What I really like about this channel is the fact that Jake never fakes a shot. No over exaggeration, but "this is what you do - this is what you get". 👍
@digitaldogs233 Жыл бұрын
I'm from uk, but yes this is my go to channel for advice outside of the real world because he's really good at explaining thing's, and never fakes it.
@cavetroll2 жыл бұрын
This has been one of my more difficult changes in more. Form. Bad habits take seconds to learn but ages to correct. Thanks for breaking this down so well Jake
@JakeKaminskiArchery2 жыл бұрын
Glad to help, let me know if it helps.
@cavetroll2 жыл бұрын
@@JakeKaminskiArchery so far so good. Definitely seeing an improvement overall
@digitaldogs233 Жыл бұрын
Wow I just realised i was putting my arrow on the wrong side of my bow!!! Im right handed but got a ambidextrous bow, so i was putting my arrow on the right side of the bow, wow yes sir this is why you are my go too channel for archery even though im from uk youre videos are really helpful.
@HoneyBeagleАй бұрын
This is perfect! Completely explains why I shoot low and left 90 prevent of the time and high right occasionally. I can't wait to get home and try to work through this
@massimomagli92442 жыл бұрын
Best Archery Channel on KZbin.
@srmjr42002 жыл бұрын
Great video, per usual, Jake. This video is incredibly important to a developing archer. I wish I would have seen this about a couple of years ago when I first started archery. For well over a year, I was gripping the bow EXACTLY like how you show NOT to do it. I thought I'd seen several olympic style archers gripping the bow that way, not realizing that they were simply using bows designed with an extremely high grip. So I started using the same grip, but on a very low grip compound bow. Not only did I have all the problems you articulate here and a horrible side to side wobble, worse, I developed serious bicep tendon tendonitis, though at the time I had no idea what was causing it. Ironically, it was when I started shooting a bare bow with a medium grip that I begin to understand the problem. The draw weight of the bare bow made it clear that I couldn't hold that pivot point grip steady, so I had to put pressure lower on the grip. After that EVERYTHING got better - including my shoulder.
@brianglass Жыл бұрын
My groups tightened up significantly in my first shooting session after watching this. In addition, the full draw position felt much more stable and thus easier to hold for longer. But Jake didn't lie! The arrows go higher. I shot several over my deer target and spent a good while hunting for them in the woods. Shoot low on your first few tries with the new grip.
@adambice13212 жыл бұрын
I think someone with the knowledge and experience Jake Kaminski has should have their own equipment line. I would definitely buy a 27" Kaminski barebow riser
@billcharlene14502 жыл бұрын
I watched a video of yours a while ago about fitting the grip to you which ended in me sanding my Satori grip way down and adding a grove for my middle finger to get my elbow rotated out...not only did my accuracy drastically improve but pretty much threw away my arm guard too. Big thanks!!!
@steveruis10552 ай бұрын
A couple of things you left out. Those archers who shot an Olympic bow with a high wrist built up their grips so that they didn't need to use muscle to hold their wrist in position. These modified grips also reduced any variation in the angle of hand to bow. Also, what you are calling the "pressure point" is actually called the center of pressure (COP) because the hand puts pressure on the bow everywhere it touches it. The center of that area is the point called the COP. In Rick McKinney's book he asked quite a number of talented archers to describe their COPs (illustrated).
@ananda_miaoyin Жыл бұрын
I like your channel. I am just getting back into archery after a VERY long break. Like a no Internet long break! Grabbed a 40 pounder recurve and set up an archery course on my land. The tech has really changed since I used a handmade 65 pound long bow that was so huge, I had to angle it to shoot it....and I am 6 foot 2! Anyway, never was able to access instruction, so happy that so many people seem to be into this sport and kicking down knowledge. I am a rock climber, so forearm fatigue is not an issue with archery but damn, the tips of my left shoulder and my right bicep....
@robbiecox5014 Жыл бұрын
Bout time someone put out a video on this. I have been struggling on this. So I watched this video and got itchy , grab my bow and went out. Finally got all arrows to hit vertically. Usually I’m off right to left a few inches either way. If I’m off now is cause I misjudged distance. I’m a bare bow shooter so it definitely help me. Gave me a more solid and controlled shot. Thanks Jake
@ΠΑΝΑΓΙΩΤΗΣΧΩΡΑΪΤΗΣ Жыл бұрын
Perfect sound.Perfect tuning
@mysticnathan2 жыл бұрын
I've noticed off and on, and particularly this week, that I sometimes lose pressure point contact. AND I've noticed inconsistent clicker trip. So now I'll pay closer attention to the two. So thank you for this timely (at least for me) instruction!
@dk73us12 жыл бұрын
It's amazing the different ways a particular aspect of technique can be explained and interpreted. I must have watched your other videos discussing the grip a hundred times and somehow missed the key point of how to get into the grip.....push into the throat first, then settle into the pressure point. Thank you for reiterating/clarifying/highlighting again in this video. Looking forward to the next one.
@nurbaiti_hikaru2 жыл бұрын
I always learn something new from this channel. Even "simple thing' yet very important. Thank you.
@FvanBal5 ай бұрын
I don't know if you did it on purpose, or if it was accidental, but I just love your outro. If you focus on the dots as if it were a 3D image, you see the other items floating at some distance in front of them. Furthermore, I love your video's. I've only been shooting for 'bout 2 months, but I believe that thanks to your videos, I've made a lot of progress which otherwise I would not have made this fast. I haven't really been browsing through your videos just yet, but I wonder if you have any video's (now or planned for the future) on how to set-up and fine-tune a (recurve)bow.
@janchlupsa3573 Жыл бұрын
you are my savior mike I did it exactly the way it shouldn't. Thanks, I'm becoming a regular subscriber. Thanks
@CylitheraGreywolf2 жыл бұрын
This is what I needed to figure out where my consistency went, especially after a shoulder / wrist / hand injury I had in May.
@tradhntr642 жыл бұрын
I am the exception LoL! not by choice my left hand is held to my arm by a 7 inch titanium plate and 8 screws due to a severe injury and total fusion. right hand is a partial fusion and not strong enough to hold the riser safely but can pull and hold a string safely. I'm able to Hunt and target shoot, I am able to string walk shoot barebow and compound, I probably will not be setting any record scores but its about having a good time with family and friends. Very informative and useful video as usual Sir! I am looking to getting back into local competition shooting, looking at both the Sanlida and the Exceed, I've shot Hoyt for many years so I am a little Biased but the Miracle looks good!
@dustydustydusty2 жыл бұрын
Damnit I am pretty much doing all of that. Noticed I have been collapsing form and getting some odd consistency. Got lost in comment and now I got to watch video again. Saved.
@archerybob12 жыл бұрын
Always fun to see Jake learning how to KZbin better :)
@leonkwei2473 Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@JakeKaminskiArchery Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the Super Thanks!
@hutchieboy2422 жыл бұрын
Just getting back to shooting after some time off and did notice the arrows rising and falling and remembered that I had gotten into the habit of "adjusting" the contact in that area. Thank you for the insight.
@vickysemple4671 Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to putting this into practice this weekend.
@jamesb813 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the advice young man it really has helped an old guy like me I appreciate the help anywhere I can get it..
@MikeTroy74 Жыл бұрын
Jake, this is hugely helpful. I have a BowTech Reckoning Gen 2 39 with adjustable grip and I think it's time to bring the pressure point out some in the morning. Thanks! 👊🏼🎯
@AnotherBradGuy2 жыл бұрын
I love how you give out information. You can tell you've taught a few people how to shoot right before! Your fletching videos have been especially helpful for me lately, but I've actually been working on my pressure point lately so good timing
@adublbeatz8656 Жыл бұрын
This gave me life....my shots would be all over the place...mainly left...applied this this...TODAY....grouped 5 arrows two inches 40 yards....4 times.....smh...man...
@matthewwilliams7472 жыл бұрын
Just started Archery this video is perfect. Extremely basic but so important! Great explanation thank you!
@CARYN06052 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for explaining this!
@stats19812 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video as always, perfect timing too, just a few weeks ago i realised that my grip wasn't consistent and needed work, but, i didn't know what it should look like. As ever your video will be invaluable. Thank you
@juliobarkan95292 жыл бұрын
Great video. My arrow placement has always been left of the gold. I struggled to figure out what to do. Adjusting my sights didn’t work. Now this video has given me a process to fix my problem and give me a more consistent shot. Thanks
@JCzz06032 жыл бұрын
Was having some problems with my grip and this is exactly what I needed, thank you!
@carlaroseli2 жыл бұрын
Valeu!
@geek12172 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the timestamps.
@craigrich4124 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant video. Been struggling with this. Great info
@BobDorfman2 жыл бұрын
Great video. As always, I learned something more to improve my shooting.
@sng-bycel64712 жыл бұрын
Great video tutorial! Keep up the good work, legend. Very clear and accessible! ////////////////////////////////// greetings from Belarus.
@AbdElrahmanMohamad5362 жыл бұрын
Super cool video that made me more aware of the feel in my grip thank u jake
@maettsook2 жыл бұрын
I'm better than Jake at 30m! Great video Jake, i' m getting so much help from your channel. Thank you so much.
@ZephrusPrime2 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see your review of the new Hoyt Axia limbs and the Formula XD.
@JakeKaminskiArchery2 жыл бұрын
Hopefully they send me one!
@bellaconboy4542 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. This is exactly what I’m struggling with rn.
@LimDul2 жыл бұрын
I've been doing archery for over 8 years now (olympic at first, now traditional) and I have to say that I struggled with an improper grip for a while too. Another problem with pushing at the pivot point is that you stress the area between your thumb and forefinger quite a bit instead of distributing it evenly - this can result in a sore spot after prolonged sessions. I also found that for beginners pushing into the grip properly tends to align the elbow properly more often while an improper grip often results in the elbow rotating down - maybe because of the other muscles being activated instead of everything relying on the skeletal structure.
@patrikioskoskinas3308 Жыл бұрын
I actually just took a college course in archery, and I excelled at my form very quickly. But about half way through the semester I started noticing that I was having the exact issue you mentioned, sadly I only now fixed it thanks to this video. Do you have any tips you might pass down to a newbie archer like me?
@LimDul Жыл бұрын
@@patrikioskoskinas3308 Only to never stop consciously thinking about your form and even after getting the basics right continue to change and tweak things, maybe one thing at a time, to see what works for you. I am not a competitive archer, I shoot traditionally at 3d ranges, but it's still more satisfying to hit your target than to miss, right? Some people get set in their ways early on and then even after 20 years of shooting have very poor form and poor results - don't do that! There's always stuff to learn and improve!
@manivelv92182 жыл бұрын
Very nice video and very useful.. Thanks for the step by step explanation🙏🙏
@jake41942 жыл бұрын
This helps allot, thanks for the video!
@svtcontour2 жыл бұрын
best archery channel!
@anilpatil70702 жыл бұрын
Very good information about bow grip. Please give the same information about Elbow Turn of bow hand. In today's video, your elbow is seen to be turning forever. Please make and send a detailed video of what could be his technique...
@highnitro7072 жыл бұрын
great video! I liked and subscribed. Would be interesting to see this demo on different grips with emphasis on arrow stability, flight path, etc. rather than precision/accuracy/POI.
@yukiousuzumi2595 Жыл бұрын
I shoot a wooden traditional recurve. My grip is not made perfectly symmetrical and I think it's made on purpose. So while I try to push into the pressure point, I'm effectively pushing towards the right, and I have some very interesting result: when I shoot light feather-fletched arrows (also too stiff), they drift waaay right. This is not much of a problem when I shoot heavier vane-fletched arrows. But this might also has to do with my arrow rest which.
@jonruku5232 жыл бұрын
Learn alot from this❤💛💚
@canerandagio8603 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing! very usefull! 🙂
@jeffberens16512 жыл бұрын
The best and most stable grip can actually be seen from 1:02 - 1:12 xD
@akitake_2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the videos because if I had to rely on the people in my club I'd know nothing.
@cafeconflechas2 жыл бұрын
It's so funny watching you struggling to do things incorrectly and still making what to me are pretty good shots. You need me in your videos to illustrate mistakes! Seriously, thanks for all the great videos. I do have a question, what are you looking at when you look down just before you release the arrow? (7:15)
@petera.77552 жыл бұрын
Clicker Control
@Voxguitarsrock2 жыл бұрын
Great information. Thank you!
@santhiyapei55704 ай бұрын
Hi Jake, I love your channel! question: I noticed a difference between Korean Olympic archers and Western archers in terms of grip, ie Western looks more like your style. Same in terms of elbow placement in the drawing arm as per your other video on wrist. shoulder, elbow alignment. Looks like their elbow is more to the outside than in a straight line. Any thoughts? thanks!
@rapidfire42022 жыл бұрын
My MXT-10 broke yesterday on full draw... I shivered for at least one hour. W&W is going to replace them
@JakeKaminskiArchery2 жыл бұрын
Glad they are taking care of you. Freak things happen.
@thekayakingarcher79482 жыл бұрын
How does hand size affect this? I have a tiny hand, but bow grips are one size fits all. Great timing on this video, I’ve been trying to follow your advice.
@Gahblins_2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making all these videos! I'm brand new to the sport, so all the information you give has been so helpful! It's hard to find information online and the people at the shop nearby aren't the most approachable when it comes to newbies.. Looking into ILF risers and limbs are so complicated for me because that information seems to go right over my head.. are all ILF risers and limbs compatible with each other?
@spaghettibadger6472 жыл бұрын
Yes There is some variance on tolerances so sometimes getting limbs out can be tricky, but you should be able to shoot any ILF kit with anything else.
@dme76892 жыл бұрын
OMG..... did this make a difference!
@JakeKaminskiArchery2 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped!
@amrazing33 Жыл бұрын
Great video as always. I recently realise that I have some kind of problem with my grip, that is, my hand always seem to slide up even though I have been using those rubber wrap to minimise the problem. Any tips on that?
@petredinga1649 Жыл бұрын
I use this everyday. I recommend you buying this.
@lubossoltes3212 жыл бұрын
This is something I am struggling with. My grip position is highly inconsistent. I cannot seem to find that one comfortable grip that works for me ... EDIT: I finally had some time to train and focused mostly on this topic. I have to say it really helped a ton. MY shooting was more consistent and much less fatigue in the bow arm after the training.
@SelectBG2 жыл бұрын
OK. How to buy your limb bolts?
@lcjjr.6714 Жыл бұрын
Jake, Besides hand placement - how hard should you actually grip the bow?
@farhanarief75072 жыл бұрын
whats your finger tab ?
@AlreadyAUser2 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate the information you give Jake. I've been focusing a lot on my grip lately and have noticed that sometimes I strike my forearm. Knowing you cant see me shoot, does anything come to mind that I might be doing which forces my forearm into the path of the string?
@oogiesmuncher2 жыл бұрын
so it looks like when you're in set position, your draw-arm wrist is bent inward. I was always taught to keep it bent outward throughout the entire shot process. Is there a reason you have it set like that?
@tseringsmanla5706 Жыл бұрын
I want new bow set how much jake
@alexshackleford1065 Жыл бұрын
Forgive me, I'm a complete noob. But it seems to me the sensation is like if you were performing a front plank? i.e feeling the load through the pad of your palm, with very little tension in your forearm. The pressure in the pivot point simply a product of that load through your palm being directed up into the throat via the angle of the grip? P.S I think your videos are awesome. I have no idea how you only have 80k subs.
@PapaMcEuinАй бұрын
Why push the wrist forward after the shot? That risks additional inconsistent movement.
@jackriordam9333 Жыл бұрын
Hi Jake what grip is this, and what material, I love the colour but cannot seem to find anything similar on the rcore site
@rapsod19112 жыл бұрын
Is there any completion where you shot 90m any more?
@denniswells93402 жыл бұрын
Great watch and thanks for sharing. I do have a question regarding the slight pointing of the thumb. I’m wonder if the thumb point is contributing to the arrow impact being slightly left or if the arrow is a little stiff for that bow. Thanks
@JakeKaminskiArchery2 жыл бұрын
It can affect the impact for sure, but in this video the impacts left/right aren’t too important. It’s mostly the up/down that this is highlighting. I am hitting slightly left only because my sight is off a little bit.
@denniswells93402 жыл бұрын
@@JakeKaminskiArchery thanks mate. That all makes sense. I shoot off the shelf with a slight cant so automatically default to form and tune. Thanks too for your contribution to the archery community
@jblaze114 Жыл бұрын
with a compound this will get you an extra inch or so of draw length but the inconsistency is not worth the fps
@mysticnathan2 жыл бұрын
For reference, it would be helpful to know what size target face you're using here.
@JakeKaminskiArchery2 жыл бұрын
40cm
@mysticnathan2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! That's what I thought, and it helps for me with my groups at 30m also using a 40 cm face.
@fahlvfaust6772 жыл бұрын
@@JakeKaminskiArchery Hopefully, the next video will be about proper hooking when using split fingers to find accuracy, speed, or affect to arrow flight..
@Gibsonlife5732 жыл бұрын
So it's pretty much like Is high wrist low wrist
@VectorAero2 жыл бұрын
Off-topic, what size t-shirt are you wearing? I'm between sizes and can't decide which of your tri-blend shirts to order.
@dustydustydusty2 жыл бұрын
There's a balance between the upper and lower bones in the forearm in relation to wrist, elbow and shoulder set?
@claudioolate2516 Жыл бұрын
Does grip strenght and positioning affect how often the string will slap my forearm? i'm not sure why but 20% or so of the arrows i shoot the string hits my forearm😢
@dklintworth19922 жыл бұрын
Will this also carry over into compound bows?
@JakeKaminskiArchery2 жыл бұрын
Yes, not on the draw length point though
@nathanyam2 жыл бұрын
What is the angle of the bow grip in the video?
@JakeKaminskiArchery2 жыл бұрын
“As designed” I think it may be the barebow grip in my collection at RCore.
@nathanyam2 жыл бұрын
@@JakeKaminskiArchery I'm currently using the stock grip of my Fivics Vellator V3 riser which I measured is 45 degrees. Started noticing the steep angle is making me put more pressure on the pivot point, I'm been wondering why my arrows kept hitting left of centre (sometimes high left, other times low left). After watching your video, I think I know why, so thank you. Will definitely get a new grip from R-Core!
@azzlaziz2 жыл бұрын
On R-Core, for the barebow grip it's 33 degrees as designed. Stock medium is 38. And man, that's a beautiful purpleheart grip!
@jonathanm43232 жыл бұрын
Este error me lo acaba de corregir mi couch.
@dustydustydusty2 жыл бұрын
Been adjusting all that using mostly with my hand and wrist. Oops.
@Taborq2 жыл бұрын
there is no mounting bolt on VERTATUNE PLATE
@JakeKaminskiArchery2 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome
@Taborq2 жыл бұрын
tomorrow morning I will tire my hoyt epik next week Polish field championship competition somewhere in the provinces 250 km from Warsaw, I have no chance but I'm going ...
@jkgkjgkijk8 ай бұрын
This left hand seems very difficult to master
@Geist79202 жыл бұрын
You favor Stephen amell a little bit which is kind of perfect considering what you do
@akioutsunomiya4343 Жыл бұрын
HI there can you tell me what happy to the recurve limb that broke at the shoot? it was a bamboo limbs made by Hoyts limbs?
@litolate22962 жыл бұрын
You look like that green arrow guy, coincidence?
@JakeKaminskiArchery2 жыл бұрын
Na, he looks like me. Haha
@kesultananbumi28512 жыл бұрын
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@aw63372 жыл бұрын
he sounds knowledgeable, but with all that extra equipment on his bow, why doesn't he just get a stand to set the bow on? That would make a more accurate shot.
@JakeKaminskiArchery2 жыл бұрын
It’s called an Olympic Recurve. The style and class of bow allows many accessories to be mounted.
@vanislandsteve Жыл бұрын
👍🏻🇨🇦
@ScottErickson-uf9fm5 ай бұрын
I disagree 100%. Your grip only works for metal risers. If you heel a one piece bow it bends the limbe unevenly. I shoot all bows with a straight wrist with the only pressure in the throat of the handle. This creates a cradle and gives the bow hand less input into the shot. The more contact between hand and bow the more that minor torquing will show in the shot.
@bolemachan53752 жыл бұрын
You can help me for plaing archery ....i wonted 68"44 limb.one. coach 🙏🙏🙏