Leg Motion Bass Drum Technique - James Payne

[@Ruben_Patricio]

Thanks for sharing this tips James. Very well detailed explanation !

[@ajmbcr8965]

I've been watching your vídeos to improve and solve some problems in my drumming and really your vídeos are making me change many mistakes I was doing. I wasn't improving bcause simply I was not doing things the right way. I am 52 years old and drumming is a childhood dream. I play drums for about 6 years only and have a band where we play rock pop, blues covers. Where I live in my town in Portugal-Europe I don't have music schools to help me in my drumming. So I check for vídeos on youtube. Thanks again for your help!!!! (JR-PORTUGAL)

[@JamesPayneDrums]

That's awesome to hear and I'm happy that my videos are helping! Hopefully one day I'll come to Portugal to do some clinics and we can meet and talk about drums in person!

[@ajmbcr8965]

OK James that's a deal! PLEASE, PLEASE, if you ever come to Portugal don't forget to tell me because, for me , it will be a life time oportunity to meet a drummer better skilled than me and just talk about drums. I do have some issues I would like to ask you and have your advice, but it will be better to ask you personally!!! So, if you ever come to Portugal tell me and you will be very welcome in my home, and you may stay here for a few days if you want and give me some live lessons!!!! THANKS!!!!

[@JamesPayneDrums]

Will do for sure José! :)

[@ashrasmun1]

NEVER GIVE UP DUDE ! :)

[@Lupine.]

You're both technical and precise. Sadly, I think you don't receive as much recognition as you should. Which is most likely because you're not playing direct-drive, longboard pedals. You demonstrate technique and hard work are what it takes to play correctly. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience!

[@JamesPayneDrums]

Thank you for the kind words man! Hopefully people will understand that is not the pedal, but how we use it! :)

[@billnipp2309]

dude plays so much he wore the knees out in his jeans.....

[@rjuriklodhbrok546]

One of the best videos on the subject I’ve found so far on yt!

[@francescorabitti4993]

Grazie per i tuoi video, trovo sempre la risposta ai pensieri che mi si presentano

[@tombeach1262]

Just started drumming to improve my rhythm skills and glad you showed how to use the whole leg. I was using my mainly using my foot and ankle, but had very little stamina. Now I have found a good method to improve speed and timing.

[@bhaveshsolanki6485]

Fantastic James, I like the way you demonstrate the motions on a single pedal only so we can see what techniques you are using.

[@JamesPayneDrums]

I'm glad you liked the video man!

[@markielinhart]

Thank you James, I’m working on it 👏🇦🇺✌️

[@lvkb4199]

Nice video, I learned a lot from it, thanks

[@user-tk7hp6bm4s]

I've always liked your videos There are also members who have joined you now But the leg movements always stay at 120bpm this frustrates me I want to ask James Do all movements originate from the hip flexors? When placing your legs on the pedals, should you try your best to relax so that the weight of your legs rests completely on the pedals? In addition, do my toes need to be pressed against the pedal when stepping on the pedal? Hope to get your answer You are a very good teacher!

[@user-0boi0boi]

How wide must be distance between knees when you playing DB?

[@44tank44]

I have the Speedcobras and I#m not able to do the exercise without Springs. The beater is buff right on the pad and stays there. Maybe the SC Beaters are to heavy ?

[@ShetlandTec]

Same here with a Yamaha dfp9500c

[@kidam2448]

Thank you!!!

[@athloen64]

So the tip of the foot is touching the pedal first when kicking and doing the impact for the hit? Or is it the heel?

[@DavidDorenfeld]

you're a great teacher and player. Thanks!

[@JamesPayneDrums]

David D glad you like what I’m doing David!

[@DavidDorenfeld]

@@JamesPayneDrums Welcome! I've been applying your basic concepts to other things I do like playing Golf and Guitar and it's honestly been helping a lot and has given me a whole new perspective. If I had a drumset at home and the money I would hire you as my teacher right away! Keep doing what you're doing, it's making a difference!

[@JamesPayneDrums]

That's awesome to hear! And I actually do the same, I apply these concepts to many things in my life and it's amazing how it actually works!

[@tojafato]

Thanks 🥁👍

[@maximomartinez6843]

thx bro

[@MetallicaRocksss]

How do I know when to use heel-up, heel, slide or swivel technique?

[@opseaing]

Thanks for your effort! Is the leg motion can be use with ankle motion simultaneously such like moeller technique?

[@samueldette6401]

I'm quite confused now about how to use my right leg (and possibly left when using the double pedal) and therefor I have some questions: - From which muscle exactly should the force of the leg come when I raise it? From the hip flexor? - I thought that "heel up" basically means, that you're always basically having the weight of the leg on front foot and pressing the beater against the drum head. Most other drummers show and explain it that way. Your "heel up" is actually a "heel down" just with the heel up right? - Isn't it pretty tensing for the shin, having the heel down when resting (in longer pauses between kick strokes) and raising the from foot?

[@wowdude22]

Great lesson! This is exactly what i need right now.

[@JamesPayneDrums]

Glad to hear that man!

[@nancywood2647]

Hi ilike your video but I need to know how to adjust my pedal so it doesn’t hit my foot. I believe it’s in the spring tension. Help needed

[@ryancrutchley4411]

try adjusting the beater angle

[@stinkbud2]

Hi James, It’s an absolute b&@£/@d for me to remove my springs on my pedal,is there anything else you could recommend? Many thanks and great video just discovered your channel,will start from scratch my double bass technique tomorrow,as I’ve been really struggling. I’ll let you kngw how it goes thanks again 🤘🤘

[@Alexdrummer09]

what to do when I start to get it? is there a continuation?

[@ShetlandTec]

Now see his heel up technique video

[@luchthrash82]

Hi James, is it normal to have pain in the tight when I practice this? Also the motion that I have to do without spring is quite different from the one when the spring is on: after the kick I can't completely relax my foot without spring as if I lie it on the pedal board the beater gets pushed again.

[@JamesPayneDrums]

Hey man, you shouldn't feel pain in the tight, that has something to do with the balance probably tho. And yes, when you practice without the spring is correct to raise your toes after the stroke not to choke the pedal against the pad. That creates some tension, but it's just to practice the motion correctly, when you play with the spring you can relax the foot after the stroke :)

[@fwojohalss2729]

James Payne i cant get e rebound of the beater without the spring, even with bouncy practice pad, seems like my pedal is too heavy so it chokes itself, could this be the problem?

[@Skhidnyaky]

Hi James. Today tried to practice this lesson according to PDF. At the 3d part (with springs) I try to relax as much as possible and have a problem that beater does additional stroke (that I can use as next upstroke, but undesirebale now when I play 8th downstrokes). What can you recommend for control pedal to avoid this spare stroke beeng relaxed at same time?

[@JamesPayneDrums]

If the stroke happens before the stroke you want to play, you have to lift the leg more without pressing so much on the pedal, if you have hard times doing this you have to check your balance too. If the stroke happens after the stroke you want to play, you have to control the foot by raising the toes a little bit after the foot lands, so that you stop the pedal from swinging. I hope this helps!

[@Skhidnyaky]

@@JamesPayneDrums , Thanks for answer. I mean spare strokes after the stroke I want to play. They often happen when I play 2-feet blast beat and I'm trying to clear them away. So your idea is to increase amplitude instead of tense feet after stroke. Good, I'll try your hint next week.

[@gilangzs1111]

it's Rolling Glide or Power Glide?

[@JamesPayneDrums]

Power Glide!

[@gilangzs1111]

thank you... !

[@jaketownsend267]

What bass drum pads are you using? I haven’t seen them with the foam that you use. Great videos!

[@JamesPayneDrums]

It's a small brand called Fame Drums. I found them in Germany while on tour, best pads I've ever had!

[@TAKU9740]

Jake Townsend p

[@skipernipper7773]

You are overly repetetive, but thank you for this leasson

[@lvvry1855]

Jeez, stop talking and just demo!

[@JamesPayneDrums]

If you don't have the patience to watch and LISTEN 15 minutes of explanations, then I don't think you'll ever have the patience to spend years practicing and mastering the art of drumming, or anything else really... good luck and sorry if I explained and gave free information too much!

[@viktorbjornstad_drums2nd440]

James Payne I enjoy your lessons but I agree with him that some of them can be a lot of talking. It can be a little boring to listen for 15 minutes. Especially for younger drummers. You give good information but some of the videos you just can’t watch it all. :) Good work tho!

[@kierenhutchison_drums]

Yeah these guys are indeed idiots. Your explanations are extremely helpful.

[@BurrenSHdrums]

You're such a big, great, awesome moron

[@stalliec]

@@JamesPayneDrums Could not agree more. Well said.