles I will say this one more time.He will never take the team further then blake If you let a woman be the general manager you'll be broke.She talking bout pay the man

[@CourtneyMiller-ui8xp]

Why is joy on this show😳😳😳

[@giuliani3570]

Why can't they post full shows of SPEAK? I don't have cable. Most other shows I can find online...somewhere. I would even pay for the ability to watch SPEAK. LeShaun McCoy is awesome.

[@33corsaire]

He honestly hasn’t earned it…

[@JayEnigma727]

He has earned it…that’s the MARKET. In a couple of years CJ Stroud will be making even more. It is what it is

[@Really-ej8jt]

He has earned whatever he is being offered

[@33corsaire]

@@JayEnigma727 CJ achieved more his Rookie years than Trevor did the last 3 seasons combined

[@OscarUnrated]

You pay based on what you think they’ll do not what they’ve done

[@leemark63]

After taxes, how much is that a week take home?

[@bigmarshall0997]

50 million dollars? Who he think he kidnapped? Chelsea Clinton? 😂😂😂

[@danieltownsend15]

A starting quarterback in the nfl. If Daniel Jones gets a big contract then he gets one bigger since it’s later lol

[@rustyshackelford]

"...You want some fives with that?"

[@Kevincollins1990]

What is your name? I just want to be able to tell him who's responsible for the death of his daughter because he talk too much.

[@JustCallMeSkii]

😂😂😂😂

[@JustCallMeSkii]

@@Kevincollins1990😂😂😂

[@legitdragon6202]

Ask the Giants about keeping a QB with a playoff win

[@dantheman8152]

Would Giants be better with Lawrence tho?

[@sergiogallardo4457]

Except no one thinks Danny dimes is good.

[@curseyourself13]

The giants signing Daniels was the dumbest thing I've ever seen.. his highest best season was a season with 15 TD .. that's wild bad

[@legitdragon6202]

​@@sergiogallardo4457Giants thought he could be... I guess... 😂. Actually I do see some Jones defenders still who want to blame rest of the team for his play.

[@jimmytwotimez]

@@curseyourself13 The dumb move came when Giants cancelled his 5th year option. The whole point of wanting to get a QB in the 1st round is controlling his career for cheap longer, and especially to see how he develops.

[@JFKMLK]

Joy said going to the playoffs does matter, but when it comes to Dak , they move the goal posts 📫 😂

[@enigma13ff]

Dak has 8 years of shitting the bed in the playoffs. If you are bad in almost every playoff game you ever played that does matter. If beating a 45 Brady is your highlight then maybe you're a bad playoff performer.

[@JFKMLK]

@enigma13ff Dak beat 💓 Russell Wilson and the LOB , had Rodgers beat in the divisional round and the defense allowed A 3rd and 22, down the side lines, and now once Dak runs 🏃‍♂️ Tommy into retirement, he's not the greatest anymore, Tommy was still playing at a high level and all most came back to play one more year, Peyton took 8 years to win his first Super Bowl 🏈, so IG he was shitting the bed too ,all them years

[@JWeezy-eu3cj]

@@JFKMLKPeyton was shittin the bed them first 8 years. (Playoff wise) but he had multiple mvps by then that’s something the organization can lean on. Dak don’t have even close to that resume in his 8 years and his losses are in Dallas not Indianapolis. It’s not about dak, it’s yall that think you gone win the Super Bowl every year with a middle of the pack QB

[@JFKMLK]

@JWeezy-eu3cj Now, all sudden, U wanna start talking about awards 😆, they called Peyton a regular season QB, too, but let's not talk about that

[@gregorywilliams8236]

Liar!!!!!!!! He has not had 8 yrs! Missed basically an entire season! Has all of Dak playoffs games been bad? If you say yes you’re a liar!!!!!

[@JayRichardson1000]

Brock purdy has the biggest 😊 on his face 😂

[@keymikescott2308]

Facts he’s gonna cash out

[@kingmunchtv]

Not really lol Trevor on the open market will make drastically more then Brock on open market

[@keymikescott2308]

Won’t ever know because Brock won’t ever see the open market 😁however Trevor might lol

[@DeCurtaRican]

Yup. Honestly, if Purdy and the 49ers even sniff another SB this year (i.e., reach the NFC Championship game, It’s over! He’s getting a 5-year, $65-70M contract, and Mahomes will get $75-80M. If Russ balls out, he’ll be in that territory too. He will prove that Denver happened because of Denver. And one more thing: Fields will NEVER start over Russ, because Russ won’t leave the coaches any other choice but to start him every game. It’s just the way he’s wired! Seattle Russ is still inside of him. The Steelers and the 49ers won the trade! 😂🤷🏽‍♂️ The Broncos AND the Seahawks lost the trade, as did Pete Carroll.

[@DeCurtaRican]

@@kingmunchtv: Nope! Brock has shown that he has ice water in his veins, and he’s honestly a better QB from a skills standpoint than anyone could’ve imagined. I’m taking Purdy over Lawrence every time, just like I take Joe Montana over Dan Marino every time. People put too much emphasis on measurables and not nearly enough on intangibles.

[@spencermadison]

Potential man isn’t worth the 50.

[@briananderson9650]

I agree but Daniel jones got 40😂😂😂 so I guess😂

[@HardCold-Alquan]

@@briananderson9650 Look how that turned out.

[@alienOG-zh2xs]

It’s the market rate for a borderline top 10 QB in 2024. The market dictates what one is worth. He’s worth whatever teams are willing to pay him.

[@corymorton5290]

@@briananderson9650 i was just about to say this lol

[@rhyno8644]

Why does a franchise that knows they don't plan on making a serious playoff run anytime soon need a 50 mil qb to go with their $5 coach and $2 gm ebt roster in the first place?

[@carloskreek7419]

For the first time, Shady actually speaks something I agree with.

[@vjluarasi1847]

Idk man he has never liked Tlaw. He loves his some Herbert though, and Tlaw sliced up the chargers defense 2nd half. I think the Jags need to let Lawrence shine this year. Open up the playbook he can make every throw.

[@tavonburns3905]

Shiid he bet that stack on the lions winning the division 😁💯💙🤍

[@allabouttheu2182]

Lmao joy gets soo visibly frustrated with Shady's stupid takes. It's hilarious 🤣🤣💯

[@user-bd3zy6wo7l]

She's too simple.

[@tjr2312]

How is his take stupid lol the dude is OKAY

[@leanonme1065]

​@user-bd3zy6wo7l what do you mean

[@loststoryproductions]

Which is wild because she road with shady on EVERY opinion lol

[@dadillonful]

Stupid? Shady spoke nothing but facts

[@OHANA-Beach-Suites-CDO]

James is a cool dude! Point blank …

[@400iz7]

I’m with Shady!! Trevor has been underwhelming. You don’t want to admit that you’re highly projected player isn’t what you thought. Hopefully he improves

[@PhonseyMcjagger]

He’s nice af lol

[@Noname-ps3mq]

Does shady know his oline is dead last in the league

[@BG33917]

@@Noname-ps3mqif u worth 50 million and a franchise qb u should be able to overcome that and atleast be a playoff team. They were so overrated.

[@itsmeflacko1618]

​@@Noname-ps3mq so was Andrew luck and Joe burrow. Good players overcome

[@kakaito1992]

@@itsmeflacko1618 Luck retired because of his injuries and Burrow has been healthy 2 seasons and injured in the other 2.

[@buckwyld218]

50 million too much.

[@123shoshan]

He’s not worth more than 10 million

[@kingspeech2240]

@@123shoshannah he’s more in that baker range. About 25-30 million range

[@demitriuswilliams4729]

Absolutely 💯

[@zachaddington5264]

35 to 40 a year

[@123shoshan]

@@kingspeech2240baker is much better

[@HOUSTON_TEXANS713]

TEXANS fan here. 😂😂 please pay him

[@projectp24]

😂😂😂petty and as a eagles fan I hope they sign dak Prescott to a contract like it too he’s doing a great job carrying on the legacy of losing

[@lashunebrown7405]

😂

[@gilbertgreeniii1706]

DOINk. Lol 🤣🤣

[@bigcurtnumba9798]

Jags fan here we could care less about the Texans

[@bluntsensei]

You say that like CJ Stroud probably won't get 60-70 million a year when it's his turn lol

[@oshagnificent314]

Brock Purdy has played better than Lawrence but people still want to act like Lawrence has played the way he was expected to. He hasn’t. He still has time but this year should let us know

[@martinwalker2501]

This. I get that guys want to get paid, but history has shown that getting the big payday before winning the big dance tends to prevent you from even getting there.

[@hamedsafi7715]

dude is playing in the best rosters in football with the best rb in the league if lawrence was on the niners they would have won back to back sbs right now

[@whenthemaskfalls8591]

Purdy has 6 past/present All-Pros on his offense, dude.

[@CLS_7301]

@@hamedsafi7715so why did the jags start 8-2 and lose 6 or 7 to finish 9-8 if Tlaw is so good?

[@CLS_7301]

@@hamedsafi7715Purdy was the last pic in the draft why didn’t Jimmy G ever finish top 5 in the mvp voting? Why didn’t he ever lead the lg in any statistical category? Purdy lead the NFL in 5 of the 10 major categories actually watch football

[@juniouswooley]

I'm totally with James Jones!

[@kgwilltv3880]

With Shady 100%! Joy can huff and puff all she wants, she is wrong again!

[@agag2684]

How can she be wrong if the jaguars are going to give him 50 million a yr?

[@larryhesterjr8226]

You just as slow as shady 😂 if you think Minshew and Trevor are on the same level

[@mrshakeback9649]

Bad contract Edit: that playoff win was against a Brandon Staley team lmao

[@123shoshan]

And trevur threw 4 picks and chargers dropped 2 picks the second half

[@bmblafamilia7761]

@@123shoshan and 4 TDS

[@kingave9721]

lol but Justin got paid and hasn’t won

[@123shoshan]

@@bmblafamilia7761wow you do realize 4 picks and 4 touchdowns equal out to 64 interceptions and touchdowns a year ? You do realize most teams won’t score only 3 points the second half meaning if chargers scored more than 3 points the second half jaguars lose

[@bmblafamilia7761]

@@123shoshan wth are you talking about you make no sense im talking about this particualar game the 2022 AFC playoff WC game

[@gregorydunston2952]

Joy & others throw around that term “franchise QB” so much that you’d think half the QBs in the league are franchise guys when in all honesty, there’s probably at most, 7-8 guys that are

[@tylerfields6724]

Mahomes,Allen,Burrow,Herbert, Hurts, Jackson, and maybe stroud are the only ones I’m taking to start a franchise around.

[@angelathomas3339]

@@tylerfields6724 Hopefully Herbert will show us something this upcoming season now that he has Harbough as his coach.

[@angelathomas3339]

@@tylerfields6724 I would add Jared Goeff of Detroit Lions to the list of franchise QB's

[@JonathanRodriguez-li9jg]

​@@tylerfields6724Only mahomes is a franchise quarterback these other guys are bums especially hurts and Jackson

[@byronsmith3152]

@@tylerfields6724 It really depends on the system my franchise is running. I would take Purdy over Hurts, Jackson, Allen in the Niners style of offense.

[@chrisheffner4726]

Blake Bortles didn't take that 2017 Jaguars to the AFC Championship. The defense did. Unfortunately, the Jags defense failed them in 2 games against backup quarterbacks in 2023. Those 2 games are won and this is a no brainer of a conversation.

[@123ABC488]

True

[@123ABC488]

Also bortles started throwing INTs like crazy in those games and that's a fact.

[@CourtneyMiller-ui8xp]

blake borders is better😳😳😳😳 Then trevor lawrence

[@aroperdope]

That's what I'm saying. These idiots on KZbin are worse than anyone on TV.

[@user-sb8bn4vq8e]

He has technically won more playoffs games​@@CourtneyMiller-ui8xp

[@jays8664]

His play should dictate his contract not what the market is. This is the reason why there’s a lot of bad contracts in the NFL cause team over valuing the position and hate it when late round guys out perform early rounds picks.

[@oshagnificent314]

Trevor Lawrence should be around baker mayfield money if he wants it before this year. Otherwise ball out and earn it next year

[@zzzkun2526]

I wouldn’t pay him that kinda coin personally

[@juancharlie777]

JJ got the best take. NYG Daniel Jones has better stats than Trevor Lawerence. Check it out for yourself. That said what's wrong with $40M per year that Daniel Jones is getting?

[@vjluarasi1847]

Bro you can’t compare DJ and Tlaw, they are nothing alike. Tlaw by far is way way better

[@wykdancer7128]

D Jones can't throw for sh**

[@LKS-M9323]

That contract is obsolete

[@itsmeflacko1618]

​@@vjluarasi1847that's the thing tho there's no reason they should have even close to the same stats and Jacksonville has had a way better roster. Just shows how disappointing tlaw has been

[@juancharlie777]

​@@itsmeflacko1618 Yes! This was really the only point I was trying to make.

[@nomoney_sniper1885]

Joy got obliterated today 😅😅, she's for sure going to have a drink after work

[@legitdragon6202]

Her default is 'pay him!!!' 'it's the market!!!!', honestly a bit surprised some of the players pushing back, tells me what I need to know how actual players feel, says a lot they don't go with the 'just pay him' narrative

[@mario6150]

Joy didn't get obliterated Jones and shady just hating. And the main reason she didn't get obliterated is the jaguars still gonna give him the money so there arguing is really pointless

[@123ABC488]

Definitely she's drinking a bottle wine as we type lol

[@123ABC488]

​@@mario6150bro you a simp and she did. Trevor sucks period. He hasn't earned that check. By her logic if the house to high then look for another one around the corner. Just because the market price is high doesn't mean you have to pay. Smh

[@mario6150]

@@legitdragon6202 u do no he still gonna get the 50 million a year right

[@LuisRayLewis]

He didn’t earn it!!!!! 35MILL

[@123shoshan]

Way to much he’s not worth more than 10

[@LuisRayLewis]

I agree with you. Lol he would be better in the NFC. Especially if Rodgers and CJ stroud have good years

[@youtubeistryingtocensorme]

It doesn’t matter what you morons think. The truth is teams are willing to pay him 50 mil if the Jags don’t. Being without a franchise quarterback is like being without a head.

[@KcGambit816]

Lord Joy just disagree to disagree sometimes😂. As a life long Chiefs fan we were just as irrelevant as the jags, and titans until Pat. This dumb train of thought of “Oh we gotta pay the Qb, regardless of merit is crazy. SF has shown that if you don’t have a “elite” Qb you can build a team around a good Qb and compete with the best in the league

[@kingsaco]

Ocho, Mark Brunell came to the Jags in 1995. It was their inaugural season.

[@yayofuego]

Finally a sports show that doesn’t treat Trevor like he’s perfect 😂

[@rjofficial7820]

They never do Tlaw is one of the most hated QBS in the league despite having the worst coach oat his first year but also being injured for half a season with that terrible oline he had last year

[@erval9]

@@rjofficial7820 what? Trevor has been the most overhyped QB since before he entered the league. Him and Herbert are loved for their hair, looks, arms strength etc but they rarely point out how overhyped they’ve been maybe until now

[@alexandrom8494]

Sometimes they can be brutal lol i saw his college career and it was a good career but personally trevor Lawrence is a choke artist lol and fumbles

[@Lawrence-sk8tt]

Garbage

[@MrIcognegro]

Great point on Gardner Minshew absolutely.

[@bigcockedman714]

Gardner isn't beating out little aiden

[@Cabooseforprez2012]

Not really. Minshew was entertaining for sure but we saw with the eagles that he could not get things done. With Hurts out and a team that came back from a Super Bowl appearance, he failed to close out the season and win just 1 game. Minshew is very accurate and safe with the ball but he’s never going to win the game for you.

[@MrIcognegro]

@Cabooseforprez2012 That is a good point.

[@tharealg.2728]

Dak, Lamar, had to wait ✋️

[@tregainsfitness4928]

Just watching the hypocrisy spill out of people mouths and literally go directly against what they've said in the past on the exact same show is insane

[@michaelmokatsane6250]

Why did it become so akward when shady said "i guess yall rock now"😂😂😂to joy and acho

[@user-bd3zy6wo7l]

Looks like something happened between those 3

[@biggblack5]

😂 😂 😂 😂

[@michaelmokatsane6250]

I really think so too😂😂Acho and Joy🤔😂

[@michealjordan808]

Joy hates echo ever since he told the truth about Jalen hurts that's why he said that , she wanted to stab him sitting next to him when he Gave brutal honesty on Halen career so far

[@tigersteeth29]

50 is too much. Give him that Kirk contract.

[@Kharmatos13]

Cousin's got 50 mill, derpy.

[@tigersteeth29]

@@Kharmatos13 45 million a year. That’s still too much. Maybe Daks current contract is better. 40 million a year should make Trevor bite. Jags should get it done sooner rather than later before Trevors head blows up after putting up better numbers next season.

[@Kentre.2]

@@Kharmatos13he didn’t lol

[@Semi_11]

I’m with shady on this one. He and tua are on the same level to me and I may even give tua the edge right now at this moment. And that playoff win means nothing

[@dadarkknight36310]

Lmao Tua is way better than Lawrence my dude. Tua was putting up better numbers throwing to people you have not heard of while having a terrible oline and a coach that did not want him. Ask Mike geski how he felt without Tua. Ask Trent Sheffield how he feels. Tua has been in the mvp race two seasons in a row.

[@Noctem_pasa]

@@dadarkknight36310lmao what

[@legitdragon6202]

Exactly Daniel Jones has a playoff win, see how that's working out for them 😂 (Before anyone comes at me, Trevor is better than Daniel, just point is paying someone elite $$ for not accomplishing much - not sure why when people are arguing for a massive deal, 1 playoff win is some massive achievement, a minimum of like 7-8 QBs do that every year.

[@HockeyDudeJames2]

Dude no just no. Waddle? Tyreek? ​@@dadarkknight36310

[@gilbertgreeniii1706]

Man y'all just mad hating cuz y'all know your quarterback couldn't come back from a 27-0 deficit ... They're only about 5-6 teams in the entire league that wouldn't trade their quarterback right now for Trevor Lawrence.

[@123ABC488]

He threw 4 int in that game one playoff game. Bortles took them to the afc championship threw 3 int was gone the following year.

[@blackanimelover18]

He also threw 4 TDs and brought them back.

[@123shoshan]

@@blackanimelover18You realize 95% of time a qb throws 4 picks he loses the chargers only scored 3 points the second half

[@SmokeNMirrors600]

Blake was garbage lol

[@LivingOutVariousExperiences]

@@blackanimelover18 🧢 defense brought us back

[@TheForbiddenOne55]

Lmfao see somebody been paying attention

[@user-xu6xn7hh5i]

They Complaining About Dak Getting Paid But Lawrence Has Done Nothing

[@kingave9721]

lol Dak has 2 playoff wins Trevor has 1 in a God awful situation yea ok

[@MikePSU]

Dak is who Dak is. We still don't know what TLaw necessarily is. I'd wait until after this year to decide what to do with him.

[@kingave9721]

@@MikePSU na pay him we need to keep in-house talent

[@naamanjackson637]

No where near what dak has done

[@kingave9721]

@@naamanjackson637 Dak hasn’t done anything 😂

[@123shoshan]

This is so stupid so we’re not counting his first season because urban Meyer was seen at a bar with a girl ? What does that have to do with Trevor making awful decisions and overthrowing guys ?

[@Travis89-ob5tt]

You don't know the history if you think that's the worst Meyer did that year.

[@123shoshan]

@@Travis89-ob5ttoh sorry he forgot a players name

[@dashawnthomas9333]

FACTS!!!

[@Travis89-ob5tt]

@@123shoshan he hired a coach from Iowa who was fired for "being racist" He compared the NFL to playing Bama every week He called the WR's "slow in the head" because they're from the south. That led to a lot of problems with the WR room He called his assistant coaches losers He kicked a kicker lol He pulled James Robinson who was a 1k rusher his rookie and one of the few bright spots Then he was finally fired after 14 games. Yep he did nothing wrong but skip the flight home and stay in Columbus to drink and get caught fondling a young lady. 🤣

[@Travis89-ob5tt]

He also kicked a kicker for talking back Hired a strength coach who was famously fired from Iowa for being racist Called his assistant coaches losers Called the WR's stupid because they're from the south. Compared the NFL to playing Bama every week But yes staying in Columbus rather than flying home with his team to get caught on camera drinking and fondling women who are not your wife? Yeah that will make an entire football team lose respect for you immediately. Who knew?? 🤣

[@rojoloco]

Before we can compare pre-McDaniel Tua to post-McDaniel Tua, we need to look at what the circumstances were before. Brian Flores didn't want Tua and had him hamstrung. In addition, Tua was still dealing with a lingering injury for his first year and early part of his second year. When McDaniel came in, he was finally on a team that wanted him and let him play ball. That's naturally going to create a different type of player. It's not just that he got weapons and a strong coach. It's that he got all that while also finally being allowed to be himself.

[@brentoneil7267]

He's loved by the media that's why he's a franchise quarterback lol 🤣🤣

[@Jp-do9ny]

Loved by who? Nobody likes him lol

[@akeredun]

It's the goldilocks syndrome. Trev is a whole lotta hype.

[@TheForbiddenOne55]

​@@Jp-do9nythe media. For his first 3 seasons he's labeled as "generationally talented QB"... this is the first year the media is actually (finally) questioning that moniker and calling him for what he's shown to be thus far; an ok QB.

[@thomasisrael673]

Why is Joy ALWAYS about overpaying unproven quarterbacks?

[@Really-ej8jt]

Because she understands the finances which appears nobody else does.

[@JFKMLK]

Yet don't want the MVP finalists to get paid, she said don't pay him

[@123ABC488]

Shes an outsider just pandering. So then when the jags broke she will say "they should have never paid him" type iish smh.

[@123ABC488]

​@@Really-ej8jt no she doesn't that's wild assumption. Just because the market price is set doesn't mean you have to buy in. Either negotiate or go shopping around the corner. Stop simping. Don't pay for bad stock you'll go broke that way smh stop simping

[@thesportsfanatic2106]

whats there other option.

[@Marshmallox43]

Saying "X should get paid because Y got paid" is just not a good argument. I see lawrence sitting at 45 and think thats a good deal for him and the team. I think if he is gone you will find the next TL, not that hard.

[@fkscopes]

If anything they should be like no way we paying you more than Mahomes. KC got real lucky to have the best QB and also willing to take much less than he could have

[@123shoshan]

Please explain why Trevor should be paid more than 10 million?

[@Marshmallox43]

@@123shoshan because he wont sign for 10 million. And if he doesnt do that the jags have no qb and despite him being not great he is still the best option they have. 43-45 is something i can see him agree to and is still far from top money which is benefical for both parties

[@fkscopes]

@@123shoshan 30 mil should maybe be the standard for guys like Trevor, Dak, Cousins, Tua. Solid qbs but who haven't proven they can put a team on their back. The QB position is way too valuable overall to only pay 10. Good backups get close to 10 right now

[@tigera6]

@@123shoshan Then let him go and see him signed elsewhere.

[@33corsaire]

Joy…. It’s not anchored that they want him later!!! He’s in arguably the worse division in the AFC and he’s 17-16 the last 2 years

[@123shoshan]

He’s 20-30

[@33corsaire]

@@123shoshanI’m being nice and not counting the urban year. But even if you exclude… 17-16 in the AFC south is nothing special

[@123shoshan]

@@33corsaire So Trevor making terrible decisions and overthrowing guys and ignoring wide open receivers is because urban Meyer who’s an excellent football mind was seen at a bar with a girl please stop Trevor was just as bad in 2023 as 2021 which shows it had nothing to do with urban

[@Darsam88]

AFC South isnt the worst divisnion in football, maybe 2 seasons ago. And why are we acting like the Jags have a great roater around him. Him and a lot of his offensive teammates were injured for most of his season. No Zay Jones for most of the season, same with Kirk. Both of his LTs missed significant time while already being one of the worst olines in the league, his Center was the worst or second worst starting Centers in the league, and the defense that couldnt stop anyone through the air. While the team was still relatively healthy they were 8-2 and tied for the #1 seed, then he got a couple major injuries that really limited his play. Regardless of the record in 22-23 season he played well, was nearly top 10 by the end of the season.

[@33corsaire]

@@Darsam88 in the AFC it is… literally every other division has more depth

[@angelathomas3339]

Acho's never ceases to amaze me with some of his takes

[@pjdava]

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[@jeromehoward1249]

He's worth it!!! Every bit.

[@yahcrack]

PEOPLE WANT TO GIVE TLAW EXCUSES BUT TRASH EVERY OTHER QB 🥴

[@6god999]

Its crazy how lenient they are with him yet with Herbert omg its the end of the world 🤣😂😅

[@tonysmith8520]

Preach my brother frfr and I’m from Jacksonville

[@cwagsr7189]

The house thing was a great analogy

[@dangelobrown87]

Blake Bortles was carried by that jags defense who was number 1 weak argument Shady

[@ktm1984]

Straight facts

[@Sonofawildanimal4241]

The BOAT!!

[@tybo31316]

I think people forget what the Jags were before he got there

[@datruth9078]

What have the Jags been since he has gotten there

[@tybo31316]

@@datruth9078 to the playoffs, won a playoff game, and could have done it again if the front office didn’t rest on their laurels. They whiffed on the last off season and it cost them.

[@123ABC488]

In the same place

[@123ABC488]

​@@tybo31316 bro stop! He threw 4 int in that game. He lucky the chargers always stop charging after half lol they lost to the chiefs even though they hurt Patrick lol with nobody receivers and Chad henne drove down the field 95 yds and a td. Stop the madness. Last year they were 8-3 and coach and Trevor said we lost but we still ahead no biggie. They lost every game after that. Only need one win out of the finally 3 to go to playoffs as afc south leaders. Smh you must not watch the games

[@vjluarasi1847]

@@123ABC488you must have forgot Tlaw was hurt like half of the season last year. That’s why we fell flat in our face from the 8-3 start.

[@21DBZ23]

He’s a franchise QB. Y’all just impatient when it comes to player development. Jaguars got it right.

[@123ABC488]

Naw

[@brycehoward4139]

Definitely isn’t

[@gilbertgreeniii1706]

​@@123ABC488 you proved you don't watch jags football

[@gilbertgreeniii1706]

​@@brycehoward4139 Trust me. Any other team outside of 5-6 teams. Would pay him in a heartbeat.......most people don't know business and don't understand football

[@BigGameJInPhilly]

Facts. When Doug called plays he put he in a position to win and he won 7 straight games into the playoffs.

[@f3rnandoll]

Why did they throw shade at Herbert? I’ll watch a Chargers game every now and then and be shocked that they somehow lose despite putting up 30+ points offensively.

[@jctslice]

Not yet. He hasn't proven to be the generational QB that he was hyped up to be. He needs to prove more before I pay him

[@gilbertgreeniii1706]

"I' Lol 🤣🤣😆🤣. "I pay him "😂😂😂 It's not your money why do you care It's not your money..........

[@oshagnificent314]

The Doctor tripping on this one. Wrong! That boy ain’t worth $50 mil. Not yet anyway

[@mattjones1378]

$50M sounds fair. Sign him now to that because if management waits, it's going to get higher and cost more for the Jaguars front office. Duuuuvaaaaal

[@christophercarl6708]

Good discussion!!

[@martinwalker4320]

I agree with Shady oddly, Gardner Minshew and Trevor are on the same level

[@gilbertgreeniii1706]

B.S. There are only 5-6 teams in the NFL that wouldn't trade for Trevor Lawrence.......can't say the same for Gardner......these people are funny 😂😂

[@dockoats9229]

You crazy so why didn’t the jags keep him then when drafting tlaw?

[@carloskreek7419]

I love how if it was dak, the bash on him. But, since it's Trevor Lawrence, Joy makes excuses that it's ok that he has been to the playoffs, and 1 playoff win. 🤔🤦🏾‍♂️

[@blackanimelover18]

Dak been in the league 8 years, he is what he is. Trevor is only 24, he's younger than some of the QBs that just got drafted in the first round this year.

[@carloskreek7419]

@blackanimelover18 Peyton Manning was in year 10 before he broke through. You are correct about Trevor, but it's like Joe Burrow. Awesome talent, but injury history won't help if he can't stay on the field.

[@marti6641]

Jags fans: I agree with both side that he should or shouldn't be paid that much. Regardless of what happens of what happens with his pay, people who are familiar with Jaguars history know how special he is and expect THIS to be his year.

[@mtf88]

Shady is how all the fans feel around the NFL about QBs lol

[@CreaseChannel]

Give Trevor Lawrence Waddle and Tyreek see what happen. That dude won a playoff game with MARVIN JONES and ZAY JONES. Foh.

[@gr3415]

Waddle ain't even a pro bowler. Gtfoh with the excuses. He's overhyped TRASH

[@ryanlebard3787]

Remind who Blake Bortles was throwing to when they made the AFC championship game ?

[@enigma13ff]

@@ryanlebard3787 You see that All Star defense, BB was game managing. He also threw that wobbler that Gilmore easily tipped. The offense was not carrying the team.

[@thedonmega91]

That same game where he threw 4ints in the first half and the other team had one of the worst head coaches in the last 10 years… foh

[@hamedsafi7715]

no one realizes this part dude has had the worst wr group for his career

[@ShaqsBlurryVisionNetwork]

What about Garrard or Leftwich??

[@yoboymalc4432]

Neither were good as Brunnell

[@vjluarasi1847]

Garrard had heart of a lion, and leftwich took 3 hours to get his throwing motion started. Brunell by far was the best qb for the jags.

[@fnz2654]

It’s very telling hearing how joy talks about vs how she talked about Justin…..

[@dockoats9229]

We beat him twice

[@cypriancox]

It's early Sunday morning and I've got nothing else to do so I'm listening to this. Whatever the market deserves is what this guy should get.

[@33corsaire]

You can get 3 more years of Trevor Lawrence… between his 4th year, the 5th year option and a franchise tag… Trevor has been meh while making little… pay him a lot of money… you can’t surround him with any more talent…. He’ll be worse! Not better

[@larryjordan23]

Stafford was the highest paid and never won a playoff game at the time. So this is the market, no matter how dumb it is

[@nevillecoley4976]

Joy is absolutely correct 100 percent you have to pay your franchise QB and sooner the better

[@KrisRobinson]

Wait so you CAN'T ignore that 1 playoff win (1 game) but you CAN ignore his entire first year, AND all the other games they've lost?!?

[@nickx4576]

They ain’t never moving off Lawrence

[@123shoshan]

Why not ?

[@gilbertgreeniii1706]

Because more than half of the teams in the league will trade their number one QB right now for him

[@jukemjamie5878]

They will never win anything with him.

[@Sonofawildanimal4241]

Trevor Lawrence is a perfect brand. He and his team know that. He is going to be successful

[@hays0939]

lol Herbert made the mid qb market awful

[@Chrism7178]

Herbert mid?🤣🤣 you dont know football

[@jamesalexanderiii]

He led the team to a playoff victory in he’s the future of the jaguars

[@texas8475]

He’s not worth it

[@tonymcclendon3128]

Everyone except like 3-4 guys are overpaid. It’s time to stop getting so mad at the market. They have to pay anyone that’s average or better like they are top 5.

[@123shoshan]

Really so then why not actually get a good qb if your going to spend that type of money

[@tonymcclendon3128]

Because there’s only 3-4 QBs like I said and you’ll take 10-years trying to find him. You’re picking from the same talent pool as everyone else. You don’t wanna be in QB no man’s land as well🤷🏾‍♂️

[@123shoshan]

@@tonymcclendon3128dude he’s a below average qb you can find millions of better qb

[@billmurray4739]

For what???????

[@Macstechtoybox]

Lamar had a unanimous MVP, took his team to the playoffs every year and we were debating last year if he should get less than this.... And this guy has done what again? And he is worth more than lamar???? Comeon

[@CoachLen25]

Shady is basically saying he hasn’t shown the potential. A playoff win and a close game vs the chiefs isn’t enough. Herbert has shown way more flashes of potential

[@a93456358]

Joy Taylor's analogy was spot on about the home.

[@cgway89]

Good discussion. He hasn't earned it. Jags should not make the mistake that other teams have with their overpaid QB.

[@ahastar1141]

Jags are gonna be the giants in 2026. Over paid QB and ready to look elsewhere

[@karenhardie1132]

It's what the market is now. It's difficult to find a qb. Who else are they going to get ?

[@jwynter5857]

There are QBs that got drafted THIS year that are as old as T Law....

[@yoboymalc4432]

I think this is the best Trevor Lawrence will be. You’re not gonna get better than Ridley, Kirk, Engram and Etienne and a good oline. Lawrence numbers should’ve been much better than they were. He ain’t worth no 50 m’s

[@dockoats9229]

Stop it after 3 years

[@123shoshan]

Gardner minshew is making 5 million a year and he’s better than Trevor explain why Trevor is worth more than 10 million

[@user-oh6sx7cp4c]

Except he factually isn't, minshews career is over, he's a backup for the raiders

[@123shoshan]

@@user-oh6sx7cp4cwrong minshew is 28 years old and has a career 90 qb rating Trevor has a career 85 qb rating

[@user-oh6sx7cp4c]

@@123shoshan way to cherry pick a stat making it irrelevant, minshew is a mediocre backup who can't win as a starter

[@123shoshan]

@@user-oh6sx7cp4c and Trevor is worse

[@gilbertgreeniii1706]

​@@123shoshanthat's not what the entire NFL league believes .... So who should we believe you or all the other teams outside of maybe 5 that would trade there number one QB for Trevor right now

[@HardCold-Alquan]

If I were in control, I would not approve that. I would prefer to try out a rookie.

[@Cabooseforprez2012]

Well there might just be a reason you’re not an NFL GM

[@terencew7716]

Wow that's crazy

[@anthoneykarimbey6156]

T-Law ain’t it

[@gilbertgreeniii1706]

The fact of the matter is there there only about 5-6 teams in the entire league that wouldn't trade their quarterback right now for Trevor Lawrence😂😂😂😂 oh yeah. He is definitely that man

[@bigt1640]

Kinda agree... Lamar, Josh, Herbert, Mahomes, Dak and Stroud im not trading him for. He on Goff talent level..

[@anthoneykarimbey6156]

@@bigt1640 Trevor Lawerence is not a top 10 Qb…. Sorry to break it to you

[@markymark512]

Mahomes Burrow Lamar Allen Tua Cousins Stroud Stafford Dak Love Goff Purdy Herbert All better QBs than Trevor Lawrence.. paying him that much is crazy

[@dadarkknight36310]

Love that list. I would put stroud and tua as a tie.

[@Noctem_pasa]

Give me TLaw over dak and Tua. Rest are acceptable, though stroud is admittedly some hard projection

[@harrellwilliams5010]

The fact that you got cousin, Tua, and dak ahead of Goff is criminal smh

[@markymark512]

@@harrellwilliams5010 these are all qbs better than Lawrence in no order

[@jakobfries9078]

Shady at the end proved he didn’t watch or remember the playoff win. Trevor absolutely won that game WITH his arm.

[@ppearson35N]

11:00 what have the Jags done before Trevor and after Trevor? That kills the whole argument

[@freddygaulman5493]

Here comes the "its what the market dictates" narratives because its a 1st rounder who yall hyped up as the next Brady😂😂😂

[@legitdragon6202]

Gotta love when the "its the market!!!" people act like 1 playoff win and a 1/2 a good season is some massive accomplishment to get elite money 😂

[@sergiogallardo4457]

@@legitdragon6202Herbert got elite money with a loaded team and he’s never won a playoff game.

[@legitdragon6202]

​@sergiogallardo4457 oh I know. People are stuck in a cycle of overpaying certain QBs because they want to blame everyone else, yet don't understand somehow once you pay a player you can't use the 'rest of the pieces around him' excuses when he gets his 'bAg!!!!"

[@123shoshan]

The guy is a cancer to the franchise he couldn’t win a single game the final 5 regular season games all must win games

[@dockoats9229]

He was hurt smh

[@omnitamer5690]

They good with playin certain QBs for only gettin so far.

[@A.j.Harris]

Lets not forget how Almighty Shady benefited off DeSean Jackson touching defensive backs, making Shadys work easier. Jackson was hands down the superstar on that eagle's team.

[@charlesjones1588]

Quite a spirited exchange.

[@lamontbillingslb]

What a time to be a an average quarterback

[@tylerprince3496]

JUST BECAUSE HES A FRANCHISE GUY AND ITS TIME TO GET PAID, DOESNT MEAN YOU HAVE TO MAKE HIM THE HIGHEST PAID. Stop overpaying mediocre starting QBs.

[@senorguzman8]

Pant suit Joy be coming w a different energy 😂 I like it tho

[@Lawrence-sk8tt]

Joy was about to swallow her tongue 👅 when Shady was talking.

[@thomasharris5467]

Best 25 moment all facts

[@KennyPowers.]

Shady doesn't care about the playoffs because in his two sb runs, almost any QB you can think of during their sb run has rushed for more YARDS than shady, including Rodgers the man he loves to hate 🤙🏽

[@god_speed0949]

11:25 that’s because he was injured like 85 percent of last year. And his WR and O line was banged up all year long