Why Primus 2.0 is The Best Car Wash In The Industry!

In this one we discuss why Primus 2.0 is the goat of all the soaps!
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[@ChemX]

Nice rundown Jaime. One side note on my Stars+Stripes, being two step soaps one is used over the other, when they mix the vehicle see a pH of roughly 7-8, using a pH test strip on the surface of the vehicle should reflect that.

[@JamieTheCleaner]

@@ChemX ah definitely makes sense thanks for chiming in!

[@ShineYourLightDetailing]

Educating the masses on caustic sodas…. Love it, hope you keep doing more of it as a lot of people could benefit from what they normally don’t hear about.

[@1stfrompuertorico568]

That's correct!

[@yanniobkirk5744]

Only helps people if the information is correct. Look at the SDS for Primus 2.0. It has all the regular caustic ingredients.

[@clints8888]

so what are you saying?

[@wutangcorpdotcom]

This is why I love Bilt Hamber products because not only do they not contain any caustic soda but they’re also anti corrosion…amazing!

[@JamieTheCleaner]

Ima have to check em out

[@vasts1479]

I have used primus (not primus 2.0), it's a good product but Bilt Hamber touchless is better. Basically Bilt Hamber is an excellent brand. Surfex hd is one of the best APC on the market,if not the best. Great prices as well if you live in the UK, in the rest of Europe not so much.

[@FurryMLG]

I still love my Dark Fury though. It IS paint safe. I used it to blast off 8 years of caked on dirt and tree sap on a Ford F-150 work truck. Truck looked amazing afterward.

[@jefferrrson1x]

Also, I really appreciate you commenting back to your supporters. Real dope man. Many creators feel too big headed and don’t show love back. Much respect.

[@JamieTheCleaner]

We are all here to help each other grow, I ain’t that smart I’ll take any help I can get 👍🤣

[@chrisbradley3224]

@@JamieTheCleaner Most smart people don’t think they are smart. That statement bodes well lol.

[@masanta]

Primus is awesome. Great video. I'm more in awe that you were brave enough to prespray the whole car with idrosave.

[@JamieTheCleaner]

🤣

[@devonthetrain12]

I loooove those Labo bottles too 👍🏼🔥 one of the most goated brands in the industry 🙌🏼

[@leeweber7]

Love this video -- was using Bilt Hamber for years. Last week my source was out of my usual but they recommended P 2.0. I thought “what the heck…I’ll give it a try.” Used it 2 times and will tell you it is FANTASTIC. Incredible product. My cars ceramic shine pops and the pre wash / touch less effects are second to none.

[@miscellaneous5215]

as good as Touch Less or Autofoam?

[@thesamsquatch5224]

The crocks and socks are the way to go 💪💪💪 Eddie got you on the Labo train and its taking over the swamp. An excellent video! Good to see a one two punch and the haymaker take it home. 🔥🔥🔥

[@debtennis1301]

Great info! Safer chemicals that still clean are a win for sure. Primus smells fantastic too! I was worried with Idro since it was in full sun and it spotted like crazy for me, so glad to see you brought it inside!

[@markhanson1009]

Let's pave that driveway!

[@jeffc6832]

I just used BH Touch-Less at 0.5% PIR on my DB36 coating. Between how good the coating is performing and how well Touch-Less worked, there was hardly anything left for the rinseless contact wash to remove. I did Hero on one half and Absolute on the other. Absolute is still great stuff, but I've really been blown away by Rrw and Hero. I'm still skeptical of Idrosave, and that's way too much protection for my cars based on my new maintenance scheme (no toppers) but it's great for maintenance clients. Top n' send baby!

[@JamieTheCleaner]

Yeah it adds a ton of protection only good for every 3-6 months maintenance like on this non coated client, I might try it on a coated client just to see how it does in the future

[@LSD04]

Did my first hybrid wash on Saturday and was my first use of Hero, first impression of Hero is great, nice and slick under the UBS and easy to work with in the sun, This could be my new go to for a less stressful summer wash.

[@jeffc6832]

@@JamieTheCleaner I can definitely also see it being a good option for an aging coating that is starting to lose water behavior.

[@jeffc6832]

@@LSD04 yeah I was hybrid washing before all the cool kids (Eddie, Jamie, etc) started doing it. That has been my standard wash process since 2018 for when my cars are too dirty for rinseless alone. The only difference is that I was either doing it with just a pH neutral soap or spiking it with some APC or doing an APC presoak on the very dirty areas. I'm glad we have some safer "strong" prewash options now when needed. I'm still not doing it every time, but its good to have options.

[@LSD04]

@@jeffc6832 I’ve always been in the proper prewash and one bucket camp, I’m in the Uk and have been on the BH train for many years. I think this might be why I’ve struggled a little with trying Rinseless, has never really felt right, I don’t like seeing a dirty bucket even if the solution removes it from the wash media as the dirt is still on the paint. Having the option to dry as you go in the summer is nice to have, little touch ups in door jams and dry straight away if required, looking forward to trying it a bit more.

[@KyleMarx-fq7lo]

Fantastic video, narrative and I am covering your six, it is the GOAT, the whole Labocosmetica line. Presidio is going to blow you away!

[@Ecdetails]

Great video bro

[@I5ZQ8]

As a professional pressure washer, I use sodium hydroxide to remove diesel and heavy oil and grease stains. Sodium metasilicate is used to do the same but at a lighter level on wood, same as sodium precarbonate. You know what else contains sodium hydroxide?? Hair and grease removers for drains like drain-o..... Think about what that does to your paint.

[@JamieTheCleaner]

😮

[@Enthusiast_detailing]

Super clean is crazy aggressive I Definitely learned my lesson early on with it. It’s ok when properly diluted but I still wouldn’t use it every wash as my pre wash.

[@48416catfish]

What was your delusion ratio for every use? I use 4:1 tires and wheels ( got say hard to beat super clean on tires alone 🏆? and 10:1 for pre-wash. Same rules apply! Not hot suffice , don't let it dry, etc. but curious was dilution you found trouble with? Important information for people to know cause I think a lot of detailers use that formula! Side note lol , Superior Product Acid Wire Wheel shit is the bomb! Use it properly for the idiots that will replay 🤪

[@Enthusiast_detailing]

@@48416catfish I was a IDIOT when I started out I used it straight or 1:1 on tires because I loved the browning. My tires were ASHY it helped that I wet the wheel before hand but I was dumb. Also threw it 1:4 in my foam cannon I thought I was cleaning it up good but my window trim was crying. The rubber seals actually cracked off. Now it’s 10:1 in my foam cannon and that’s about it

[@JeepJL]

The AR was getting the job done. No sputtering or coughing. Don't tell me you've got that swamp water figured out?!? 😂

[@JamieTheCleaner]

Nope the water pressure must be on point at the moment

[@BetterThanNewDetailing]

I use Dark Fury and Super Clean on every new detail. Properly diluted it is perfectly safe on all exteriors. However I never use it on cars that have been coated. Only on cars I’m about prepare to polish and apply coatings. There’s nothing better at removing bugs than Dark Fury.

[@gorillanismo]

Jamie, I love these last couple of months what ur doing with the channel. Torture tests, reviews, education, u are on fire!!!! Im sold with Labo: Semper, Sidero, Idrosave, Primus, Purifica and now they are coming with both Preludio...

[@Gary_Rigs]

Breaking out the chemistry knowledge. Nice! Very informative sir

[@dini1046]

I thought you were saying ceder oil and i was confused. Why is JTC using wood oil on those rims. Primus, Glico, Ductile, have been great. 3PH and 2PH have been impressive. Idrosave has been cool too

[@IamDetailedAF]

Awesome! I have yet to try their stuff... May have to check it out and get on that 🐐 level

[@GDavis49]

I bet after this much foam the driveway is more slippery than Dewar being questioned at US Customs

[@JamieTheCleaner]

Dewar just slips on by no problems 👀

[@tonykemper8896]

I’ve been in love with incredible suds lately but with it getting hotter maybe this might be my go to summer soap. 🤔

[@RCdetails203]

Just don’t let the sun dry an alkaline soap like this on the surface

[@Sheldon_Classen]

Interesting review I wonder how primus would compare to Bilt Hamber 👊🏼

[@JamieTheCleaner]

Eddie gonna do it

[@JhawkerZ]

Information and education. Great demo. Will definitely save ya bacon and save the turtles. Let's GOOOOO JAMIE10 save... you.... some change 🎉

[@Lucid77157]

Primus does it all while also being PFAS free. Hail to the king

[@chrisbradley3224]

Almost no soap would have a reason to contain PFAS. Maybe a wash and wax. It is good that Labo is open and transparent on this though.

[@Lucid77157]

@@chrisbradley3224 good point but yeah it’s definitely nice to see

[@CleanerCars]

i finally was able to get a sds sheet from primus 2.0. It has sodium hydroxide in it. It's at 1% so it's a low amount in there. It's still a great product, but i just wanted to clear that up.

[@1stfrompuertorico568]

How funny, looking like my grandpa with socks and crocks😜😜😜

[@NoirSavant]

It’s better than bilt hamber?

[@JamieTheCleaner]

Hmm now that would be a good comparison I’ll get some

[@KicoMendoza]

Was about to ask the same thing.

[@JamieTheCleaner]

@@KicoMendoza I’ll have to get some and compare 👍

[@alfredwilliams12]

Great video Bro, I'm gonna need a warehouse to keep up with all the products you and Eric showing on these videos. 😅

[@79blustone]

Nasty chemicals are not good for the environment or long term use on your paintwork- agreed. Tbf, I'm really enjoying using Idrosave, I love the protection it puts down. I'm looking for a bottle of Descale but might buy Labocosmetica Purifica instead as I like their environmental credentials, plus....I wanna keep my clear coat. Descale is an amazing product too!what's Semper like compared with Reset?

[@JamieTheCleaner]

I’m gonna have Reggy on the podcast this Friday and we will deep dive into ph levels and why semper is a bucket wash 👍

[@79blustone]

@@JamieTheCleaner Looking forward to tuning in 👍

[@ronayotte3571]

Between Eddie Colon's and your reviews... my bank account it being drained! 🤪

[@DetailsNMe]

Excellent video!!!

[@cebasmb8250]

Jamie, before I watch the video, yes, it's the best soap

[@wesoakes]

Tip Top McGoo. Like a docta! Uncle Jamie

[@JamieTheCleaner]

LIKE A DOCTA WES OAKES 🧑‍⚕️

[@wesoakes]

@@JamieTheCleaner TAKE A CHANCE JESUS DID

[@armourdetailsupply]

Good stuff, and great info!

[@Murph97]

Great video per usual. Why don’t you wash under the metal car port? Or do you want to test things in the sun on purpose?

[@JamieTheCleaner]

I could, I may get another one to put over the rocks and make that the full time wash bay

[@Murph97]

Amen, that southern sun looks hot 🔥

[@jefferrrson1x]

Mannn I def gonna get the 3ph system before I ceramic coat. No hype 1 year or gyeon MOHS… hmmmm. What you think bro?

[@DavidRuiz-nb9fh]

Great video

[@jfarm_1311]

Jamie be running around outside to get it sprayed off before it dries in the swamp sun

[@JamieTheCleaner]

Gotta be FAST 💨

[@codygibson3765]

Does the 3ph break down iron contamination? Like does it remove the need for iron remover?

[@JamieTheCleaner]

Sometimes yes 👍 but not if it’s heavy contamination

[@codygibson3765]

@@JamieTheCleaner appreciate the quick response man! Definitely gonna keep tuning in for more awesome content! Thank you!

[@ethanblan435]

Great video Jamie! I was with you till the idrosave 😂 How well does this hybrid wash do for bugs?

[@JamieTheCleaner]

For maintenance great 👍 for new vehicles you still need a citrus pre treat

[@ethanblan435]

@@JamieTheCleaner what about p&s bug off and foam over with primus?

[@JamieTheCleaner]

@@ethanblan435 yep 👍 works great

[@hippopotimusstew]

So good

[@kirkwilson5900]

The actual goat on your click bait cover image . 😂 and why dont we call it Primus vs preemus? Cuz its European vs a great band from the 90's?

[@yanniobkirk5744]

Some facts are wrong here. Look at the SDS for Primus 2.0. Sodium Hydroxide, Potassium Hydroxide, Sodium Metasilicate, and everyone's favorite cancer related ingredient 2-butoxyethanol. Oh and the PH of Primus 2.0 is listed at >12.

[@orthodox1717]

Whoa! Interesting.

[@JamieTheCleaner]

Correct but no where near the high percentages of the others listed and at the bottom of the SDS ingredient list 👍 and I’m not even sure if that one is the updated Primus 2.0 sds can you link the one you found

[@yanniobkirk5744]

​@@JamieTheCleaner I had to get it from Autoality where I bought it. Took them several days to get it from Labo. For a company that prides itself on having safer chemicals they sure don't make it easy to get their SDS docs.

[@yanniobkirk5744]

@@JamieTheCleaner I couldn't find any public links to any Labocosmetica Safety Data Sheets. First red flag for the brand. I had my retailer e-mail it to me and that took a few days for them to get it from Labo. When I reached out to Labo directly I received no response.

[@DJJDSKREWED]

Dark fury is the beast!

[@Orr_s]

Jamie…need your helpp. I wanna buy a shinemate DA polisher. I was gonna go with the milwaukee since i have 3 batteries. But thinking the regular cord shinemate. Its going to be used on my RAM limited full size truck. Idk if i should go 15mm or 21mm just for regular maintenance of the paint. Also do you strictly use the edge guard pads with your shine mate or go with other brand pads depending on correction? Also was wondering can i buy a much smaller backing plate and get into the smaller areas with the same DA or is that not really useful with a 21 or 15 polisher? It will be my first machine i buy so i want to get everything right. Still kinda Torn between the milwaukee tool only and shinemate corded for same price…but yours and Eddy’s vids recently kinda swayed me towards shinemate even tho its corded

[@JamieTheCleaner]

Shinemates will definitely give you less vibration but the convenience of already having batteries I would probably just go ahead and get the Milwaukee cordless and later get a 21mm shinemate if you want more cutting power, I have been using a variety of buff and shine pads lately with the edgeguard, free ride, and Uro wools they are awesome

[@Orr_s]

@@JamieTheCleaner awww sheeitt…okay so 15mm or 21 for the milwaukee for my first polisher? What packing plate would you run if i were to switch the factory one? Thanks a lot. Love your stuff man

[@ParthPatel-gl1ct]

the only thing i use super clean for is tires cuz it strips that dirt instantly

[@jayhoughton558]

Their product page says it contains potassium hydroxide. I thought that chemical is very similar to sodium hydroxide. I’m no chemist but it seems like it is corrosive too potentially?

[@JamieTheCleaner]

Definitely 👍 but at the percentage in the formula is why it gets a passing grade of still being a non caustic formula, basically they have a good chemist 👍

[@jayhoughton558]

@@JamieTheCleaner for sure. And the examples you have likely had high amounts of caustic sodas in them. But there are others that may well have less and are no more corrosive than Primus. I assume P&S and Koch Chemie may not be applying for the same VDA certification. So just because they don’t have it doesn’t mean this product is safer. Would be interesting to see how other products would do in the certification testing (like Frostbite or Active foam). Both are great and both are a lower PH than primus. I believe the caustic soda is the reason some put rust inhibitors in the formula. It makes the soda not caustic on the surface.

[@JamieTheCleaner]

@@jayhoughton558 maybe so! Primus so far has been the one for me that cleans the best especially on the wheels and tires a full comparison with Koch/P&S deep dive may have to happen for sure

[@Twiztid_Metal]

What do you think of Chem X Stars and Stripes?

[@orthodox1717]

What about all those high pH wheel/tire cleaners?

[@JamieTheCleaner]

Like dark fury …most all the good tire cleaners are sodium metasilicate Adams, ADS, Carpro I believe, much better chemical than the sodium hydroxide in like dark fury, suds lab anything brown seems have it

[@Seafiftyfive]

Awesome info! How many gallons do you get out of your cr spotless Jamie?

[@JamieTheCleaner]

Not many my water chews it up

[@trevorproctor7310]

So why do you have to Speed Run Idrosaveas opposed to a standard ONR type rinseless where you just kinda spray the whole car and get to working at your own pace?

[@JamieTheCleaner]

It has a stout sealant, move fast

[@trevorproctor7310]

@@JamieTheCleaner Nice! Thats awesome! I was looking for a good Ethos D3FY Replacement for that last minute touch for door jambs. D3FY looks great and the protection left behind lasts a decent amount of time as well! I just prefer having as few bottles with me as possible / as many multipurpose products as I can to keep the load light since I'm mobile 🤙

[@DragosDetailing]

Your going to make me run out of money lol I’m gonna have to try it

[@JamieTheCleaner]

Dilute 5:1 and throw away your wheel and tire cleaners

[@DragosDetailing]

@@JamieTheCleaner bet that on gang 🫶🏻

[@OraEtLabora0]

12:26 not Absolute?

[@zdub303]

If high pH (above 7) is by definition the concentration of free hydroxide ions in the water, I don't see how the addition of NaOH (sodium hydroxide) would be any more harsh on your paint than anything else at the same pH. This idea of caustic sodas is a bit overblown from what I can see. High pH is high pH and having high pH on your paint is probably whats doing the damage. The presence of the sodium is irrelevant (if you have soft water it's got a bunch of sodium in it anyways). Now these boutique shampoos might have surfactants and corrosion inhibitors in them to protect the paint and plastics against the presence of high pH but I suspect the real answer is that the pH of the water in your bucket or the foam from your foam cannon is just diluted down to a lower pH, probably around 9-10. Would love to see some evidence to the contrary but my real guess is that harsh cleaners like Dark Fury and Super Clean are being used at a higher pH than something like Primus 2.0 when actually applied to your paint.

[@JamieTheCleaner]

It’s the formulation of the product and the percentages of the caustic sodas used for sure, the ph is just the metering stick and you can clearly see the higher percentage of soda used does increase the ph value and is a much more caustic product in the end

[@zdub303]

@@JamieTheCleaner Yeah, I think rather than trying to avoid caustic soda specifically, we should probably just be avoiding very high pH applications in general. Especially when we've got products with great cleaning surfactants that don't need high pH. For a high pH application I'm guessing 9-10 is the sweet spot that these alkaline soaps are going for. They're all going to use some sort of (salt)-hydroxide to get there though, its just dialing in the concentrations both in the bottle and the foam cannon.

[@thinkforyourself5672]

You like this a lot better than Carpro Lift?

[@JamieTheCleaner]

@@thinkforyourself5672 never tried lift

[@thinkforyourself5672]

@@JamieTheCleaner Well that answer's my question lol. Just ordered a bottle of Primus. Let's see how she does

[@JamieTheCleaner]

@@thinkforyourself5672 I’ll try some lift too 👍🧼

[@franklucas800]

What's the blue nozzle your using to rinse?

[@antoinebenjammin]

Thoughts on Primus vs KC Active Foam?

[@camdenparrish3064]

What’s the difference in P&S Crystal Wash to Labo Primus 2.0?

[@JamieTheCleaner]

Crystal wash is an acidic pre soak and Primus is an alkaline ph pre soak

[@camdenparrish3064]

@@JamieTheCleaner so would crystal wash help decontaminate the paint more than what primus would? Such as water spots and road grime that would need to be clayed to remove the minerals

[@westcoasttools5179]

I’m confused, I use 3D orange(citrus) degreaser for wheels and tires and all around apc because of how “safe”, biodegradable, voc, etc. it is marketed to be. Upon further research I found that this chemical contains sodium hydroxide. I just don’t see how 3D can make all these environmentally friendly claims for the chemical while containing sodium hydroxide. Any information or opinions would be appreciated.

[@yanniobkirk5744]

Chemistry is complicated. Seeing a generic chemical name on an SDS doesn't tell us enough information about a formula. 3D formulas are safer than others but an APC is a degreaser and a high alkaline product. They will never be as safe as using plain water.

[@Wesssssst]

Why do those bmws beep so much?

[@miggs80]

I can’t imagine a car shampoo with a PH of 11 not being hard on a ceramic coating. If it can remove polishing oils it’s going to remove any topper you put on top of your ceramic coating as well. Do you actually use this on a weekly basis?

[@jayhoughton558]

I can’t speak for this specific product, but remember it will be diluted and that will lower the PH. Not sure exactly how much but I suspect around 9 maybe after dilution (bit of a guess).

[@hartlanddetailer5670]

Personally I would not use a higher (9) pH on a weekly basis. I would use a pH neutral Shampoo or a rinseless wash on a weekly basis. I would use this soap once or twice a year, depending on soil level? Then after using a higher pH soap, I would top, if coated, a spray sealant from the same product in the family line.

[@stopbeingstupid8208]

@@hartlanddetailer5670 can you recommend some weekly soaps the foam cannon?

[@btbd2785]

you like this even better than P&S Mud Buster ?

[@JamieTheCleaner]

@@btbd2785 mud buster is nice too but yeah I’d say this is the superior soap 🧼

[@AtEaseDetailing-CeramicCoating]

What’s your opinion on ADG f bomb

[@jamesp57867]

My name is mud.

[@JamieTheCleaner]

MY NAME IS MUDD BA DUH DUN DUN

[@Turbo6Detail]

Looks legit, unlike the band. Primus sucks 🤘🤠🤘

[@JamieTheCleaner]

🤣

[@grubbjt]

How does it compare to frostbite?

[@JamieTheCleaner]

Stronger than frostbite, you can use frostbite for weekly maintenance 👍🧼

[@grubbjt]

@@JamieTheCleaner awesome. Thanks for the reply

[@RCdetails203]

Haven’t tried primus yet but I have been using maniac line foam gun pre wash the past few months with great results….i wonder how similar primus and maniac line pre wash are

[@JamieTheCleaner]

Probably pretty similar

[@RCdetails203]

@@JamieTheCleaner update: I bought a bottle of Primus 2.0 and this stuff cuts threw dirt and bird poop like butter….the dilutions for primus and maniac line pre wash are exactly the same and my cheap ph test strips from Amazon put them both in the 13 range, Purifica was around a 2 can’t wait to try that out as well

[@shovlbum5836]

Don’t hurt the turtles yall 🐢

[@1stfrompuertorico568]

First!!!