Q&A SUMMARY Enlisted SEAL vs Army Infantry Officer Ranger Green Beret PJ MARSOC SAS

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[@hillsman9199]

Nothing wrong with going in as an Infantry Officer, and then going Green Berets. It's a prestigious position, you're going to be a part of the SOF scapel, and have a very high op tempo. Maybe your missions arent as specific or high speed as units like DEVGRU or CAG, but if you have that unconventional warfare billet youre going to get a bunch of interesting deployments. Plus as an officer on an ODA, you’ll get to be in the stack with your soldiers and get just enough action that when it's time to ride the desk, your body likely won't be able to handle kicking down doors much longer. Plus you are a liason to the local fighting force, and will get to display your intelligence and competence by being the ambassador for the ODA. A lot of Enlisted SOF guys don't have the luxury of doing their 20yrs like an Officer. Jumping out of planes and humping 100lb packs into your late 30s is unrealistic for most people.

[@MAHONEYDRO]

Jake is a Man who Loves his Job!!!! Good shit homie

[@juannieto1987]

I love this there more than one way to reach your destination. In other videos you mention title vs job. The job matters more than the title. ❤️🔥👍 honesty is gold, we are very lucky to have people like yourself.

[@jakezweig]

Fire man

[@akasupaman]

As always, thanks for keeping it real

[@jakezweig]

Only way I know

[@AUDACITY4Uphotographer]

Man let me tell you what.. Jake is the truth and gives the honest truth.

[@internet_internet]

Darrel, The timeline that Jake gave you regarding the path to just arriving at BUD/S is the correct timeline if you were to try to go in as an Officer with top-tier PST scores, & happened to get picked up for OCS & SOAS, and made it through as a top performer. This is a VERY competitive route to get a slot for, with very few slots actually available per-year. (Think about the college/professional-level athletes who also want to become SEAL Officers) Most SEAL Officers are bred from younger ages by either going to the Naval Academy, spending 2-3 years serving in the Navy as an Officer with a different job & then making a “Lateral-Transfer” to go to BUD/S, or as already enlisted SEALs who get picked up for a Commission to go to OCS after years of exemplary service in the Teams as an enlisted SEAL. If you are 100% determined to become a SEAL, then it is still possible, but it is 100% up you to make it happen. If you were completely determined to pursue the SEAL route, but weren’t too keen on the Officer route or timeline, then I would recommend going in with an enlisted SEAL contract (SO), because taking that route to get to BUD/S is much shorter, and you could always try to become an Officer later on if you proved to be an exemplary enlisted SEAL. I think the last statistic I’ve heard about this is that 70% or more actively-serving enlisted SEALs have college degrees. Or, Jake isn’t lying about the Army Infantry Officer route. That could be another good option for you, if you don’t have 100% confidence in making it through the SEAL pipeline. Your job would be learning how to lead groups of young infantry soldiers, in multiple different aspects. And you could eventually try to go into Army SF from there. (I know very little about the Army SF pipelines myself) Either way Darrel, or any other young candidate who may be reading this, the decision is entirely up to you. It’s all about knowing exactly what you want, and how bad you actually want it. Blessings, -From a guy who wanted to become a SEAL at 18-19, and got discharged on Processing Day-4 of Navy bootcamp due to a ridiculous series of paperwork mistakes which ultimately resulted from myself not knowing how to properly navigate the SEAL enlistment process correctly, and falling for/getting confused by a series of lies. Don’t be me.

[@MoonLight-qw8sz]

Wait what mistakes did you make? I definitely don’t want to get kicked out over some paperwork

[@jakezweig]

That my friends is a super comment other than the enlisting part with a college degree 😇 thank you for taking that time to drop fire in the comments. Man shoot me an email [e-mail] and let's talk about what happened to you

[@internet_internet]

@@MoonLight-qw8sz I replied to your other comment.

[@justingause5501]

He'd probly be perfect for 82nd or 101st Airborne. Both are badass units. In law enforcement one of my Lt's was prior 101st Airborne and he was the best dude I ever worked with. He feared nothing! When I lost my leg (motorcycle accident 2017) he was like "Gause you my brother so glad you alive man". Never forget my bros in blue....

[@jakezweig]

Bunch of kick ass units

[@marksmusicplace3627]

thanks Jake. At least he is mindful of the realities of the choices need to be successful, And you are giving some stellar smart advice with a lot of common sense.

[@jakezweig]

Thank everyone thinks I'm crazy until they quit

[@marksmusicplace3627]

@@jakezweig every civilian has no idea, i had this issue trying to explain this when I was an Army Recruiter

[@marksmusicplace3627]

@@jakezweig your not crazy your just don't bs people. People need to hear to hard truth

[@JeronimoSilvas]

Great videos! Thank you sir!

[@jakezweig]

Glad you like them!

[@Jeremy-ul3it]

I don't know why everybody always sticks their nose up at Infantry. We are the original og's of dropping bodies. Been doing it for almost 250 years, one of the best brotherhoods you could be part of. SF is cool, but Infantry is designed to take over countries. And in combat you do a lot of work with, SF as a grunt. FOLLOW ME🖤

[@mrhanky5851]

It can be a logistical cluster F. Friend of mine was dropped from second phase, told he could return, after two years wasn’t allowed back. And this is a guy who trained for years and was a stud, dropped out last minute from the Academy to go enlisted. Such a freaking mess 🤦🏻‍♂️ dudes still get injured severely after first phase, another friend was kicked out for a reason I don’t even want to mention because it sounds unreal lol super unforgiving community that’ll throw you at the wall and if you don’t stick then the attitude is kick rocks.

[@jakezweig]

YUP FACTS GO ARMY

[@danielrn133]

I agree w/ you regarding NG. Also..once you are in...any injuries and issues they can stop you from active duty. When i went from E to O it was a pain in the ASS. And any concussions, knee injuries, etc...all are on your record right in front of them. I was able to make it, but going from E to O or from Reserve to active is NOT a guarantee and you don't just "switch over". I would always say go active FIRST because going from active to reserve is a hell of a lot easier than Reserve to active.

[@jakezweig]

YES SIR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@rj8183]

Here's the deal. If he goes active Ranger in a Ranger Batt he can go ALL the way to Tier 1 in RRC (Ranger Reconnaissance Company) and STILL get all the "training" needed and wanted stay focused and DO THE SAME thing. I could go on and on but #yoinginzntlistening.

[@jakezweig]

Please tell them

[@rj8183]

He right DO tht ACTIVE Duty FIRST. And 19th and 20th Group are Army National Guard SF. But its alot harder unless your job accommodates it. You can come back seasoned and go Guard SF get the same training and pick SOME missions

[@jakezweig]

10000000000000%

[@waltg5165]

I get a feeling sometimes people in these videos only want to hear what they want to hear. A lot of them think it is a foregone conclusion they can just sign up and it looks so damn easy, they won't have any problems. One thing with the run times, right now these people are in their world. They get up in the morning, maybe have that energy drink, some orange juice, they are feeling good, it is a nice day to run, so they go at it. (I don't know about nowadays, maybe that is how things work in the military now). When you first get to any training, plan on adding 20% to those times. You might get them back down, but you are not going to have 3-4 days to recuperate. The reality is you can't go all out everyday. Some people can, but sometimes your body can't give 100% all the time. Mental acuity. I will walk in there, they will see how smart I am. When you are in a classroom, that shit flies. Stress and pressure play on your brain, 4 people screaming at you, the decision making processes start to break down. You need to learn to do without thinking. You do learn those things, but it is not automatic. It is crazy, nobody says I want to be a heart surgeon, and thinks how hard can it be? I will just go to medical school and boom, I will be operating on human hearts. Try operating on that heart with 4 people screaming you are an idiot, you made the incision wrong, you just killed your patient, etc, etc, etc. That is my point, people have this perception that the military is easy. They want to be an airforce pilot, how hard can that be? I can get a pilot's license in a few months at a local airfield, yeah but what happens when you need years of training and schools, you have to take the SERE course, etc. Once you finish whatever training or schools you go to, if you want to advance, you can not stop. You need to maintain that intensity. Just don't be an asshole doing it.

[@jakezweig]

SPOT ON MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FIRE

[@DJFawnz]

22:00 - 23:00 - Golden advice

[@jakezweig]

I cut it an make it its own video

[@DJFawnz]

@@jakezweig yes sir i saw that! By the way, the conversation with the Army recruiters went great. They’re super helpful guys. I’ll let you know once I get the thumbs up from MEPS because everything else is moot until that happens.

[@jakezweig]

@@DJFawnz AWESOME!!!!!

[@darendydelphin1751]

I always wanted to be a seal. I read all the seal book. But now I'm going into the army as an infantryman. I'm leaving beginning of July. As soon as I get my citizenship imma go 75th ranger regiment. They do the same shit as seal. And if you wanna go water the army has diver school within. Thank you jake for keeping it real.

[@jakezweig]

HELL YES GET SOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MY PLEASURE

[@ik5852]

Bro they do not do the same shit as seals. We do work with the tier 1 element of Seals but we are trained in a whole different thing than seals man..basics: Rangers aren’t free fall qualified, we aren’t dive certified, Rangers ARE the top DA raid unit. I’ve never worked with a vanilla seal, I’ve seen some but only have done stuff on deployment with a tier 1 element of seals. So if you are referring to devgru seals then yes they can do the same mission

[@jakezweig]

@@ik5852 my point exactly the same shit

[@jakezweig]

@@ik5852 do you ride helos to work? Do you shot bad guy?

[@ik5852]

@@jakezweig yeah just a lot of people think normal seal teams are the same as devgru and compare SEALs to CAG a lot, not Devrgu to CAG or Rangers to a seal team

[@deathfire096]

If you can't swim, you will have a very hard time at Buds and the instructors will find your weakness and weed you out. To be a Seal you need to love the water and I mean everything, under, surface, cold water and be comfortable under duress. He is better off at the Army at 24 years is old is kinda late to start to be at the level you need to be when you get to Buds. He won't even pass pre-Buds if he can't swim 1 mile under a specific time.

[@jakezweig]

No swim = no BUDS or BUDs + chipping paint

[@michaelmiller5076]

Hey, Jake what do you think about swcc? I’m thinking that’s the direction I would like to go, and I’ve already started swimming and running.

[@jakezweig]

Thats your choice ....I don't want to drop the bad MFers off and come pick them up when they finish doing BAD MFers stuff

[@ik5852]

people wonder why so many people arent navy seals or rangers or whatever SO and wonder why they dont make it and they say that they wont quit but when ur in the actual situation of being disciplined and working out and getting your contract and being in the situation of signing a contract ur mind is going through so much and a lot of people psyche themselves out and get anxiety and dont want to go through the unknown of Basic and BUD/s or OSUT. people even get psyched out of even leaving to go to basic like flying from cali to georgia for army or somewhere to illinois or cali. During training you get put under a lot of stress for the most part, fun parts though like shooting and just being in the field but constantly training and making it so you dont get kicked or for bud/s getting dropped for something. Then there's the extra percentage of the people who arent physically fit and thats why theres low numbers in SO community. People think workout go to SO training and then ur an operator and get to kill people but the reality is the day-to-day shit that fucks with people and makes them quit or do one enlistment. Then theres the ones that thrive and do 10+-20+ year careers and retire. Its how ur body is made, ur either gonna fail, do an enlistment or more, or max ur career out and retire. Then another thing is family, a lot of people get depressed that I've known because of constant deployments and never seeing family, getting a relationship and it not working out because of your lifestyle. You'll never know which type of person you are unless you pursue what you want and then you'll see who you are

[@jakezweig]

GAS PEOPLE GAS thank you for this awesome comment

[@nomad8110]

Hey Jake you ever write letters of recommendation for these guys you bring on who want to be officers?

[@jakezweig]

NOPE Never

[@matthewperez3855]

Jake, would your thought be any differnt if he was swimming a a sub 9 for seals?

[@jakezweig]

Absolutely!!!! but he is not

[@beathovenmusic333]

I was wondering if you could give me some direction I'm 27 and looking to go in the military. I would like to go special operations in a medical MOS. But debating between 75th ranger, green berat or SWCC.

[@jakezweig]

Shoot me an email [e-mail]

[@matthewmarston5149]

45: twist rate: 1:6:40 1 foot bore 850 bö=1 6875m correct yes 1 no 0

[@redzen5149]

It’s not complicated. The Navy, The US government and the media have made it very very clear that the seals are the best of the best. “Toughest military training in the world “

[@knowledgeeverything6890]

What about the PJs?

[@internet_internet]

@@knowledgeeverything6890 PJ’s are guardian angels.

[@jakezweig]

You seen that SAS training?

[@rj8183]

SAS and American counterparts.

[@ik5852]

That’s the recruitment for the Navy pal..that’s how they get people

[@johnmcelwain5884]

How Jake rolls, hooking Darrell up wit a dude. Dude has it going on and willong to help...even with proposal and possiblecnew role. JAKE....let me make some calls bro you playing a wjole different game... Darrell...wish you the best man. SEALS are all about the water.

[@jakezweig]

Im not playing a game man!!!! This my friend is how WE BUILD CHAMPIONS FOR LIFE !!!! She said yes and they had a great convo

[@Midnitedreary88]

So, all the navy seals who claimed they went to buds and they didn’t know how to swim or they weren’t strong swimmers or they weren’t athletic….. How did they pass buds?

[@jakezweig]

Swimming with fins on requires effort. U have to be comfortable in the water and not breathing

[@Midnitedreary88]

@@jakezweig Yeah, I’m not doubting anything you’re saying. I believe you’re pretty much the only one telling it like it is. According to most “public” SEALs during hell week ur gonna run like back to back marathons. Welp, that’s not possible to accomplish unless ur in excellent shape. You can’t just Will through that. So, either standards at BUDs is exaggerated or people aren’t being honest with their audience … You know what I mean?

[@ADWYETYATRIPATHYBEI]

Hey.. really loved and enjoyed this content! I actually had a question.. Do officers in the military get personal staff? Or are they themselves responsible for shining their shoes and ironing their clothes?

[@jakezweig]

You really don't get staff until the senior ranks +10 but you alway have people working for you.....if you got someone shinning your shoes .....well your shit

[@waltg5165]

My experience, in the infantry no officer would ask anyone to shine their shoes or clean their weapon, they would never live it down. When I went to an engineering unit, I did have an officer ask me to clean his weapon, I said no chance.

[@josephlee6103]

"There can be only one of us, my dude."

[@josephlee6103]

I'm already doing the black SEAL thing. Go be a Ranger.

[@jakezweig]

@@josephlee6103 LOL dude I have 7 black officers in the teams right ✅ nice try man

[@josephlee6103]

@@jakezweig why were you discouraging him, then? Let him learn to swim. If he can't make it at BUDS he can be SWCC or Corpman or something. You were straight hating and projecting the whole time. None of the real dudes [Jocko, Sean Ryan, Goggins, tmacs, ronin, jonnykim, mikeritner, Glover, etc, have ever mentioned your name].

[@josephlee6103]

Real recognize real, my dude.

[@josephlee6103]

@jockowillink

[@MsRotorwings]

Why are your guests in silhouette like their in witness protection? 😂 Daryl’s in silhouette yet you mentioned his last name.

[@jakezweig]

They are hunting my guys at BUDS

[@patrickkiarie4961]

Enlisted seal vs enlisted ranger which is better and why?

[@jakezweig]

WHAT???????????? they are both kick ass jobs period!!!

[@patrickkiarie4961]

@@jakezweig in regards to how long it takes to get there as an enlisted guy you have talked about there being a back up to become a seal officer and how rangers have a shortage of officers does the same thing ring true for enlisted which path will get you to the fight faster enlisted seal or enlisted ranger??

[@deathfire096]

Depends. You like ships and water and the coasts then the Seals. Different missions.

[@MsRotorwings]

Dude wanted to be a SEAL since he was a kid YET he didn’t develop the skills necessary to succeed? He acts like the idea occurred to him in a dream last night. Colleges have pools that allow public access.

[@jakezweig]

Yes sir

[@thedeepspacevoid]

last 24 years has been really fucked up. what the hell are FROGMEN doing in the middle of the desert? 600 miles to the nearest body of water........anyway coach em up, Jake

[@djtanikgotbeatz]

Why does it take so long to make it to seals ?

[@jakezweig]

Thousands of people want to be navy seals

[@ik5852]

@@jakezweig yeah too many

[@akasupaman]

Regular guys are not making it through, it's cut throat as ever.

[@internet_internet]

Congratulations on your success. 347? You got any dudes still in your class who had tried before, but failed for whatever reason? Would you happen to know of any guys that have made it through who got discharged from Navy RTC as an 18-19 year old? Or perhaps any who were previously discharged at another point in time for other random reasons?

[@akasupaman]

@@internet_internet Im just a dude training to get there as well, but i have associates and friends in the pipeline. All I can say is your desire to be there will be tested. If an individual can't make it through RTC I don't believe they should try and be a team guy.

[@internet_internet]

@@akasupaman Oh, you’re not in yet? I had read on a previous comment of yours on one of Jake’s other videos that you were graduating this fall. I took that as “graduating BUD/S” this fall. Be careful when you go in, man. Games may be played, and lies may be told. It’s up to you to decipher that information correctly & make wise decisions. That’s what the mental-aspect of SO/SF is all about. Decision-making abilities, even when the decisions are very tough. I had no mentors back in 2013, and I trusted that the information my recruiters gave me was accurate. It was not. I made decisions based on the information that I was given, and I ultimately got screwed for it. Don’t get screwed. Always double check everything for yourself.

[@MoonLight-qw8sz]

@@internet_internet what lies did your recruiter tell you. I don’t want to get fucked over with some dumb contract

[@jakezweig]

@@internet_internet you dropping 🔥 on this information