Jalen Rose, Skip Bayless, and Stephen A. Smith debate media criticism, and reactions from athletes Part 4 of 5 on 4/11/2012
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@adamflores58514 жыл бұрын
ESPN v Jalen Rose. Rose is outnumbered and more than holding his ground.
@jasonhowe44844 жыл бұрын
jalen rose has no arguement scrwew all all.
@Turbo99874 жыл бұрын
lol no he’s not. He’s butthurt because SAS and Skip are good at their jobs.
@vishnuprakash813 жыл бұрын
@@jasonhowe4484 he has got a strong argument.. What you even talking about
@mell64813 жыл бұрын
@@jasonhowe4484 What are you listening to if that's your stance? lol
@jbtreshawn3 жыл бұрын
@ELJAY no skip said what type of player was Jalen. As demeaning as possible he combated with bringing up Skip basketball days. That was the arguement and that is why skip Lost
@tonysobon46695 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jalen Rose for legit hurting Skip feelings and making him look like a fool on T.V.
@deppresedonion632010 ай бұрын
Amen to that gotta love Jalen but Skip dosent need help to make a fool of himself on tv he does a great job of that all by himself.
@donaldanderson64086 жыл бұрын
All this cause skip cant handle being Water Pistol Pete Jr 😃😃😃 But got nicknames for LeBron T.O. , Iverson Chris Bosh Skip is just butt hurt
@eswift31605 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@ericplnc14 жыл бұрын
@@eswift3160 100%. He can dish it but can't take it.
@TheKingofKings22724 жыл бұрын
That’s wasn’t why Skip took issue with what Jalen said y’all completely missed the point. Just to make some silly joke
@reggiesmith61964 жыл бұрын
Donald Anderson u better thank that butthurt nigga cuz this is one of the best debates to date
@xelitecody46034 жыл бұрын
Donald Anderson SKIP IS NOT AN NBA PLAYER
@4440ch5 жыл бұрын
Jalen, you nailed it. Its a slander party now days. The Jerry West analogy was very true.
@samuelvillanueva38994 жыл бұрын
Jerry west didnt call himself the greatest of all time
@MrSmith-fl2jn3 жыл бұрын
@@samuelvillanueva3899 but other people did and because of it skip would have went against the grain and challenge that
@mitchmitch82373 жыл бұрын
💯💯
@Trey_Cole3 жыл бұрын
Look man freedom of speech. That’s really it. Slippery slope. Don’t limit freedom of speech period. Ever
@drieksworld36933 жыл бұрын
I agree
@DizzyDaGodTelevision7 жыл бұрын
His Jerry west comment was accurate
@turk_davinci3 жыл бұрын
Correct because of in the way they go at lebron
@whatssogoodaboutindy66964 жыл бұрын
The Jerry West analogy or analysis was gold.
@mikeoley132 жыл бұрын
So good and skip knew it.
@bhaine1310 жыл бұрын
After this debate I got a lot more respect for Jalen Rose. H'es just pointing out the responsibilities of journalism because sometimes these guys do cross the line.
@domwilson25059 жыл бұрын
I lost respect. He seems dumb. He looks down on people who weren't able to play professionally. That has nothing to do with the debar they were having
@forzaacmilan365 жыл бұрын
Dom Wilson What the hell are you talking about? Obviously being a PRO athlete provides a better perspective for people who’re not PRO athletes. That’s just a fact. Just look at how both Skip and S.A.S utterly disrespect and assasinate players characters. While Ex pros give a more informed opinion on topics.
@arizonaFIREent5 жыл бұрын
@@forzaacmilan36 jrose is an idiot
@kylek17425 жыл бұрын
Forza Ac Milan are you kidding me? There are countless dumbass former players
@RenaldyCalixte4 жыл бұрын
@@forzaacmilan36 That's not true lots of former players go overboard in their criticism. Have you ever watched Charles Barkley? I believe he is a Hall of Fame NBA player.
@bullettomy7thheart8 жыл бұрын
One of the best segments in First Take history
@soulloww27523 жыл бұрын
Im happy jalen Took this job like he said he tryna do the opposite of what the media trying to do jerry west was a buss but nobody takinf about that .
@mikeh72202 жыл бұрын
@@soulloww2752 Jerry West wasn’t a bust. WTF are you talking about? 🤣
@terryindachat7296 Жыл бұрын
@@mikeh7220 Jerry West lost 9 straight finals yet no one ever holds that against him and he's the NBA Logo but they cream their pants at the fact that LeBron lost 6 finals... let that sink in.
@rdogletree454310 ай бұрын
@@mikeh7220Yes Jerry West definitely wasn't a bust, going 1-8 in the finals back then wasn't because he sucked. He lost because the Celtics were just better than everyone else, Wilt Chamberlain couldn't beat them either. The Celtics had Hall of Famers coming off the bench, that's just how great they were.
@rilyjonez5 жыл бұрын
The composure by Jalen.. During the entire debate .. Got me working more on my personality.. So so impressive.. Salute ..
@shermantaylor17482 жыл бұрын
It was impressive he was wrong but kept a str8 face
@rilyjonez2 жыл бұрын
@@shermantaylor1748 how did you determine him being wrong
@shermantaylor17482 жыл бұрын
@@rilyjonez because the point of a public figure is you release your life to the public...especially when it deals with your profession....why u think there's such thing as IGN and Yelp!!!...however the thing that happened here was skip caught Jalen's underlying point which was if you haven't played at this level u should shut up....so everytime they held him to that he would bring feelings involved as if....nicknames isn't a part of entertaining the sports media....how come he don't complain about the positive nicknames like the truth or primetime...hell deion loves that so much thats basically his first name.... Sometimes ppl say things without saying them....and skip and Steven A both caught Jalen making a terrible assumption and they held him to it....for example skip pointed out that many to most GMs and Coaches aren't ex players and if they were most weren't that good at it....because as skip said....when your great at something sometimes u missed the details of things because ur a natural....so yessss Jalen was wrong....he was just another men being on t.v and emotional.....how many times u think Jalen called someone a bum on and off da court...let's be honest
@rilyjonez2 жыл бұрын
@@shermantaylor1748 ok according to you..doesn't make you right and him wrong..
@daviddowling28222 жыл бұрын
Word I was getting up out of my chair and face palming multiple times
@vaingoe96536 жыл бұрын
Skip got called out and can’t take what he dishes. I’m 100% on Rose’s side.
@kennye30114 жыл бұрын
@Michael Swadberg typical Skip mentality..don't agree so let's name call..🤣🤣🤣 mfrs so predictable
@mwcarolina4 жыл бұрын
I’m not 100% on Rose’s side....I do agree that Rose insulting Skip was great and Skip DESERVED it!! But I disagree with Jalen on Kwame not being a scrub
@dieselx5064 жыл бұрын
He schooled him big time while being very professional at it
@dieselx5064 жыл бұрын
@@mwcarolina to be fair he didn't say he wasn't a scrub, cause Brown was a BONAFIDE scrub but he said that he had to have some talent to be employed in the NBA and that he was not as good as his peers or compare to the great players of his era
@mwcarolina4 жыл бұрын
To me Rose came off saying that Brown is worth playing in the nba...that was my issue with it. I’m great with what Rose said to Skip, really in my book THIS episode showed that Skip is a MAJOR hypocrite, but no doubt Brown was a scrub and really on that date, he shouldn’t have been playing in the nba
@bukofezra5 жыл бұрын
Jalen made a great point about Jerry West going to 9 straight finals and losing all of them...yet he is still regarded as Mr. Clutch?...lol today we wouldn't let him walk down the street! he's so right.
@weakling3344 жыл бұрын
How many finals did Jalen go to? How many championships did the big mouth trash talker go to. He is a punk a hypocrite.
@thegianttroll24234 жыл бұрын
Dam
@allergictofollowing4 жыл бұрын
@@weakling334 shut up Jerry west jr
@WhoIsYourDaddy4 жыл бұрын
Facts
@SnapBackBoy19994 жыл бұрын
david Last shut up bitch
@DC4L19918 жыл бұрын
Skip got mad because Jalen called him bum basically but he sits on tv all day and calls dudes who are getting paid millions to do a job that not even 1 percent of the population can qualify for. Jalen basically gave Skip a small dose of his own medicine and he couldn't take it.
@timoliver31317 жыл бұрын
Amen! It ain't funny when the rabbit gets the gun!
@arizonaFIREent5 жыл бұрын
How many mvps and rings does jrose have again?
@bhongtastic5 жыл бұрын
spot on
@foxmolnar62585 жыл бұрын
@@arizonaFIREent as many as Skip and Stephen A. which only illustrates the hypocrisy that Jalen was calling them out on.
@tonysobon46695 жыл бұрын
@@arizonaFIREent I'm guessing this is Skip making an account based on the logic of this comment.
@neetrab3 жыл бұрын
5:30 - I had NO idea Jerry West went to 9 straight finals and lost every one of them. WOWWWWW!!!
@blackpow3r3 жыл бұрын
When they came back from commercial, Jalen killed Skip. "Are reporters fair game to criticize and slander like they do to athletes?" "Yeah!" "Well, that's what happened yesterday. 🤷🏾♂️" Silence...
@rks54572 жыл бұрын
Lol yep. And Jalen pretty much let out that they had to have this whole segment because Skip got hurt yesterday. Skip probably went to the executives crying saying that Jalen hurt his "great" reputation and the viewers won't respect him anymore lol. Like I don't know anybody who respects either Stephan A or Skip. I feel like people just watch them because they're loud and make an ass out of themselves and unfortunately, ESPN is basically the only legit 24hr sports channel and these idiots are on all the time. They trying to turn sports news into reality tv like gossip and bs.
@w.g.1212 жыл бұрын
Reporters don't make the money most athletes do.
@kb729772 жыл бұрын
@@w.g.121 true but marquee tv personalities are in the same tax bracket
@Curteezy5 ай бұрын
Yes sir that was an absolute mic drop 💯 Case closed.
@BillDoa3 жыл бұрын
Look how Mama's son has me back here 🤜🏽
@boofogle3 жыл бұрын
Wow. That Jerry west analogy was deep
@TitanPardy8084 жыл бұрын
Jalen is as cool as the other side of the pillow. My man shows great poise beating these two "pros " at their own game. Loved every second.
@kennye30114 жыл бұрын
Skip just bringing up HS basketball is laughable to J Rose🤣🤣
@claykingmuzik3 жыл бұрын
"If Jerry West played today, there's no way he'd be the logo"!!! Well said Jalen!!
@fordatimebeing3 жыл бұрын
They cut him off quickly when he said that!!
@odysseus16602 жыл бұрын
Tbf not even Jerry West wants to be the logo
@jeromeinthehousesowatchyam42372 жыл бұрын
@@odysseus1660 he would if they were paying him what they should, I don’t even think they’ve flat out said it was him due to the money they would have to pay💯
@KCKickReviews10 жыл бұрын
There's no way Jerry West would be Mr. Clutch, there's no way he'd be The Logo, 9 straight NBA Finals and lost?!? He wouldn't be able to walk down the street. #FactsOnly
@arizonaFIREent5 жыл бұрын
You're stupid he's one of the greatest players ever and I'm a Celtics fan who hates the lakers
@mademan_76245 жыл бұрын
@@arizonaFIREent Jordan should be the logo. J. West a fucking over rated bum!!! He couldn't hold Magic's jock strap.
@akeemalston80445 жыл бұрын
Tha Ruthless 1_ AZF so why do ppl rag Bron and he’s won 3 of 8
@emwebb105 жыл бұрын
akeem alston because that’s the norm now, since we have social media and everybody can post their opinion
@dkirk33584 жыл бұрын
@@akeemalston8044 exactly ... 3 for 8 and skip rips him every time he misses a free throw this guy went 0 for 9 but he the greatest but he is one thing lebron isn't and thats white
@gamian_skillard13338 жыл бұрын
Jalen Rose's hood skills coming into frame.
@arizonaFIREent5 жыл бұрын
That's not a good thing and I grew up in the hood
@SnapBackBoy19994 жыл бұрын
Tha Ruthless 1_ AZF hood knowledge could be your most useful asset if u channel it Jalen is a perfect example
@lbj23204 жыл бұрын
@@arizonaFIREent I can't imagine growing up in "the hood". I've watched youtube videos of guys driving through hoods at night and gas stations... boyyyy boyyyy just terrifying
@SeverancePay5003 жыл бұрын
@@arizonaFIREent nigga please
@basedgod50133 жыл бұрын
@@arizonaFIREent *Trailer Park*
@jondoe4064 жыл бұрын
All this because Jalen did to skip once what Skip did to athletes everyday LOL
@Nomack7511 жыл бұрын
Jalen destroyed Skip on so many levels.
@tonyvaughn1396 Жыл бұрын
My opinion skip,don't like BLACK
@kinggreen71205 жыл бұрын
Water pistol Pete really hurt skip feelings that touched him deep lmaol
@DJRenee3 жыл бұрын
LOL 😆🤣😆
@alchivlogs23683 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@alexsmith35183 жыл бұрын
This is one time Stephen A couldn't interrupt while someone else was talking. Jalen was killing them 🤣🤣🤣
@ericostling47272 жыл бұрын
No he wasn’t
@mwcarolina Жыл бұрын
I don’t think he was killing Stephen A, Skip? Yes!! Skip’s whole argument made ZERO sense. He gets offended for being called out with his poor basketball play and he thinks it’s “crossing the line” and he was wrong.
@great1004 Жыл бұрын
No he wasnt, alex you douche
@alexsmith3518 Жыл бұрын
@@great1004 Yeah he was u doofus!!! And stay off my box
@walterdanner6372 Жыл бұрын
SKIP: I'M A FIGHTER MAN, OH YEAH, BTW, IMA HATER TOO, SKIP HATER, PITIFUL
@michaelbladow14535 жыл бұрын
Jalen has class and respects players regardless of their salaries ! e owned Winer Skip andloud mouth Stephen A ! He s an A+ person
@tipp018310 жыл бұрын
Absolutely right about the Media and Jerry West.
@3000Degreez4 жыл бұрын
That Jerry West comment was on point. They would have torched as they did the Buffalo Bills for 4 straight Super Bowl failures
@SusanBuford10 жыл бұрын
Stephen A. are all of your friendships based on blackmail?
@Blodia19905 жыл бұрын
Lol'd hard
@justinwilliams89154 жыл бұрын
Roberto Masensi so are mines especially with the hoes
@ericcunningham97764 жыл бұрын
Probably cause of who he is and how well he really know these athletes
@Johenz4 жыл бұрын
@@ericcunningham9776 Stephen a really know there's athletes and know more than he says. Teammates and ppl in their circle talk and spill the beans. Plus he use his platform to puts guys like Jalen rose on. Sas point is you can't disrespect the media when you're trying to be part of the media.
@dieselx5064 жыл бұрын
He looked bad on that one
@adeoyakunmi5013 жыл бұрын
Jalen absolutely schooled skip
@isaiahstevenson89233 жыл бұрын
Kwame Brown brought me here
@warunchaivathanasin21065 жыл бұрын
Comedic how Stephen A Smith continues to drift from the main point. He's like a lawyer throwing a hell of a lot of red herring.
@democratssuck98567 жыл бұрын
Skip looks like he wants to cry so bad...
@KavalierKhalil5 жыл бұрын
Majorly butthurt!
@dieselx5064 жыл бұрын
He probably was in the inside
@mauricek24644 жыл бұрын
He probably did in the car...
@DJRenee3 жыл бұрын
Super hurt. He needs some preparation H
@tellmesumngood7 жыл бұрын
They switch the subject after the Jerry West comment. Go Jalen for killing them on that one.
@3000Degreez4 жыл бұрын
Calvin Blair he destroyed them with that one. They had to switch the subject. Things that make u go hmmmmmm 🤣
@1sdubois4 жыл бұрын
They sure did, it was dead silence!! Like a sacred name you don't dare utter in public!
@paularkins60394 жыл бұрын
@@1sdubois voldemort style?
@patking34352 жыл бұрын
Move it quick
@NEO_RedPill_20243 жыл бұрын
That Jerry West point by Jalen was on point.
@ayyemoedc55333 жыл бұрын
“That’s what happened yesterday.” Haymaker of the whole conversation. *Don Demarco*
@rjxlee99606 жыл бұрын
Jalen Rose is the man! Skip Bayless was given a dose of his own medicine by Jalen. Skip does not have it and makes a career out of sensationalizing his twisted opinions.
@jazztravis68174 жыл бұрын
Jalen look lost
@patrickgrady75053 жыл бұрын
@@jazztravis6817 nope
@gregoryvilfranc930610 жыл бұрын
Great point about Jerry West. Should've ended the conversation right there.
@CHICANO19753 жыл бұрын
Jay Crawford tearing down skips "Superstars aren't good talent evaluators" was great.
@jasonredhorn69734 жыл бұрын
I remember watching this 8 years ago. Time flies
@terrancelewis81369 жыл бұрын
crossing the line is what produces ratings lets not fool ourselves..
@joeyork31796 жыл бұрын
Terrance Lewis right. This argument is pointless
@sheli54836 жыл бұрын
As a fan. I'm glad that I got to enjoy MJ's career, in a climate where he didn't have to worry about exposes and attacks delving into his personal life. I think he and his family handled that fine. and privately.
@pauljohn00015 жыл бұрын
@@sheli5483 MJ was great nba player noting to attack however personal life i dont know
@sheli54835 жыл бұрын
Watching 3 peat #2 was great. That was sports. Now we can watch " the last dance" doc to peek behind the scenes - drama. All entertainment I guess.
@alexedsell81385 жыл бұрын
Absolutely and no one is going to admit that. As a matter of fact if respect was given to everyone..no one would watch..there job is to keep the show interesting..screw the facts, screw feelings.. let's make it fun. Period.
@shaunmc0135 жыл бұрын
Ahhhh.... I see Jake's point for a minute there I thought Stephen and Skip had him. But Jalen killed it when he said this is why he got into it, so he can be the opposite.
@keithglenn97465 жыл бұрын
If you can't take it, don't dish it out! Skip got emotional and he looks silly talking about his feelings when all he does is attack athletes for underperforming. Buck up Skip!
@w.g.1212 жыл бұрын
If you're getting paid millions of dollars to do a job and you're not good at it, you're fair game.
@caltonlee63665 жыл бұрын
Jalen I have much respect for you. Keep up the good work.
@neroresurrected7 жыл бұрын
Jalen owned this argument from start to finish. It's no coincidence that he was never invited back after this segment, which by way is still being viewed and getting hits 5 yrs after it happened and counting. That is also no coincidence, because it was unfiltered and unscripted not like 99.9% of their shows past and present. Jalen was never invited back because he told it like it is with respect to ethics and sports analysts. The reason Jalen never came back to first take was Because Skip controlled first take at that time and everything having to do with that show, and Skip didn't want Jalen publicly calling him out the way he had in the segment before this one. In the end, By banning Jalen first take and Skip at the time validated Jalen's point.
@JennaJennaFoFenna Жыл бұрын
Wow. After watching this conversation, its pretty obvious that Steven and Shannon feel threatened by Jalen Rose who is an actual qualified analyst and has also mastered his sport. There are plenty of players who majored in communications and writing that can do Skip and Steven's job better.
@AnthologistM9 ай бұрын
U mean skip
@linqihui55828 жыл бұрын
bottom line is people who played the game will always think they know the game better than the ones who sit on the sideline just watch the game and talk about it, which i agree with
@wyndsrfr165 жыл бұрын
This is flawed logic. It's like saying that because a male OBGYN never gave birth he can't know as much about human birth as any unstudied mother.
@Eatdie4 жыл бұрын
Right! That's why the GOAT selected Kwame Brown.
@patrickgrady75053 жыл бұрын
@@wyndsrfr16 apples and oranges, buddy
@mademan_76245 жыл бұрын
WATER PISTOL PETE!!!!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂
@BYTking6 жыл бұрын
their backs against the wall and its great. skip and Steven A look so foolish.
@BoldenFMA3 жыл бұрын
What SAS "could've said" shouldn't be mentioned, even in passing. Thats bitch-made smh
@littleman9383 жыл бұрын
Even Chris carter defended kwame brown! He said he’d have a stack of money on kwame vs a regular person 1 on 1
@josecuervo18369 жыл бұрын
jalen is right
@robertjenkins32485 жыл бұрын
Both Screamin A and Skippointless are both taking it personal or this program particular debate wouldnt happen
@johnnierichardson57567 жыл бұрын
The sad part is, is that when Jalen Rose points out the fact he asked Skip Bayless a question about his sports career, in a less disrespectful way, and Skip took it personal. Skip Bayless still couldn't see or he didn't want to see the point. Skip Bayless thinks its okay to ridicule players because they make big money? Also, Skip Bayless was so hurt about what Jalen Rose said on First Take, he needed to get an apology from him. At the same time Skip Bayless would never apologizes to athletes he openly disrespected. At least Steven A. Smith, preferences his comments now so more than ever, so that people knows exactly what he is talking about, what contexts he is speaking from and where he is coming from. Their is a reason one is still on the show and the other is not. Obviously, ESPN is not in agreement with that type of journalism otherwise the number one sports show would not break up its Award winning two man set up.
@kb729772 жыл бұрын
Skip got offered more money from fox and Disney/Hearst wouldn't match it, thats why he's not there anymore, nothing whatsoever to do with journalistic integrity.
@walterdanner6372 Жыл бұрын
Courtesy of MR. KWAME BROWN. LMAO
@trinalewis64893 жыл бұрын
Jalen Been bringing Mamas cookin!! Shout out to Kwame☺️
@JJR19933 жыл бұрын
Thanks Kwame for exposing dudes like skip and SAS
@bobpenney99735 жыл бұрын
I see why Skip went to Fox now!
@demetriusharris9303 жыл бұрын
They wouldn't let Jalen talk, he asked a question that stuck out, are reporters fair game? If you question my character can't I question your, if you get personal and call me a scrub can't I do the same with you, if you get personal?
@KFelon3 жыл бұрын
They danced around that and started creating their own narrative on the subject smh
@jvjustvibes91033 жыл бұрын
Skip shouldn’t be allowed to name call anymore if he made ESPN run an episode forcing Jalen to apologize for name calling him. Skip’s reaction to this is what made it so famous. If Skip took it with stride then there’d be no problem
@monicapegues40083 жыл бұрын
Jalen Rose.. Ahead of the times! Stand up guy, holding your friend's to task. Staying calm & stating facts...
@Malluminati3 жыл бұрын
SAS didn't want to get involved with the Skip and Jalen argument bcus he would get called out for his lack of sports experience. He quickly backed off
@massacrewhite10 жыл бұрын
Jalen said it right this has become a circus debate.
@user-fu5zk7hs3j10 жыл бұрын
Jalen is on point
@isaacbarrow91553 жыл бұрын
Jay was the goat moderator. first take was an amazing show during these times
@MrCobs0012 жыл бұрын
"How did you do at my job?" Excellent point.
@wrekk9 жыл бұрын
all in all this was a great meeting of the minds. Something refreshing to see... Thanks to all involved.
@MrThekidisback9 жыл бұрын
Word! Real talk.
@isachapron444 жыл бұрын
Big baby skip nameless mad cause he wasn't good now he spews jealous negatives comments at players don't give what you can't take
@asl2g4u12 жыл бұрын
I can't believe we had a whole episode about how skips feelings got hurt...if we had an episode for every time skip hurt someone else's feelings, the show could take 24 hours per episode.
@DontTreadOnUsBlog8 жыл бұрын
The only thing I took from this is ESPN sucks for taking multiple commercial breaks during this. For one, it just fucks up the entire flow, when you've got something good going, ride it out. Two, you know damn well the argument continued during break, since this was a live show.... You're ESPN, tell the advertisers to calm down, they'll still work with you.
@kingtim_ade7 жыл бұрын
hahahaha right lol
@tonyreynolds57686 жыл бұрын
still don't see it!!!
@RedFaceeee6 жыл бұрын
This is a therapy session for Skip
@maroontiger3 жыл бұрын
Facts... like i wanna know how long skip lasted (@ESPN) after this
@calebwebster35752 жыл бұрын
@@maroontiger like 4 years
@Wormanatti10 жыл бұрын
Jalen's comment around 2:00 mark is the whole cruck of the debate. Neither Skip or Stephen have done anything professional on the court. How you call somebody a scrub or bum! How many points or minutes they log on the court!
@robertkevorkian98809 жыл бұрын
It's there job to analyze what the players do on the court. Just because Stephen A and Skip doesn't play, doesn't mean that they don't have the right to call someone a scrub. If he can't play then You have the right to criticize someone. I could be the worst player in the NBA and still realize that someone in the MLB is the worst baseball player. It all has relevance. That's what they voice it off of. If you can't play we have the right to comment on it
@Wormanatti9 жыл бұрын
Using your logic then Skip shouldn't have whined like a baby when Jalen called his game out in high school. Stephen & Skip are arrogant clowns.
@robertkevorkian98809 жыл бұрын
I'm not denying that. And Steven A actually agnoliges this. He always said that he was a scrub on his HS team. But Skip brings up the point that his coach hated him and he was never able to be the player he wanted to be. Now we don't really know if it's true but that's what he says. And he even said that the reason he was offended was because he thought Jaylen was calling him a lier. Not because of his game. So Steven A is no idiot cause he sees this within himself at HS. If it's anyone who could be the idiot it's either Jaylen or Skip depending on your side of the argument
@domwilson25059 жыл бұрын
They are comparing them to other nba players not themselves. If that was the case then all types of guys in media would lose jobs
@domwilson25059 жыл бұрын
And his high school game has absolutely nothing to do with the job. Talking about nba Lol high school play was his past
@johnnierichardson57567 жыл бұрын
Jalen is the man!! am done with watching that type of media attacking players.
@CMlover692 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best segments in sports today
@alejandrocintron38715 жыл бұрын
Skip "I Fought My Way Home A Lot" Bayless
@jcsmooth4410 жыл бұрын
Skip came from a rough neighborhood??? BS
@tyler9264610 жыл бұрын
He grew up in OKC, not a rough neighborhood at all haha
@trainof10 жыл бұрын
Skip killed a kid
@Justcruzinn8 жыл бұрын
forreal, if someone from a struggle they don't give a fuck about what other people do or say....skip thinking trailer trash between the ghetto lol
@debbiewilliams75875 жыл бұрын
@@tyler92646 there are ghettos everywhere even small cities got hoods but this guy is def not from anywhere
@dkirk33584 жыл бұрын
Lol
@kennyscott24213 жыл бұрын
Molly needs to take a page from Jay Crawford man. He let them go at it the whole time
@Stewie-A-Simpson3 жыл бұрын
Jay wasn’t trying put his 2 cents into it. He actually moderated the debate.
@omensoffate3 жыл бұрын
It’s because molly is a wahmen and needs to open her dumb mouth
@michaelwrightjr3004 жыл бұрын
2019 and I'm just seeing this.
@tboi223 жыл бұрын
Brah 2020 just seeing this lol
@CMichMadness611 жыл бұрын
Cris Carter's intake was excellent
@demetriusharris9303 жыл бұрын
It took damn near 20 years for muth!#@$, to see what Kwame real beef is with the media. Fair game!
@EmmanuelStalling10 жыл бұрын
Skip Bayless' listening face is hilarious. Squint...nod...squint....
@terrells57633 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@jazzy_84682 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@bruceharper82323 жыл бұрын
Man! I'm so impressed with Jalen. 😎
@2blakandbold8 жыл бұрын
Kudos Jalen!
@RiverSideJettz887 жыл бұрын
3:08-5:40 all u need to know... this is how it went and handled... skip love lying... smh
@justinsitjar625310 жыл бұрын
Jalen has one good point. Name calling and insults can cross the line for anyone. For example, when Skip called Chris Bosh Bosh Spice, that went over the line. However, if Skip or any reporter/media member simply said that Chris was playing soft or that Kwame Brown can't play and it is proven with his game, then I don't think there should be an issue. Being called soft, selfish, or timid is not slander if it is proven on the court/field. If an athlete is insulted, they can either tune it out or prove them wrong like how Chris Bosh is playing tougher recently than in 2011. Most of the media's criticism of players have some merit are not imagined from the source. To have NBA experience as a pre-requisite to say a professional opinion about a player's performance is ridiculous. Jalen seems to insinuate that the media cannot say anything negatively about athletes because they haven't endured the same tribulations that these athletes are going through except that these athletes are generally being judged by their game. Similarly, an athlete can ridicule a media member PROFESSIONALLY if they do something incorrect such as misrepresenting a statement from a player or organization. For example, when Skip said that Russel was being selfish, Skip pointed out how he has a high usage rate compared to Kevin Durant and how he takes more shots than Kevin which is a fair assessment. Now, if Russel wants to ridicule Skip, Russel should NOT bring up Skip's failures at high school basketball since that is more of a PERSONAL not a PROFESSIONAL criticism of Skip. Skip does not play basketball for a living, he talks for a living and his high school basketball career was an aspect of his personal life.
@domwilson25059 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. First smart comment I've seen. I don't think name calling is so bad if it's in a humorous way but I can agree with most of your points. Jalen seems to have the feeling that judging someone's game is judging them personally.
@shamus2488 жыл бұрын
Dom Wilson Jalen is saying that using a nickname like Prince james or Bosh Spice is a satirical and somewhat insulting way to describe someone's game.
@hexagonoctogon31405 жыл бұрын
Nah name calling because of perception is a bunch of bs
@adrianbowers80505 жыл бұрын
At 4:10 jalen rose should have just dropped the mic and walked off. Debate over!
@darnellshareef3604 жыл бұрын
Stephen A talks too damn much
@kingman-yj2tg4 жыл бұрын
Skippy, came from a rough neighborhood 😅😅 had to fight his way home I'll hilarious... Here it is in a nutshell Skippy can dish it out but he can't take it.
@jcour96413 жыл бұрын
Kwame Brown has me searching all the old videos
@antoinejordan47733 жыл бұрын
Jalen Rose always been a solid dude!
@illc82583 жыл бұрын
Skip didn't draw any conclusions since he keeps crossing the line and especially as a LBJ hater.
@Aeradom200010 жыл бұрын
The point that Jalen Rose misses is that it's okay to bring in criticism to analysts, but it has to be on their job performance. What does Skip's HS bball performance have to do with his analysis? NOTHING. It was a cheap shot by someone not wanting to argue the issues.
@tipp018310 жыл бұрын
No, you missed! that's why Jalen did that to Skip in the first place! He wanted to make the point to Skip that disrespecting people is inappropriate. Jalen is saying that you can critique someones play based on stats and based on play calling without calling them names like "Bosh" Spice... that's bullying and disrespectful because they have to live with that when they go home. His wife, children, parents, nieces, nephews and grandparents are asking him about that bullshit. Players paychecks don't warrant the disrespect. If it did, then its ok for Jalen to disrespect Skip because Skip makes more money than all of us! ALL Skip does is take cheap shots, at least Jalen did it to his face so that Skip could defend himself... Skip does it to players and then tells them to come on his show which is probably hundreds of miles away from where they play just so that they can defend themselves. Thats bullshit.
@Aeradom200010 жыл бұрын
Dwight Stewart Do these men have such thin skinned to be insulted by things like "Bosh Spice". And by the way, he'll face up to anyone he challenges like Howard and Bosh, so you're wrong on that count as well.
@tipp01839 жыл бұрын
Damian Clark I understand what you're saying but its easy when its only 2 or 3 of your friends giving you a hard time but can you imagine thousands of people on a regular basis doing that...people on the street always take it up a notch and test his manhood and shi. These guys just want to play ball, not deal with all the bullshit.
@sjames10129 жыл бұрын
Dwight Stewart That's fair. But these people are well paid role models constantly in the public eye. I would let people call me names for 10 years to get just a fraction of what these men get. With privilege comes responsibility. Everyone has been mocked, demeaned, bullied at one time or another. You'd think that athletes can see through that.
@domwilson25059 жыл бұрын
Exactly. What does his past have to do with the job
@terryindachat7296 Жыл бұрын
ESPN literally stopped all sports debating for 2 days cuz Jalen embarrassed Skip on Live National TV, let that sink in.
@j.a49234 жыл бұрын
He calls kawhai nmb2,but gets hurt being called 1.4 😂😂
@massacrewhite10 жыл бұрын
It's an unfair conversation, you got 2 idiots with ignorant views, yelling at Jalen. Jalen needs to get more help, get Lebron and Dwight.
@javiercastillo75163 жыл бұрын
Momas cooking is correct.
@ka76654 жыл бұрын
This was prime first take! Damn I would rather watch hours of debates like this than 5 minutes of the overused Lebron vs Jordan GOAT topic. And the moderator was hella good as well! Sooooo much better than Molly
@TADAConsultingandManagement3 жыл бұрын
The fact that dude said Bosh Spice going into commercial break was unnecessary. How you tell The truth but it's a little but of the truth
@cheapsuit43855 жыл бұрын
This is great but Jalen is right lol but I love how they're all being men about it and being professional with their disagreement lol good stuff.
@FCKURFCE7 жыл бұрын
these comments and name calling is shown all over the world to millions and millions ..that negative energy falls on the ears of many people who are impressionable..that's why we have so many people talking crap about the game they know nothing of..
@schuylersavage2765 жыл бұрын
Great comment
@KenSherman Жыл бұрын
I agree with the song before commercial break (2:53) - "It's Tricky". 😂
@kobe420854 жыл бұрын
Skip - "I come from a tough neighborhood myself" lolololololololol