Jalen, Skip, and Stephen A. debate media criticism Pt.5 of 5

Jalen Rose, Skip Bayless, and Stephen A. Smith debate media criticism, and reactions from athletes Part 5 of 5 on 4/11/2012

[@zenithnadir9385]

Jalen goes for SAS's jugular with the "louder, more adverse" comment

[@cedrickphillips5248]

All of this cause Skip got put in his place

[@AntiSocail214TEXAS]

No its cause a white man named skip went to cry to the executives that his feeling were hurt.

[@chrismathgenius]

@@AntiSocail214TEXAS What does his race have to do with this?

[@Iloveswedes]

He hurt white feelings, so we have to make sure to waste oodles of air time defending and wiping his butt, afterwards.

[@reginaldpeters5142]

@@chrismathgenius exactly his race shouldn't be a issue

[@michaelwhitfield2303]

Yes I admit

[@chucky116]

Water pistol Pete is what started this whole thang🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@mistersayles6699]

....wrong....Skip referring to Chris Bosh as Bosh Spice because of his ineffectiveness is what started it

[@marcusjones9441]

@@mistersayles6699 no you are wrong

[@normanhargrove128]

I’m glad it did 😂

[@chucky116]

@@mistersayles6699 I was talking about how defensive skip got and how it was clear he got his feelings hurt when someone brought up his greatness as a basketball player since he loves talking so much shit about professionals

[@calvinjeter7224]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂too funny!!!

[@josephhumphrey2061]

Ahhhh...I just heard Jalen say, "Got to give the people what they want!" His catch phrase on his current show.

[@mell6481]

I did too lol

[@teknique8292]

You can give the people what they want without calling people names...I know that’s what he would say lol personally I don’t mind when bad or lazy players get bad mouthed

[@coachmotton]

They need to do a throwback on this one

[@eddyrock8136]

Got to give the people give the people what they waaaaaaaaaant

[@kokolatte825]

@@teknique8292 absolutely they deserve to be critiqued. I think when it gets to the point of just trying to build a career off of tearing people down in general, it's wack. It doesn't even offer anything to the audience except to hear some crazed lunatic raising his voice and being negative.

[@charliewels89]

Damm Jalen the man he made them look bad

[@mattclark6465]

Dude wtf no he didn't. He dodged Stephen A the whole time cause he thought he had a better shot at skip. Stephen A never said disrespecting players is right. He may do it but he doesn't agree with it. The only person that Jaylen could beat was skip because skip was directly being caught being a hypocrite about people getting their feelings hurt. And Jaylen made SURE to stay on that watered down topic that he already won instead of battling SAS. He even starts talking about shit skip had a problem with but SAS didnt. Jaylen didnt even no who FUCKING said wat he just wanted to argue the SAME point he kept making to skip. All these people saying jaylen won are just copying wat every comment are saying in these comments. But yall all are wrong. Jaylen didnt win and dodged SAS until SAS was frustrated. It was that bad. Smfh yall clones

[@fuckyoupayme8709]

Matt Clark u sound foolish n dumb for writing dat bullshit Harry Potter book u just wrote jalen won this argument easy u see he’s only one calm n collective not catching feelings Lyk sas skip n YOU lol

[@ericcunningham9776]

Fuck you Pay me that wasn’t funny unfunny ass nigga

[@TheAnti888]

Don’t do drugs

[@KNByam]

@@mattclark6465 He did.

[@jonathanmarable4258]

What planet would fans trust media over players? GTFOH!!!

[@ericcunningham9776]

Jonathan Marable Earth

[@TheAnti888]

Eric Cunningham I’m sayin

[@jemarwilliams9609]

@@ericcunningham9776 not in 2020s

[@dodgerkid05]

I'd believe everything the late Joe Morgan, Harold Reynolds, and Peter Gammos reported......I will NEVER EVER compare them to SAS or Skip though.

[@MICHAEL_MAY8]

Skip FINALLY got a taste of his own medicine and his massive ego can't take it! 😂😂😂

[@jay3414]

Jalen was talking directly to SAS & Skip when he said being loud trying to stand out

[@abdulmah72]

Jalen's point is simple. Just report the facts based on what you see. But to call someone out their name is totally unprofessional.

[@joegiants4219]

And it’s wrong, if you are making millions of dollars the reports have fair game to give you names as long as it’s accurate and doesn’t involve their outside life

[@Jason-id3yp]

@@joegiants4219 How is it professional to call someone a name that isn't their given name? It is childish and pathetic. You can say that they aren't performing as well as they can but there are other factors that you have to consider. I don't care how much someone makes, it doesn't give you the right to make call them a name that you think is appropriate. It's crazy that people actually think name calling is ok. If we were in middle school and immature, I would agree with you but I assume most of us are adults. You can criticize someone without calling them a name, or maybe they lack the ability to keep it professional. Now, if a player is acting like a child, you can say they are acting like a child without calling them a child. It's not a difficult thing to understand or do.

[@joegiants4219]

Jason McClellan so how come people are advocating so much for name calling of athletes but it’s ok for Trump to name call his opponents and vice versa. You should be just offended by that but you aren’t

[@Jason-id3yp]

@@joegiants4219 That's a strange assumption. I don't like Trump, I have never liked Trump and I would never support him. It's very strange that you think someone is a Trump supporter based on one reply on KZbin. How would you even could to that conclusion? People are strange, they like to feel better or more powerful by making fun of people.

[@joegiants4219]

Jason McClellan ever heard or the term “vice versa” you should look it up and reread what my message. I never said you liked Trump so please stop trying find something to get offended by

[@AsavageEP]

Impressive how SAS and Skip went out of their way to tell the tales of how "awesome" they are in their own heads.

[@Eagles2020]

Jalen is 100% right about this. Skip gets mad about Jalen calling him out about his high school career, but Skip continues to call Chris Bosh "Bosh Spice". Jalen didn't even lie about Skip high school stats hypocrisy.

[@arizonaFIREent]

Jrose is a complete idiot

[@paystyles5429]

Skip mad blacks makin more than is sorry ass did

[@joveson003]

Sorry Jalen is 100% WRONG

[@richlo4652]

Jesse Oveson 100% right

[@eightysbaby8798]

These replies are dumb asfuuuu. The original comment is rite.

[@Aaronlydell]

Stephen A and Skip B want to talk about everything except for the point that it is disrespectful to call a Man out of his name. The funny thing is that Jalen never disagreed with any of their points as they shifted away from the point to tell their stories in their futile attempts to justify their existence. They both kept getting their feeling hurt and Jalen just sat there calmly and detroyed both of them.

[@springer1696]

I always liked jalen rose as a commentator. I have more respect for him now for telling the journalist that what they do is disrespectful and is not journalism.

[@PolaOpposite]

Stephen A. Smith is verbose. He clearly ad libs most of what he says. Jalen Rose wins this argument because his argument is simple. Respect people. That doesn't mean you can't criticize players, but a real journalist should maintain a professional tone. Skip and Smith don't always do that.

[@stack5960]

real talk

[@ryantaylor3729]

That's it

[@TheKingofKings2272]

False Stephen A tones down when talking directly to players but Skip always has the same tone. I still agree with Stephen A though 100%

[@keithwojciechowski3121]

Jalen keeps changing the subject and not answering questions directly. He didn’t win any argument

[@jimmieleepatterson]

@@keithwojciechowski3121 you're right about Jalen but he wins cuz Skip and Stephen A. are hypocrites. Jalen isn't as polished as those 2 so his examples are flaky but Stephen A. was changing the subject too. They lose cuz they're reporting is nothing more than barbershop talk. Stephen A. reporting sounds like gossiping and Skip opines on games that he saw on television

[@dalecono]

It's HILARIOUS to see how butt hurt Stephen A and Joker get all upset when people "disrespect" journalism but calling Chris Bosh "Bosh Spice" is still ok because he played soft in their opinion… These two are garbage and they should be ashamed of themselves for how they do what they do...

[@dalecono]

tkane000 drug cartels are also top 500 corporations in the world as well,..i guess they shouldn't apologize either huh? Just because he has thw highest ratings doesn't mean he's worth a damn...in Tijuana Mexico one of the biggest attractions is a show where a woman fucks a horse...now unless you're gonna sit here and tell me that a woman fucking a horse is informative and teaches sex education a woman fucking a horse is a woman fucking a horse... I guess you just love junk food for the brain...

[@AsavageEP]

tkane000 He's pretty far from the pinnacle...

[@squirt0007dc]

But Stephen a did get a d1 basketball scholarship. He has some credibility.

[@lilchappa9209]

Fair

[@useyourimagination5475]

And here we are seven years later and the argument is still the same! Only now they getting a little bit of #mommascooking 😂

[@massacrewhite]

Jalen is a class act. I support every point he made.

[@gnixon3085]

are yall not watching what im watching lol this man jalen keeps interrupting also

[@_Mailman]

You owe the ATHLETES everything Stephen A. Without THEM, you would not be doing what you are doing

[@dunc1652]

Exactly

[@anthonybabiasz2011]

True, but the reporters also keep the interest of a lot of fans, and without the fans, the athletes talents on the field have no value

[@_Mailman]

@@anthonybabiasz2011 I don't know any sports fans who would rather listen to him than watch an actual game

[@matthewstein3600]

That's the whole point

[@SilentKingEmissary]

U sound like an idiot it’s an exchange not a one way street

[@chizobell3529]

Jalen is 100% right!!!

[@sweetmusic846]

Jalen is 100Percent WRONG. These are professional athletes. Pros. Feelings hurt??? Chizo Bell go read the constitution .. we have a god damn red white and blue right to offend.. Jalen has a problem with social media now too???? He's a bitch.. A bitch with a 5th graders vocabulary and pronunciation skills

[@theguy8665]

Agreed 👍🏾

[@theguy8665]

@@sweetmusic846 How the hell is he wrong to ask that RESPECT is given when speaking on someone?? It doesn't matter how much the person makes, or the person questioning makes? The key word here is RESPECT!! All the other personal sh*t that you may feel, is just that..Personal sh*t, and when you start DISRESPECTING people, no matter what their profession, you NEED to be f*ckin' CHECKED, period.

[@aaronwade1940]

@@sweetmusic846 Your wrong. Jalen is on point throughout this debate.

[@mlelo7]

“What’s right isn’t always popular. What’s popular isn’t always right.” - Howard Cosell

[@BoldenFMA]

They tried to line Jalen up lol.. they still didn't address any of his points. All this because skip got G-Checked smh lol. SAS mad because his points are falling short lmao 🤣... "waaaaaah!! Jalen won't listen.. its okay.. i'm done" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@seanswinton6242]

Jalen Rose nailed Stephen A. Smith! Beat SA at his own game. Checkmate!! He gave the people what they want! As an aside, any relation to the legendary cornetist King of New Orleans Ragtime Charles "Buddy" Bolden? Just curious?

[@robertbennett5547]

@@seanswinton6242 yes he mentioned it on his show.

[@mademan_7624]

Stephan A. Smith and Skip a Bayless are both caricatures of themselves at this point. Skip like a sports Howard Stern. He just says anything to get a reaction.

[@racheedbey6754]

Jalen is the people's champ. We love you and thank you for speaking truth.

[@justsaying4488]

SAS takes 20mins to make a point and goes on tangents and wonders why people get inpatient.

[@garrity18]

*notice how reporters are offended...

[@devotion1100]

Jalen Rose Is More Intelligent Than Skip & Stephen . . . . On This Matter of "Conduct"

[@kojoosei7795]

SAS never called Shawn Bradley, Adam Morrison , Brian Scalabrine a bust

[@TheONE-kq3mm]

No Sir because management is not having that. His Zaddy won’t allow that !

[@Ishmaelgaynor]

So true

[@williefaulker]

Tbf Brian wasn't picked high so he shouldn't be on this list but I agree with the other 2 . Don't forget Darko and jimmer either

[@billyjack95]

Rasho Nesterovic and Sledvenko are white players he would make fun of all time. If anything he race baits too often against white people.

[@Kdawg24NCAA]

this is the realest take ive ever seen. i wish first take/undisputed would talk about this topic more often

[@pinkandred]

I'm sorry for those of you that didn't realize what really happened here. Jalen killed em. Jalen outsmarted them at every turn and he won period.

[@CraziBigShow]

Christopher Hulsey given how many ppl liked ur comment i doubt theres to many nay sayers that dont agree with u to start with ..

[@MrKiwahh]

You people can say whatchu want but Jalen Rose is 100% correct in every aspect. He's saying that name calling and making fun is not an aspiration. They cross the line and epitomize what you shouldn't do on a global spectrum, which encourages the way people treat each other today. Watching Skip and Stephen A. Make me not want to pursue an athletic career at a professional level. Knowing that no matter what I do and what I prove they'll open up hate among all medias. Can't stand what they're saying, hypocritical and BLASPHEMY.

[@Solomonreborn]

I completely agree. It's one thing to analyze , however what is going on now is straight bullying. The irony you can't say the F word or the N word but you can basically call somebody "soft" "weak" or "stink" without repercussions.If I don't like somebody's sexual practices that they choose to advertise , I'm homophobic and discriminatory, however if someone doesn't like the way an athlete plays, it' fair game.

[@boriswoodberry1341]

What's really sad is that there is a market for such behavior,these people are just following the dollar, feeding the beast.

[@heygringo7]

Jalen IS right. It used to be if you cant do it better yourself, then dont criticize. It is not quite this way now. Nevertheless, analysts and show hosts should be allowed to matter-of-factly dissect an athlete's skills, but the moment they make it personal with name-calling and trash-talking, then they have crossed the line.

[@sha9infinite450]

indeed. media as stars is how it is now days. example, I liked shows like the Tim mccarver show, where it was enjoyable without all the extra. news is like that with the hannitys and bill O'Reillys, trying to be "louder" than the next.

[@Solomonreborn]

This is an excellent point. There is no respect for time and effort even the "worst" player on a team has put in to get to the pros. It's disrespectful and I don't like it. I love the NFL Network for this reason. If Deion Sanders says something critical he has every right to. Even in his critiquing, he is not rude or condescending.

[@kudabeen]

Clown couldn't hear about the difference in building up the sport vs tearing down players to entertain and pump your own brand.

[@jay3414]

I didn't see Skip in The Last Dance Docu Series, but he was in every locker room, game etc

[@ohiomadejay]

Even if he was mf was important he was reporting to the players mfs wasn’t looking to go to him

[@kanguessokang9918]

I think Skip wanted Jalen to publicly apologize to him on the air, live on television and Jalen wasn’t having it, he stuck to his guns and stuck to his opinion and because of that Jalen was never invented back on the show

[@KCKickReviews]

I side with Jalen overall in this matter. When it comes to name calling and things of the sort, it's unnecessary and unprofessional. Unfortunately what has happened is that in this 24/7-365 news cycle the story extends much further than between the lines of play. Skip stated that he decided to do studio because he felt his objectivity was being compromised by being ingratiated with the players. And that's fine. But you can't remove yourself from the players and then psychoanalyze them and judge their character on a daily basis as Skip does. And I like Skip, he's cool with me, but that's the truth. I have more respect for Stephen A because he at least is around a lot of the players he talks about on a more personal level. But what I never liked and was highlighted in this entire episode was the double standard that there is with athletes and media and fans. Anybody who has dedicated their life to any craft should have the accepted right to respond to any criticism they receive if they don't agree. At the least respond. But when an athlete responds the public (media/fans) counter with "You should be above that" "This is beneath you". Why? We're all people. Because a person makes money they don't have the right to respond without criticism? I don't get it. And I know some people may not care, but I thought Skip was ridiculously disrespectful to Chris Bosh. To have the audacity to say "I'll continue to call you Bosh Spice until you play up to your potential" had me dumbfounded. Utter disrespect. He came on the show, respectfully told him how it was disrespectful and offensive yet Skip pretty much "Fuck you, prove me wrong". IMO and the opinion of many, comparing a man to a woman, which Skip is doing when he says that, his a high offense amongst men. And in a professional realm, it's unacceptable because it puts Bosh in a lose/lose situation. It's not like Bosh can take care of him like they're on the streets. And Skip's smugness like he's some master or overseer above human decency in the matter was appalling. I thought we live in a world when something is offensive to someone and their family we discontinue to do that. But Skip in my opinion had that white supremacy come out with how he spoke to Bosh. "Listen Boy, I'ma call you what I want until I see fit to stop. F*** your feelings. I'll be the judge". But anyways, save the disrespect for the barbershop and around the way. That's not necessary for ESPN or any major sports outlet. If a player isn't playing up to their potential, that's an indictment on the AS WELL as the scouts and Front Offices that evaluated and paid these guys. Don't get mad when athletes get upset but the minute someone criticizes anything a media person does they get super defensive.

[@simoncampusano1015]

Right on.

[@Mishad8]

But all players trash talk on the court. So basically it's ok for players to talk trash and stuff and it not get blown up. But not journalist ? Jalen did say that he was a trash talker, and I'm guessing that was for the 10 years or so he played in the league. I don't see the difference.

[@jaminwong9755]

KCKickReviews way too long of an explanation.

[@georgeham5411]

Mr. Jamerson

[@spencerparker4381]

Mr. Jamerson they’re not speaking on a media platform to the public. They’re in a competitive setting. Completely different. What happens on the court tends to stay on the court

[@raymondrojo1627]

Steven a Smith thinks he has an obligation to insult or belittle t h y athlete performance

[@streetking9772]

Skip is such a drama queen. "Near-death experiences" Really?!!

[@fiaestebanlara6092]

Yee

[@michaelgonzales8807]

Jalen is right

[@Reel___]

nah

[@xotoviobell8025]

I think Jalen's point overall point was that the line between journalism and the TMZ like stuff that ESPN does has blurred. Some of the personalities in all forms of media are trying to be like the celebrities that they cover, yet want to be respected as serious journalists. The more attention they bring to themselves, the more it helps their brands. The media covers for their peers but will come down on a former athlete that they perceive as doing the same.

[@kimjong-un2502]

JALEN IS GOOD HEART. SKIP IS SENSITIVE

[@kevinwoods327]

More sensitive to what others say to him than what he says which is the job

[@curmidgeon8]

Whats your dude rodman saying about this tho?

[@PurpleLighters]

If emperor Kim is calling you sensitive, there's something there

[@33eazy]

Having a debate with Stephen A. Smith is like trying to trying to fight a boulder.

[@nubesock5231]

Yeah it would seem that way, debating when you're obviously wrong probably would be a tough task.

[@melvinmorgain3876]

Jalen rite

[@A_Fool]

A loud Boulder lol

[@Thedub2]

sas you don't have a show with out the athletes

[@dcouncil6985]

Skip, called out stephen a smith for being friendly, the whole show Stephen A Smith was trying to take up for Skip Bayless.

[@donovansalessr.8205]

Jalen OWNED skip & stephen a.

[@curtis2609]

3:33 still true till this day.... SAS and skip are still doing this lmao

[@tri-cityhightlightheros887]

Still to this Day!! Now they got few other platforms to continue this Trend. Now it their Bread & Butter. The culture of TV NOW Social Media.

[@theintellectualstew]

Skip missed every point based on a mindset that leads him to believe that his double standard is okay.

[@RG-rj4sp]

This is why it is written in the contracts of athletes to deal with the media. They would not if they had a choice.

[@jazzy_8468]

Exactly! Look at what's going on with Kyrie Irving as well as Naomi Osaka. The originator of screw the media is Marshawn Lynch. The media has been on b.s. but in recent years, people are finally beginning to see it!

[@LaVerite124]

All Love? Jalen wasn't invited back until Skip Left. Also hasn't been brought on All the Smoke either? 🤔 He definitely not now. Like Jalen said, it aged well for him. ✊🏾

[@bobbylowe6806]

Jalen Rose's right, anyone can be a journalist not everyone can be a professional athlete

[@fleecejohnson5750]

Absolutely!

[@lindas1st]

Bravo Jalen !!!!

[@minafrunza8019]

Watching in 2019.My point is this: in this life, there are a few people who can do something out of ordinary - and many more others who talk about it and make a living out of this talking. An old proverb - the dogs barks while the caravan is passing by. Love the arguments and the composure of Jalen Rose.

[@SeanE2daJ1]

6 years later and still Jalen Rose is right!

[@pistolpete3199]

9 years later... Jalen still right

[@ahmirnasir5684]

10 years later…. Lol

[@hushup8692]

These were the golden days of first take. Love these clips

[@alsafah3459]

thanks for the upload!

[@aharonbenyisrael8387]

Jalen won this debate hands down!

[@IronMan_thno]

Jalen Rose us 100% right. Criticize the players game, not his manhood or character. Disrespect to a persons life is not what the report is supposed to be about. Media its reality TV now. If they report Bosh played soft, why not say Jason Collins played gay??? Its not inaccurate

[@DaNewWaveLee]

thanks for the upload

[@tahmid11k91]

Manchester City vs West Broom , the headline in the beginning, I will never forget that match

[@mictza450]

If they were to be honest about it Skippy and Stephen are there for personalities much more so than their sports knowledge. ESPN knew that a loud and extra Stephen A. and overly critical Skippy would sell. Because when you really listen to either of them analyze any game they sound like a casual fan.

[@PurpleLighters]

Fun Fact: Journalism and sensationalism used to be two different things

[@wrekk]

Stephen A sure loves the word "plethora"...

[@MrEnjproductions]

Keep holding your own Jalen don't let them over talk you.

[@Bamelong1990]

Everything Jalen is saying is completely true, Stephen A Smith is the most ignorant disrespectful reporter there is and im glad someone called him out on it, he thinks he can say whatever he wants about anyone because the camera is protecting him I can guarantee he wouldnt take this tone on this street with these athletes because he would get hurt

[@markquieshill7867]

Jalen jus spoke facts...some reporters help advance the sport some take away from the sport(skip,Steven a)

[@Ianjz100]

Im still wondering what that song was at 9:58

[@a93456358]

This was the best Debate I never saw live . I truly side with the Journalist . This is also entertainment for me just like the game. In this media age with the internet I watch more sports shows than actual games.

[@bornleada1]

JALEN ROSE IS SENSITIVE AS FUCK......

[@timlenord1]

If you ask the viewing public who they trust? They would trust us before the athletes. -Stephen A (pre mama's cooking)

[@lance.da.legend9837]

This is when sports became more about drama and less about the actual game

[@EbonySeraphim]

Jalen’s point isn’t what everyone else on the show sloppily interpreted it to be. He is making too fine of a distinction that the others can’t make. The use of qualifying negative names (“name callling”) is beyond their professional. A person can have an epically terrible game, but to call them “trash” in a general sense is a a problem. It’s a hair away from saying “they played like trash” but the Skips and Stepehen As run their mouths so loudly and constantly they don’t ever see it. Calling the player trash in a general sense requires far more than the observations they just made, and beyond that it’s them just letting their lips flop

[@mrgeeda5432]

Stephen A is dramatic, emotional, disrespectful and hypocritical on many levels

[@nickh1201]

Skip has a false perception about reality. Whenever he interviews any athlete following a challenge all it does is validate him irrespective of what was even said!

[@kefkapalazzo1]

@11:55 skip makes an extremely profound point without even realizing it. thats the problem with news especially when it comes to politics. people want access so they go soft sometimes theres an incentive to not criticize. .

[@Sebadiah23]

kefkapalazzo1 Jalen had already made that point

[@charalamposlazoglou7658]

I was to write a comment but Jalen has covered everything. Overall, it's about the sport guys. Reporters should stop trying to sell themselves imo.

[@khenryking1091]

Skiuup was oned over and over again! Imagine him getting hurt when Jalen asked him about his HS BB career. But he do it pretty much 24/7 specially with LeBRON.

[@hsAdaeDlivE]

I'll sum up Jalen Rose's argument and it 's "Do as i say, not as i do."

[@corneljackson2317]

SAS.... I hear you. Your problem lies with the truth. Make sure you know what you're talking about before using said information. Your credibility depends on it.!

[@jeffreytollerson5725]

Skip and Stephen A are full of it Jaylen is talking the real. Skip makes up names for athletes but when Jalen makes up a name for him which was totally accurate he gets upset and says Jalen crossed the line give me a break water Pistol Pete!

[@mictza450]

Its crazy that Skippy legit got mad. That fool always gives athletes some wack name to criticize them.

[@biloxielizabeth6291]

From the time Stephen A started talking on this segment (pt5 of 5) up to the 335 mark, is probably some of the best talking he's EVER done. It wasn't rehearsed or thought about a couple of hours or days before the broadcast. This was said right off the top of his head, and quite frankly, it was not only brilliant, but 100% spot on. One of the points I agree with most is, in a discussion with an analyst who's never played and an athlete turned analyst, especially an athlete that's relatively new, I'm going to trust the analyst knowing there's no bias involved.

[@xkjroc]

"Near death experience???" Sure bud

[@diamonddee178]

You gotta catch Stephens face when Skip says it...

[@362mediagroup7]

An athletes opinion will always be more important than a journalist 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@nicobloffer]

thank you!!

[@miatodd3236]

Jalen swallowed all of them without even having to tell lol wow!!

[@nickh1201]

Jalen brings more perspective and value than those other 3 goofs combined

[@kadbaryhardwell5338]

The machine knows how to clean an image it makes money through. But Mr rose is a very different asset. Revolutionary person. They have a potential great leader confined to the rhealm of games

[@virgilwimberly2071]

Jalen is amazing because he keeps it real, and played well at the highest level, these others can't say that.

[@mvb84]

They owe their job to the game and the players... Those screaming and ranting Stephen and Skip are just puppets of the public. Populism is the first word that comes to mind. Gues a large part of people in the States find this amusing and rather be amused than to be informed. Name calling is disrespectfull and they are bad rolemodels. I wouldn't want to watch and listen to these arogant loudmouths and am amazed that they get the platform and ratings they do.

[@stevekimbrough6366]

Stephen A. Is wrong , I would trust an athlete before a journalist due to the fact athletes play the game and experience injuries @ the same time ⏲️. Stephen A. Only talks about what he hears not what he sees.

[@Alta626]

Im talking about making it as professional Athletes not Journalist, I mean they work at Espn and for an inspiring sports writer, journalist/Broadcaster ESPN is the NBA of Journalism but I was talking about their careers as basketball player's/Athletes

[@alvincoleman4614]

Those are some crazy looking ☁s in SAS's background

[@Thedub2]

jalen rose is correct anybody can be a reporter if u have a camera, paper, computer an audience that they r targeting also things hav changed sas.

[@JaiCoupe]

2:30 Did Stephen A. say that you have to have a car in your radio? How does that work? lol

[@kadeemthomas6]

Great dialog✊🏾

[@kadbaryhardwell5338]

Thank you

[@awboyle]

the clouds never moved...

[@christopherc7855]

valid points by both side but when an athlete makes as much money as they do, people are going to be overly critical. I think jalen is being a little sensitive. You grew up in detroit jalen, you were called a lot worse before you were getting paid. They make millions of dollars by playing sports, I think they can handle criticisms

[@DominicanSheik]

they should be able to take criticism, Jalen has gone soft. "talking from a players perspective" stfu.

[@ImPapehungry]

That Don’t mean they deserve to be disrespected so stfu

[@NBA3245890]

I agree with all of jalens points except for when he says that anyone with a phone is a reporter. Yes print media is basically dead but being a reporter (at least a good reporter) requires you to articulate yourself and be quick thinking at the same time while being able to ask good questions which is something that most people cant do.

[@darve17]

I agree with that. Which is why I still have a wait and see point of view. Fact is that as a talent we've probably never seen a collection of skill sets that he has. He just needs to develpment a mental toughness and he'll be truly unstopable. He will go down as one of the all time greats, easily, where he ranks though will depend on what he does in the playoffs

[@DALykes]

Jalen Rose was real everything he said on this part of this show was valid

[@joe62591]

you see, its business. stephen a was correct, his audience is the public. if they didnt have this argument. u think us as the audience would pay so much attention to this????? its all marketing. when ur playing decent. nobody cares, but when u play like a scrub. they call u out. nicknames are part of the marketing. sadly, the public likes it!!!!!!!dont u see Jay was talking the twitter world is paying attention???

[@ericgelmete277]

Love that Jalen put Skip in his place

[@khaliwalker6158]

2:30 Stehen A said you have to have a car in your radio 🤣😂🤣