Jalen Rose lost all respect for the Astros after the sign-stealing scandal | Get Up

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4 жыл бұрын

Mike Greenberg, Jalen Rose, Marcus Spears and Jay Williams discuss the Houston Astros' 2017 sign-stealing scandal and debate whether the MLB should strip them of their championship title.
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@TrestanSKYWALKR
@TrestanSKYWALKR 4 жыл бұрын
It’s funny how the offenders are usually the first ones telling their victims you have to learn to move on.
@3waytrayy444
@3waytrayy444 4 жыл бұрын
Man, that's cause they moved on before they even started 😂
@abraxasvoice440
@abraxasvoice440 4 жыл бұрын
.yeah...move...Move right about here so i can kick you in the face cheater.
@YK-fj5bj
@YK-fj5bj 4 жыл бұрын
AnotherSKYWALKR We have to move on dude. 🙏
@likegod2unga99
@likegod2unga99 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's exactly what I was thinking they didn't earn it
@rodscott7360
@rodscott7360 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah ... sounds like the American way🤷🏾‍♂️
@wwebb1
@wwebb1 4 жыл бұрын
Josh Reddick: Everyone shut up while I hit .230
@youtubecommenter37
@youtubecommenter37 4 жыл бұрын
Wyatt Webb his quote is definitely going to make pitchers not try to hit him lol
@insaini87
@insaini87 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@AnariGold23
@AnariGold23 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@keisukeyoshida2839
@keisukeyoshida2839 4 жыл бұрын
Hilarious
@stevent9813
@stevent9813 4 жыл бұрын
This idiot should be ashamed for not apologize for cheating, because he got his Bangs just like Altuve did and their teammates
@demh7823
@demh7823 4 жыл бұрын
The Astros don't have the right or authority to decide when we "move on".
@okcguy6955
@okcguy6955 4 жыл бұрын
Dem H78 true that Astros trying to fire back do me a favor bann the players all of them
@JustMeELC
@JustMeELC 4 жыл бұрын
Vacate the title asap!
@MRoss623
@MRoss623 4 жыл бұрын
Your acting like your girl broke up with you or something over this y’all weirdos 😂😂🗣🗣
@romelovesdan
@romelovesdan 4 жыл бұрын
Nor does the public who demands apologies, then are not satisfied with the apologies given.
@bweise3
@bweise3 4 жыл бұрын
PREACH
@54hman
@54hman 4 жыл бұрын
If you cheat in college you usually get expelled
@seanrobinson8676
@seanrobinson8676 4 жыл бұрын
This not college nothing but fake rage
@vinnyl264
@vinnyl264 4 жыл бұрын
And if you pay players you get your rings and banners taken away...
@youtubenchill2423
@youtubenchill2423 4 жыл бұрын
54hman and if you cheat on your wife she gets half your stuff
@da8wonder
@da8wonder 4 жыл бұрын
I remember how Reddick was crying about the hostile crowd at the Yankees stadium during playoffs but on the low his whole team was cheating to win games. Smh
@Andrew_mm
@Andrew_mm 4 жыл бұрын
da8wonder probably was trying to hear illegal signs
@chasehansen5397
@chasehansen5397 4 жыл бұрын
I mean, regardless of cheating, you don’t EVER chant about a natural disaster that cost thousands upon thousands of people their lives, and you also don’t mock someone’s anxiety either, just the golden rule jackass
@hackattack7811
@hackattack7811 4 жыл бұрын
If he thought the crowd was hostile then, wait til this season. He might start crying.
@onlyoncamera0
@onlyoncamera0 4 жыл бұрын
Chase Hansen you also don’t cheat but that rule got broken 🥴
@CraigMcGuinn
@CraigMcGuinn 3 жыл бұрын
@@onlyoncamera0 the victims of hurricane Harvey still shouldn’t have been dragged into insulting Astros players regardless...those victims had nothing to do with the cheating
@drdellaman
@drdellaman 4 жыл бұрын
The Astro players need to shut their mouths unless they are saying "I'm giving my ring back, I didn't deserve it, I apologize to everyone for our actions."
@ObiWanKenobi
@ObiWanKenobi 4 жыл бұрын
Jeremy Askins sign stealing is fair if you do it legitimately through playing the game. Not through watching a live feed from the outfield
@scottyc1093
@scottyc1093 4 жыл бұрын
@@ObiWanKenobi But sign stealing isn't the only form of cheating. There was a few teams in the past that did cheat and won. And nobody called for there trophy to be taken back. If you call for one, then you call for all.
@ObiWanKenobi
@ObiWanKenobi 4 жыл бұрын
scotty C there’s only evidence of the Astros doing it. Until Boston gets their own investigation and result, then they are in the clear
@jtrillz3953
@jtrillz3953 4 жыл бұрын
I was just rewatching all that stuff and I don’t understand how those Astros players were happy in 2017 after they won..... Like they were cheering like they won a chip legitimately 🤣🤣🤣
@cdai216
@cdai216 4 жыл бұрын
JTrillZ BooFed kinda like the pats lmao. Knowing signs or plays doesn’t equal wins. Your team still has to be extremely talented.
@cdai216
@cdai216 4 жыл бұрын
Julio go cry about it
@cubsfantrey3
@cubsfantrey3 4 жыл бұрын
They're scumbags with 0 integrity and so are the fans that defend them.
@cubsfantrey3
@cubsfantrey3 4 жыл бұрын
@@cdai216 spoken like someone who has never played the game. Lmfao! Knowing the pitch that is coming is absolutely a game changing advantage in baseball. They should be banned for life from the game.
@deweyoxburger2963
@deweyoxburger2963 4 жыл бұрын
@@cubsfantrey3 the fans that defend them are Legal MORONS. The Astros fans are the ones who should be pissed off the most of all baseball fans.
@gilq1658
@gilq1658 4 жыл бұрын
I remember being so mentally exhausted after every World Series game as a Dodgers fan in 2017. I’m not moving on, Dodgers were the better team.
@demontraywilliamson2582
@demontraywilliamson2582 4 жыл бұрын
no they weren't
@Jboy19916
@Jboy19916 4 жыл бұрын
@@demontraywilliamson2582 yes they were lol can't even deny that unless your trolling
@demontraywilliamson2582
@demontraywilliamson2582 4 жыл бұрын
@@Jboy19916 Who had Home-Field for the 2017 world series
@kevlar1999
@kevlar1999 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah Astros would of not even made it out of the American League and then the Yankees would of spanked the Dodgers. Sucks.
@Jboy19916
@Jboy19916 4 жыл бұрын
@@demontraywilliamson2582 one team cheated & the other didn't so just stop right now
@gibranleon8221
@gibranleon8221 4 жыл бұрын
MLB commissioner needs to resign IMMEDIATELY. he will not realize his mistake until Altuve catches a 100mph fastball to the face.
@rctsan808
@rctsan808 4 жыл бұрын
Gibran Leon i wanna see that
@jonathanwoods7643
@jonathanwoods7643 4 жыл бұрын
@@rctsan808 lol chill. They deserved to be punished but not by suffering permanent brain damage
@rctsan808
@rctsan808 4 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanwoods7643 I don't support him taking one to the face but if he takes one to the helmet I'm okay
@ultimatepaine6401
@ultimatepaine6401 4 жыл бұрын
Ryan Tsang that can still injure or kill him, helmets are not indestructible.
@ultimatepaine6401
@ultimatepaine6401 4 жыл бұрын
Ryan Tsang the pitches batters usually get hit with are going 70 or 80 mph tops.
@jtrillz3953
@jtrillz3953 4 жыл бұрын
Melt the rings, turn in the trophy, fine the players.
@OttoBoy
@OttoBoy 4 жыл бұрын
Instead of melting the rings, MLB should string them all together and hang them in a display case in Cooperstown.
@cubsfantrey3
@cubsfantrey3 4 жыл бұрын
I'd like all the players banned for life
@JustMeELC
@JustMeELC 4 жыл бұрын
Can't do anything to the players now but can & must vacate the title & take the pennant + trophy asap!
@neala3282
@neala3282 4 жыл бұрын
@@JustMeELC not going to happen
@JustMeELC
@JustMeELC 4 жыл бұрын
@@neala3282 I don't know... even Trout is calling for it & this is going to get really ugly if it isn't done I'm afraid. Going to be really bad for baseball if the whole season turns into a shitshow & the game looks like a sad joke.
@Walter370z
@Walter370z 4 жыл бұрын
I hope every game theres huge fights and opposing pitchers at every game against them throw at them since these cheating Houston Astricks are cocky AF after all this mess.
@Threezus17
@Threezus17 4 жыл бұрын
Wait until they go to NY... Not gonna be good 😂
@Walter370z
@Walter370z 4 жыл бұрын
@@Threezus17 🤣💯💯💯I can't wait I hope everyone goes off in them in any way possible.
@asiaroberson3442
@asiaroberson3442 4 жыл бұрын
@@Threezus17 they coming to citifield too
@Threezus17
@Threezus17 4 жыл бұрын
@@asiaroberson3442 I know that's why I said NY
@sanjayjoseph6556
@sanjayjoseph6556 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao ok and get y’all players suspended, fine by me
@gmesser83
@gmesser83 4 жыл бұрын
Can we all agree to simply refer to them as the Houston Astrics
@jlobiafra
@jlobiafra 4 жыл бұрын
gmesser83 no because you need to learn how to spell it correctly first
@BabaYagaRacing
@BabaYagaRacing 4 жыл бұрын
I love it
@mcalderon415
@mcalderon415 4 жыл бұрын
Houston patriots
@gmesser83
@gmesser83 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry Houston asterisk
@sollamander2206
@sollamander2206 4 жыл бұрын
"That was like thee years ago a**hole" "People don't forget"
@okcguy6955
@okcguy6955 4 жыл бұрын
Justin Solly look the consequences now 3 years later fans families are loosing their jobs reputation I just don’t wna be Astros fan right now
@jawill24
@jawill24 4 жыл бұрын
Yea you win a chip then decide to stop cheating yea ok
@brucechamberlin2545
@brucechamberlin2545 4 жыл бұрын
"Superbad"
@MrRay2364
@MrRay2364 4 жыл бұрын
Superbad!
@douglima6707
@douglima6707 4 жыл бұрын
McLovin!
@TheNCipher
@TheNCipher 4 жыл бұрын
Marcus Spears analogy is spot on. When a thief gets caught, we recover the merchandise and prosecute.
@scottyc1093
@scottyc1093 4 жыл бұрын
But the standard was set along time ago. If it wasn't done back in the day, it's not going to be done now.
@saleenferrari
@saleenferrari 4 жыл бұрын
@@scottyc1093 a new standard can be implemented at any time.
@CraigMcGuinn
@CraigMcGuinn 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly…Jalen had a look of “why didn’t I think of that?” When he smiled in response
@denmarkvessey240
@denmarkvessey240 4 жыл бұрын
Yu Darvish got released by the Dodgers behind this!
@LegitAjit
@LegitAjit 4 жыл бұрын
I felt sorry for him too being a Rangers Fan.
@paulshead4542
@paulshead4542 4 жыл бұрын
I think you'll find game 7 was played in LA!!!!!
@denmarkvessey240
@denmarkvessey240 4 жыл бұрын
@@paulshead4542 what about the other games.....Dont come out here riding the Astros crotches. They gettin beaned everywhere they touch down
@paulshead4542
@paulshead4542 4 жыл бұрын
@@denmarkvessey240 grateful if you could repeat that in English please... (no offence)..
@Rylopero
@Rylopero 4 жыл бұрын
Paul Shead i was able to understand it. And a fair assumption would be that they are from Denmark. Find something else to fall back on instead of grammar. By the way, can you repeat that again in Spanish so i can understand? (No offense)
@TrainGuru
@TrainGuru 4 жыл бұрын
My version of a proper punishment: - Manfred resigns - Take away title (meaning that no one won the 2017 WS) - Melt the rings - Altuve, Correa, Bregman, etc gives up MVP's and other awards (meaning on one wins AL MVP or other awards in 2017) - Alex Cora, Carlos Beltran, and AJ Hinch blackballed - Delay the replay in the dugout by 20 seconds - Routine inspections by officials to make sure that no one is cheating - And finally, the Astros loss their signing bonus they got.
@CraigMcGuinn
@CraigMcGuinn 2 жыл бұрын
One of the rings should have been put in the MLB museum to acknowledge the scandal occurred for historical purposes
@TheOldSchoolGamer93
@TheOldSchoolGamer93 4 жыл бұрын
Waiting to hear Ja Rules take so I can make sense of all this!
@agr9432
@agr9432 4 жыл бұрын
Old School Gamer 💀
@fabriziolorenzo2392
@fabriziolorenzo2392 4 жыл бұрын
WHERE IS JA
@Betoven81
@Betoven81 4 жыл бұрын
Lol 😆 classic
@nr9794
@nr9794 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t want to dance! We need answers Ja Rule might not have right now!
@Heart_ken01
@Heart_ken01 4 жыл бұрын
Old School Gamer LMFAOOO
@simondaughtry4619
@simondaughtry4619 4 жыл бұрын
In game 5 of the '17 World Series Clayton Kershaw threw 51 offspeed pitches( curve's and sliders) ....Houston swung and missed "0" of them.
@fredjeannieschultz1251
@fredjeannieschultz1251 4 жыл бұрын
I heard that yesterday and it really put things in perspective. All of those who say that there's no way to know if they actually benefited from the sign stealing are either lying or in complete denial. Take the trophy and the rings, and post it as: "VACATED-THE ASTROS WON BY CHEATING".
@genebull3837
@genebull3837 4 жыл бұрын
That is a big fat lie. No hitter is that good even if he knows what is coming unless Kershaw has a real lousy curve and slider which I know he doesn't.
@simondaughtry4619
@simondaughtry4619 4 жыл бұрын
@@genebull3837 Uh ....Gene.....it proves they knew when the deuce was coming and therefore they DID NOT SWING choosing to wait for the far straighter fastball.... the entire beef is that they knew the pitches coming ... 51 pitches he threw were all documented by MLB ...its factual.
@scaligula
@scaligula 4 жыл бұрын
Nothing like the impact that they will face from the fans........I guarantee they will give an expletive.
@DuckFanDane
@DuckFanDane 4 жыл бұрын
scaligula Well I have talk to tons of Astros fans and they basically have the attitude that we still won the trip so were champions basically excusing all the cheating
@mckoolaid1567
@mckoolaid1567 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a Astros fan I'm so confused about why they cheated and so angry at them
@cubsfantrey3
@cubsfantrey3 4 жыл бұрын
@@mckoolaid1567 you're in the minority online. Its great to hear from real Astros fans. I knew they had to be out there. I'd be so ashamed and pissed at my team.
@deweyoxburger2963
@deweyoxburger2963 4 жыл бұрын
@@mckoolaid1567 a true baseball fan. If I was an Astro's fan, I'd be more pissed than anyone.
@JustMeELC
@JustMeELC 4 жыл бұрын
Manfred has to vacate that title h take the trophy & pennant or this gets so much worse!
@3waytrayy444
@3waytrayy444 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine being an Astros fan right now 😂
@Reciprocitus
@Reciprocitus 4 жыл бұрын
It ain't too fun right now, i'll tell ya that. 😭
@RealityHurts923
@RealityHurts923 4 жыл бұрын
They are actually very cocky too right now and claim they still earned there championship. Smh
@XxX-wl2dm
@XxX-wl2dm 4 жыл бұрын
Some season holders are suing the Astros already lol
@randoliof
@randoliof 4 жыл бұрын
Most of them seem to think that they would have still won because "we had a good team" Nope. If that was the case they wouldn't have had to cheat.
@romelovesdan
@romelovesdan 4 жыл бұрын
@@Reciprocitus Be upset with their dumb, UNNEEDED CHOICES, but back them and rally around them like a caring family member! When they win...it will be a lesson that will show others you do not need to circumvent rules and not have confidence in your talents. Then everyone can hold their heads up again.
@clintwarner3008
@clintwarner3008 4 жыл бұрын
Commissioner failed...so now the players will handle it on the field. I expect sum good brawls this year.
@VickStarkiller
@VickStarkiller 4 жыл бұрын
clint warner and I can’t wait. This might lead to big ratings for baseball games, especially when the Astros by the road against LA and New York c
@elvincortez2111
@elvincortez2111 4 жыл бұрын
espn will be all over this. all of the yankees astros games should be televised.
@simeonzanechambers2430
@simeonzanechambers2430 4 жыл бұрын
Long time Dodgers fan since 85' and I'm so happy ESPN is talking baseball ( my favorite sport) unfortunately it's for something negative.
@simeonzanechambers2430
@simeonzanechambers2430 4 жыл бұрын
@@SouthWestAliefTexas Yep...thank you Houston Assholes your WS title means nothing.
@anthonycincotta38
@anthonycincotta38 4 жыл бұрын
@@SouthWestAliefTexas somebody missed nap time and needs a diaper change.
@scottyc1093
@scottyc1093 4 жыл бұрын
@@anthonycincotta38 Actually he's not the one crying. Js
@robbase5235
@robbase5235 4 жыл бұрын
Vacate the championship. That will send a message to the rest of the league. The current message is if you cheat, only the manager gets fired and you get to keep the championships you didn't earn.
@jismjacket
@jismjacket 4 жыл бұрын
The Astros mantra....."we won unfair & square!"
@JasonSmith-lf7oi
@JasonSmith-lf7oi 4 жыл бұрын
Y would the guilty party be telling the victims to move on? Is he delusional? This is an absolute farce!!! The stros are a joke!
@jdheelfan
@jdheelfan 4 жыл бұрын
Take down every pennant for every accomplishment they achieved 2017 thru 2019. Fine every player for the amounts they won in the playoffs. Give back the piece of metal.
@mrkneel5760
@mrkneel5760 4 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best discussions on this topic. Thanks for saying Sox too!
@indycolt31
@indycolt31 4 жыл бұрын
Let's just stay on Astros
@MountainMan9712
@MountainMan9712 4 жыл бұрын
Mlb hasn't even finished their investigation yet for the sox right now it's just rumors no actual proof wait for the proof and if it comes out that they did then you can talk about it
@ryanseward2760
@ryanseward2760 4 жыл бұрын
If the MLB actually wants to protect the Astros, they need to vacate the championship. Otherwise it is going to be high and inside pitches all season plus players will be sliding into the defense especially Altuve.
@jcfreaksintx
@jcfreaksintx 4 жыл бұрын
Ryan Seward exactly!!! 👍🏼
@trwwn3804
@trwwn3804 4 жыл бұрын
Cheat on the casinos. Then just tell them it wouldn't have changed the outcome. Tell them to just move on when you ve cashed out. Yeah right, try that sometime.
@Bidwellz9
@Bidwellz9 4 жыл бұрын
well, im no astros fan but....no one can say if they wouldve won or lossed without cheating....people think its just a given the yankees wouldve won when the fact is its baseball, a single inning can result in 25 runs
@josegrullon024
@josegrullon024 4 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU JALEN FOR SPEAKING ABOUT THIS. FINALLY👏👏👏🙏
@xavzerrek2743
@xavzerrek2743 4 жыл бұрын
They cheated and won and nothing happened... great Just remember that if the league won't do $*** the players will
@deweyoxburger2963
@deweyoxburger2963 4 жыл бұрын
The players "might" but the FANS "WILL".
@xavzerrek2743
@xavzerrek2743 4 жыл бұрын
@@deweyoxburger2963 I like that!
@houseofallguardsdatway5001
@houseofallguardsdatway5001 4 жыл бұрын
Or you could say other players would cheat knowing there isn’t any consequences
@xavzerrek2743
@xavzerrek2743 4 жыл бұрын
@@houseofallguardsdatway5001 I think other teams are already doing that, the Astros were just the best cheaters
@michaels2136
@michaels2136 4 жыл бұрын
@@xavzerrek2743 obviously they were the worst cheaters if "everybody does it" and we only know about the astros, genius.
@gonzaloarroyo3579
@gonzaloarroyo3579 4 жыл бұрын
McCullers forgot that Clevinger was the first one to speak out🤣🤣
@caesaro.2286
@caesaro.2286 4 жыл бұрын
Clevinger was hilarious.
@southphillyspud31
@southphillyspud31 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone seems to forget the Patriots were caught cheating multiple times during multiple seasons. Nobody took their Trophy and rings back..
@CraigMcGuinn
@CraigMcGuinn 3 жыл бұрын
That doesn’t make the patriots lack of punishment okay
@universalenergy2311
@universalenergy2311 4 жыл бұрын
@1:58 When Marcus Spears said “you’re going to jail” I can’t be the only one who instinctively thought he would follow with “do not pass go, do not collect $200 dollars”
@CraigMcGuinn
@CraigMcGuinn 2 жыл бұрын
His analogy is spot on though
@austincruz5757
@austincruz5757 4 жыл бұрын
I’m gonna say this as a person who played baseball if I was playing for a championship and the other team cheated To win I would be pretty pissed off
@luismateo1395
@luismateo1395 4 жыл бұрын
Take the 2017 🏆 back and altuves MVP 💯
@ritzkola2302
@ritzkola2302 4 жыл бұрын
They’re my favorite baseball team now!! I forgot all about that sport until this scandal!!
@darthkermit4617
@darthkermit4617 4 жыл бұрын
Hope he lost all respect for the patriots for spy gate. Lets keep that same energy
@runrafarunthebestintheworld
@runrafarunthebestintheworld 4 жыл бұрын
Pfft the Patriots spy gate was nothing. I don't even think they took notes that can possibly help them win the game either. Video footage just isn't enough. There's gotta be more evidence.
@Smock27
@Smock27 4 жыл бұрын
Not even comparable
@ItachiUchiha-qk6qu
@ItachiUchiha-qk6qu 4 жыл бұрын
@Mike Carter the difference is the ppl who actually know the game not casuals like you know that the Pat's didnt get in trouble for taping. Thy got in trouble because of the location. Everyone tapes
@XxSTEVE559xX
@XxSTEVE559xX 4 жыл бұрын
I love Marcus Spears. He’s the same way I am. I always tell my brother and sister whenever I know they’re lying or I know they stole something the same thing. I just shake my head and tell them to hone their craft
@bryan5576
@bryan5576 4 жыл бұрын
can someone explain what they did?
@Spicy_Guava
@Spicy_Guava 4 жыл бұрын
I didn’t know the RS investigation is out.
@keithschilligo3355
@keithschilligo3355 4 жыл бұрын
Typical ESPN. 2 ex NBA players and 1 ex NFL player talking about baseball.
@Dashman98
@Dashman98 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with taking away things from the Astros, the problem is that a lot of people will wonder why things weren't taken away from past players: Bonds' 4 consecutive MVPs, the 1919 world series, the homerun titles. Regardless, i think they should start now
@mommygarcia9137
@mommygarcia9137 4 жыл бұрын
Well said Jalen & the rest of you !! Well said !!
@dkharry
@dkharry 4 жыл бұрын
I know I'm late to the party, but.. What about Marwin Gonzalez, etal.. Do we throw at him (others that left)? Thanks 😁
@dharmaram7527
@dharmaram7527 4 жыл бұрын
Astros: Move along now, there’s nothing to dwell over here. Nobody:
@terrymcdon7600
@terrymcdon7600 4 жыл бұрын
There is so much more to this than what these guys know. Watch rich eisen’s interview with the baseball reporter to understand the full situation.
@rickc1102
@rickc1102 4 жыл бұрын
Just another reason why Baseball is becoming less popular than the NBA and the NFL.
@htxtexans
@htxtexans 4 жыл бұрын
Baseball has always been less popular than the NBA and NFL. Lol baseball is only relevant when a scandal happens.
@notoriouseagle1074
@notoriouseagle1074 4 жыл бұрын
And the NHL soon
@atate23
@atate23 4 жыл бұрын
You can almost 100% gaureente that Dodgers/Astros will be on the interleague schedule next yr lol
@willster8759
@willster8759 4 жыл бұрын
Tater Tot it’s every 3 years. It rotates it’s not like NBA were games are specifically scheduled to be premier games. MLB schedules are made years in advance. They may play each other, I’m not sure we’re they are in the rotation.
@Hanover-ek4jy
@Hanover-ek4jy 4 жыл бұрын
Thank You Jalen!
@carlosrulez174
@carlosrulez174 4 жыл бұрын
Live in LA and not even mad 😂 won bets both in 2017 and 2018
@davidbarnes4742
@davidbarnes4742 4 жыл бұрын
This is equivalent to playing a team in football and know what play they are running on offense
@Spartanshaq777
@Spartanshaq777 4 жыл бұрын
David Barnes NEW ENGLAND *cough* *cough*
@shaquille.oatmeal8907
@shaquille.oatmeal8907 3 жыл бұрын
I like how they are the ones who cheated yet they are acting like everyone is against them
@justdancing5371
@justdancing5371 4 жыл бұрын
Take back the goods good point
@ryanjohansson8950
@ryanjohansson8950 4 жыл бұрын
The Astro’s have shown absolutely no class, humility or respect after getting caught cheating. It’s laughable that these players are telling people that they didn’t do anything wrong, that everyone should get over it, etc. What a bunch of lowlife, classless cheaters.
@raider1978raider
@raider1978raider 4 жыл бұрын
Well said Jalen!!!
@ericdraven7857
@ericdraven7857 4 жыл бұрын
Baseball had a judge as a commissioner before. Black Sox anyone?
@retrogameguy9941
@retrogameguy9941 4 жыл бұрын
what's really sad about this and I haven't seen mentioned by anyone at all is they did this the year Texas was hit by the hurricane. winning the ring gave the fans something to be happy about. it took their minds off of reality and the attitude displayed by guys like Reddick is a slap in the face to the people who spend the money on tickets. yup like I said it's just sad.
@ellemonroe3058
@ellemonroe3058 4 жыл бұрын
That’s right we gonna call you out until you do the right thing!
@eddiebrock9943
@eddiebrock9943 4 жыл бұрын
L.A. DODGERS 💪💪👊👊
@StarscreamvsMegatron
@StarscreamvsMegatron 4 жыл бұрын
It’s funny how the Asterisks slogan is ‘Take It Back’
@rl8571
@rl8571 4 жыл бұрын
Explain what the 2017 Astros had a better offensive rating on the road than at home please?
@daniellivingstone6957
@daniellivingstone6957 4 жыл бұрын
RL OnEarth Check the playoffs split instead of just referring to the regular season where they weren’t using it every game.
@gibranleon8221
@gibranleon8221 4 жыл бұрын
Jalen's blazer 🔥🔥🔥🔥
@stevecoronado8608
@stevecoronado8608 4 жыл бұрын
Manfred is putting the Astros players in danger. Take away the trophy, rings. Banned from playoff contention for the next 5 years. More road games than home games. Pretty simple. Get it done you coward!
@wajahatali1234
@wajahatali1234 4 жыл бұрын
And face months and months of grievances filed by the players union. Will he work or sort those grievances out during that time? You have to think long term mate.
@Mafia-Zilla99
@Mafia-Zilla99 4 жыл бұрын
Houston professional team owners and GM’s have been taking a lot of heat for the last couple years now with... 1. Bob McNair comment about “inmates” 2. Houston Rockets GM Daryl Morey tweet about Hong Kong 3. Now Aj Hinch and Jeft Luhnow for sign stealing It kinda sucks to live in this city but kinda glad I never rooted these teams.
@j.concepcion9168
@j.concepcion9168 4 жыл бұрын
So we taking 2 of the NE Patriots Super Bowls away too? And Brady’s rings?
@mdace34
@mdace34 4 жыл бұрын
Heres how to solve the problem Be proactive Allow catchers and pitchers to have a device with which they cam communicate signs. No more fingers between the legs and therefore no chance to steal signs
@bobr5274
@bobr5274 4 жыл бұрын
They can keep their Trophy and Rings that they didn’t earn as a reminder of the Championship they they didn’t earn. Mlb can punish them by making their pitchers tell every opposing batter the pitch they are going to throw. We will then see if it has an impact on the game!
@edgardo034
@edgardo034 4 жыл бұрын
100% agreed
@marshallyoo6726
@marshallyoo6726 4 жыл бұрын
Asking people to move on is 1. Not how it works people move on at their own pace. You wouldn't tell someone to get over someone dying or something. 2. Just shows how the Astros players fundamentally lack the understanding of what they did and how upset people are.
@bobomaigret5430
@bobomaigret5430 4 жыл бұрын
How about fans boycott all Astros games, home and away? Send the MLB a message.
@DuckFanDane
@DuckFanDane 4 жыл бұрын
Jeffrey Levy I mean I agree with you but most of the Astro vans are out defending the Astros like their title so they’re not gonna have anything like that happen
@cdai216
@cdai216 4 жыл бұрын
Jeffrey Levy not that big of a deal lol
@bobomaigret5430
@bobomaigret5430 4 жыл бұрын
@@DuckFanDane Good point. That leaves all the rest of us to send a message to all the owners. We don't want to pay to see any team play the Astros.
@DuckFanDane
@DuckFanDane 4 жыл бұрын
Jeffrey Levy I know and they should and truthfully I am disappointed that Astro players are acting the way they are acting they are setting an example of what not to do when you get caught cheating and the fans are encouraging them it’s disgusting
@DuckFanDane
@DuckFanDane 4 жыл бұрын
C Dai If no one went to baseball games for one week of spring training it would be a huge deal
@toxicmoldmedia
@toxicmoldmedia 4 жыл бұрын
I think it’s fair that pitchers and catchers can have some kind of buzzer system to determine what pitch they want to throw. It would be impossible to cheat. I don’t think there’s a rule saying the catcher has to use hand signs... but careers and millions and millions of dollars are at stake with this technology.. you just have to use technology against technology to beat it
@prod.justjae9957
@prod.justjae9957 4 жыл бұрын
Imma cardinals fan I. Don’t really care but don’t y’all praise the pats and they are proven cheaters themselves🧐🧐🧐
@JLOCK314
@JLOCK314 4 жыл бұрын
BIG FACTS
@jzoetheshit
@jzoetheshit 4 жыл бұрын
Rajae Jones hmmmmmmmmmm
@DuckFanDane
@DuckFanDane 4 жыл бұрын
Rajae Jones Look I hate the patriots and I agree that their first three sb aren’t exactly legitimate because they were watching the practices but this was actually put into the game during the game all those other circumstances are not as bad as this is. I guess I can understand people rooting for the patriots because they didn’t cheat like the Astros .
@miguelhuerta8529
@miguelhuerta8529 4 жыл бұрын
Lol
@cdai216
@cdai216 4 жыл бұрын
Rajae Jones big facts. Everyone just wants to be a part of the media pile on
@damienj.womack133
@damienj.womack133 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, yeah...
@scootsmcdoots80
@scootsmcdoots80 4 жыл бұрын
It’s other teams fault for not coming up with a more secure way of choosing pitches.
@denverthugget1
@denverthugget1 4 жыл бұрын
I used to rate McCullers too smfh. They should give the Chip back and be required to pay a yearly fine to every MLB team and the MLB too for the next 3 years.
@albertmotbey1128
@albertmotbey1128 4 жыл бұрын
In Australia, a team cheated for 5 years straight. The governing body of the sport took their 2 titles away from them that they "earned" in that time. They also took away all wins from the season they were currently in. The world series title for the Astros should be taken off them
@CPGEVENTS
@CPGEVENTS 4 жыл бұрын
100%!!!!
@UserNoFindy
@UserNoFindy 4 жыл бұрын
Not only does winning a championship cause the team itself to gain revenue, via jersey sales, shirts, hats and anything that says “champs” on it, but it also brings thousands to the city where they are from, its sickening.
@hugoking9778
@hugoking9778 4 жыл бұрын
It's only a piece of metal so I'm not watching MLB ever again until the Astros are stripped and the commissioner is gone
@subg8858
@subg8858 4 жыл бұрын
I've never been one to argue on behalf of Pete Rose even though I like him and loved him as a player, fact is mlb can't tolerate gambling, but Ol' Pete is an angel compared to this. Betting on your team to win vs. cheating at a massive systematic level. I mean, come on now
@veerchasm1
@veerchasm1 4 жыл бұрын
Big talk from a bunch of cheaters
@JoshuaKimbrough
@JoshuaKimbrough 4 жыл бұрын
Wow ESPN talking about baseball wow!!!
@louminox3065
@louminox3065 4 жыл бұрын
The asterisks are really asking for 90 MPH fastballs to their heads.
@OutsideLookingInSports
@OutsideLookingInSports 4 жыл бұрын
Well they are the Patriots of the MLB. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@ravi8490
@ravi8490 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a Jets fan so I despise the Patriots but I think this is much worse than anything Pats did
@OutsideLookingInSports
@OutsideLookingInSports 4 жыл бұрын
@@ravi8490 it's a joke, I'm a Bills and f***'em. Hey no mono next year. I expect a good game with y'all. I say we split it 1w each
@ravi8490
@ravi8490 4 жыл бұрын
@@OutsideLookingInSports haha we'll see man, Bills have a really tough defense, we need more playmakers.
@OutsideLookingInSports
@OutsideLookingInSports 4 жыл бұрын
@@ravi8490 yeah, but lets see Sam and Allen year 3... still unsure of them both. Both our seasons hangs on the QB play next season. Never underestimate how Mia NYJ and the Bills can make a fool of themselves.
@pomerlain8924
@pomerlain8924 4 жыл бұрын
@Mike Carter The Patriots never got real time information on what play was being run by the opposition, like being told when a defense is blitzing or when the offense is going to run a draw play or a crossing pattern. That would have been equivalent to the Astros' cheating.
@sabes44
@sabes44 4 жыл бұрын
Astros pulled a patriots
@DanielRivera-ox6fr
@DanielRivera-ox6fr 4 жыл бұрын
Lance McCullers is basically saying "the Dodgers are only talking cuz they don't play us this year". Ok? Judge, Trout, and many others that DO play you have spoken up as well. You think they're afraid that they play you?
@carlosphonelog1927
@carlosphonelog1927 4 жыл бұрын
As a dodgers Fan I was wishing they would have played @ dodgers stadium during regular season.
@jamesnguyen6702
@jamesnguyen6702 4 жыл бұрын
As a non baseball fan, I would take away the remainder of the players salary who cheated and take the amount of money the Astros made and ban them from the playoffs
@jamesnguyen6702
@jamesnguyen6702 4 жыл бұрын
I would do this for any other sport too. There’s gotta be huge consequences or teams would just keep cheating.
@panoramicview8173
@panoramicview8173 4 жыл бұрын
It's not surprising that the Astros have taken this stance. They have been enabled by the commissioner. If some of them received year long or indefinite suspensions along with being stripped of their title we would see a more humble and remorseful attitude.
@MajorCaptainCabron
@MajorCaptainCabron 4 жыл бұрын
Altuve “Most Valuable Pipsqueak”
@Jaystarmedia
@Jaystarmedia 4 жыл бұрын
Media is driving this
@DamnUsernameTakenFU
@DamnUsernameTakenFU 4 жыл бұрын
If this was hockey, every teAm they play will empty their bench to do some good ol fisticuffs. 5 min major or suspension is all good for these players. Offending team will eventually run out of players due to suspensions. LoL
@larrytipton2868
@larrytipton2868 4 жыл бұрын
South Park really needs to do an episode about the Astros, maybe the Red Sox too!
@lilmelt007
@lilmelt007 4 жыл бұрын
Jalen C'mon man..lets not forget about the Michigan scandal..so don't be so quick to judge..
@Kingsandthings23
@Kingsandthings23 4 жыл бұрын
It can be no different than a NBA scouting report & watching film of the other team? Are they serious
@marcoshernandez8643
@marcoshernandez8643 4 жыл бұрын
Fatsnackz The Boss Not a good analogy what the Astros did would be like if the warriors had cameras on the opponents bench looking at the play that the coach is making on his whiteboard
@edmaechler8197
@edmaechler8197 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve got an idea. If the Astros say that knowing the pitch doesn’t help; allow all teams they are playing this year to video all their pitches during a game!
@FunkyFanthom
@FunkyFanthom 4 жыл бұрын
The commissioner could have done BOTH (give the players immunity for their testimony AND vacated the 2017 championship), but did not have the courage (and/or foresight) to make the right call. The bottom line here is...he blew it.
@terence9405
@terence9405 4 жыл бұрын
can't say it any better than Spears did!
@ainttellinu6491
@ainttellinu6491 4 жыл бұрын
Every team seeks whatever competitive advantage they can get. Some teams just cheat better than others. Are they gonna just take every title from every sports team in history?
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