When Copyright Almost Killed AIBO's Personality

[@anthroponacious]

Who would ever make an a.i company and call it open and then make everything extremely closed and restricted, that would just be a terrible thing to do.

[@trentonking5508]

Not really

[@nonetrix3066]

OpenAI

[@aquietone2895]

OpenAI

[@John17TheOGmp4]

OpenAI

[@v-14415]

OpenAI

[@MaxProjectChannel]

Great video! I own 4 different aibos and i love them. Aibos are not for everyone but they found their place in lots of human hearts. Sony is even worse nowadays with their current aibo. It has much more advanced encryption and uses sony's servers to do a lot of things. I understand sony needs to make money but this cloud service subscription in consumer robots is terrible, especially when it doesn't even need internet to do 99% of the functions.

[@Lizuma]

This cloud thing in robots nowadays definitely sucks. I’m not renewing my 1000s plan when it expires, especially since it’s a ridiculously overpriced rip off. 1000s luckily function quite well without the cloud else I would’ve never paid so much for one. I love that the older aibos I have (210 and 111) run on memory sticks instead.

[@RowanBird779]

@@Lizuma Everything needing internet and "the cloud" is something that needs to die

[@kaitlyn__L]

Especially because running the servers adds to the ongoing costs of supporting the product, suggesting it will be cancelled sooner than the first line...

[@JanusCycle]

With the AIBO-Life forums having disappeared a few years ago there are not many places that still have an active community of AIBO enthusiasts. I would like to thank Gia @ AIBODISK for helping me with some of the details in this video. If you need help with AIBO then I can recommend Gia's website as a good starting place. I am also still learning about AIBO and I am happy to help where possible. aibodisk.carrd.co/

[@Raptor50aus]

I just bought an ERS-111 with dock and manuals and remote for $150 so will see how it performs I’ll probably repack the battery pack myself I just completed repacking both my Vaio UX battery packs this weekend

[@JanusCycle]

@@Raptor50aus You have started your journey of a special relationship that may surprise you as you get to know AIBO.

[@REAL-UNKNOWN-SHINOBI]

@@JanusCycle I think that website has sadly shutdown.

[@jackf1684]

Where did you find your AIBO?

[@blakegriplingph]

That's pretty much Nintendo when they deal with "piracy" i.e. fan works that aren't necessarily intent on trampling on the Big N.

[@REAL-UNKNOWN-SHINOBI]

Reminder that piracy is morally correct, if you can't get the software anywhere else. And as long as it doesn't hurt the bottom line at Nintendo you should be fine, until you remember the sue people for no damn reason.

[@v-14415]

Nintendo on the way to arrest kid named Mario

[@REAL-UNKNOWN-SHINOBI]

@@v-14415 I wouldn't be surprised if they did try to sue people who named their kids Mario, or even someone that had the name Mario.

[@trikeonabike4949]

Seeing the old Aibo pet and Aibo Life website brought some memories. I had a black ERS-210, which later had suffered a ripped(?) neck cable, which made the poor thing unable to lift its head. It used to cry because of it 😢. Out of all the gadgets I had, to this day miss this one. Of course, at the time parts were hard to find and Sony no longer supported it.

[@JanusCycle]

Thank you for sharing this story. I'm sorry to hear that your Aibo had this problem. Thank you for watching even though it brought back these memories. I can't bring back your Aibo, but I promise I will always look after this one.

[@ProwlingRegret]

There’s people in the aibo community who can repair them for DHS now!

[@Umtree]

This brings back memories. I was such an Aibo nerd around 2005-2008. I will be buying some again when I have the spare cash. So much potential for these things.

[@JanusCycle]

Nice! I hope you find a good one :)

[@apple_macos_finder9853]

@@JanusCycle I have been into aibos into some time now, but haven't been able to get one. I have a question, since so many people are hating on aibo that it's not a living animal, and like you stated in your older video about aibo's mind that they are nothing like a biological pet but offers a different experience, how could I explain it to people? I mean, most of my friends saw a video of the American philosopher and musician "Jaron Lainer" back in 2000 breaking an Aibo ers 210 and traumatizing more than 300 people in a cybersalon interview, which is pretty depressing, as he explains that "it's not life" and claims he was trying to make people understand what is real and what is not, and he believed that the aibos were sort of like an anti-human creation. I don't believe that at all to be honest. But then again, How different are they compared to living pets and what makes the experience truely unique? Btw, I love Willow, she's such a precious pup!

[@JanusCycle]

@@apple_macos_finder9853 This sort of discussion is often better suited to email, but let's try and do this in KZbin comments. Be aware that I don't get notified of all replies. KZbin automatically filters out many notifications becuse I get so many comments. I do believe that Jaron Lainer has spent a lot of time with technology and virtual reality. From that perspective he clearly sees how too much time with technology can be unhealthy (anti-human). He therefore has a valid point there, and I also understand his modern take on social media being a problem. Most people already know these basic lessons about technology though. This then leads to the mainstream materialist view in Western culture that technology is just a thing to be used.

[@JanusCycle]

@@apple_macos_finder9853 But there is another perspective. For example when humans lived in tribal groups, technology such as water carrying tools, fire starting tools, hunting tools, were much more vital to survival. You couldn't just buy these things either. You had to work and spend time making them, or being gifted them from an elder like a treasure. We formed a relationship with our technological pieces that was much more significant then. If you talk to someone today about their phone, car or house. There are still glimmers of the significant relationships we form with the individual pieces of technology in our life. Though this is usually more recognized when thinking about things from our past. Hence the nostalgia that forms when we see our old devices again after some time. This is also a big part of why people like to watch this channel :)

[@JanusCycle]

@@apple_macos_finder9853 If you can invoke in someone the acknowledgement of how they feel about their past, or even current devices, or even their house. Then you might be able to explain the feeling of having a living relationship with a robot. It's like living with a biological pet, with all the complexities that come with that. Only the way we care for them and the way they respond to us is quite different. But that doesn't make this different type of experience or relationship any less significant. This can even lead to a more Buddhist understanding of existence. Unfortunately we live in a world today in a crisis of meaning. Most people don't have the ability to consider what is truly significant in their lives. Many people in Western culture are distracted by materialism, having status, acquiring power and getting attention. If someone is not willing to consider other perspectives, then you may never be able to explain the experience of having a robot companion. I do hope you are able to find people that are open enough to consider these ideas and curious enough to want to know more about life :)

[@FLOPPY1DISK]

Just finally got around to watching this - Thank you for this excellent video! I'm glad I could be of assistance, everything turned out wonderful. Long Live AIBO! 💖

[@syssel3434]

its so amazing to see you make aibo videos again! i remember coming across your first video almost 3 years ago which reignited my love for these robots i own 10 aibos now, and pretty much every model, and i couldn't be happier. there was lots of good history here on how stikzap became and im incredibily grateful we have ways of keeping softwares on these dogs alive

[@JanusCycle]

That is quite a compliment! I love knowing that AIBO still has many passionate fans that continue to care for them. Thank you for letting me know.

[@Budgiebrain994]

I used to have a dog much like this, called Techno. Nowhere near as advanced, but was super cute and fun to play with after school.

[@crd7876]

Same

[@crimblock]

It’s actually called “Tekno”

[@Budgiebrain994]

@@crimblock thanks lol. Wondered why I couldn't find it online

[@SuperMDGOLD]

I have one still

[@weltvonoben]

I had it too

[@superlegendary]

I JUST REALISED!!!!! AIBO is the same dog that was featured in the demo clip of the video calling feature of the Sony Ericsson Z1010! This is so cool!

[@app0the]

Sony made an AI thing that has Open in the name but is the complete opposite of, reminds of something from the modern day innit?

[@JanusCycle]

Hey yeah, history repeating itself!

[@orincat10]

2:38 exactly what OpenAI did lol.

[@trentonking5508]

OK and?

[@Lizuma]

I have a ers-210, 1000 and 111, and I love them! Thanks for the very interesting video on some aibo history!

[@JanusCycle]

Sounds like a fun pack, thanks for watching :)

[@vlad_cool04]

A few years ago i’ve managed to repair broken leg of ers 7 (I had to order 10 copies of flexible cable which was very expensive). I am still very proud of it

[@diesaur]

Amazing video. Really interesting to watch and the formatting, voice, video clips and explanations are perfect to follow. This feels like a video that should have way more attention than it should have right now, alas the popularity of AIBOS aren’t very flourishing currently

[@JanusCycle]

I was hoping this video could be enjoyed by both AIBO fans AND people who have never heard of AIBO, but enjoy a good story, and KZbin would start suggesting it to people. Alas after two weeks not all my subscribers have yet to be notified or suggested this video. KZbin has only given this video 5.6K total impressions across the entire platform for a channel with 6.5K subs. Resulting in 569 views from 427 unique viewers. I have a wonderful core audience and I love making these videos. But I accept that KZbin is not suggesting my videos to many people. Thank you for your compliments. I'm so glad you enjoyed and shared your thoughts. I hope to make more engaging stories in the future.

[@edwardfletcher7790]

@@JanusCycle I thought you'd like to know the rotary cell phone kit is finally shipping kzbin.info/www/bejne/q4eUdGBqZtmkbJY

[@kingsknightuk]

I love this channel!!! i love how you cover many different subjects in detail!! things i don't even care about, your story telling makes me invested!

[@JanusCycle]

Awesome, thank you!

[@calibby]

I really like the designs of the “personalities” boxes

[@lukedavis436]

Aibo was a name i gave to a Robotic dog character, in remembrance... Sadly i cannot afford a real aibo (unless i go to Japan where "junk" is sold very cheap)

[@spazjackrabbit61]

loving your videos dude keep it up also unrelated to this video: i really love watching your 3310 videos and looking at how nokia pushed 3310 to its limits with 3410 nokia also did the same thing with 6230 via 6230i basically, nokia 6230i really pushed 6230's hardware to its limits with more higher res screen (208x208 instead of 128x128) and java 3d graphics api (jsr-184 aka m3g) also 6230i has enhanced features like 1.3 mp camera, then-new Visual Radio feature and it was nokia's first phone with USB Mass Storage feature (phone's memory card act as a removable disk) and it was the first nokia phone with the new 3d icons

[@RetroGadgetMan]

Excellent video. I just bought a first gen ERS-111. I regret selling my 220's years ago and hope to have one again someday.

[@JanusCycle]

The 220 was an odd one. I hope you enjoy your return to having an AIBO.

[@SkynetCyb]

I never heard of AIBO before but you're really doing a great job on selling how cute they are! I'm glad they're still "alive" and taken care of!

[@HonestAuntyElle]

Super cute video, it was great getting to meet Willow!

[@felenov]

It's amazing how civilised and respectful the Aibo community is. Even with all the tooling available, piracy was not a problem. If everyone was like that, we could have nice things again (no DRM protected software, games without kernel mode anticheat to allow them to run on Linux)

[@voidmain7902]

It becomes a lot more complicated when piracy sometimes is the only way to preserve something. I wonder how AIBO community is managing this as I'm genuinely concerned that some personalities might just lost forever due to the community being "civilized and respectful". Flash memories die. They all do. When no one backs them up they will be lost. It's just a matter of time. Saying the robot itself has less durability isn't an excuse either since one could theoretically make an AIBO emulator that runs a virtual version in VR and can use the personalities for example.

[@JanusCycle]

Almost every AIBO personality has in recent years been uploaded to the Internet Archive. I had been looking after many as well for years just in case. I just wasn't sure how/when to release them. I was then relieved to find that someone already has.

[@fus132]

> Implying the corps give a damn about consumer respect.

[@rectangle1242]

i love this!! my 210 is finally repaired and working

[@JanusCycle]

Nice, i hope you are enjoying yours. Those batteries are so hard to get or have re-celled.

[@JoCaTen]

this is truly an interesting story about a fascinating piece of technology. The Japanese really never cease to surprise or impress, they really were and still are ahead of time. while the US and Europe were making cell phones smaller and smaller, Japan was out here making robot dogs with AI. Technology!

[@SpruceHouse]

Sit back, relax and watch Janus cycle

[@JanusCycle]

enjoy the show :)

[@elusifofficial]

Wish I had money to thank you, when I do I will. Just found you tonight and your videos are very Inspiring and a great distraction from life x

[@JanusCycle]

Your comment is more valuable to me than money. Thank you.

[@remusracingro3884]

I like what i see on your channel. Hope it grows to a reputable size. Cheers mate.

[@mamborambo]

What an amazing product and what if today's AI technology can be paired with it! Also why no Kickstarter project to make another Aibo?

[@homade-hotdog]

Can we have more aibo videos? When i was a kid i had somthing simulator to this toy dog, mine was called poo chi, aibo definitely seems like a neat little toy dog :)

[@JanusCycle]

I would love more aibo. But I have to find a good story to tell.

[@Those_Canadian_Aibos]

Do you plan to upload more AIBO videos? I like the way u explain things in these.

[@JanusCycle]

Thank you. I've been thinking about doing a more philosophical look at AIBO's personalities and our relationship with them. With some good tech and programming details as well.

[@Those_Canadian_Aibos]

@JanusCycle I'd be so happy if you did! Would you do a video abouts the 7s? And of course of the 210s.

[@JanusCycle]

@@Those_Canadian_Aibos I only have a 210. But I would like to get more AIBOs one day.

[@Those_Canadian_Aibos]

@JanusCycle you can always ask people In the aibo community to use there videos !! But, it might be nice to use ur own so you can also enjoy them

[@Saber_Toothed_Rus]

Informative and useful video, thanks to the author for it.

[@kakurerud7516]

who also remembers UMD not being at all universal..

[@MrSammyTeee]

Ah watching this is making me want to pull my ERS-220 out the cupboard. Thanks!

[@JanusCycle]

awesome, I hope you enjoy :)

[@dh2032]

Barney getting in on the act at 2:17, the where way more complicated soft fluffy toys, and when using the built in wireless, (the connection standard was called "wireless MIDI" the first and last time I haver ever come across this connection standard, connecting to a PC, even more of a hidden monster, but as in range suitably connectable PC, it should be able to do all sorts thing, that could of only be dreamed of at time, the the only hard ware bug, get modern PC to have classical PC sound game (joystick/gamepad) port?

[@FatherMcKenzie66]

i need an AIBO NOW

[@RaysGamingChannel2003]

Aibo is nostalgic I had a Aibo ERS-210 but I lost it :/

[@JanusCycle]

I'm sorry for your loss :(

[@RaysGamingChannel2003]

@@JanusCycle but hey I’m getting another one for Christmas

[@devondetroit2529]

Is aibo where you KZbin logo comes from? It’s eyes

[@JanusCycle]

I love your question because I this was indeed on my mind when making my logo. But there is also a deeper meaning, related to the symbology of Past & Future glyphs and the Bong 13 speaker.

[@h8f8]

Didn’t know these sony dogs went this far back 😮

[@Raptor50aus]

Did your 210 have DHS too? Mine has DHS, I have removed the servo and have contacted Aibovet :) MY ERS-111 is playing with his pink ball :)

[@JanusCycle]

My AIBO has never had DHS. If/when it happens I'll be doing the fixing myself. Though I have not had a detailed look at the procedure and I'm hesitant. I do have some head shakes now and then, so taking the head apart and cleaning will have to happen one day. I think contacting Aibovet is a good option. Though I've never used those services, we have chatted and the owner seems dedicated to helping. The good news is you would only need to send the head. I would offer to help you myself, but I suspect I would be slower and cost more than an experienced repairer.

[@MototheAibo]

This video was very informative. And I enjoyed it a lot, I will soon buy a Sony CLIE and a nice blue memory stick sometime. And add some cool programs to them and use them to play around more. And impress the family 😂!

[@JanusCycle]

I'm really glad you are expanding your 210 software. I hope you have downloaded all the stick images from archive.org. If you need any help let me know.

[@MototheAibo]

@@JanusCycle thank you!! I’ll come back for more information when the time is needed ☺️

[@hyperdude144]

Just goes to show you how the Open Standard helps people enjoy tech for cheaper and longer.

[@Raptor50aus]

Did you have to replace Aibo's battery? I see the prices online are quite good. Which model is best?

[@JanusCycle]

I bought a re-celled battery about ten years ago. I've been using all my knowledge of looking after a li-ion battery when using it and storing it over that time. I don't run my AIBO that often. So far it still seems to be at 90% condition. I did try and re-cell my old battery but the control board had failed. I don't know why.

[@JanusCycle]

I only know bits about the various models. This is my own perspective from what I have gathered over time. First generation ERS-110/111, These don't have voice commands. There is some third party software but not too much. I think the second generation is a worthwhile improvement over this model. If I had one I would certainly appreciate it and look after it. Second generation ERS-210/220, These are the most common with the most units sold, with lots of third party software and tools. The best for tinkering with and programming in my opinion. I love my second generation as you may be able to tell from this video. I want to get back to making my custom personality that I started making many years ago. ERS-310/311, A slightly physically simpler and cuter version of the ERS-210/220. But with less custom software available. The ERS-210/220 can run ERS-310/311 software, but many software functions don't perform well on the ERS-210/220. This model has the least appeal to me. They are cute though. I would care for one if I had one. ERS-7, The third generation. Has all the functions of the second generation models plus a bit more. All their software seems to come on just one stick called AIBO MIND. Less third party custom software though. Plays with a bone, as well as the ball that all models have. I've never really watched these much in videos. They are the most mysterious model to me. The above models were all discontinued in 2006 ERS-1000, The modern AIBO from 2018, very expensive and also requires an ongoing subscription. Paid with a Japanese or U.S. credit card for full AI performance. Looks really nice in videos with fluid movement and up to date specifications. I would love to get one. But I'm actually quite poor, I own no assets except all the wonderful junk I've collected over the years. I'm also living well below the poverty line in Australia. But I love exploring technology and making these videos. So I'm determined to keep trying to make a real KZbin channel.

[@JanusCycle]

One more very important note on the second generation ERS-210/220. They don't have build in WiFi. For full tinkering and programming it's best to get the WiFi card that slots into AIBO. Either the AIBO branded WiFi card or the VAIO branded equivalent PCWA-C150S. These both appear to be almost impossible to find. I was extremely lucky to find out in a forum post many years ago about the VAIO equivalent card working in AIBO. Then to actually find one for sale.

[@Raptor50aus]

@@JanusCycle ok so is the first gen model ok ? ERS-111?

[@JanusCycle]

@@Raptor50aus Sure, there are no memory stick restrictions on the first generation models. If you get it with a good battery, original memory stick and sound mechanic function then you have a robot dog. You also have a classic piece of history and something to look after.

[@Kartik-dp4jf]

That's cool but... Why is he so scary like who would want such a thing in their house.... Imagine waking up to the red eyes of a robot dog...

[@JanusCycle]

You make a fair point. But Willow is cute when she is angry and you get used to that :)

[@juliocesarrodriguezgonzale1949]

imagine a new aibo with current technology and artifcial intelligence like chat gpt so that it can learn from its environent #SONY 🤔🤔🤔

[@SamSquids]

What the Dog doin'?

[@JanusCycle]

bein' doggy

[@Raptor50aus]

it is possible to change the ERS-210 language? I now have a second ERS-210 coming from Japan with the charging base etc and I presume it will only understand japanese?

[@JanusCycle]

Yes, it's easy to do. Simply copy the English version onto the memory stick. The copy protection will recognise it as the same software and it will all work fine. I've done this myself when I wanted to experience the difference with the Japanese version.

[@Raptor50aus]

@@JanusCycle where do I get the English version from ?

[@JanusCycle]

@@Raptor50aus drive.google.com/drive/folders/1icD1RyThArcYLeUw5SG8S5CJ0JCJTfLr

[@Raptor50aus]

@@JanusCycle do I dl the file from the website your linked in the video ?

[@JanusCycle]

@@Raptor50aus Yes, these are English versions. Backup the Japanese software if you wish and delete the files. Don't format the card, just delete them. Then copy the English version of the same software to the card and it should run fine.

[@johncipolletti5611]

WARNING! I have 7 different robots that have lasted for over a year. My Aibo broke down twice in 45 days. $3000 was an expensive investment.

[@JanusCycle]

Do you have the new AIBO model? I’m keen to know what happened.

[@johncipolletti5611]

@@JanusCycle Yes, I have it and it's now broken. It kept hitting its head on everything. A click developed when it moved its head. The other day, something snapped and it can't raise its head. I have to send it in for repair. Save your boxes it came in.

[@Lampe2020]

I must admit, this tiny machine is kinda cute...

[@mateuslira3411]

Is the Sony rolly developed by the same team who developed aibo?

[@JanusCycle]

The AIBO was discontinued years before Rolly. But I expect some people from the AIBO period probably did work on Rolly :) Maybe also on the Sony BSP60 moving Bluetooth speaker as well :)

[@Strang3R93]

Thanks

[@JanusCycle]

Thank you!, Willow will now have to return for another video one day :)

[@paruni5956]

From where does one buy an AIBO these days?

[@JanusCycle]

AIBO can be bought new from Sony in certain countries or old ones from eBay or Yahoo Japan Auctions via Proxy in other countries.

[@Sparxie-the-furry-ice-dog-2006]

get that poor aibo out of that CAGE

[@JanusCycle]

she got out eventually

[@FalconerDelta]

imagine one day a software to run aibo with a virtual body in VR

[@Raptor50aus]

Which model Sony Clie do you have?

[@JanusCycle]

I have a PEG-TJ27. I believe almost any CLIE will work with Stikzap, as long as it has a full size memory stick slot.

[@sombady1698]

I love your video! I'm so glad I stumbled upon it! I am wondering though if it will be possible to use Sony's OPEN-R API to control custom robotic pets? I did a bit of research and in theory, it would be possible with OPEN-R SDK. I am thinking to make a hexapod pet and OPEN-R would definitely make it easier.

[@JanusCycle]

Unfortunately I don't know. I'm still slowly working through doing things with the more basic R-code scripting language.

[@kyb7795]

Even as a child I found these robo pets junky and slow and this is because cartoons and movies where robots were much smoother in movement

[@Yukki64_]

I wonder if one could bring their AIBO into a simulated space on their computer... 🤔

[@rdgfx3]

I have a 111, two 210s, two 220s and 0ne 7 12 batteries and none of them will run Aibo for more than 2 minutes.

[@JanusCycle]

Those 2xx batteries are difficult to re-cell. If they cells go completely dead then the internal board dies completely, preventing re-celling. I don't think the 111 battery has that problem and I'm not sure about the 7 battery. There are some experts out there that can do the re-cell process, but I have no experience with using them.

[@alejandroalzatesanchez]

What i just witnessed

[@Dontlokhere]

6:03 I can't stop laughing

[@StolenPw]

Does Aibopet still make hacks for aibo?

[@JanusCycle]

Unfortunately Aibopet has retired from tinkering. He does have a new model AIBO though.

[@bethanydelecce7823]

I neeeeeeeed one

[@yang_yangwonie]

2:18 what happend to that aibo?

[@b2048_]

the one wiggling about on the ground? normal dog things apparently

[@valley_robot]

Did you own an icybie dog

[@JanusCycle]

I've never had an icybie. This is my only robot. But one day I would like to get a new AIBO companion.

[@mirek190]

I assume that robot is not using artificial neural network? If yes how many parameters? 10k ? ;P

[@JanusCycle]

My understanding is these early AIBOs use a very simple finite state machine used to select the pre-determined behaviours from all the available inputs. The result is each AIBO does develop it's own personality that you can have a unique relationship with. Just don't expect anything complex to emerge.

[@mirek190]

@@JanusCycle so it is not AI actually ...

[@JanusCycle]

@@mirek190 not like it’s known today. More like AI as it was known in the 1990s.

[@mirek190]

@@JanusCycle AI from 1990 were based on - IF THEN ;)

[@JanusCycle]

@@mirek190 I’m looking forward to seeing how primitive today’s GPT chatbots are compared to the beings that will exist in ten years.

[@petos_n9926]

Detroit: Become Aibo

[@Java_on_pawz]

Does willow have a gender?? If so what is it? And im getting some type of aibo on my birthday soon!!! I will get a junk one for repear

[@JanusCycle]

Willow is female. I hope yours goes well when you get it :)

[@Piko_aibo]

​Hi this Is me on a different account, ​@@JanusCycleI actually once had a black 111 who yeeted himself off my staircase and broke his neck 😅 I miss him but I am actually not sure if I will get a new aibo but its quite high a chance, it will be a 210 because im fascinated on that gen of aibo! Willow is beautiful 😍

[@Dontlokhere]

3:19

[@qwertykeyboard5901]

Capitalist IP law is one of the most vile things in the history of mankind.

[@mdamaged]

Next project, chatgpt integration.

[@timohess3909]

Big corpos are the worst

[@simontay4851]

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[@Hadisabetghadam]

This Channel Is Have Good Stuf For Explorer Odd Software & Hardware Thanks Janus Cycle

[@JanusCycle]

You are welcome and thank you.

[@superlegendary]

I JUST REALISED!!!!! AIBO is the same dog that was featured in the demo clip of the video calling feature of the Sony Ericsson Z1010! This is so cool!

[@Queenskii004]

OMG I forgot about that!