How DJI Fixed Sony's Worst Product The ECM-W3 vs DJI MIC 2

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@Josh_Sattin 8 ай бұрын

Great video Jake! I had some not so great experiences with older Sony wireless mics. I loved how they worked seamlessly with the hot shoe but weren't reliable overall. So cool that DJI offers that now. I wish they would make that for other camera systems too!

@JakeSloan 8 ай бұрын

I hope DJI figures out how to make this for canon, Lumix, fuji etc. that would be absolutely amazing

@omarortizytc 6 ай бұрын

when i playback the video I cannot hear it from the receiver with a 3.5mm headset. i can monitor the audio no problem. but when playing back i have to connect to the camera's headphone jack. is this normal?

@JakeSloan 6 ай бұрын

yes that is normal

@nealzebub Ай бұрын

At 2:30, I noticed the transmitter gain was set to +6, using the internal mic. The receiver output level doesn't do anything with the adapter in use. Did the resulting level have to be increased even more in post?

@JakeSloan Ай бұрын

No I compress lightly in post but that’s where the level needed to be to get my audio to where I want it for post work.

@MartinLisius 8 күн бұрын

Awesome, Jake! Thank you for alerting us.

@JakeSloan 8 күн бұрын

Glad I could help!

@TylerEdwards 8 ай бұрын

I'm so stoked on the DJI Mic 2 system with the adapter. It sounds so good too. The adapter was the reason why I bought the Mic 2 system haha. I love having the ability to record to them at the same time, but I sure wish there was timecode support. Great video as always!

@JakeSloan 8 ай бұрын

Thanks Tyler! I hope they figure out ways to make mic adapters for other camera systems as well

@cogmission1 8 ай бұрын

Thanks for commenting on Sony‘s product despite possible implications for future partnership. it goes along way and speaks of your dependability! (of course I’ve been watching you for years, but probably will be parting ways with mirrorless cameras and going to RED)

@JakeSloan 7 ай бұрын

Absolutely!

@Xboxers 7 ай бұрын

I have the ecm mic with one pair from a few years back. Didn't had that much issues, but I'm definitely interested now in the DJI Mic2 now it's possible to hot mic it. The lack of that really kept me back of buying DJI Mic or Rode for that matter.

@JakeSloan 7 ай бұрын

agreed, I am so glad to see another option for the multi interface shoe on sony cameras now

@skymakai 8 ай бұрын

Hang on @3:00 you're saying the "backup recording" is happening while it's transmitting? So, DJI found a way to get past that pesky patent?

@JakeSloan 8 ай бұрын

Yeah because this is a 2.4ghz wireless system that patent doesn’t apply. It applies to UHF systems

@skymakai 8 ай бұрын

@@JakeSloan Is it because it's a 2.4GHz system? That would allow the Rode wireless mic as well as the Bluetooth of the Tentacle Sync to have wireless transmission... but they don't. Perhaps it's because the patent doesn't take into account a digital connection to the camera?

@reuvenbelenkiy6865 26 күн бұрын

Hi it was very helpful thank you I have a question Can I use hot shue for sony mic and 3.5mm for receiver simultaneously? I saw that after update my sony s3 i have in sound menu 4 chanels… Thanks

@JakeSloan 25 күн бұрын

You should be able to but I haven’t tried. It is very camera model dependent.

@limagepicture9023 7 ай бұрын

Hi, thank you for your video. I am equipped with the Sony ECM-W3 and I have absolutely not once had the problem that you show on the screen. I just did a test at 150-160m (just after commenting on your video on the 17-50mm vs 20-70mm) and I have absolutely no problems with my ZV-E1. On the other hand, I returned my two copies of the DJI mic 2 because they gave me a different level of sound depending on the microphones for my improvised acoustic recordings. In addition, when you put a cage with the ZV-E1, you cannot put the DJI receiver on the ZV-E1 with the Sony multimedia dongle, whereas this is the case with the Sony ECM-W3. I find your title exaggerated and I would have preferred that you contacted Sony to check where the problem was coming from, which is what I did with DJI. And I had commented on it on other videos and forums. 🤔

@JakeSloan 7 ай бұрын

I'm glad you've had a better experience than I have

@WalkingwithDidi Ай бұрын

The difference in levels is intentional. A safety feature so you get 2 sets of sound at different levels. Just in case the higher level one is clipping

@michaelpoczynek 7 ай бұрын

Jake, thanks for making this video. I, too, was not excited after seeing the DJI MIC 2. But when the shoe mount came out, it was a game changer. This, of course, just after I bought a Sennheiser AVX lav. Have a great day! Enjoy the summer. 😀

@JakeSloan 7 ай бұрын

Thanks!

3 ай бұрын

Good to know, I’m looking for a wireless mic solution for my Sony a74 and I’m happy to see this review from a person that actually used Sony microphone in real word scenario.

@JakeSloan 3 ай бұрын

You’re welcome

@PrestonGladd 8 ай бұрын

If anyone buys the adapter make sure you do the update to the rx/tx, if you don't it's glitchy. After the update mine has worked perfect and has made the DJI Mic 2's my go to. (although I prefer the sound of the wireless pros from Rode, the ease of use on the DJI's can't be beat)

@JakeSloan 8 ай бұрын

I agree!!

@MartinLisius 8 күн бұрын

Hi Jake. How does this DJI system compare to the Sony UWP system which also uses the MI hot shoe? Just curious if have determined that or what the best MI mic system is.

@JakeSloan 8 күн бұрын

the DJI Mic 2 system with the sony mi shoe adapter is by far the best small wireless system for sony cameras at the moment

@steveschnetzler5471 8 ай бұрын

Wish the digital hot shoe would come to other camera brands, especially Panasonic. In perfect world, it would become a camera standard. Thanks.

@JakeSloan 8 ай бұрын

me too!!

@Bo_Hazem 8 ай бұрын

Switch the audio of the camera from 16bit 2Ch to 24bit 2Ch to have 24-bit baked into your video file.

@JakeSloan 8 ай бұрын

👍🏻

@ZOB4 8 ай бұрын

This is cool - I already have a Rode Wireless Pro, but the adapter might be worth the change over to the DJI Mic 2.

@JakeSloan 8 ай бұрын

Yeah it was enough to push me over to the DJI mic 2

@kencampbell5855 8 ай бұрын

I have the DJI Mic2 that came with the DJI Pocket 3 creator combo. Would this work with the DJI Mic 2 MI Shoe Camera Adapter?

@JakeSloan 8 ай бұрын

I was in the same boat. You will still need to buy the mic 2 receiver and single mic combo plus this adapter.

@Hobbies4Hire 8 ай бұрын

Great job on the video Jake! Thanks for making it. As soon as they get some pro transmitters that allow for screwing in the locking lavaliers, I will definitely pick these up over the Rode.

@JakeSloan 7 ай бұрын

Thanks and I really hope DJI puts those on the DJI mic 3

@TheCreativeSpark-4AD Ай бұрын

I like the honesty. Great video.

@JakeSloan Ай бұрын

I appreciate that!

@jampaPT 7 ай бұрын

I bought the DJI Mic 2 combo and I love it! Let's hope DJI keeps making these amazing products!

@JakeSloan 7 ай бұрын

NICE

@JoshConnectMedia 8 ай бұрын

I’ve just ordered the Sony ECM M1!! Waiting for that heat to drop .si also have the Dji Mic 1 and for now it’s just good to go . No need for me to upgrade to Mic 2

@JakeSloan 8 ай бұрын

The Sony m1 is absolutely fantastic! I use that most of the time

@alantsao6152 7 ай бұрын

Is it because you're using wireless video transmission at the same time so that the Sony's signal is so poor?

@JakeSloan 7 ай бұрын

nope I used it MANY times without anything else and it still had issues

@ganadaramabasajachakatapaha 7 ай бұрын

I have the ECM-W3, which excels in audio quality due to its minimal electromagnetic noise. This isn't a major issue in louder environments but can be problematic in quiet settings. Additionally, Sony is traditionally one of the three major companies dealing with wireless microphones (along with Sennheiser and Shure). Therefore, in terms of microphone performance, Sony is ahead of DJI and Rode, despite their appearances. Nonetheless, I also recommend the DJI Mic 2, especially since it supports internal recording and feels like a premium purchase. Notably, DJI Mic 2 is one of the first instances where Sony has shared their standards externally, a trend I hope continues.

@JakeSloan 6 ай бұрын

agreed

@DynamicLearning4u 8 ай бұрын

Has anyone experienced interference w the DJI M2 in a crowded environment? I know it has an internal mic of 32 but but I like to know if there’s interference 😊

@JakeSloan 8 ай бұрын

I haven't with the mic 2 but I used the dji mic 1 on a high profile shoot for the NFL in Sofi Stadium and had zero issues

@DynamicLearning4u 8 ай бұрын

@@JakeSloan thank you

@Christer_Nannestad 6 ай бұрын

Hi :) Great video! Cna the DJI Mic 2 receiver receives power via the MI shoe on compatible cameras from Sony? Or do you still have to charge the receiver in the DJI charging box? :) And did you try to have your Sony ECM W3 mic mounted on yur shoulder to have better signal when you have your back to the camera? I need to by DJI Mic 2 or Sony ECM. But for me the batterylife is important. And off course how the signal is with the back to the camera on distance up to about 10 meters from the camera :)

@JakeSloan 5 ай бұрын

it does but only enough to keep the receiver powered it doesn't charge the unit up. in your use case I would definitely go for the DJI mic 2 setup

@Christer_Nannestad 5 ай бұрын

@@JakeSloan thank you so much for fast reply ☺️

@SimplyScotlandPhotography 8 ай бұрын

@Jake Sloan what's your impressions of the new Xperia 1 VI phone camera Sir?

@JakeSloan 7 ай бұрын

I haven't used it

@harryvuemedia 6 ай бұрын

I use my FX3 on a gimbal a lot and I also use wireless duo mics with it. The problem with the FX3 is that plugging in duo mics directly into the camera creates a humming noise. Sony likely wont ever fix this issue on their fx3. And i can't attach the XLR top handle because it gets in the way of the gimbal rotation. For sure Im going to pick up this DJI Mic 2 with the Mi Adapter so that I can still have duo mics without the humming noise. Thank goodness DJI listened to their fans and taken their feedbacks seriously to create this adapter. As for Sony, they need to get their act together. Hopefully the W3 version 2 will have better range and a harder case because these mics are not cheap.

@JakeSloan 6 ай бұрын

dang but good to know!

@BLAXPHOTO 8 ай бұрын

Yikes!! Range is a big deal. Thanks for review!

@JakeSloan 8 ай бұрын

100% agree

@POVwithRC 8 ай бұрын

I'm jazzed. Not because I intend to buy something like this but it means someone other than Sony COULD make a much smaller stereo X/Y MI Shoe mic. I like stereo but the current options do not allow me to balance my FX3 on the Crane M3S. Too tall. Go on Rode, reverse engineer that shoe 😍

@JakeSloan 8 ай бұрын

Agreed!!!

@CC39 Ай бұрын

Thanks. You have saved me from buying something not worth, even Sony gave me a $100 coupon.

@JakeSloan Ай бұрын

You're welcome!

@YisName 5 ай бұрын

It really looks like Sony's issues across wide range of products, wf-1000xm5 earphones also has this issue. Even worse left can have this issue right don't, than vice versa 1-3m from base and source.

@JakeSloan 5 ай бұрын

interesting