James and Camille of Sailing Vessel Triteia Talk About Surprise Costs of Hauling Out

[@ProspectingMonkey]

Thank for being such an honest person about pricing information and your bills! Alot of channels don't go into depth like you have!

[@DM-ve8vb]

My dad told me 50 years ago, “Well, you get what you pay for!”. I didn’t understand him then but I do now. btw I just signed up to be a patron. Your videos are worth a lot to me. My goal is to have a boat someday and your channel is really good at conveying what it is like to deal with the inevitable surprises.

[@Creek-Critter]

Guy’s keep on keeping on, you’re doing good.

[@alanluscombe8a553]

He is not with that woman anymore

[@oaklandmax]

You've done a great job of sourcing as much of the parts as you could on your own over time, doing the labor yourself where possible, and planning the work. Cost overruns suck, but I think you have done as much as anyone could to contain them. A while from now you'll still have a great boat, and the overage will be long forgotten.

[@tartansailor]

BOAT, Bring On Another Thousand, cheers, Richard

[@SailorJames]

No Doubt !

[@gmoose777]

Another great video James, budget over-runs of 30% are normal on any project on anything. Don't feel bad the pain today pays back at the next 5 or six haulouts by bringing the old girl up to modern standard future replacements and repairs will be cheaper and easier, some things are worth doing properly

[@SailorJames]

Totally !

[@FatherGixxer]

Owning a boat seems like owning a motorcycle and doing upgrades and mods, then wrecking lol.. i feel it

[@justlooking2222]

Good talk ! You are replacing systems that sink lots of boats. Work those seacocks often so they don't corrode up on ya. Close them if not needed when you leave the boat will make you work them often. As money allows use the best hose and clamps going forward. Buy once cry once.

[@SailorJames]

Yeah I keep them all off when we aren't at the boat and turn them often. All the hose is the best for each application as well with two hose clamps per hose fitting below the waterline

[@chriscowlard2153]

So pleased for you that you have found a yard that has such fair prices, and are being so good to you with helping you all they can. I would be unlikely to find a yard in the UK that would deal with me like that. It is so difficult to keep a boat going on a limited budget. Good luck to you both, enjoy your life, if only I could have done that when I was younger.

[@SailorJames]

Yeah we LOVE that yard and hope to send lots of business their way with our videos

[@mbranniff875]

Nice shot of you two sitting with Steady. Right away I thought there's three of a kind that will beat a full house. Best regards.

[@SailorJames]

HAHAHA

[@randywarren6925]

Once again people are helping you do it right the first time. Yes it's more expensive BUT in the long run your saving time and money. Not to mention meeting some good hearted people with your best interest in mind. Blessings 😇.

[@SailorJames]

For sure! No regrets here!

[@SeabreezeRJ]

WORTH IT. I was on a '73 A30 and the shaft was punched out when we hit some submerged telephone pole or railroad tie, had to go back to the pit for an emergency haulout with a coupla gallons per hour inflow! You guys rock, and I'm happy to see that the boat is getting the love it deserves! Your cruising days ahead will be less stressed for this refit. GREAT CHANNEL! (Took that boat from NYC to Bermuda that fall!) Fair winds. ~__/)__*

[@SailorJames]

When all was said and done we couldn’t be happier with our time there and how everything worked out !

[@petergeen2198]

That’s what I say to my wife as well ‘That stuff will never have to be touched again’ 😂 the joys of owning a boat....

[@SailorJames]

😂😂😂

[@sailingdreams7699]

In the old days the old packing was rope with grease and you could grease this packing bearing and then by twisting the whole bearing with the bushing it would squeeze the rope and keep the water from coming in.

[@MarkusKraemer]

Omg I feel your pain, I just get my boat ready to sail south…for another refit stage. To expensive here in the north east of the USA

[@guyfox68]

There are always surprise cost when dealing with a boat. On the up side you will know what your boat is made of and what is new.

[@SailorJames]

Yeah after all was said and done (and finally paid for) I was very happy with how we did everything !

[@hotdogger420]

Sometimes you just need to pay someone to pull your shaft

[@SailorJames]

😂😂😂

[@Escapetosea]

Lol! Made my morning 😆

[@OldBoldGuy]

It sounds like the boat yard treated you very well and charged very reasonable rates for the work that they did! The old axiom is again proved true, you never have the time or money to do it right, you always have the time or money to do it over again!! I'm kinda surprised that your diatribe wasn't more upbeat, you got a lot done for your money, hopefully when you gain some sort of windfall in the future, you'll treat the boatyard guys to a gift certificate for a lunch or something:)

[@SailorJames]

I was overwhelmed with stress and the dread of not knowing how it would actually all play out, I have nothing but love for that boatyard and how well they treated us and will be applying things I learned there for the rest of my days!

[@theislandpackrat]

I find most people always want new stuff, I have put used thru hulls on a few of my boats that people have taken off because someone said to replace them after five years. I've talked to many sailors and fisherman that have 20-30 years on there thru hulls! If you keep them oiled they won't corrode that bad and every time you haul to paint, then smear grease inside them and open and close a bunch use water proof grease. As far as your rigging I can't see it but just because they say change every ten years thats because they want your money! My last boat was a 76 and has the same rigging it came with. The other thing I don't know how many youtube video's you follow but I follow most and unbelievable how often people get a different boat. If you've heard of two-foot-ilitas. You'll see that bigger boat and bam your starting over. I'm 68 and just got a 53' spencer! But it's good your doing it right so you Don't have to do it again. Take care!

[@SailorJames]

Yeah I am pretty sure our rigging is from the late 70s at the moment

[@edwinharvie6174]

James - Sorry there’s so much to R&R your running gear, but they seem to be treating you very fairly (compared to East coast prices!). As you say this will be the last time you’ll have to worry about this ultra critical part of your boat and it’s SO worth the investment. Yall continue to impress with your thoroughness and competence. It’ll be ready before you know it!

[@SailorJames]

Yeah this is why we made the trip up to Ventura! very grateful that I had a friend who had been there a lot and who I trust encourage me to make the trip. SO WORTH IT

[@johngalt5887]

Hi James, I read somewhere in one of the classic plastic blogs that the caulk blob was put there by Whitby during original manufacture. I think it is mentioned in the classic plastic forum.

[@johngalt5887]

Yes, I checked and it's called Thiokol and it was installed around the stern tube area by the manufacturer. The plasticclassic forum has additional info if you search for "stern tube replacement." Literally I stumbled across this yesterday. I have a '66 Pearson Triton and wonder if it has this as well? Will check.

[@SailorJames]

OH MAN that is hilarious!!! thanks for letting us know!

[@jerrylynch5611]

I know cost overruns suck balls, but you guys are so lucky to live where you do, here in New Zealand, everything is probably three times those prices and wages are fairly comparable with yours.. economies of scale of course, your yard sounds great!

[@SailorJames]

We are VERY lucky in that aspect, Also here in California we have a lot of access to anything you can really imagine so that helps a lot as well.

[@sailingdreams7699]

If anybody has that problem again go to the race boat people the drag boat they've been doing that for a long time we've always had that problems and they got different bearings now for those shelves they're not really even bearings or bushings but ask the drag boat people they have the answer.

[@mauriciogonzalez1689]

I am so glad I do my own work

[@edwiser3547]

There is an object lesson here for all boaters, but especially sailboaters. Waterfront is expensive. Boatyards are dangerous environments with lots of chemical and other hazards. Cost of running a safe boatyard is high. Fact is, in most areas the landowner is better off developing the property for other purposes or selling to a developer as happens often during every building boom. My point is that dealing with people on a tight budget is bad for business. Your poverty is not the boatyard's problem. Boatyards are usually a low margin enterprise already. That is why there are fewer yards than twenty years ago and far, far fewer that are DIY. Sailboaters are especially tight and can be tough to do business with. That is why there are relatively few sailboat brokers and only a handful of sailboat builders. I say this as a man who has been in the recreational boat business for forty years. And I have owned many sailboats and rehabbed quite a few. I have been on both sides of the equation so I know how tough things are on the yard's side and never moan about billing. I do complain about quality though, as yards often let unskilled personnel do skilled tasks. They will take the guy who scrapes the bottom and rolls on bottom paint and let him install a distribution panel.

[@johnshields6852]

Props cut through the water in varying ways, depends on the speed, the depth, with that small engine and relatively slow spin rate its not going to be a huge difference.

[@phillipobrien7365]

If you work out the cost, versus how long the repairs or improvements last, it`s not bad value. Just hurts when you have to initially pay it.

[@SailorJames]

I think what we paid for the custom part and experience was worth soooo much more!

[@stevepegg2269]

Glass in a fiberglass stern tube and use a dripless.

[@CadohaAdventures]

We hauled our boat out for 'two weeks' back in November.............. It's still on the hard 😂😏

[@SailorJames]

Oh Lord, I read that comment out loud to Camille and she said OHHHH NOOOOO , what a nightmare...!

[@CadohaAdventures]

@@SailorJames Three things happened, firstly the weather was insanely bad, just gale after gale after gale, then there was a bit more that needed doing than we realised, then just as we were closing in on finishing (finally) the pandemic hit 😔 First wold problems I guess, plenty have it worse off so shouldn't grumble.

[@paulhudson4481]

That’s seems a bargain a lot cheaper than in Australia !

[@rthorsen711]

I've watched a bunch of your videos this was one of my favorites. You are a great team (Steady too) and really compliment each other in dealing with these challenges. Keep up the great work !

[@AdurianJ]

As Winston Churchill said. "Once ships fall into dockyard hands a hundred needs manifest themselves"

[@SailorJames]

Very true

[@highwaystar8310]

9 minutes into the video I noticed a dog knocked out next to Camille!

[@SailorJames]

Haha yeah he was passed out hard

[@kz4506]

That’s cheep , you did not have to pay weekly rent as being ashore , live free anywhere this boat thing costs money remember the boat is yours old , never had a renovation to modernise it nor much money thrown at it so it will cost you , my boat resto was 130,000 but every thing was done so there no issues when hail out needs to happen so spend ther money do it right get your boat up to scratch fare winds

[@SpyridonMouroutsos]

:)

[@nomad8685]

she never deserved you . she is acting strange. good luck and kind seas

[@davidholdman8015]

Awesome 😎

[@SailorJames]

🤙

[@sadidiker]

🖒🖒😙😙

[@johnshields6852]

A boat is a hole in the water in which one pours money.

[@danknox9986]

It is a lot but sounds like you are getting more than you money’s worth.

[@SailorJames]

So much more than my money’s worth!!!

[@edwiser3547]

lol. C'mon man. You must have more than 1800 in ink on your arms.

[@SailorJames]

Yeah and guess what I didn’t pay for my tattoos all at once either, the great majority of my tattoos were done as trades for fabrication and website design. Not sure why so many people in KZbin think that’s a logical conclusion to come to because I have tattoos I don’t get to be concerned about my haul out costing $3200, zero logic there