R5 vs R5 Mark II: Should You SAVE $1500?

[@AndrzejZalewskiYT]

I saved much more than $2000 for literally half the price of mk2 for brand new R5, and for the saved money I spent 3 weeks in sunny Portugal moving from dark and cold Poland of November :) I just can't over complement R5, it's still such complete and capable camera

[@GazFoto]

Sticking with my R5 and R3, fed up of wasting money constantly chasing the next camera. Plus now they make little difference in the real world, we have almost reached the peak I think in what you need.. Getting out there and improving your technique and field craft will get you better pictures than any new camera will.. Show me somebody that is taking better pictures with the new R5m2 than they did with the old R5. How many times has anyone said 'your pictures are greatly improved this week do you have a new camera', probably not as you cannot tell!!

[@mikafoxx2717]

I would argue the R5 and R3 are already well beyond what's necessary. Give a pro a 5DS or 1Dx or even less and they'll just go to work making photos that you won't notice any difference. Hell, give them a 5D mkii even. They might miss some wildlife or not have as many mp for that landscape print but it won't matter if they're still out trying for photos constantly.

[@alexfournier9956]

to my mind, i ll investonce again in 10 years when they ll have camera with 100000000 megapixels and 50K video

[@colintraveller]

Exactly . Why is it that Reviewers can't be more honest !!!

[@paulk2257]

Well said, but I would make the point that a feature like eye tracking did make a huge difference to some photography genres. Most gear changes are evolutionary - a good photographer did just as well with almost any model of 5D - but occasionally technology improvements are revolutionary. The R5 was streets ahead of the 5D, but I sense that the mark 2 is just an evolutionary change with a revolutionary price hike.

[@alfy1269]

I also run an R5 and R3 which are both awesome. R3 focus capability is great, R5 a little less exciting in the field but great at edit time. Thought long and hard about the R1 and R5ii, logic tells me another R5 would be a better choice.

[@deniskeith4796]

have both.... and I found myself using the R5 II most often... pre capture is definitely a game changer....

[@ElectrikPlastic]

If you have money to spare, the R5 II extra features look great. I do not have money to spare, and I'm extremely happy with the R5 I that I bought. You'll be happy either way!

[@wellingtoncrescent2480]

I really appreciate this detailed comparison. I am a huge fan of my R7/RF100-500 for birding, but I recently added an R5, so as to "graduate" to a full frame. I opted for the R5 over the R5 II, in part because of how the new sensor suffers in dynamic range and low-light performance. While tempted by improved AF with the Mark II (for both stills and video), the original was already being billed as the best AF on the market. It was therefore hard to believe that any modest improvements could justify a $2000 price difference here in Canada, particularly for an amateur. Instead, I was was able to put this difference towards a new lens. Since I'm perfectly content with the frame rate on the R5, the only thing I feel I may be missing is pre-capture, which I have enjoyed on the R7.

[@jan_wegener]

It's all about what works best for you, and you can't really argue with your choice

[@edwardcrawford4180]

Excellent analysis. I own both cameras and, to me, the best features of the Mark II are lack of rolling shutter and pre-capture. I have already decided that the eye tracking will not be worth fiddling with. It is easy enough to use the joy stick to move the focus point around. For now, I will keep the R5 as a backup and use it in very low light situations. Thanks Jan!

[@paulrossibirds]

Flap rate of small birds taking off and duck burst takeoffs are very often around 20 flaps per second. That syncs with 20 frames per second. So, for each takeoff with the R5 you very often get all good wing positions or all bad. But at 30 fps with the R5ii you get the shot in between, when you start off with the first click hitting a bad position. That bad position is not repeated. So, you get at least 1 good position in that case. When a certain opportunity comes around once every 10 years or so, you will be happy you had 30fps.

[@aspotterabroad4145]

I have had the original R5 for a while now and it never disappoints, I'm not rushing out for the MkII. I think I will wait until the MkIII or even MkIV ! Replacing my R7 for the eventual R7 MkII is more likely for me.

[@MVBirdphotos]

After entering the mirrorless environment with the R7, paired with a RF 100-500, I was really pleased with the results. But, watching all of Jan's videos, I was intrigued with the R5. When the R5 II came out, I was able to purchase a virtually new (150 shutter activations) "used" R5 for just over $2,000. I am amazed at the images it achieves with the RF 100-500 + RF 1.4x extender; this is now my main combination to take into the field. The R7 is now paired with the relatively inexpensive but really good RF 100-400 (effective reach of 640mm!) for an extremely lightweight set-up that I always have with me in the car, just in case an opportunity arises. So, while I appreciate the advances in the R5 II, I'm very content at this time, with no plans to upgrade either camera for the foreseeable.

[@jan_wegener]

Thanks for sharing!

[@anirudhsingh9756]

Always a good day when you post Jan!

[@jan_wegener]

Great to hear :) Wish I could post more hehe

[@nordic5490]

I own both the R5 & R5ii. I mostly shoot stills. The R5ii is better than the R5 in nearly every aspect. The R5ii AF is much better, especially with a 1.4x tc on. The R5ii fires the flash in e shutter mode, and during focus stacks - essential for macro work, the R5 does not. The R5ii rolling shutter is so minimal now that the e shutter mode can be used for nearly everything now, compared to R5 that often had very objectional rollingnshutter issues on small fast moving birds. There is a noticeable evf delay in the R5. I could shoot swifts and welcome swallows in flight on my 5D4, but not on my R5 due to that evf delay I can now shoot those small fast moving erratic birds again on my R5ii due to the much smaller delay between the action and the evf displaying it. Buy the R5ii. You may want to stick with the R5 for astro for its 1/3 stop better high iso noise But for everything else, buy the R5ii.

[@nordic5490]

Also, the R5ii precapture, and the 30fps has already bagged killer shots I could not have taken on my R5.

[@billx4266]

Hi, what about the image quality? Does the R5II gives more detail or is it the same?

[@KoenKooi]

Being able to use flash with the fully electronic shutter is a game changer! Not just when using the builtin focus stacking feature, but also the indoor family pictures now that it’s dark and rainy outside.

[@jan_wegener]

helps for sure!

[@sayansdesire]

Best comparison between these 2 gears on KZbin, till date. Your images are mind-blowing. Loved it. ❤

[@jan_wegener]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@tomscott88]

After your initial review I bought the R5. I got a really good deal on a low shutter count for £1700. But the shutter count is t reliable like it was on the DSLR cameras as everyone uses electronic shutter mode. Turned out the camera had quite a few issues and I ended up returning it… I also saw a lot of wobbles and rolling shutter and thought with the R52 I’m late to the game and should just invest in the newer better camera. I bought the R5MKII and with the batteries it was a bit of an eye watering upgrade cost but I’ve been super happy with it! The video is incredible and the stills are miles better than my 5DMKIV although a touch of a downgrade from the R5 it is so much better than the 5D that to me I haven’t really been disappointed with it at all. If I keep is as long as my 5Ds being nearly 8 years it will be well worth the money. I will pick up another or possibly the R63 if it’s released or even an R82 if they come out. Would love the tech in a smaller body that I can take when I don’t need all the power of the R5! Thanks Jan appreciate the review and your channel has inspired me to get out more and more as I was in a photography slump before hand! Love the vids keep it up!

[@jan_wegener]

Thanks for sharing. The R5 series is such a monster upgrade to the 5D series

[@photobeast]

R5s are selling for $2599 now and I just bought one with five batteries a cage and EF to RF adapter for $1800 with less than 6K actuations. I have one of the mark 2 for a few years now but the Arnold switch killed it for me. A friend of mine owns an Amazon resale store and sold me the R6 Mark II when it first came out for $1,200. Even though it's a good camera it doesn't hold up next to the R5 and that on-off switch it's just a total pain in the ass especially when I'm shooting with like a 500 mm f4. I have to take my eye off the target which I hate to do. The R5 for me is the perfect customized camera when you set it up properly.

[@ElBoyoElectronico]

Sticking to my R5 as I am still saving up for the 600m f4 ;) The R5 II really seems like a huge and meaningful upgrade though. Gotta set priorities!

[@axelhildebrandt]

The biggest differences the R5II makes for my style of photography are pre-capture, and the much improved AF system. When I can't get close to birds, I don't hesitate to use the 2x extender with the RF600f4, even for birds in flight. With the original R5 this was not working nearly as well, especially with varying backgrounds and initial focus acquisition.

[@jan_wegener]

Yes, it;s much better for that

[@WernerBirdNature]

Hi Jan, this is a very solid comparison !! I'd agree action and video are the most important reasons to aim for the R5ii, and it could be wise to first gain some experience with the first R5 and make sure to already have some good glass. I had been shooting the R5 this year mostly in EFCS to avoid rolling shutter, and in this context the R5ii has a big advantage in being able again to use ES without worries, which has actually a huge impact on battery usage since the mark 1 only shoots fast in EFCS (or MS) as long as the batteries are above 50% After my first weeks with the R5ii, I mostly appreciate the pre-shooting and AF improvements. My original isn't sold yet, because the market seems a bit flooded and it's crazy how people get afraid of the total shutter count, while the ES usage hardly ages the camera 🙈

[@jan_wegener]

yes, very odd to even consider shutter count for R5 in most cases

[@bbasiaga]

Value per dollar generally favors the previous generation. Its often 90% of the functionality for 60% of the price. The R5 was one of th e rare cameras where that was not true. The R and 5DIV were left in the dust at that time. R5II is a nice upgrad for sure, but much closer in total performance than what the R 5 was replacing at the time.

[@martinpawliczek8692]

love your content and especially your calm voice. German from Japan. Keep going.

[@jan_wegener]

hehe thanks! Did you listen in English or with the new sub feature?

[@martinpawliczek8692]

@jan_wegener In english. I like your voice 😂

[@janstolk2787]

I have them both and will keep de R5 next to the R5II. Thanks for great video again Jan.

[@jan_wegener]

Enjoy!

[@sswildlifevideos]

Great video, Jan! I do a lot of low light wildcat photography and owls for half my photography and the other half is birds in flight. While I like what the R5 Mark II brings to the table with BIF/low light AF improvements, precapture, and improved video AF, your video helped me conclude that I’m happy waiting a few yrs for the R5 Mark II to come down in price before the upgrade. Thanks from the western USA!

[@Kellysher]

Thank Jan, no R5ii for me at the moment,but I like to stay up to date,. Plus I really trust and appreciate your opinion! I’m waiting for the R7 ii. I also wish Canon had something like a 100-600 or 200-600 with a decent aperture. While I’m dreaming, I would add a mid level fast 600 prime for around $6,000 😊. I love my RF 100-500 but would appreciate a little more reach and better aperture without adding too much weight. I own the 1.4 tc, but don’t love F10 or not being able to zoom back on the short side. I guess everything is a trade off somewhere. I think all of this just means these are good times and we’re lucky to have so many good choices across the brands! Cheers!

[@normansuchorzewski1026]

I stuck with the original R and waited for the R5 Mk2 to finally come out and bought it straight away. I skipped the 5. I noticed the difference with the auto focus, Ibis, and it has been a killer for bird photography - however, for commercial phots such as work place brochures and landscapes even the original R still does a superb job. As with all things some tools can give you an edge. I do however love the Mk 2 and no regrets getting on skipping the original R5.

[@sonicck]

I’m in the same boat with the R and waited for this r5 II haven’t made my purchase yet I have two more months before I do tho

[@DavidfromSwitzerland]

I own an R5 since 2020, and I am very happy with it. I will definitely upgrade it within the next 12 months mark ii.

[@Vader66-]

Just got the refurbished R5 on canon black friday for $1999 I love it

[@davidpruitt3255]

Same! Absolutely worth the midnight purchase.

[@mikafoxx2717]

So much better value. The R5 2 has less rolling shutter in tradeoff for worse high iso. That's mostly it. Use a mechanical burst if you're so worried about the rolling shutter at really high ISOs.

[@FrancoisdeMelogue]

R5M2 - I am not a birder but I still love your videos - great job. I update cameras infrequently. I had a 5dm3 then the eosr and now the r5m2. Great camera - truly love it. It will probably be 5 years before I think about something else (well unless BH gives me a free gift card). Happy Holidays.

[@jan_wegener]

it is a monumental upgrade from those cameras :)

[@normanwatson9056]

I updated mainly for the pre capture, it's a game changer for me and never have it turned off

[@Toamserippa]

I actually use the Eye Control in a similar way, as you do with your double back button AF. I set the eye control to be always active without the reticle and have it snap my selected AF Point or area to whereever I look, when I press the joystick. That way I can guide my AF, when it doesnt want to stick to the right subject, and it doesnt really matter if the tracking of my eye is on point, as long as it is generally the right direction.

[@CNCTurboStep]

At 00:04:09 you still mention the 14 bit depth of the Mark II being an advantage over the 12 bit for electronic shutter on the Mark I. However, the dynamic range of the Mark II is the same or slightly lower at ISO 200 and above. I'm confused as to how you think the extra 2 bits will be an advantage to YOUR photos because all of your images I've seen are shot at far higher ISOs.

[@jan_wegener]

it's not an advantage to me personally

[@petrpohnan875]

Recenty I did replace my good old R6 with this new R5II. I am rather a keeper of bodies so when it comes to the replacement I try to stay up to date. So from my point of view, if someone has the R5, there is not a reason for an upgrade. If not and the high end FF camera in on the list, then it makes sense to buy the R5II if the budget allows it.

[@gerhardgroen]

I totally agree with your findings, I use my R5 plus a simple 24-105 zoom lens for architecture, landscape, tourism now and my R5 m II plus my L 100-500, 1.4 and 2.0 extenders for birds and insects (Butterflies and Dragon flies). The use of the 2.0 extenders seems a lot better to me in focussing and in IS, giving me a very workable 1000 mm in reach! Having a R5 with suitable lens for other things helps me too really use a high end camera instead of my smartphone - not bad at all, but ... So I will not sell my R5 and enjoy them both!

[@michaeljohannsen4872]

I didn’t see the R5 II as a „Full upgrade“ to my older R5 and hence without a clear upgrade path jumped ship and enjoy a lot more great lens option on the Nikon ground. While there are a few differences in handling are better on Canon, most of it is a matter of getting used to. And one feature that neither Nikon has, and Canon has removed is taking multiple exposure photos in camera and Raw image quality for they only offer files being saved as JPGs

[@AnthonyDodds-k3j]

Changing from an R6, I think this is what I have been waiting for. All wildlife, mostly birds in grey dull UK weather.

[@Alexander_Kushnarev-117]

I dreamed of buying this R5 Mark II, but after the review of Duade Paton, that it has a working ISO 6400, then I will get the same result on Canon RP. Also everyone complains about overheating of the new camera. I can record 4K 60 on the R7 at 1 h 40 min, and here it's only 45 minutes.

[@GabePerlPhotography]

Excellent video as always!

[@jan_wegener]

Thanks again!

[@ViciousXUSMC]

For me or was R5C or R5 MKII to pair with my R5C. I kind of like my R5C better to be honest, even for photography for some reason.

[@kennethlui2268]

For wildlife and birds, pre-capture is a must have and R5II is the top choice in Canon world. I continue to use R5 for landscape and portraits.

[@isotechimages.9130]

Good comparison Jan but l don't recall you mentioning the brighter viewfinder.

[@blue7pheonix862]

I have a canon 90d and looking to move into full frame mirrorless but I’m on a budget but I can find good quality used for 2000usd with the r5mii is at 4300 usd so that price difference is hard to jump when the only things I’ll benefit from is the new sport auto focus pre-capture and eye tracking. For 2300 dollars more all the other things are just nice extras so I’m getting the r5

[@falxonPSN]

The R5II would be a good complement to my R3 but that price is pretty steep. I'm also interested in the rumored R7II that is supposed to be much more of a 7D Mark II successor in that it's expected to be much more upmarket from where the R7 currently sits. If the point for me would be getting an R5 for cropping ability then shooting on an r7 uncropped would be relatively similar from a noise level perspective and with the benefit of a 1.6x effective TC

[@markdavies9636]

I would love to have both!

[@michaellewis5921]

Being a landscape shooter first and a wildlife shooter 2nd, I am sticking with my fantastic R5, at least for now, as I feel like it is best for my primary use case. With my first grandchild on the way though, perhaps then I get into more video and stuff and at some point the R5 Mk II (or perhaps eventually the R5 Mk III if one comes along) makes more sense...But as you say. you know you are in a good place when the older camera is still such a high performing body.

[@d2c9416]

Hi Jan will you do a comparison video between R5 II and R6 II? Both mark II versions. Will be good to review.

[@paulanthony1689]

I have both cameras and the R5 2 is MUCH better in every respect, especially video. That loss of DR at high ISOs I haven't really noticed, but I'll take Jan's word for it. Get the Mark 2, it's worth the extra $.

[@russellthorstrom6084]

Great comparison Jan. Thanks! I have both and prefer the R5 mk II for the AF and precapture. Thanks!

[@jan_wegener]

Precapture is a big plus!

[@TheXone7]

I was quite disappointed with the "new" R5 II sensor. So it actually made me happy that I didn't have much motivation to switch. The other features and improvements are not worth the price in my opinion.

[@TheWildlifeGallery388]

I used the savings to purchase the new RF 70-200 L USM Z Lens - which finally showed up yesterday after waiting for 5-weeks - not being able to set the mfn button to switch between stills and video really is a big deal - it's so much faster - plus you could set the custom function #3 for a different video setting and have 2 different video settings to switch between much faster than having to reach for a button on the other side of the camera.

[@barryscully1820]

Sold my R5 a few months ago, great image quality but the one I had was very buggy and would shut down just as I hit the shutter button quite often. R5II definitely has features I have been waiting for as I am currently using the Sony A7RV which I found to be pretty equivalent to the R5 but much more stable. Sony doesn't have something like the R5II in that price range so the r5II is still on my list since I have a great 500mm f/4 sitting around doing mostly nothing as my 5DS is rarely used for nature photography anymore. We shall see if the A1 goes down in price to near the R5II before I make a decision.

[@zegzbrutal]

Depending on the needs, I've R6 R7, so R5ii makes sense to me when I upgrade

[@maemu_matshete]

I use R6 ii, I see the new R5 ii has similar button to switch from video to Photo, that's a disaster when you shooting wildlife if you shoot both video and photos. Great video.👌🏽

[@jan_wegener]

yes, it's a terrible implementation

[@johntyson8932]

My photography is mainly in the landscape genre these days so I'll probably stay with my R5 for now. As for the overheating, i have had it happen relatively often in climates milder than those found in Australia so it is certainly something of an issue.

[@jan_wegener]

on high or standard?

[@johntyson8932]

@@jan_wegener on high. I just believe it was a design flaw and some are more susceptible to others - possibly a manufacturing flaw...

[@sonicck]

Shoot I’m coming from the “R” lol I have to go for the R5 II believe it or not I’ve made good money with my eos “R” but now I feel it’s time for a good upgrade, also hearing the rumors for the R6 III I’m looking to upgrade around March and if the R6 III is showing to be real and features good I might go for the R6 III

[@sjkay06]

First off, great video as usual. I’m new to this exciting world of bird photography. I’m currently working with my old Canon 60D. That camera has a whopping 9 focus points😅. I think I’m at the point where I would benefit from a newer camera. I thought of getting the R5ii after it was announced. I’m just not sure that camera would be the best option for a newbie like me. It almost feels like it would be giving a new driver the keys to a Lamborghini! I’m pretty sure I will go with the cheaper R6ii and as I progress further I can always sell that and upgrade. I’m also worried the R5 with its 45 MP will require so much more hard drive space. So many choices! But one thing is certain, going from the 60D to any mirrorless camera is going to take some getting used to.

[@jan_wegener]

It’s a big jump either way. In the way you use it both of those cameras would be very similar. But R5 definitely needs more hard drive space etc and better computer and more expensive memory cards

[@alexnrs8700]

Very helpful and much appreciated! I’m thinking my kit will become an R5 and two R6ii’s, plus maybe an R7ii if canon brings a proper pro-body design back to the R7 line (R7 for me, despite its excellent features, was disappointing - basically an xxD series level body with 2 card slots - and I’ve sorely missed the pro body of the 7Dii). Thanks Jan.

[@leezheng8161]

Nice vid. Could you do a comparison between the Canon R5 II and the Sony A1 II as well? Which camera has better autofocus and which has the better image quality? Thank you!

[@kuriouskhemist3395]

Great video as always Jan! Would love to hear your thoughts on Canon's wildlife lens lineup vs Nikon, with respect to image quality and affordability...

[@octaviansfetcu4458]

Thanks for this video. Just purchase the original R5 brand new, smth like 1800 USD less then R5 II. I'll use it most for landscape photography.

[@jan_wegener]

That sounds like a good deal.

[@adude394]

Great stuff as usual, Jan! As we know, nothing is perfect, and I have to wonder why Canon always seems to move controls around between different camera bodies. Regardless, I'm still planning to add the Mk II to my R6 Mk II and R5, and looking forward to the new AF and seeing how things work with the pre-capture feature. Actually, I have a question about that last: The manual doesn't come out and say, but are we required to use RAW in order to have the pre-continuous shooting? Or does it work as well with cRAW and JPEG? A commenter in a different thread made an excellent point, which I know I tend to forget: We get so wrapped up in the technical aspects of our gear - this dynamic range, that shutter speed, the other stuff - that it's easy to forget about the whole purpose of the gear: Taking good pictures!

[@jesoneswift1471]

Better low light AF means the R5 II is the better choice for my use case.

[@TeddyCavachon]

I bought two R6mkII’s instead of one R5MkII 😊

[@davidleighton7557]

I got fed up waiting for the R5 Mark II to become available in the UK (its now December 2024 and still not possible to buy one ), so decided to keep my R5 and spent the spare cash (plus a little more) on a Nikon Z8 so I could take advantage of my collection of Zeiss primes. Funnily enough, the lack of availability in the Uk some time back of the Nikon Z series was what caused me to abandon Nikon and move to Canon in the first place. Maybe I'll switch to the Canon Mark II in a few years when they become available. Maybe I'll just die of old age first...

[@jan_wegener]

It's not available? Very odd

[@answeris4217]

I don't own the R5 and I will likely go get one now. I will also likely save up to get the R5ii as well seeing I won't lose that much in the used market

[@jean-louisrousselle1794]

Thank you for a very insightful and objective comparison of the two. I am going to stay with my R-5 . I am however very hopeful that the R-7 MKll will be vastly improved, should this be the case I will purchase that body as I prefer using an R7 over using an extender. Thank you for your great videos.

[@FredrikLarssonPhoto]

I had 2 Canon R5, sold them and bought 2 new R5. The R5 II have very little that I want in a camera that the R5 not already had :) Except for it had worst low light performance..

[@TerpyTen]

Maybe one day. For now, I'm too in love with my a6100

[@leemarkowitz4709]

Helpful comparison! Isn’t the R5 II EVF significantly brighter than the R5? Do you find this doesn’t make a difference?

[@jan_wegener]

can't say I found the difference to be dramatic. When compared to the R1 otoh the difference is huge

[@22truite]

How far is the chase for "the perfect camera" will go on? I remember having manual focus only to work with and we were taking good pictures! Soon AI will take over and it will be the end of "true photography" that required skills and patience! I love the R5 it is plenty capable 99% of the time. Thanks Jan for the work you do.

[@jan_wegener]

No matter how good the camera is you will always need skills and patience. For instance you need to get the subject in the viewfinder and know where to actually go.

[@22truite]

@@jan_wegener I agree about finding the birds but it is not "photography". The new technology makes the task so much easier! Maybe you are too young to know what we had to do to shoot a bird in flight, and the cost of film!! When I hear guys coming back from a shoot with 3000 pics at $20/roll of 36 plus treatment, I 'll let you do the math...

[@colintraveller]

Even if the mrk1 is cheaper body alone . A buyer if new to the brand hasn't got a hope of saving that amount u And with the lack of Non branded lenses for the RF range is massive issue . And even with a Canon user they will have more than 1 camera already .. And a working tog will write off any purchases as a business expense and claim it back

[@alisonandguywildlifephotograph]

Just got r5ii … still testing, iso 12,800 is much worse than r3 and even 1dxii…so I’m experimenting with lower shutter speeds and pushing to the right.. much more than r3…but the image quality is great in normal lighting 😎… auto focus on r5ii is even better than r3…even picking the eye up on tiny bird at 700mm

[@jan_wegener]

Yes, you have to push it as far to the right as possible, which makes it hard when you are already struggling for shutter speed

[@Pixelpeeps-69]

I shoot weddings and I have the r6mkii and need another body and am stuck in choosing? Do I go with the mk5ii or a r3 or the new r1?

[@jan_wegener]

R1 is easily the best of them all, if we ignore price etc

[@justonbrazda3846]

You can pick one. A1ii or r5ii. Which you picking Jan

[@jan_wegener]

I have 2 of the one and none of the other...

[@jonbouy22]

have both the r5 and the mark 2 , not really much of a difference . Jan have you used the canon 200mm - 400mm f4 with the built in extender would like an honest review on this lens compared with the rf 100-500 for focusing speed and accuracy thanks.

[@jan_wegener]

Not really, main thing is that it’s soooo heavy

[@fredericbeudot822]

Great and balanced assessment Jan. Now as a side question, what would be your #1 and #2 lens recommendation to pair with the R5mk2 for someone getting into the canon ecosystem for bird and wildlife photography? Where would you start with and without budget limitation?

[@jan_wegener]

100-500 and 600/4

[@eliadallari]

Hello at 15:14which lens hood is mounted on the 500 f 4?? it's all black

[@jan_wegener]

We talked about it in one of the bird photography show episodes. The name has just escaped me

[@eliadallari]

@@jan_wegener Sorry, I didn't understand, what lens hood is it?

[@JorgeHernandez-u8u]

Gracias por la traducción al español 😊

[@mobelue]

I take pics with the mkii I could not take with the original.

[@jan_wegener]

same here

[@kennethlui2268]

To me, the R5II viewfinder is a bit clearer than the R5. Perhaps it is brighter.

[@jan_wegener]

Yes, but not like a dramatic change or a reason you'd choose one over the other?

[@GeirStene-Larsen-mq2vm]

Thank you very much for this excellent and very helpful video. I have a question. Have you noticed any difference in how the R5 ii handle the canon 200-800 mm lense compared with the R5? I find that it’s difficult to get really sharp photos with my R7 with this lens, but have heard that the image quality is better for the R5. Even better for the R5 ii or not?

[@jan_wegener]

It's definitely better with the R5 and R5 II than with the R7

[@ErezMarom]

Very nice video. As a side-business, you should think of offering some soothing recordings of your voice to help alleviate anxiety :)

[@jan_wegener]

hehe

[@marcystarnes5511]

do you use C_raw with the R5 or regular raw - if so do you see any lack of detail with the C-raw

[@jan_wegener]

Craw, it’s essentially the same as full raw

[@RogerZoul]

I have one of my r5s (I sold one of them), a new to me r3, and a r5m2. I’m mainly a bird photographer who loves hot action. Thinking about selling the other r5, though. I could use that cash towards an r7m2 (I have the mark 1 too but I use it in a very limited way to avoid rolling shutter, but that little camera is very good for perched birds and I love the extra reach on my 600f4.). So, I’m still trying to,decide if I should sell it,or keep it. I don’t like having two r5s with different buttons and really prefer the new grip for the mark 2. I was hoping the r3 would address my low light needs when I can get close enough to live with 24 MP. If you have any thoughts on how you would go, please let me know. Really enjoy your videos. They are always helpful.

[@mikafoxx2717]

Why not use mechanical shutter on the R7? No rolling shutter there and it's still pretty darn fast - and actually usable at high shutter speed.

[@RogerZoul]

@mikafoxx2717 - ​​⁠i actually do use first curtain shutter for BIF. I have the camera set up so that the “up” on the D-pad takes me out of ES/silent shutter into FCES in an instant. Then i do my BiF shooting. Then press the up button to get back in silent shutter for perched birds. This works fine, but it is not optimal since I also shoot and R5, R5m2, and an a R3. But, still, this lets me get the most from the r7. I don’t use the full mechanical shutter because it has too much shutter slap, so the first curtain is better. And as you said, no rolling shutter distortion. Thanks.

[@juergenlange0612]

Habe mir vor 3 Jahren eine neue 5D markIV und letztes Jahr eine R7 gekauft und komme damit wunderbar zurecht in der Wildlife Fotografie

[@Theshark-l4k]

If would please answer a related question? I have An R5MKii and a 200-800mm F6.3-9mm. Would a battery grips help me hold it steadier? I’m 80 yrs old. Maybe nothing will help. Thanks

[@jan_wegener]

it would make it heavier, but also not as front heavy

[@Theshark-l4k]

@@jan_wegener thanks

[@Echoesofwild]

A weird setup from Canon. We can assign multiple functions to multiple buttons on camera and lens. However, it is so frustrating to see canon doesn´t offer pre-capture as a function for witch we could assign a button to turn it on and off. Wouldn't be great? Canon wake up.

[@williamruess7242]

Have them both. R5 II wins for 1) Better AF 2) PRE-CAPTURE !! (for me, this alone is worth the upgrade). Will save the R5 for low light situations. Still patiently waiting for the R7 II - hope they do it right.

[@waynedettman6472]

R7mk2,end of 2025

[@polmestra]

I know it ia disappointing, but the reality is there are trade offs in engineering. As far as I understand all stacked sensors have lower dynamic range. I haven't heard this same criticism foe the a1, does it also have this issue?

[@jan_wegener]

it has a bit better DR range and the R1 has the best, but low MP

[@Running-Alive]

Kann die R5 II eigentlich inzwischen Pixel Shift in Raw Mode?

[@iang7007]

Thanks Jan :) went with R5Mk2 and R1. have you done a video or paid tutorial on using canon auto focus? sure could use some help with it :) God bless you :)

[@jan_wegener]

I have multiple set up videos and set up guides

[@iang7007]

@@jan_wegener Thanks Jan :) I purchased the setup guide form you and Glen for the R5Mk2. Would those settings be similar enough to apply to the R1? Aside from that is there a video or guide you can point me to that shows how to use those settings once applied to the camera? For example... you have to hold down the * button and while you do... et.c

[@justonbrazda3846]

And for the heck of it, where does the a1ii stand? Should I cancel my preorder and get the r5ii instead?

[@jan_wegener]

I may make a canon and Sony video again

[@justonbrazda3846]

@ well I have to decide by December 17th when they ship.

[@waynedettman6472]

Sometimes its helpful to show both positive and negative feedback,not just block the ones we disagree with.

[@jan_wegener]

what do you mean?

[@jan_wegener]

I don't delete any comments if you mean that. I do block certain words automatically, like "winner", because the spam bots take over the comment sections with their fake give aways otherwise.

[@Munishvetma]

Which card you use ? I have angelbird cfxprss card takes alot time to buffer Recommend some other card?

[@CNCTurboStep]

Which Angelbird card do you have? I was also looking at them and noticed there are significant differences in their write speeds. If the camera is the limiting factor it won‘t make much difference anyway.

[@jan_wegener]

I use Prograde and Wise Advanced cards

[@sedevacante966]

Does the framerate in the viewfinder decrease when using pre-capture? Like does it go from 120fps to 30fps while you half-press the shutter button?

[@jan_wegener]

I don't notice a difference

[@jimbruton9482]

As an R5 owner I don't see "upgrading" to the R5II. My general rule of all tech is never upgrade to the next generation. Consider the 2nd or 3rd generation upgrade only if there is a significant advantage. I shoot mostly stills and basically no video. For fast action there are techniques that can help overcome any hardware deficiencies of the camera. You being an excellent wildlife top tier photographer know these techniques and your portfolio is stunning, even without the help of the R5II. What using an R5II (or an R1) may allow is to improve your "keeper ratio" of all your shots and you being a professional, is more cost effective for your business to have the newer hardware.

[@jan_wegener]

Yes, even if it means I get 1-2 extra keepers a year of a spectacular scene will make it worth it for me

[@brookscurran]

the R5ii is a massive upgrade for video but aside from sports there isn't much of an upgrade on the photo side

[@contentm3893]

I'm beginning to see that R5 II isn't enough of an upgrade across the board to justify the price difference compared to the R5. The R5 II will overheat inn 4K 120p and when it does that the record times are hard to recover. So on a real shoot the R5 II has issue that the R5 does not besides the record time. What good is having an unlimited record time if the R5 II overheats in 5 minutes?

[@brookscurran]

@@contentm3893why would you record 4k 120p for 5min? I shoot a lot of 120 and haven’t had any hints at overheating yet. Having audio in 120 is nice and C-Log 2 makes the r5 C-Log 3 look awful in harsh light or with any proper grading

[@contentm3893]

@@brookscurran I have to. Off shore ocean capture and other content. I'm not always recording anything but small burst. But....once it overheats the record times do way down. I have not recorded in 95 degree heat in Vegas yet but controlled times in inside temps I can record for 18 minutes. Then it goes down to 5 minutes and then lower. My R5 record for 30 minutes with no overheating and shut off because of record time limit. So personally I'm trying to figure out where the R5 II stands. The R3 could record for 5 minutes before over heating and heat warning at 2 minutes. Trying to figure this out is all. Maybe the R1 is the answer. Again in real world in 95 degree heat, I'm not sure how the R5 II will perform.

[@jeffmanser2883]

yup original

[@adinew8920]

Thanks......

[@Sparisland]

It's the Faustian bargain of Canon.. Give 'em better low light focus but less HISO dynamic range. Same baloney with the R1... give 'em the most comfortable camera body and awesome frame rate but only 24 mpx. They should give R5I owners a coupon for $2k off a 5II with trade-in. That being said, I love my old friend the R5I.

[@jan_wegener]

You can't have it all I guess ;)

[@andersistbesser]

What i get from this video is that the old camera has better image quality. So in this regard you get less for more money if you buy the new one..

[@jan_wegener]

if that's the only aspect you're looking at and always using very high ISO

[@andersistbesser]

@ dynamic rage of the new one is always worse because of the sensor design. If i am expected to spend lots of money for a new camera i expect it to be better in any way , image quality which is the most important thing to me being worse is a no no. Maybe r5iii will have better technology.

[@mikafoxx2717]

Maybe im not the target audience here, but this thing has worse lowlight and dynamic range for a little less rolling shutter. The R5 used or refurbished is a decent price and much much better value. I use an R6 mki and am plenty happy with that for the price. My photos won't look any better with an R5. Autofocus is still great, and if you want no rolling shutter or lower dynamic range, use the bloody mechanical one that's designed for that. Even in the r6 mkii, my friend thinks the electronic is unusable for birds in flight over 1/1000th shutter. Less motion blur yet more motion smear, great tradeoff.

[@kenjanson3428]

The only issue with the R6 is the smaller MP when shooting little birds ect. Often they are a little way off even when using a decent length lense so you have to crop your final image to produce a good shot. Cropping from an image that is starting out at only 24mp isn't ideal. Other than that the R6 and R6 mkii are great cameras.

[@mikafoxx2717]

@kenjanson3428 If you're going to crop, might as well use a crop body if you're gonna give up the sensor size in the image. The R7 has higher pixel density than the R5. Often best get a longer lens and use the extra frame if you can, but yeah.

[@kenjanson3428]

@mikafoxx2717 I do use a bigger lens, 200-800mm and the 100-500mm but there are times you need to crop to improve the image and the R5 handles that well.

[@peterebel7899]

I hold the R5 and pick the R1 with all the saved money ......

[@michael007ish]

I have zero reason to upgrade as the R5 to me is perfect.