January 15 - The death of Catherine Carey (Knollys), daughter of Mary Boleyn

[@marionarnott750]

After hearing of so many women in horrid marriages, it is a delight to hear of such a loving marriage.

[@almontepaolilli7531]

Wow. What a woman who bore 16 children in Tudor times. She must have had a strong constitution.

[@pbohearn]

Almonte Paolilli That’s putting it mildly! LOL OL

[@jesmei6920]

Exactly the opposite. She was dead by mid 40’s!!! Hardy constitution, I think not.

[@lemongrabloids3103]

JesMei in a world where there were no antibiotics... she deserves far more credit than you give her

[@kellyel8646]

Heartbreaking and heartwarming on how many loved her so deeply, especially her husband and of course the Queen. 16 (surviving?) children?! Incredible during any era, but back then?! WOW.

[@chiaroscuroamore]

It’s so sad that Catherine Knollys didn’t get to see her husband of 28 years before she died. 16 children! Wow! It definitely sounds like Elizabeth I was guilt ridden over keeping them apart while her aunt (edit: cousin not aunt) Catherine was ailing. That’s a very lavish funeral. I wonder if the husband was able to attend the funeral? Can’t wait to see what tomorrow’s On This Day in Tudor History brings!!

[@astrol64]

Catherine was the daughter of Mary Boleyn Cary Stafford....who was the sister of Elizabeth's mother, Anne. Catherine was Elizabeth's cousin.

[@chiaroscuroamore]

Suzanne Wilson thank you! I got a bit mixed up there!

[@jamiemohan2049]

​@astrol64 they were likely half-sisters, too. She was conceived and born during Henry's affair with Mary. He paid a lot of money to Mary's husband after the birth with no real reason ....Henry Carey is likely NOT Henry's son though, that was added in. The only one of the Carey children likely to be Henry's is Catherine, yet so few people bring it up. Might also add as to the reason Elizabeth and her were so close.

[@LaPetiteBoulin]

Catherine Carey has always been one of those people that have stayed with me since learning about. I dont know how to explain what I mean really.. Another great video!

[@lese91]

It’s the first day of my period so I might just be hormonal but I cried. She sounds so wonderful.

[@joansmith3296]

Shame on Elizabeth for not allowing Catherine and her husband to see each other. In those days of arranged marriages its so unique to hear of a loving couple who made each other so content. Thanks Claire.

[@anncosten7022]

Thank you for these videos. Very informative and entertaining. Makes one glad to be alive in this day and age and realise how good we have things now. Keep up the good work. Bless you.

[@GrainneDhu]

Your "This Day in Tudor History" is always one of the bright spots of my day. Even the sad ones, like today--it is a bit comforting to think that Catherine Knollys has not been forgotten.

[@carycary5824]

Catherine Carey was one of my ancestors. My name Cary Harwood Cary. My Great great grandfather changed our spelling to Cary I think in the early 1800’s. Thank you for this info. It helps greatly filling in the blanks of our family.

[@denisehill1215]

Catherine was also my great grandmother we trace also to peregrine white on that side of the family

[@tapsars7911]

I knew that Mary Boleyn had a daughter called Catherine . I was however not aware that there was any doubt of her being Henry the Eighth's child . Thankyou to Claire Ridgeway for making me aware of the fact .

[@tapsars7911]

It is good that the queen had a feeling of regret at her behaviour in terms of seperating wife from husband . She paid for a lavish funeral possibly , out of a sense of guilt .

[@theresecatalano4017]

Elizabeth could be very selfish when it came to those she loved. Sad her husband wasn’t able to get to her before she died, thank you for sharing.

[@montrelouisebohon-harris7023]

Yess! Elizabeth was very much like her father Henry the 8th except she was not as murderous as he simply because she was a woman. I think she saw so Much Death during her younger years that it was something she couldn't stand and she would rather have people in prison for life than Kill Everybody.

[@takeittodehart1507]

This is so sad that Francis couldn’t be with his beloved wife .I think Elizabeth 1 felt very guilty as she should have. Thank you Claire. Give the fur babies a hug for me .

[@ladyagnes7781]

So why would they list her with Beaufort heraldry if they're not admitting she's Henry VIII illegitimate daughter. You do the math ...... he's the only one in the bloodline who had illegitimate children so she has Beaufort blood it's because of Henry VIII

[@AndriaBieberDesigns]

I did not know she had that many kids. Thank you for the video. I love all of your work. So sad they couldn’t be together before she passed

[@anneboleynfiles]

Her brother had a large family too, which is why there are so many people today who descend from Mary Boleyn.

[@VeracityLH]

Catherine Carey is one on my list of "If I had a time machine, I'd like to meet..." I think her conversation would be amazing. Great video Claire!

[@astrol64]

poor Catherine and Francis! I could cry!

[@Turefu2]

16 children, that's mean she was very lucky she didn't die any earlier. She was healthy and strong woman.

[@anneboleynfiles]

Yes!

[@aimee2234]

So sad they were kept apart. Elizabeth should feel bad... Thank you, Claire! xoxo

[@kellyfisher4378]

These are very well researched! Thanks!!

[@deborahbeaulieu6740]

Very informative! Love your hair! Hope your new year is prosperous!!

[@anneboleynfiles]

Thank you!

[@princered4]

Thank you for your videos, I'm a big fan!! You awesome!! I regularly watch your videos!!

[@anneboleynfiles]

Thank you!

[@anneboleynfiles]

Thank you!

[@livesouthernable]

Another great video! Thanks again for all the research and hard work in bringing us the Tudor past! 😊

[@darlenefarmer5921]

Thank you.

[@geowynleda4641]

That is so sad.

[@vilmabean9533]

So cruel that they were kept apart.

[@queefburglar6995]

Love your videos !

[@anneboleynfiles]

Thank you!

[@dwightlowery6512]

I absolutely love your videos

[@paulalaye6428]

Hey Claire I'm sooo happy to see your videos again in this new year 2020... This lady was in fact one of my relatives if daughter of henry and Mary Boleyn... My father is from Son born to Mary and Henry... Soooo sad that Elizabeth kept the two apart before her sad death, 16children, wow... Have a great year paula from Sussex in uk

[@susannebemis3311]

my hubby's family too! his line is from the Buckinghams AKA Staffords

[@wendyk.6987]

Very interesting! Thanks for your channel.

[@marymoriarity2555]

Sad story but interesting. Sorry I’ve missed your talks. Slowly recovering from bad cold. Hope Teasel is well.

[@michellerobinson7054]

Hello fellow Tudorite! I hope you feel better soon!!!

[@anneboleynfiles]

Teasel is very well and I hope you get back to normal soon.

[@nanciring8235]

Very sad!!❤️

[@ariesrainbowchild]

Thank you

[@davehowe6734]

Catherine Carey Knollys is my 13th Great Grandmother. Always been fascinated with her and her mother Mary Boleyn.

[@jessicahollinger4933]

Catherine is also my 13th great grandmother. I've enjoyed learning about her as a person. She does sound lovely.

[@colinnorth31]

Thankyou Claire. Jean newport gwent south Wales uk

[@Gaylafay]

Great info, but your hair is the star today. SO CUTE.

[@lhillenburg]

I do think the portrait of Catherine (Carey) Knollys bares a striking resemblance of Henry VIII and Elizabeth I.

[@lizl6232]

Interesting. So sad she couldn’t be with her husband😢

[@gedbob1]

Once again interesting look at times past

[@deborahcabot3100]

Queen Elizabeth I seems selfish to deny a such a request from a man wanting to be with his sick wife. So much money spent on Catherine's funeral because she felt guilty.

[@pbohearn]

Deborah cabot One extravagant self indulgence after another. But then again when youre queen! All things over the top!

[@deborahcabot3100]

@@pbohearn so true! LOL

[@annettefournier9655]

Thanks Claire. Oh for shame not releasing her husband to be with her. 16 children will certainly take a toll on the body. And oh how rare it is th as t a woman be responsible to manage all the families accounts and be cherished for it.💜👍

[@pbohearn]

annette fournier toll on the body? After 16? Really? Lololol Mrs. McAndrews the dentists wife in my neighborhood where I grew up; I think she had 14. I always saw her as pregnant and very red-faced. I think her blood pressure was constantly elevated. I just don’t even know how they did it it was insane going over to their house it was 14 kids and a very activated overstimulated Irish setter, Bridget. God bless that dog LOL.The oldest daughter was as calm as a cucumber thank God! Theresa-St Theresa. She cut out early and became her dad’s dental assistant probably for her own sanity. Enough said.

[@TheAjjupiter]

So sad that she didn't get to see her husband before she died. Why would Elizabeth keep them apart?

[@zero_bs_tolerance8646]

Elizabeth could be very spiteful, it seems. Her way or no way. Like her dad, I guess. Thank you, Claire.

[@montrelouisebohon-harris7023]

Yes! Elizabeth was very much like that and got it from her mother and father and she got her vanity from her father. Elizabeth lived in fear so much of her life because of her mother's beheading and because she was called a bastard for so long. Back in those days she technically was because Anne Boleyn was pregnant with Elizabeth prior to marrying Henry. The laws aren't the same now as long as parents are married the children are legitimate. That during that time if a woman got pregnant even a month before marrying, the child was considered illegitimate and as a royal would not be in the line of succession to the throne. It was a miracle that Elizabeth was put on the throne in England rather than Mary Queen of Scots because at that time Elizabeth was technically illegitimate. Mary Queen of Scots was religious tolerance just as Elizabeth if not more so. The thing about Mary is that she strongly believed it was her Duty as a woman and a queen to have a child and it was all about that dynasty. Elizabeth wanted to rule and didn't care about a dynasty where as Mary Queen of Scots wanted to do both. Even the English people didn't have any problems with Mary Queen of Scots being put on the throne in England but they bitched more about it in Scotland then England because her mother was part French. Scotland was a rough place to live during that time and after Mary has been Queen in France for so long, Scotland had turned into turmoil.

[@zero_bs_tolerance8646]

@@montrelouisebohon-harris7023 ♥

[@mlboone3028]

Catherine was rumored to be a child of Henry the viii

[@anneboleynfiles]

There weren't really rumours at the time, and Henry VIII didn't acknowledge her at all. I think it's far more likely that she was William Carey's and that her mother slept with Henry before her marriage, just like in the case of Bessie Blount.

[@nancyheidkamp8629]

Really enjoy On This Day In Tudor History. You really make these tidbits interesting. King Henry 8th had several illegitimate children. Could one of these be a relative of Prince Harry. He looks a lot like. Henry 8th?

[@pbohearn]

Nancy Heidkamp I am told he looks even more like princess Diana’s horseman 😉

[@sandilou2U]

Useful Charts has a few excellent videos showing all the royal connections including Queen Elizabeth II's bloodline.

[@anneboleynfiles]

Princes William and Harry descend from Margaret Tudor, sister of Henry VIII, and they descend from Mary Boleyn via the Spencer line and via the Queen.

[@anneboleynfiles]

I think he looks very like Charles Spencer, 9th Earl Spencer, Diana's brother.

[@Glorindellen]

@@anneboleynfiles the Queen also descends from Catherine Carey.

[@janyceimoto8750]

Very interesting lady! Duty or not it’s amazing her marriage brought 16 children!!

[@amberlikescats7192]

That's my grandmother!!! Well...x 12

[@samuelbarringer715]

What is the best book to get on Catherine Carey?

[@maddiesander4786]

So lucky 🍀 to have that many children but sad she wasn’t aloud to see him when she was I’ll 😢

[@annjohnson6193]

16 children!!!

[@TheAuntieBa]

Does anyone know what she died of? Beautiful inscription indeed. Guilt. I doubt all the expense was much comfort to her bereaved husband. Lovely story of true love among all the political matches.

[@anneboleynfiles]

We just know that she had a fever and had been ill for a few weeks.

[@TheAuntieBa]

The Anne Boleyn Files and Tudor Society Thanks! I’m always interested - and often horrified - by the illnesses and the treatments of the time.

[@susannebemis3311]

I'd say exhaustion

[@livesouthernable]

Such a sad ending to a full life. At least she was well loved and had a real marriage based on love and mutual appreciation. Not always the case in dynastic marriages of old.

[@DakotaFord592]

❤❤

[@pheart2381]

Was she related to Lettice Knollys?

[@sandilou2U]

Yes, Catherine was Lettice's mother.

[@anneboleynfiles]

Yes, Lettice was her daughter.

[@pheart2381]

Thanks!

[@TheLadylyn5150]

I think that Elizabeth1 was absolutely cruel for keeping her husband from being with her when Catherine passed away. In that respect she was very much like her father. Just like Henry refused Mary's visit to her mother for years after he divorced her. So selfish and cruel.

[@anneboleynfiles]

I think she regretted it.

[@6falconsue]

I don't believe Elizabeth was being intentionally cruel. She was very close to Catherine. She may have misjudged the seriousness of Catherine's illness.

[@montrelouisebohon-harris7023]

It's amazing that during that time she had that many children and didn't die. Not knowing how many kids that she had survived childbirth or youth, I'm certain by being a mother that by the time she delivered her fifth or sixth child the baby just fell right out. 😂😂😂 I was only in labor with my son for an hour!! He was my second child and it wouldn't have taken that long had I not had a cesarean prior to giving birth to him. I remember being in no pain and talking to my mom on the phone dilating and then all of a sudden I had to get off & push. An hour later my son was born. Goodness there was two for me but I couldn't imagine having 8- 15 kids

[@melvawages7143]

Have you ever wondered why Mary Boleyn and William Carey were married 4 years before Catherine's birth in a time when most couples had their first child within 10 months of their wedding? Also it seems they were married 7 years before he died but only had 2 children? But when Mary remarried she became pregnant very quickly?

[@ileanaacacostaacosta1813]

Because William probably had fertility problems men have too

[@bellarose8511]

But what did she die of?

[@sandilou2U]

Is this the Catherine that Elizabeth had nicknamed Cat?

[@sbalman]

No.

[@AndriaBieberDesigns]

Sandi Hurd You’re thinking of cat Ashley

[@sandilou2U]

@@AndriaBieberDesigns Yes, thank you.

[@pbohearn]

andria Biebs And who the heck was she again?

[@anneboleynfiles]

Katherine Ashley (Champernowne) was Elizabeth's governess.

[@Glorindellen]

my ancestress! but with 16 children, that's probably not that rare a claim.

[@annjohnson6193]

I’d be proud if she was my ancestor. You’re lucky

[@Glorindellen]

@@annjohnson6193 I was rather surprised and delighted to make the discovery last summer. As it happens, my sister happened to be in England and was visiting Arundel Castle, ancestral home of the Howard family the next day, so i briefed her on how were are connected and she had a more interesting time visiting the place.

[@Glorindellen]

@@annjohnson6193 after some checking, she's my 15th g grandmother.

[@annjohnson6193]

Glorindellen, what a wonderful 15th great granny you have. I read her brother had lots of children too, so Mary Boleyn has left her lineage on this earth,

[@Glorindellen]

@@annjohnson6193 including the royal family.

[@tallypaige5275]

16 children!God amazing for the times.I couldn't produce 1 healthy baby,but 16 times that lady was pregnant.Amazing.Very sad at the end though.Elizabeth had a vindictive streak in her.I used to live in Hatfield where she was proclaimed Queen.Quite viscious!!

[@sandrablanchette2239]

I was hoping that, on my birthday, something didn't happen.

[@sandrablanchette2239]

Something Bad . Don't know why it deleted the word bad.

[@anneboleynfiles]

Well, at least it was a natural death and she had a loving husband. Happy birthday!

[@sharoncole8249]

💖👑👑💖xx

[@hoolydooly5799]

Jealousy

[@pbohearn]

That is so sweet they were so much in love after so many years and so many children! Given all the political marriages this one seem to be truly a marriage of love. And did I hear something about the Spencer family? Would this be possibly related to princess Diana of Spencer clan? I understand that she is more royal blooded than her ex-husband. Then again, there are people who say the tudors should never have risen to the throne; in any case they had a tenuous claim really through the wife of Henry the seventh who now is thought to be really the progeny of a bastard! Maybe that’s why the tudors were so obsessed about legitimacy! some say that is proof that the king/queen is not anointed by God it is just politics, accidents and the right place at the right time, if you know what I mean. And I am going to give a like right about there!

[@anneboleynfiles]

Henry VII's claim was by right of conquest though, so nothing else mattered.

[@daniellemusella1594]

I've heard a few people say that, if EITHER of Mary Boleyn's children were fathered by Henry VIII, it was more than likely Catherine. Their reasoning is that he would've acknowledged a son and thrown a lavish christening and other celebrations for the birth, like he'd done for Henry Fitzroy, and this is why she's not recorded publicly as being the king's.

[@levi4life-6578]

There is a chance that King Henry VIII was her father as he did have an affair with Mary,and could have definitely had Catherine Carey. The affair lasted around a decade or so,so I do think theres a good chance that Catherine is his daughter. Plus,Elizabeth and Catherine were close and she even said Catherine was like an older sister to her.

[@jesmei6920]

The swallowing is distracting.

[@anneboleynfiles]

Sorry, I'm struggling with a cold at the moment.