How DJI Fixed Sony's Worst Product The ECM-W3 vs DJI MIC 2

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The Sony ECM-w3 wireless system had the promise of being a great little system but it falls well short of the performance of systems like the DJI mic 2 or the Rode wireless pro. The other r2 system have a rich feature set and while the Sony wireless system has good audio it lacks the back up recording and strong signal link the DJI Mic 2 has. The biggest issue is that none of the other systems had a way to connect to sony cameras without using the mic input jack. Until now. DJI released the DJI mic 2 digital multi interface shoe adapter that allows the DJI mic 2 to connect digitally to sony cameras through the hot shoe eliminating the need for cables and giving you a clean signal for audio. This completely changed the only reason to get the sony ecm-w3 wireless mic system. So DJI basically fixed the worst product sony has released recently by coming up with a better product and at a cheaper price point.
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[@limagepicture9023]

Hi, thank you for your video. I am equipped with the Sony ECM-W3 and I have absolutely not once had the problem that you show on the screen. I just did a test at 150-160m (just after commenting on your video on the 17-50mm vs 20-70mm) and I have absolutely no problems with my ZV-E1. On the other hand, I returned my two copies of the DJI mic 2 because they gave me a different level of sound depending on the microphones for my improvised acoustic recordings. In addition, when you put a cage with the ZV-E1, you cannot put the DJI receiver on the ZV-E1 with the Sony multimedia dongle, whereas this is the case with the Sony ECM-W3. I find your title exaggerated and I would have preferred that you contacted Sony to check where the problem was coming from, which is what I did with DJI. And I had commented on it on other videos and forums. 🤔

[@JakeSloan]

I'm glad you've had a better experience than I have

[@benjaminhur3701]

I have the ECM-W3, which excels in audio quality due to its minimal electromagnetic noise. This isn't a major issue in louder environments but can be problematic in quiet settings. Additionally, Sony is traditionally one of the three major companies dealing with wireless microphones (along with Sennheiser and Shure). Therefore, in terms of microphone performance, Sony is ahead of DJI and Rode, despite their appearances. Nonetheless, I also recommend the DJI Mic 2, especially since it supports internal recording and feels like a premium purchase. Notably, DJI Mic 2 is one of the first instances where Sony has shared their standards externally, a trend I hope continues.

[@JakeSloan]

agreed

[@Josh_Sattin]

Great video Jake! I had some not so great experiences with older Sony wireless mics. I loved how they worked seamlessly with the hot shoe but weren't reliable overall. So cool that DJI offers that now. I wish they would make that for other camera systems too!

[@JakeSloan]

I hope DJI figures out how to make this for canon, Lumix, fuji etc. that would be absolutely amazing

[@TylerEdwards]

I'm so stoked on the DJI Mic 2 system with the adapter. It sounds so good too. The adapter was the reason why I bought the Mic 2 system haha. I love having the ability to record to them at the same time, but I sure wish there was timecode support. Great video as always!

[@JakeSloan]

Thanks Tyler! I hope they figure out ways to make mic adapters for other camera systems as well

[@cogmission1]

Thanks for commenting on Sony‘s product despite possible implications for future partnership. it goes along way and speaks of your dependability! (of course I’ve been watching you for years, but probably will be parting ways with mirrorless cameras and going to RED)

[@JakeSloan]

Absolutely!

[@Xboxers]

I have the ecm mic with one pair from a few years back. Didn't had that much issues, but I'm definitely interested now in the DJI Mic2 now it's possible to hot mic it. The lack of that really kept me back of buying DJI Mic or Rode for that matter.

[@JakeSloan]

agreed, I am so glad to see another option for the multi interface shoe on sony cameras now

[@steveschnetzler5471]

Wish the digital hot shoe would come to other camera brands, especially Panasonic. In perfect world, it would become a camera standard. Thanks.

[@JakeSloan]

me too!!

[@ZOB4]

This is cool - I already have a Rode Wireless Pro, but the adapter might be worth the change over to the DJI Mic 2.

[@JakeSloan]

Yeah it was enough to push me over to the DJI mic 2

[@michaelpoczynek]

Jake, thanks for making this video. I, too, was not excited after seeing the DJI MIC 2. But when the shoe mount came out, it was a game changer. This, of course, just after I bought a Sennheiser AVX lav. Have a great day! Enjoy the summer. 😀

[@JakeSloan]

Thanks!

[@JoshConnectMedia]

I’ve just ordered the Sony ECM M1!! Waiting for that heat to drop .si also have the Dji Mic 1 and for now it’s just good to go . No need for me to upgrade to Mic 2

[@JakeSloan]

The Sony m1 is absolutely fantastic! I use that most of the time

[@BLAXPHOTO]

Yikes!! Range is a big deal. Thanks for review!

[@JakeSloan]

100% agree

[@skymakai]

Hang on @3:00 you're saying the "backup recording" is happening while it's transmitting? So, DJI found a way to get past that pesky patent?

[@JakeSloan]

Yeah because this is a 2.4ghz wireless system that patent doesn’t apply. It applies to UHF systems

[@skymakai]

@@JakeSloan Is it because it's a 2.4GHz system? That would allow the Rode wireless mic as well as the Bluetooth of the Tentacle Sync to have wireless transmission... but they don't. Perhaps it's because the patent doesn't take into account a digital connection to the camera?

[@PrestonGladd]

If anyone buys the adapter make sure you do the update to the rx/tx, if you don't it's glitchy. After the update mine has worked perfect and has made the DJI Mic 2's my go to. (although I prefer the sound of the wireless pros from Rode, the ease of use on the DJI's can't be beat)

[@JakeSloan]

I agree!!

[@jampaPT]

I bought the DJI Mic 2 combo and I love it! Let's hope DJI keeps making these amazing products!

[@JakeSloan]

NICE

[@Bo_Hazem]

Switch the audio of the camera from 16bit 2Ch to 24bit 2Ch to have 24-bit baked into your video file.

[@JakeSloan]

👍🏻

[@POVwithRC]

I'm jazzed. Not because I intend to buy something like this but it means someone other than Sony COULD make a much smaller stereo X/Y MI Shoe mic. I like stereo but the current options do not allow me to balance my FX3 on the Crane M3S. Too tall. Go on Rode, reverse engineer that shoe 😍

[@JakeSloan]

Agreed!!!

[@Hobbies4Hire]

Great job on the video Jake! Thanks for making it. As soon as they get some pro transmitters that allow for screwing in the locking lavaliers, I will definitely pick these up over the Rode.

[@JakeSloan]

Thanks and I really hope DJI puts those on the DJI mic 3

[@harryvuemedia5106]

I use my FX3 on a gimbal a lot and I also use wireless duo mics with it. The problem with the FX3 is that plugging in duo mics directly into the camera creates a humming noise. Sony likely wont ever fix this issue on their fx3. And i can't attach the XLR top handle because it gets in the way of the gimbal rotation. For sure Im going to pick up this DJI Mic 2 with the Mi Adapter so that I can still have duo mics without the humming noise. Thank goodness DJI listened to their fans and taken their feedbacks seriously to create this adapter. As for Sony, they need to get their act together. Hopefully the W3 version 2 will have better range and a harder case because these mics are not cheap.

[@JakeSloan]

dang but good to know!

[@omarortizytc]

when i playback the video I cannot hear it from the receiver with a 3.5mm headset. i can monitor the audio no problem. but when playing back i have to connect to the camera's headphone jack. is this normal?

[@JakeSloan]

yes that is normal

[@YisName]

It really looks like Sony's issues across wide range of products, wf-1000xm5 earphones also has this issue. Even worse left can have this issue right don't, than vice versa 1-3m from base and source.

[@JakeSloan]

interesting

[@Christer_Nannestad]

Hi :) Great video! Cna the DJI Mic 2 receiver receives power via the MI shoe on compatible cameras from Sony? Or do you still have to charge the receiver in the DJI charging box? :) And did you try to have your Sony ECM W3 mic mounted on yur shoulder to have better signal when you have your back to the camera? I need to by DJI Mic 2 or Sony ECM. But for me the batterylife is important. And off course how the signal is with the back to the camera on distance up to about 10 meters from the camera :)

[@JakeSloan]

it does but only enough to keep the receiver powered it doesn't charge the unit up. in your use case I would definitely go for the DJI mic 2 setup

[@Christer_Nannestad]

@@JakeSloan thank you so much for fast reply ☺️

[@kencampbell5855]

I have the DJI Mic2 that came with the DJI Pocket 3 creator combo. Would this work with the DJI Mic 2 MI Shoe Camera Adapter?

[@JakeSloan]

I was in the same boat. You will still need to buy the mic 2 receiver and single mic combo plus this adapter.

[@alantsao6152]

Is it because you're using wireless video transmission at the same time so that the Sony's signal is so poor?

[@JakeSloan]

nope I used it MANY times without anything else and it still had issues

[@iSmartVihari]

Iam from India which one best 1. Sony ECM W3 2. DJi Mic 2

[@JakeSloan]

thats exactly what this video is about, watch it

[@SimplyScotlandPhotography]

@Jake Sloan what's your impressions of the new Xperia 1 VI phone camera Sir?

[@JakeSloan]

I haven't used it

[@SimplyScotlandPhotography]

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[@JakeSloan]

hahahaha...

[@DynamicLearning4u]

Has anyone experienced interference w the DJI M2 in a crowded environment? I know it has an internal mic of 32 but but I like to know if there’s interference 😊

[@JakeSloan]

I haven't with the mic 2 but I used the dji mic 1 on a high profile shoot for the NFL in Sofi Stadium and had zero issues

[@DynamicLearning4u]

@@JakeSloan thank you

[@jiajunsun3845]

Huh that's weird, a Chinese designed/made product is better than the Japanese??

[@JakeSloan]

yeah, you'd think that sony could create a product that rivals the Rode or DJI mics easily considering their vast R&D knowledge

[@BdiwsnnDjke]

would you like to review our drone?

[@JakeSloan]

what new drone is that?

[@jesusgjchuza6491]

🤝😎

[@JakeSloan]

thanks