James O'Brien doesn't get why Keir Starmer is pretending immigration is 'bad' | LBC

[@johanleclerc8899]

Foreign skilled worker perspective here: I am about the type of immigrant you describe (and I say am an immigrant, not an expat as they are the same thing) oversized fiscal contribution (just the visa fees and NHS surcharge make me go beyond the AVG British adult). I thing the point you miss is the perception that people have of the UK immigration system: They don't realise how complex and expensive it is for immigrants to get the right to live and work in the UK. (I'm only doing it because of my British wife). When I tell people how much I struggled, the costs, the wrong advice from the home office., etc. They cannot believe it. And what they don't realise either is that when the government tries to reduce the number of immigrants, it is going after people like me, by doubling income threshold, increasing charges, etc. Because the levers to reduce our numbers are very obvious and simple. Not like the ones for illegal immigration or refugees, which are much more complex. So when they reduce immigration overall they actually disproportionately reduce the positive economic impacts of migration because they go after the people who contribute the most. It's like shooting yourself in the foot but with one foot above the other so the bullet goes through both feet.

[@davidhoyles8595]

are you a moldovan bricklayer?

[@legendaryjonblue]

Are you an Uber driver?

[@guacamolewindow448]

It's insane the amount of hoops you have to jump through; it's also insane how little knowledge people have of any of it. To exacerbate things further, you're relentlessly vilified by certain corners of the media who shamelessly propagate narratives built on things that simply aren't true. As a born and bred UK national, I can only apologise for the amount of hatred presently coursing through the veins of this society we share. You also raise a very pertinent point about the drive to tackle immigration targeting entirely the wrong people.

[@davidhoyles8595]

@@guacamolewindow448 are you a presenter on lbc?

[@RobertThomson-y4m]

So, did 900000 dentists, Doctors and nurses arrive last year? Is that the argument?

[@pleasepermitmetospeakohgre1504]

Yes, how could we be so blind? 🤣

[@karenrock3864]

You are unaware of just how bad our multiple industries are suffering from labour shortages. Companies are going to Nigeria and Philippines and others to actively recruit care staff so care homes can stay open. Many refugees from war zones do go into medical training,or engineering because those are essential skills for return when possible.

[@RandyAbbott-i5j]

Don't let the oligarchs take your country.

[@DiogoSalazar]

You will need a time machine for that

[@Estelle-bd4qd]

Doctors , scientists and engineers coming over everyday soon we will have too many skilled overseas workers

[@stuc3195]

Another 1,000 of them just arrived this week. Hospitals must be full now surely

[@ibexdnb2879]

😂😂😂 I can't believe how lucky we are.

[@robertcottam8824]

Hmm. Some of ‘em may be qualified to instruct your (extant) great-grandchildren in the rudiments of syntax. ❤️ I think I love you, cherub. 🙏

[@karenrock3864]

Legislation needed to criminalise politicians presenting false information to the electorate. Preferably include newspaper editors too

[@50ismjazz]

You should not have joined in with the smears against Corbyn. It would have been so diffrent.

[@gerryrr93]

Mad how all of europe is wrong and James is right

[@BSTJUNKIE-qs1ii]

😂😂😂😂

[@davidvaughan7877]

LOL Its a first for him to say current migration is unsustainable.

[@gordonstrong5232]

@@gerryrr93 Oh look everyone, the spokesman for all of Europe is here.

[@timstoddard3707]

All Right-Wing Parties in Europe are wrong and everyone else is right.

[@gerryrr93]

@gordonstrong5232 if you need me, you know where i am

[@adamcoward11]

For the statistic to be at all relevant you have to know the report's definition of "skilled worker". If it only includes highly paid professionals then it's stating the obvious. I wish journalists would dig a little deeper when dispensing such statistics.

[@davidvaughan7877]

LBC is a far left media outlet as GB news is a far right.Neither are interested in giving a balanced view.

[@stevepi1]

Agreed. The only comparison to make would be to 'skilled native worker' and even that wouldn't add anything meaningful to the conversation.

[@iamthenomad2k]

I'm a skilled English worker who is currently economically inactive and living on benefits as I go through chemotherapy and try to survive my potentially life ending cancer. The treatment is 90% administered by immigrant nurses, whom I'm very grateful for

[@lynnelowery8435]

Why did they call it Summer of riots? It was a week.

[@stevenpyne1994]

That's about right for the length of a British "summer"!

[@brianferguson7840]

British summer = 7 to 9 days😂

[@karenrock3864]

I only heard it called the Farage riots

[@ftftyffghfvghfcht6701]

it was a weekend

[@ryanhlfc]

He’s trying to appeal to reform voters obviously

[@MarkStringman]

Have U got enough room in house to take illegal immigrants?

[@twisteddancer7773]

​​@@MarkStringmanO Brien has enough money How many has he took in.

[@steven161183]

Same as linekar 😂

[@ryanhlfc]

@@MarkStringman ye lad my uni accommodation is full of room 🤡

[@gordonstrong5232]

​@@MarkStringman I wonder how many people who complain about potholes have grabbed a wheelbarrow full of mastic asphalt and fixed them themselves? I wonder how many people who complain about staffing levels at their local hospital have put on a pair of latex gloves and voluntarily administered a round of bed-baths? I'd assume not many. It's almost as if it's not the responsibility of individual private citizens to take on the obligations of governments, isn't it?

[@chatham43]

What part of controlled immigration does James have a problem with?

[@moomin7461]

None.

[@MarkStringman]

James would like open borders

[@Afrocyber2010]

None. He has a problem with people who took a over lands many many years ago by force and now are complaining when others also come here.

[@gailrobson4566]

Wonder how many of these people that want open boards have opened their homes up to them 🤔

[@evolassunglasses4673]

He wants the 1% to suppress pay and conditions with waves of cheap labour

[@RobertThomson-y4m]

Farage can just sit tight and he'll be PM, at this rate.

[@pigchamp3627]

Got my vote

[@eurasia1963]

"Freezing this Christmas ",download it,get it to number one

[@andyjordan79]

They'll be banning the charts next

[@ecknareal]

Immigrants in, nationals out. lets gooo

[@Charlespabs]

Sounds very colonial. I thought the ‘correct opinion’ was to be against that sort of thing 🤔

[@Cooki3Munster]

what a sad bunch of Reform and Conservative trolls now responding to LBC vids whilst ignoring they put the UK in the mess

[@massriccio7718]

Vote reform

[@MatthewHess-b3k]

People are hip to the uniparty system and will protest with reform, now continue going through your stages of grief in the comments

[@ibexdnb2879]

Nice assumption you made there, Cooki. 😂

[@jamjam2833]

Cool story

[@lindaramage69]

All started by Teflon Tony opening our borders!

[@akwamarsunzal]

O'Brien's monologues are often rambling and full of out of context stats but this one is confused and rather nonsensical. I guess he hasn't listened to the Labour leadership declaring that immigtation target is 2.5 millon, that they are going to build 1.5 million homes yet, as Rayner has recently said there is no housing crisis in the UK!

[@ibexdnb2879]

James ignores anything he can't berate people on. It truly is his ego talking at this point. He pretends to be righteous, but really, he just wants to bash somebody, so he is right. His book says it all about who he is.

[@justinconnolly66]

Any news on the important court case today?

[@ibexdnb2879]

Of course, not James was wrong about that. He only cares about being right and righteous.

[@Cosmoscosmos1]

You live in a lovely ,cushioned ,moral world o,brien don’t you!

[@davidvaughan7877]

Maybe he should refrain as a plumber and become useful instead of peddling division

[@crncrn6370]

What area do you live?

[@HarryNottings]

Down with moral worlds I guess?

[@ibexdnb2879]

​@HarryNottings Point is James is as bad as the people he claims are the 'baddies'

[@Skidddersss]

Labour isn't working

[@scottweir6846]

Reform won’t work either

[@thomaswhitehead5496]

Still not heard anyone talk about how many companies are outsourcing their work abroad. It's really ramped up in the tech sector since covid.

[@toshtosh9482]

We had a chance for change in 2017 but such as JOB did not want a government that would have sorted out the issue being discussed.

[@robert_bah]

Immigration needs to be brought under control. Too much burden on infrastructure. A nation needs to build its country and infrastructure by mobilising its own population. It just needs a bit of thought and planning. Not brining out blunt arguments in favour of or against immigration

[@ibexdnb2879]

I know. Remember when we had to stay home to protect the NHS? I guess that doesn't apply to immigration on a scale never seen before. 😂

[@Kwippy]

Thought and planning huh. Go ask school leavers who among them want to be a nurse on the NHS, or work in care homes.

[@assses-3216]

Read the report, because even this description by James has left out important context within the figures. He is referring to a graph so it will be easy to see the data missing in this discription.

[@garyh183]

And James has the cheek to call others grifters. Before labour got in he was literally criticising the conservatives for not getting immigration under control.

[@patricklarocque1550]

Canadian over here… Am I right to say that this Labour government is not panning out as hoped? The previous Tory stint was a dumpster fire, but it seems like this Labour government is roasting marshmallows on it…

[@thomaswikstrand8397]

It's panning out as expected, really. It's the Blairite, neoliberal, right wing labour party this.

[@PLl-jr8xi]

😂😂😂 pretty much bang on mate. I wouldn't take any notice of James, he speaks for about 0.1% of England. Although he's managed to get us to Brexit, get Boris to become PM, Nigel Farage an MP, make reform popular and was in melt down because trump won.. basically whatever he says the opposite is gonna happen.

[@drummingtildeath]

Labour are doing fine. All the whining is coming from tory and reform voters who are having trouble accepting they lost.

[@PLl-jr8xi]

Labour are not doing fine at all. Completely corrupt.. taking donations while calling out the Tories, they're all the same and Raynor sounds as thick as muck

[@joskowal3711]

@@drummingtildeath I agree but I'll change my tune if they botch the NHS and defense reforms in the spring.

[@jmw-qt2ih]

Why in the interests of fairness dont channels like this one balance things out and highlight the negatives of immigration instead of just the positives then perhaps the people on opposite sides might discuss the pros and cons of it rather than just insulting each other and that includes the presenters as well because they can also be very insulting towards people

[@ibexdnb2879]

And there you have it. James O'Brien and any news outlets are really in the business of division. James is ruled by his ego. He must always be right, hence why he never debates any other top-tier debaters. He only cares about having the moral high ground. This much is true by observation. His book tells all. P.S. I agree with you with all my being.

[@brettyates7054]

It’s a perspective thing, you’ll hear them rage against ‘populists’ like Farage… but the opposite of populism is elitism, and from that perspective you don’t need to understand you just need to accept that what’s being done is what’s best for you (as determined by the elite - elitism).

[@nicholashanson9508]

the first time i heard james speak i found him abrasive but quite intimidating in an argument. now i realise he's just a sophist. it's really quite sad. he's a middle-aged man who will intentionally lie because he has a pathological need to always win an argument

[@PLl-jr8xi]

Can you imagine being around him .. he must just turn everything into and argument that like you said. He wants to win .

[@nigelsynnott7344]

Care to provide an example of him lying intentionally?

[@emilymccartney1593]

Is James in the room with us right now?

[@stevepi1]

@nigelsynnott7344 Yep . OB said Farage relied upon Tate for information. In fact Farage explicitly said he didn't believe Tate.

[@dufud]

@nigelsynnott7344yeah he lied about illegals in four star hotels. And many other things . And in-fact he has ninety something ofcom complaints against him for lying.

[@Mightyflynn77]

Who is saying they dont want skilled foreigners?

[@IamNotanumber-z3j]

So what’s the difference between an expat and an immigrant.

[@lasttempoinparis]

Hum ... subtle. I would say, you're an expat if you're still paid for living abroad ( _ex a Export Manager, a Finance Specialist, Corporate or Merger Lawyer ect_ ). If not, I think Expat is a derogatory term in public. Gives the notion you would rather be back there than here, translate the feeling that you still don't know if it was your own finite choice to live in another Country and many other intuitive negative vibes. If you were the son or daughter of a foreign parent you would never say : - " _oh, I speak a second language because my mom is an expat_ ". You would rather be encouraged to say : - " _my mom was born in .... she is ..., she taught me my second language_ " Just saying.

[@jonnylee1985]

Sorry O'Brien but this js EXACTLY what you wanted. Youre getting what you wanted. Arent you happy?

[@dolmen6613]

true

[@nickmarshall9192]

Get out in the real world James and see how many "skilled workers" are coming And then talk to a British skilled worker about the new person from overseas coming to do his job cheaper

[@django3422]

Which skilled jobs are unskilled migrant workers taking?

[@paulhinchley3383]

Do you really have to ask why unsustainable immigration is bad ? Come on !🤦

[@Refflog]

How many skilled compared to dossers and those who pay zero tax but earn James. Once again totally naive

[@archvaldor]

Most of them thickie Express reader.

[@dolmen6613]

James - can you name just one country in your precious EU that isn't introducing controls on immigration that would make any Brexiteer proud?

[@sjewitt22]

You got any examples?

[@dolmen6613]

@@sjewitt22 - Holland , Austria , Italy , Germany , Hungary, Poland

[@jonahspiper]

I’m a skilled worker from the UK now overseas. Blair didn’t want us…. and the younger generation want tic toc. That’s why you can’t build houses, drive trucks or fit a plug lol 😂

[@CEO786]

It’s very unlikely you’re a skilled worker but glad that you’ve left. You’ve got a very weak understanding of the issues faced by the UK. We have too many corrupt individuals in every sector.

[@ibexdnb2879]

​@CEO786 Wow. There is no need for your hate. You know nothing of Johan....

[@jonahspiper]

@@CEO786 I learned my craft as a master builder, I have built my own beach hotel, from plans to finish here in Thailand. If building houses is not a skill tell me what is and why the UK can’t build any?

[@eddiecalderone]

@@jonahspiper Your comment seems to me to be an honest one. I don’t think you’re making it up just for the sake of it. It’s not that the U.K. can’t build any housing, for God’s sake, it’s just recently in the past 3 decades that the proverbial hit the fan. Reasons- 1. An unprecedented population explosion thanks to uncontrolled immigration which the U.K. government did not expect, did underestimate and actively encouraged for the sake of gdp statistics. So this created a huge housing crisis. 2. A numerous and preposterous amount of rules & regulations that hindered residential development, housing planning and permits. 3. Everything cost more times as much to build anything in the U.K. than most other places in continental Europe, definitely 4-5 times as much as it costs in Thailand. 4. The NIMBY stance. As in not in my backyard refusing any construction work near one’s own property

[@massriccio7718]

Nigel is right

[@karenrock3864]

Nigel Planer?

[@MyraRobertson-l8c]

What about the unskilled asylum seekers against the skilled British worker. It’s easy to skew the figures to your favour?

[@alexcampbell-black8543]

Low skilled immigration is damaging the economy according to the OBR, high skill or even average skill immigration is a net benefit. This is ignoring the cultural impact

[@GRIMVEL]

What’s the cultural impact?

[@jacky5768]

@@GRIMVEL imagine eating foreign food, driving a foreign car, watching foreign tv shows on a foreign tv drinking a foreign beer and then crying over cultural impact 😂 that Alex guy isn't the brightest spark

[@alexcampbell-black8543]

@@GRIMVEL I think it's quite subjective, some people seem to like cultural diversity and some don't

[@cup1966wow]

@@jacky5768 None of that are really big impacts on culture are they though. I have never been to Thailand and went well it has USA culture now because it has a McDonalds. Have you been to USA, it feels culturally different to UK, you been to different European countries they also all feel culturally different, despite all having all those things you mentioned above. To reduce culture to those things you mentioned is nonsense and you know it.

[@clearspira]

No if's, no buts, Reform's success or failure over the next five years depends on what Labour does with immigration. We saw what happened in America when the Dem's stuck their fingers in their ears and it'll happen here.

[@marty1459]

They could get rid of all the immigrants tomorrow and you'd just start crying about something else mate.

[@joskowal3711]

It's forecasted to drop to pre-Brexit levels, as long as they better optimise it in the national interest it's illegal immigration that they'd need to get a hand on. In any case I disagree, it's the state of the NHS that will decide 2029-- if the NHS project appears to be a failure/unworkable then pro-privatisation Reform UK will have an open path.

[@arthurdent182]

The Democrats were hard in immigration. That's why they put forward the border bill that the Republicans shot down.

[@HarryNottings]

Lol we all know if immigration dropped Farage would just find a new group of people to hate and his fan club would fall in line.

[@HarryNottings]

Like you won't just find a new target to hate

[@julian987r4]

James, if 60 million immigrants were allowed in, at what point do you stop saying ‘we need an honest conversation’ and just accept there is a tipping point. And stop conflating immigration with illegal immigration. James, when’s your wedding day with Kier?

[@ForgedPlanetTV]

Isn't he critical of Kier in this?

[@jacky5768]

what if 500,000,000 million came in! or a space ship arrived with 6,000,000,000 arrived.....if,if,if....

[@assses-3216]

But that's almost the population of the UK mate, no one is suggesting that. Not even the most liberal politicians. He did not discuss some other key data points which was disappointing, but he wasn't exactly singing Kier's praises

[@HarryNottings]

Ironic considering there's been a coordinated effort from the right to conflate legal immigration with illegal. How many times do we have to hear about boats and hotels?

[@assses-3216]

@HarryNottings 'I took my dog with me to the beach the other day. He wouldn't come back in from the sea, he wouldn't listen to be. I said 'be careful you'll end up in one of them boats'' I am surprised this women is trusted to cut hair.

[@steven161183]

This is our country and we shouldn't have to put up with this immigrant nonsense if we dont want to. So theres that.

[@emilymccartney1593]

You taking your Country back? 😂

[@Kwippy]

Right you are. That's why we voted Brexit knowing full well it would ruin the economy and scupper the NHS. Immigrants out at any cost!

[@GGM250F]

Whenever I feel tired of listening to intelligent people, I turn on a James O'Brien vid. He never disappoints.

[@MrRailjunkie]

Judging by that comment you never listen to intelligent people.

[@rebeccamartin411]

"Germany lost WW2 fascism won it" George Carlin was a prophet

[@CaptainNorthernMan]

Every time this guy speaks just shows how detached he is from true day to day reality. Clearly missing the point as always.

[@mike-A299]

And I suppose you know it all then?

[@ibexdnb2879]

He lives in an upper classwhite suburb. He knows zero of the common mans plight.

[@PaulDyas-y9h]

Nigel lives rent free in james head

[@Stoic_Crusader]

Let's start publishing which specific nations from overseas. Let's not pretend that the socio-economic impact of a Swiss migrant is the same as one from Somalia.

[@Theboxingobserver]

Where did you get that stat? Nothing online?

[@Dynasty1818]

James is the biggest liar on LBC.

[@emilymccartney1593]

@@Dynasty1818 You should phone in and tell him.

[@mrfrisky6501]

So how many is too many people in the UK? Can we take an other 10 milion...or 50 million or shall we say 500 million then take a view on it?

[@robert_bah]

Japan seems to get by with 120M

[@mrfrisky6501]

@robert_bah but famously Japan have next to 0% immigration ......certainly not 10 million in the past 20 years....

[@robert_bah]

@mrfrisky6501 recent events suggest that political parties that bang on about immigration all the time have demonstrably been very poor at controlling it. I'd rather have a party that focuses on the solutions, and if immigration is a subset of the push factors on our quality of life, then I'll entrust the party to solve the problem. It would be foolish to follow the white noise.

[@knutsfordhouse]

Thanks James, listening to this has reassured me that I am sane. I have so many people around me who have been labour bashing from day one, and I keep saying you must give them a chance, it is too early to call it as to whether their policies will succeed, and at least they're not stealing our tax money for phony PPI contracts. I agree entirely on thecquestion of immigration, it needs proper control and public re-education. We've already seen many effects of the 'what happens if people stop coming' in the disappearance of trained medical staff to the lack of agricultural workers. Birth rates are going down whilst people are living longer in old age. Countries will soon be competing for fit & able immigrants to join their work forces, and Britain will be the last place they want to come.

[@DMFPERFORMANCE]

The population will vote and show you what they want very soon in the local and national elections.

[@nigelsynnott7344]

2029 is not very soon for national elections.

[@stevepi1]

The will of the voter has already been shown through previous elections. 2016 referendum and 2019 GE. They were ignored and therefore the turnouts since have dropped and apathy risen. Now the momentum is with reform UK.

[@markabrahams2191]

Except that labour are proposing cancelling the next local elections . Can't honestly think why

[@HarryNottings]

​@@stevepi1How were they ignored? You got Brexit and you got Boris Johnson, you can't blame us because they were both disasters

[@stevepi1]

@HarryNottings The immigration numbers went up when they repeatedly voted for lower numbers.

[@andyv123]

You really want intellectual honesty with politics, but UK will never get it.

[@SandraSeed]

I'm wondering whether O'Brien and Farage are actually in cahoots and this is one big cover up as he's so obsessed, jealous and frankly ridiculous. Would be a genius move. Surely this guy can't be serious with these comments.

[@margueritehann-syme5137]

The annual SIZE of immigration intake into many countries, not just the UK, is massively challenging the capacity to cope with providing all social needs for all civilians. Populations are being played with by the media and certain others to say the issue is racism. It's cruel and unnecessary. The issue for all these governments is not stopping immigration outright.

[@ibexdnb2879]

Precisely. But James only cares about the moral high ground. This has been clear for years now.

[@gherkamum]

James we do at some stage need help from abroad, but we must vet them first.....this is the main problem.

[@joskowal3711]

They are vetted... Every refugee gets logged into the system and has their background checked. Same with visa applicants.

[@CaptainNorthernMan]

@@joskowal3711 not they don’t. Pure lie.

[@CaptainNorthernMan]

@@joskowal3711 if you don’t think that there are people running around the UK that the government don’t know about then You’re just as deluded as James living in this other reality he talks about.

[@joskowal3711]

@@CaptainNorthernMan You're misinformed. Asylum seekers can ofcourse give a false name. The vast majority of the undocumented population is people who have overstayed their visas-- the government therefore knows who they are but it's a tracking nightmare.

[@joskowal3711]

@@CaptainNorthernMan And even those pepole have still been subjected to background checks when they first entered.

[@markedwards9247]

I could share my house with one 'skilled worker' and make a bit on the side. I could share my house with 20 'skilled workers' and make a fortune. Am I missing something ?

[@pthomas2335]

Can we get someone else for the 10 to 1pm slot please.....so tiresome, smug and sanctimonious

[@BarryDiegoLondon-cy9ij]

Tune in for the 7-10 sloth.

[@pthomas2335]

@BarryDiegoLondon-cy9ij I will 👍 thanks

[@Viewpoint91]

There is something sickly and patronising about Obrien. He also treats anyone who dares disagree with him as idiots.

[@MrRailjunkie]

If you want a right-wing echo chamber which I suspect you do then listen to Talk TV.

[@stevepi1]

Farage explicitly stated that he didn't believe Tate so to characterise that as "as the man who Farage relied upon for information" is disingenuous.

[@HarryNottings]

Then why did he spread the same misinformation?

[@stevepi1]

@HarryNottings He explicitly and repeatedly asked for the reliable, credible information from the authorities. Being aware of rumours and unsubstantiated claims and reporting of their existence (and adding that he didn't believe any of it) is not 'spreading misinformation' as you imply.

[@HarryNottings]

@@stevepi1 You know the police don't release information about their investigations just because random internet con artists ask them to right?

[@ibexdnb2879]

​@HarryNottings Genuine question... What was it that Tatesaid that Farage regurgitated?

[@twisteddancer7773]

So Starmers Labour refuses to give the waspi women the money they're entitled to and take the winter fuel allowance off pensioners in this country. While giving billions of our money to other countries. Hope whoever voted labour are proud of themselves now

[@MickSeddon]

Stop it. The Tory party put up the retirement age. And they have had 14years to pay out. Get a grip

[@mclark1515]

What’s the other parties policies on the waspi women?

[@twisteddancer7773]

@MickSeddon Yes the uni parties are to blame

[@twisteddancer7773]

@@mclark1515 My point being Both of these parties don't care about our own people. But they care about other countries people

[@bigprob8744]

​@@MickSeddonyou have to understand its just tribal politics with alot of these folk and a very selective outrage.

[@django3422]

Because he wants to appeal to right-wing voters. Because he's a right-leaning neoliberal.

[@davidwestwater2219]

Not all cultures are the same james

[@akwamarsunzal]

These skilled immigrants who are contributing 20x a Brit, are they not going to use the NHS? At retirement age, are they going to leave the UK or will they stick around to collect their pension?

[@assses-3216]

People have to pay a surcharge to get access to the NHS. The report clearly shows contributions vs costs. Fact is it takes about 50000k (from their data) for people under 19... then they become marginal net contributors. The fact is, people making those contributions are wealthier individuals due to their jobs/skills, so they may use the NHS but probably have contributed a significant amount to the costs incurred. Or like many wealthier people, they may use private healthcare. But no one in the UK ever suggests a UK born person in need should not have access to healthcare. I'd imagine the state pension will be abolished by the time millennials get there, but even so, better paid jobs give individuals opportunities to get build better pensions. So perhaps they will still be net contributors for much of their retirement too,

[@evolassunglasses4673]

GDP per cap/ head is DOWN. No system will invest in training, robotics or increase pay and conditions if it can just fly in labour. Its a race to the bottom

[@evolassunglasses4673]

This is OUR ANCESTRAL HOMELAND not an economic zone open to the World

[@MichaelReaddin]

@@evolassunglasses4673 There is a minimum wage you know? Blame the employers who choose to employ workers for less than a minimum wage, not those that need it. It is a race to the bottom, but for different reasons than you think.

[@AlinaMihai-yr8cu]

If they contributed to it, why should they not use it? Idiotic comment.

[@wiseget-f7e]

It is important when travelling through Europe to tell people there that Brexit was thought up in London, proposed, negotiated and instigated there.

[@emilymccartney1593]

You on overtime Bot?

[@gordonmackenzie4512]

I’m that guy you describe sometimes. Retired early, plays golf, does DIY and doesn’t want to work.

[@PLl-jr8xi]

They're just jealous of people like you, and it's sad.

[@Avi0097]

Why not just open up all borders worldwide, get rid of passports and have a single global currency?

[@Avi0097]

I am serious btw. Yes I am naive but IDC.

[@TNT-1313]

The only thing worse than a liar is a liar that's also a hypocrite! Tennessee Williams

[@twiggy99]

All for immigration as and where the country needs it. Hospitality, farms, NHS all spring to mind. However, the governments own figures predict a net migration over the next 10 years of 3.5million people (350,000 a year). I don't understand why people aren't talking about this its always ignored but that means we need to build a city the size of Birmingham in the next 10years just to house these people (assuming the average household size of 2.4 people). It's just practically impossible to build a city of that size in 10years to house these people and no one is talking about it.

[@evolassunglasses4673]

Immigration is capitalism importing an OVER SUPPLY of labour in, which is a race to the bottom particularly for the working class. Oligarchs love immigration. Capitalism will never invest in training, robotics or increase pay and conditions if it can just fly in labour. Back in the day the Left understood this, even Bernie Sanders was anti immigration. GDP per cap/ head is DOWN

[@evolassunglasses4673]

GDP per cap/ head is DOWN over the high immigration period

[@richardlabeja]

Child birth rates are below required amounts to sustain a capitalist society.

[@amyalexis7328]

The birth rates are lowering, ppl are dying younger... if they don't come who else is gunna fill the gaps?

[@tompearce3610]

That's the problem, we need an honest discussion about what the country needs. Splitting out foreign students that bring in billions, medics that we can't do without, etc. Need to discuss how much more taxes rise for UK nationals if we lose the economic benefit of immigration. How much more tax you have to pay personally for every 100,000 fewer immigrant workers might focus the mind.

[@edwardfitzgerald3877]

Wow! This might be the first time in James O'Brien's adult life that he has uttered anything ever so slightly critical of Keir Starmer.

[@jonathanboam5409]

It really isn't. He's been critical of Starmer. It's not James' fault if fourteen years of chaotic Tory rule has given him far more to work with.

[@Michael-yq2ut]

Lol are you surprised by starmers stance on immigration

[@djart4866]

Inflation rises again to 2.6%

[@houseguest4534]

James is honestly the worst broadcaster on LBC and the perfect example of what's wrong with the UK actually he really shouldn't be allowed to spread his nonsense on the radio at all!!!!

[@MarkStringman]

If I was Nigel farage I be sued James o woke for farage riot's

[@dannyquinn9128]

Allowed*.

[@houseguest4534]

@@dannyquinn9128 ❤️

[@localshaman]

Because hes's as much a right wing politician as anyone in the Tories who's suckered in liberals by presenting RW policy as "Sensible centrism"

[@pkia898]

Because James it is.

[@lasttempoinparis]

The British person living in Germany was right of course to call himself a migrant even if he fluently speaks German. "Expat" is a full mouth expression to make natives understand you are currently living in their Country which seems not even to be your second Country " _de coeur_ ".

[@GloriaHoulihan]

What skills do they have? Why do so many require interpretors at the job centre?

[@billyo54]

Starmers position on Israel is enough to let me know how wedded he is to the right wing charlatans

[@dannyquinn9128]

What should his policy on Isreal be?

[@mike-A299]

You can't win either way in this one, both sides are terrible to each other.

[@emilymccartney1593]

@@dannyquinn9128 He should be recognising Palestine as a state, and stop the sale of weapons to Israel.

[@kd-si5re]

Shortage of skilled labour... Maybe the solution would be to invest in skilling our young generation and not importing it then

[@assses-3216]

The english apprenticeship system is seriously flawed since the reforms from the tories in about 2017. It does favour younger people in terms of educational opportunity, but that is due to low pay conditions being acceptable. There are few employment protections in place, including allowing apprentices to be made redundant without the company being in financial difficulty. It's troublesome because it allows for exploitation of apprentices, for them just to be made redundant 2/3rds of the way in, with no qualifications to show for it. So yes, reforming skills training and possibly school funding models (ie ppl going to uni provide funding to the school), could help to create a more adaptive workforce. Or certainly create a generation which can begin careers and then decide later if they require/desire university.

[@brianferguson7840]

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make an English youth start working.

[@tompearce3610]

We don't have enough UK nationals to train. Many jobs take years before one is skilled e.g. medics for 7 years. What are we supposed to do for medics for 7 years?! If we discourage immigrant medics then it will make the NHS massively worse...

[@assses-3216]

@@tompearce3610 Tbf graduates can train in 4, but it takes ages to get 1 pipeline up and running at a university

[@Kwippy]

Brilliant idea. Go talk to school leavers now, see how many of them you can persuade to become a nurse or work in a care home.

[@peterdollins3610]

Look at the English Public the UK media and you will know why. .

[@wilko-e4j]

Skilled is the word...

[@jonahspiper]

Who repays the hotel bills? Those who need them on arrival or you already established? Glad I don’t pay sorry waste my money on UK tax now. Hello HMRC. 👋

[@markramsden5101]

Reform Reform Reform Reform Reform Reform Reform Reform Reform Reform Reform Reform Reform Reform Reform Reform Reform ❤❤❤❤❤

[@karlhal8165]

Pre haps if British people stop finding excuses not to work and it was harder to get benefits and also we having fewer births as cost of living is to high and people can’t afford to have two children or more as the women go back to work to help pay the bills

[@MarkStringman]

If there been working why do have to come cross are borders right way ?

[@gordonstrong5232]

@@MarkStringman Can we have that in English please?

[@jamessomers8955]

Any comment on the Waspi betrayal Jimmy.....I'm sure you would've had the blues been in charge.

[@assses-3216]

The video to the right (on LBC's all videos section) of this one mentions it

[@gordonstrong5232]

Tell me you post without thinking without telling me.

[@emilymccartney1593]

As if you’re interested in the Waspi campaign that’s being going for years. No support from the masses, but all of a sudden faux sympathy?

[@PaulSkeet-pm4uz]

Woke woke woke coming for you let's have a chat?

[@RussellBurgess-e9f]

This bloke 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

[@Bushwacker-mb6hw]

Propaganda

[@AEgonCholakian]

He talks like every subhuman coming by boats are a skilled worker and not a drain on the taxpayers.

[@emilymccartney1593]

Ok bot.

[@pigchamp3627]

He doesnt believe a word he says, if it affected him he'd change his tune

[@dddddbbb]

Immigration isn't bad IF WE HAVE ENOUGH PLACES TO LIVE. Until we sort out the housing crisis we simply don't practically have anywhere for more people to live.

[@stevenpyne1994]

And enough jobs for them!

[@timstoddard3707]

Too bad we have Tories blocking housing developments because of locations suddenly becoming "prime agricultural land".

[@tompearce3610]

The problem isn't a housing shortage caused by immigration that's just a cover for people that don't want immigration. Foreign workers contribute a lot more than UK workers and pay an NHS surcharge. We need more houses plus immigration. Cutting immigration will destroy our economy - we don't have enough UK nationals nor the skills. Imagine what losing 100,000 trained foreign medics would do, they aren't the ones using the NHS the most as they will be younger and healthier.

[@HarryNottings]

Sounds like the problem is landlords, not foreigners

[@pipins3616]

Mr Farage won’t have to work hard to become PM as Labour are basically handing it over on a plate th3 way they are performing

[@rulebritannia3147]

We all think its bad. Except for you

[@dogblessamerica]

Like Farage he would rather summon up the spectre of migration, than implement policies that significantly improve the lives of working people. Because the latter would involve raising taxes on the wealthy corporate interests that Labour are currently courting. If only we had recently had the opportunity of a Labour leader who would have taken us down a different path

[@prestigepea1235]

If only, I'm sure the mainstream media that James is part of would defend such a theoretical Labour leader rather than smear them....

[@TheGeneReyva]

Uncontrolled Immigration, what we had under the last lot and all they could say is "it would be worse under Labour" IS bad.

[@DaveZee823]

Blair opened the flood gates along with Merkel.

[@Pressure-xs6nq]

If you don’t like Starmer or the uk, then GET OUT!!! 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

[@brockit79]

We need to get Alistair Campbell on the airwaves more, I thought he was great on Question Time...he confidently explained why immigration is necessary.

[@jamjam2833]

Got hammered all night by Farage😂

[@brockit79]

@@jamjam2833 do you think? I don't, not at all... Farage seemed small fry inn comparison.

[@RobertThomson-y4m]

Campbell and his mate, Blair should be in the Hague.

[@philm7213]

James is so right, once again.

[@jamjam2833]

LOL

[@ibexdnb2879]

LOL

[@Charlespabs]

LOL

[@julian987r4]

But the definition of ‘skill’ is preposterous. The ability to drive (and not much else) should not be deemed a skill. Cleaning windows also. With such low rent skills deemed a rubber stamp to be in the country just pushes the wage opportunities down for native born workers.

[@assses-3216]

This is in the data, they highlight that social care is currently benefitting from the skilled worker visa's to fill shortages and discuss the wage inequality. But I doubt those who call for less immigration, and agree it should be stopped overall, would like to have only the very skilled individuals... As they'll see that through a lens of inequality too. It seems like the classic functionalist argument that if no one fills the gap, who is going to do that work. But since we've seen GDP per capita fall, it could potentially signal the government that it could aid investment in automation and mechanisation of certain industries. I know GDP isn't the best measure of overall conditions within a country. But it is what Labour have said they are interested in increasing.

[@MatthewHess-b3k]

You didnt get the email? Common sense is now 1+1=11 😂